The Daleks that never were 

Or perhaps a servant class? Like they are humans that are given a Dalek version of a Cyber-conversion to maintain all the Dalek machines. After all they have many more arm like structures.

@@totalnerd5674 I think it would make sense for something like that to work in Dalek construction or other parts of dalek society that aren't really seen, but also require delicate handling and limited space. I can't see it being easy for a Dalek to wire their various machines and ship systems.

I like the idea of it as a Degradation tbh, with the Daleks calling it from across the Multiverse for war

@@totalnerd5674 The Daleks would've never allowed a Dalek/Cyberman Hybrid, because they would think of it as an impurity.

@@Dalek-Galvo Oh no, what I meant was a Human lobotomized and augmented with Dalek technology, like Servitors from Warhammer 40k.

The big finish audiobooks did him justice

As bad as the their Dalek ideas were, that imho wasn't the worst idea for the reboot, that would go to... The Dr and the Master being revealed to be brothers, who would spend the 1st season looking for their father, named "Ulysses"

@@felinusfeline5559 Actually, that idea dates back to the Pertwee era. That reveal would have been part of "The Final Game," the last Doctor vs. Master story that got canceled due to Roger Delgado's tragic death. Then in Planet of Fire, the Master was supposed to say, "Would you really kill your own brother?" But they changed it to make it more ambiguous. It's far from the worst idea. Holmes and Moriarty are brothers in some adaptations.

​@@crimsong8068You know, as someone with a brother.I find that fucking weird through the hell calls their sibling my dear

@@plantainsame2049 Well, I have a brother too, and it can be said in a joking context. But remember that this never became canon. Fun Fact: in "The Sound of Drums." Martha says, "I thought he was your secret brother" in reference to this scrapped idea.

Honestly yeah, now you mention it I can see the Davros thing

I was thinking that - Iron Davros

davros shaped creature

Their Davros redesign was uuuuglyyyy! A fat, squat, sunken man looking like he'd had a wrestling match with gravity and lost, still in a life support chair, but nowhere near as iconic a design as the proper version.

Well the cybs did technically appear. They sounds very similar to the clockwork droids

​@@theylivewesleep.5139plus the Master addressed the Cybermen as Cybs in The Timeless Children.

I think a book confirms this, with the Daleks from the 60’s being Davros’ earlier models and refined in the Mark III (used by Daleks throughout the 70’s) before giving way to the Mark IV (the 80’s ones)

So does that mean the 2000s Daleks are mark 5 and the the 2020s Daleks are mark 6?​@@ItsButterBean1020

You never know, now that RTD has Disney money and equipment at his disposal...

I've wanted to see multiple Dalek factions (New Paradigm, Dalek Empire, Imperials, the resurgence of the Humanised Daleks etc.) appearing again for a long time, so a rather eclectic bunch of Dalek scavengers, who employ leftover Skaro Degradations as mercenaries, would be a nice way to make these fit.

Amazing when first seen. But so parodied and over-used since. The Dalek in "Dalek" was a great update, IMO. But since then...

Even better when you realize that Mike Tucker is voiced by Terry Molloy.

They could be part converted Cybermen who escaped captivity and live of raiding ships for mechanical and organic components.

Ikr

The TV Movie was a hodgepodge of ideas that went through various stages of production over the years, with multiple different writers and producers working on the project over time. One of the original ideas from back when John Leekley was working on the project was that it would essentially reboot Doctor Who's lore from the ground up, and the series would consist of remakes of various classic Doctor Who stories. The Ark in Space was one, as was Talons of Weng-Chiang and Tomb of the Cybermen (though in this case it would have been 'Tomb of the Cybs', as the Cybs were planned to be the replacement for Cybermen and looked more like Borg crossed with pirates) Presumably, these Dalek concepts are from one of these early ideas, and at one point I think Steven Speilberg was involved in some capacity. Over time though, Leekley left the project and some other writers came in, it went through various rewrites, lots of different people had different ideas of where to take it and the TV Movie is basically what we ended up with as a result of that. Though there are still some tiny remnants of the older ideas lingering in the TV Movie, such as the idea of the Doctor being half-human which relates to the fact that in the original idea for the rebooted canon, the Doctor was the Master's half-brother. It's mad to think that had the original concept of the rebooted TV show gone ahead, it would have changed Doctor Who as we know it forever and New Who would probably never have happened as a result

And this design was homaged in fire and brimstone as a dalek from barusa's universe.

They think newer is better, which is pretty dumb cus literally every peice of media was new at some point. What separates the good from the crap is that they were well made, not new. WELL MADE!

When were daleks mentioned in the bible?

@@landonwyndham979 I was referring to the John Leekley tv series bible for the proposed American reboot of Doctor Who. The proposed series pilot would have been a remake of GENESIS OF THE DALEKS - with the Doctor more deeply implicated in their creation. The daleks are integral to the story. The series never happened, and the Leekley bible is now nothing but a curiosity.

@@rondemkiw4492 ah I will have to look into that thank you.

They do have this insane utter dedication to "racial purity". I guess the Davros-created casings may fall under that...

Trouble is, RTD already bin/dun that with the Cybermen. And what we saw there was a largely parallel evolution. As Moffat's Mondas story also indicated. To get these Daleks, drastic differences would be implied. And require explanation. The Time War is probably your best bet now, as others have already commented.

Another option is to use the design for a different creature.