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The Dark Knight v The Batman 

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Join me as I take a look at the media that inspired The Dark Knight and The Batman. From the films Heat, Seven, and the graphic novel The Long Halloween.
#batman #thedarkknight #thebatman #dc #dcu #dccomics

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@Garrettsamuel98
@Garrettsamuel98 Год назад
Bale made the weirdest looking faces when he was in the Batman costume. AND his Batman voice hurts the inside of my brain
@wwpjd28
@wwpjd28 11 месяцев назад
The bullet reconstruction has some basis in the source material. Batman the Animated Series is the definitive portrayal to me (even beyond the comics which are far too numerous and of varying quality for me to be as invested in). And "Computer" is damn near magical in that. Definitely has a lot of great detective work in that show, but Computer helps him take some pretty big leaps with its incredible powers.
@MisterTee
@MisterTee Год назад
Seven is supposed to take place in Seattle
@jaketaz2848
@jaketaz2848 11 месяцев назад
I get what they were trying to do with Pattinson's Batman and visually it had some amazing parts, but overall I just couldn't get on board. Pattinson is the least physically intimidating Batman ever, including George clooney. The Riddler seemed more intellectually challenged than intellectually twisted. Many of the detective sequences wound up with Batman stumbling on the answer or another cast member just straight-up stating it. Several scenes, most notably The Riddler interrogation scene, were lifted from Se7en almost word-for-word, beat for beat. It was at least 45 minutes too long.
@blackdonkykong1989
@blackdonkykong1989 Год назад
Both films were amazing indeed, but the last act of the Batman felt unnecessary. ***Spoiler ahead!!!***It seemed like the resolution was close when Falcone was murdered, after that it felt like dragged on a bit. I seen your original video on your main account lol I watch everything you make 🙌 Keep up the great fucking work Cynic.
@TheHumbleLionMotivates
@TheHumbleLionMotivates Год назад
More 🔥
@johndodo2062
@johndodo2062 8 месяцев назад
Knight was superior
@RRTNZ
@RRTNZ Год назад
Both films are excellent, but also have their flaws. Personally, I believe the Dark Knight is the better film, on balance. The Batman needed to cut about 30 minutes off its runtime, and easily could have without impacting the story. Nothing tops Ledger's performance as the Joker ( not even Joaquin Phoenix in the Joker movie). Ledger's Joker is a better villain, than the Riddler, no question. Nolan was smart to give him comparatively little screentime, so as not to totally upstage Batman. The Joker - Batman interrogation scene holds up as possibly the best 1 on 1 in a superhero film, definitely the best interaction between those characters ( I am dreading Barry Keoghan's Joker, he's really flavour of the month, but I find him about as menacing as a pair of old socks). Bale is a better actor overall than Pattinson, but his Batman is a little too OTT, RPatz plays Batman angry but in control - where Bale really has the edge, is that he's given lots of screentime as Bruce Wayne to work with. That's my biggest issue with the Batman - it almost ignores the essential duality of the character. The Dark Knight also has a significant edge in its supporting cast. I love Andy Serkis ( worked for him when I was an extra on the Hobbit - great guy) but nobody tops Michael Caine. Also, Gary Oldman, nobody can match him - he IS Jim Gordon. On a related note, Batman working with Gordon is one thing - working a crime scene side by side with CSI uniformed cops and detectives just seems wrong. Even Aaron Eckhart gives the performance of his career in TDK. I did like the twist "I am vengeance" with the Riddler's thralls, forcing Batman to reexamine his motivations, that was well done - but did we need the tacked on flood act to get there. I feel like this could have been earlier in the film. I actually prefer Nolan's Gotham, rather than the Gothic horror landscape of The Batman's city. Fight choreography wise the Batman is stronger, although Bale's Batman makes better use of some cool gadgets, especially the cape glider. Zoey K is a surprisingly good Selina Kyle. Colin Farrell was brilliant as Penguin, but terribly underused ! Score wise I found TDK more memorable, with The Batman's main theme being too repetitive and somehow it manages to be more bombastic than Zimmer ( not easy to do and not a good thing ) So, overall, taken all their respective merits I prefer TDK.
@creedecriswell634
@creedecriswell634 Год назад
This entire comment was basically bias.
@RRTNZ
@RRTNZ Год назад
@@creedecriswell634 Yes, because, that's how opinions work 😂😂😂.
@creedecriswell634
@creedecriswell634 Год назад
@@RRTNZ Wait a minute I remember you.
@Melvin-Deeply
@Melvin-Deeply Год назад
How many times will Hostmann Socrates watch this while preparing his counter? 🙃
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 Год назад
I've still not seen either of these films.
@Melvin-Deeply
@Melvin-Deeply Год назад
The Dark Knight is the best Batman movie by quite a way. It's a great movie, worth your time to watch it. It's about half an hour too long though. There's a point where it should have ended, but it kept on going. Instead of leaving me wanting more it felt like I'd had a wee bit too much.
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 Год назад
@@Melvin-Deeply Next time it's on TV I'll check it out. :)
@Melvin-Deeply
@Melvin-Deeply Год назад
@(Hostmann Socrates) HK-47 Bane? You mean Goldmember? Tom Hardy's worst ever acting performance. Hilarious accent though. :)
@anthonydavis5826
@anthonydavis5826 Год назад
The Batman was very heavy-handed in its political commentary about Bruce Wayne’s white privilege and supposed obligation to help Gotham’s underclass out of guilt, a role which Robert Pattinson played hard into while being totally miscast for the role, being whiny and depressed the entire film and reminding me far too much of his _most famous role_ than I would like. And the best action scenes in the movie were all ripped directly from The Dark Knight, most notably the chase scene in the tunnel. People love to heap praise on this movie, but I found it to be mediocre at best. It’s nowhere near the level of a classic that any of Nolan’s trilogy of films are.
@cynicafterdark
@cynicafterdark Год назад
Heavy handed as opposed to how unbelievably on the nose Nolan’s Batman trilogy was, with his utilization of spy tools to find the Joker at the end of Dark Knight and Fox virtue signaling to him about how one man shouldn’t have such power? Or how about the over the top commentary by Bane to incite the citizens of Gotham to string up the rich? Pick your battles. “Heavy handed political commentary” is only a problem if you disagree with it apparently.
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