The dark side of ceramic coatings! What you need to know

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First, let me say this: I’m a believer in the science behind ceramic coatings, and my personal vehicles are coated as well. But-there’s something you NEED to know -- whether you are a consumer, or detailer. Let’s talk!
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@SuzukiKid400 2 года назад

I think after ceramic coating you should be applying a sealant to protect the ceramic. And then you should apply a wax to protect the sealant. Then you should put a cover on the car to protect the wax. Then you should park in a positively pressurized and filtered air bubble with humidity control. Man, taking care of your car is hard work. You’re not even allowed to drive it!

@awaisakram8573 2 года назад

Lmfaoo so true man.

@PlayafromtheHimalayas 2 года назад

Bruh lol

@FinancePro203 Год назад

To your point (which was both funny and brilliant)… something simple like PS21S carnauba on top of the ceramic would be a simple step to take to make this situation more manageable.

@19Tube70 Год назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯

@InnocentlyInsaneCreations Месяц назад

Or you could park it in an expensive high end parking garage, and put a glass case around it, vacuum the air out, and just look at it.

@privatedata665 3 года назад

I don't understand this video but we are having grilled salmon tonight

@mkvB58KING 3 года назад

How was the salmon?

@privatedata665 3 года назад

@@mkvB58KING good with crispy skin

@DallasStorm43 3 года назад

What is there not to understand?

@michaelbravo2401 2 года назад

Lol!😋🤣

@b00dlat2154 2 года назад

yaz to salmon for dinner! lol

@jimboh5131 4 года назад

thanks for pointing out the truth of ceramic coatings; all the " whatever " sayings going on here, the point is MOST people that pay for a ceramic coating think it's impervious to such things like staining and spotting; the truth being it is the sacrificial layer so that the spotting isn't actually in one's paint but in the coating. Cheers!

@Sky1 4 года назад

"Spray with Hose, then Drive Fast" - is what works for me

@Agent77X 4 года назад

Sky1 I always drive over 120mph to get the water drops off on the freeway! Works great!

@dubai_Guy 4 года назад

your are right! i do the same!

@Neamtz2000 3 года назад

@@dubai_Guy i call it bullshit, you are lying 🤥

@Wize817 3 года назад

Duh! or just take a clean dry microfiber to it! PROBLEM SOLVED! 🤓

@DallasStorm43 3 года назад

@@Wize817 You don't use a dry microfiber towel on a wet car. You use a chamois that is wet.

@rufascar9512 4 года назад

Whether you use a sealant, wax or ceramic coating the water will remain beaded when parked like that...and that is what these protectant barriers are for, to protect against the elements...so don’t stress.

@codymilmine45 3 года назад

Ya but when you see that alot of people don't know what it is you think your fucked this just happened to me with turtle wax hybrid solutions I applied Teo weeks ago and washed the car today and the top is full of water spots and I cant dry it off any time it gets wet

@derek723 3 года назад

It's pretty stressful when you've just paid $1000+ for a ceramic coating and not even a month in you've got massive water spot damage

@froyo9674 Месяц назад

@@derek723exactly

@mattjasche 4 года назад

What brand do you use with clients?

@MrDrinknRide 4 года назад

You should definitely do some more coke man

@lastwhtknight3002 3 года назад

Lmao.

@kennethbryan3738 3 года назад

oh shit..OMG..LMAOOOOO

@ludwigrotin5891 3 года назад

Looool

@viceisms16 3 года назад

nailed it lol

@ThongNguyen-so5ut 2 года назад

best comment everrrrr!!! lmaooo

@QuintessentialEvolution 4 года назад

As with ceramic coating's excellent water beading effect ... The sun's light in the water acts like a magnifying glass that burns into the paint, thus leaving etched water spots

@Niko-xz5lk Год назад

But then you also get that with a quality wax, so this isn't a specific problem to ceramic, more a problem for people who keep their car well protected.

@gautamguna6459 3 года назад

how long does the ceramic coating last in ur opinion?

@KOL630 3 года назад

Wouldn’t this happen with any water on a vehicle whether it’s spotted or blobbed on a non coated car?

@edruiz6364 4 года назад

TW Seal N Shine encapsulates just like that but as long as it doesn't bake in after a day, it's fine. It rinses off. My cousin's car sat in his drive way over 2 months with the sprinkler's reclaimed water. I told him it needed to be stripped and polished and offered to do it for free. Any recommendation on a medium cut polish to use? I don't think my 3D Speed will do it.

@deant6627 4 года назад

Is it OK to use a shemagh on ceramic coating after washing car to dry it?

@jarrettgorin 2 года назад

So I guess here's the question.... What would happen in this exact same case without the ceramic coating? Do you avoid this problem or do you have a worse problem? Is the ceramic coating causing a problem that you wouldn't have without it? I watched this whole thing waiting to see the "dark side" but I'm missing it.

@HawkProDetailing 2 года назад

It's good that your clear cost is protected, the coating gets the water spot. You do want protection for sure. IF car sat in the sun enough you could get clear coat failure. But the water is more likely to sheet off than bead. Some protection products do sheet more than bead

@willsrestorations 2 года назад

@@HawkProDetailing may I ask what ceramic coatings do you use

@h1989w7373 4 года назад

I always educate my customers, it saves me a lot of headaches

@goranzebic1729 4 года назад

What about ice rain and snow freezing climate etc no garage thinking about getting my silver painted cadillac coated is it gonna be worth 550$ and what is the best all season type of ceramic or any other coat i love the paint and am wortied it will fade and look shitty after a cold vermont ice winter with all the salt on roads is it wort please help

@henryfreeman6113 4 года назад

Yes. Highly recommend a coating. It’s worth it. Will definitely save you money. Only do a coating if ur car is owned. Just my view. If it’s a lease who cares

@sixthside 2 года назад

Will clay bar from McGuire's take the water spots off? Can I skip the wheel cleaner if I use the cray bar?

@kylelangley8818 3 года назад

What he failed to mention is that with ceramic coatings you don’t have to do monthly/quarterly paint decontamination with chems, clay, & polish if your car is a daily driver hitting 1,000 miles+ each month. Traditional ceramic coatings are chemical resistant unlike wax & sealant. They also resist against road dust friction better than wax or sealants since a coating is thicker, so it wears away slower. Carnauba wax will evaporate when paint panel exceeds 140 degrees F from the sun and generally lasts about 1-2 months or roughly 2,000 miles from personal experience. They’re all great protections for paint. Wax & sealants are usually inexpensive to apply as a car enthusiasts, however you’ll definitely need 3 step paint correction if you want your wax/sealants to out shine road/traffic film.

@19Clutch69 2 года назад

Err. Fusso handle the road salt and environmental chemical like a boss..and yes, there are ceramics that fade away

@kylelangley8818 2 года назад

@@19Clutch69 Fusso is a coating in paste/wax form. That isn’t a traditional carnauba wax.

@dylandream2248 2 года назад

Sounds about right. However if one wants to forgo a true ceramic coating for alternatives then depending on your process layers will protect it for a exceptional time not as long as true ceramic coating perhaps. For example: Wash Claybar Paint correction Hybrid ceramic ie: Hydroslick Glaze Sealant Wax That’ll do you for a while

@rawwwwable Год назад

You are so right. That’s exactly what happend to my black car just 1 week after ceramic coating 🥹

@HawkProDetailing Год назад

😬

@stevey5203 4 года назад

I've never had a ceramic coating. I have always wandered about how difficult it is to remove and reapply after it starts to wear off. The second application process. Does that make it worth it also?

@runner4life1984 4 года назад

Steve Y Some ceramic coatings are permanent bonded to the clear coat! The only way remove is to sand it off. A pro will have to sand it to a point where vehicle may need to be re-clear coated to preserve the paint. I went with a permanent coating to end waxing every few weeks. 3 Coats of ceramic on my car and it’s easier to clean with every wash a year later. Did a correction & compounding prior to applying ceramic coat. I don’t mind left over imperfections (battle scars) as car was bought used but was taken care of by previous owner. A lot of money saved just by using only soap & a Gallo’s enhancer. No more waxes, sealants, sprays etc... Also,the coating was done before last winter and the snow/ice just slid off. The salt hardly stuck to body as it washed off from times where it warmed up. A great investment doing the Ceramic Coating as the processes leading up to the finished product were worth the long hours of prep & applying each coat.

@Rascal157 4 года назад

runner4life1984 so are you saying this water spot / sun baked dirt issue isn’t as bad as this guy says it is?

@JsT_187 3 года назад

@@runner4life1984 permanent? Re clear coated?

@siclmn 3 года назад

When I was growing up I remember them showing how glasses in your dishwasher would show water spots until they added an ingredient so that the water would sheet off and no water spots any more. Why don't they have this in car wash soap?

@Mechadondada 3 года назад

Yeah, mix some Cascade in your wash bucket and hope for the best.

@marcusbarnes5929 2 года назад

Would opti coat hyper seal as a topper on opti coat pro plus stop water etching?

@xorbitman 2 года назад

How about the new GRAPHENE coating? I hear that's better than Ceramic. I did the Meguiar's Ceramic coating (spray bottle) myself and I'm getting spots not on the body but on the bumper. I have a red solid non metallic paint; Infiniti 2012 G37xS Coupe. They have that clear coat that's "self healing" in the sun (UV). It doesn't show up until its cold. I'm sure it was water spotting due to the coating. I did the application by the instructions too. My detailer tried a light compounding with his buffer the other day and surprisingly it didn't fix it. What do you recommend?

@HawkProDetailing 2 года назад

All water spots are different. The reality is most cars will get water spotting...that's just the truth. Coated or not. Wax and sealants make the beading happen as well, which looks pretty and grabs dirt but can often sit on horizontal surfaces. If compounding won't do it (sometimes this heats up paint, drives minerals in and it looks great but spots re appear in the sun) you have to wet sand. But there are a lot of variables here, a 10 year old car....and a detailer who I know nothing about nor his machine, buffing liquid nor technique 🤣

@stf7739 4 года назад

For everyone talking **** about this vid, try to understand the point of ceramic coatings in the first place, because this man is absolutely correct concerning the cons of ceramic. Water beads are great, if they bead OFF the vehicle. If the vehicle is sitting still and there is no airflow, then those beads will sit IN ONE PLACE until the sun dries them onto the surface. If water does not bead OFF the vehicle, you are left with water spots and all the dirt they held, effectively canceling out the reason for using ceramic in the first place. Are you people really this dense or what?

@siclusiferx 4 года назад

S T F yea and what's the solution?

@stf7739 4 года назад

@@siclusiferx The solution is to praise the devil. That will keep the dirt and moisture off your vehicle 100%.

@teslamozak1 4 года назад

Dirt and water spots are main reasons to have a coating Because they are on THE COATING and not ON THE PAINT So basicaly stupid video...wasted my time

@stf7739 4 года назад

@@teslamozak1 So I take it that you think the main purpose of ceramic coating is to protect the clear coat, versus maintaining an easier surface to clean and a cleaner appearance for longer. Ok, then why opt for Ceramic instead of a simple wax and sealant which also protects the clear coat, or just routine washing maintenance which protects the paint as well?

@teslamozak1 4 года назад

S T F nobody said you must have a coating! Wash your car every day Wax it,buy cheaper sealants (because good coatings are expensive) or what ever you think is good... But! Making videos that says DARK SIDE OF COATINGS and then rant some stupid things like dirt and water stains (which will form on wax or sealant asswell!!) is waisting peoples time,stupid and misleading Thats why I said its a stupid video.Im not defending coatings against wax or sealants They are all good products and even a good coating needs periodical maintenance So car with coating wax or sealant is sure better than car washed every day witout anything on its clear coat to give it extra protection...if someone wants it in first place.

@san5a89 4 года назад

does this happens with ceramic coatings as well as with silica sprays? (like turtle wax ceramic coating or car pro ceramic coating sprays)

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

It can. No reason to freak out, but with all that a pro grade coating promises...this info can be helpful since an average customer might experience this and not be super happy

@san5a89 4 года назад

@@HawkProDetailing actually I'm more attracted by the higher hardness of the surface with the ceramic coating. they claim it can repare the paint from scratches and swirls but I'm still skeptical... what do you think about that?

@senseipt 4 года назад

So are you saying one will get more waterspots with a ceramic coating than without?

@austinsears1637 4 года назад

Oh, welp I guess he's too cool to answer your question.....

@QuintessentialEvolution 4 года назад

I'm a detailer ... You will surely get less water spots with ceramic

@stuartboyd6340 3 года назад

Doesnt the water evaporate after a few hrs

@mamba109 3 года назад

Yep did a test on my own car, half ceramic, other half just regular wash no protection. The ceramic half had tons of water spots compared to the other half. Sheeting > beading. I'm wondering if there's a product that promotes water sheeting, so ALL the water slides off together, and not just bubble up in place.

@racheat 3 года назад

The surface tension of water will not allow one large sheet to form.

@rawwwwable Год назад

Bro is the water in the video hard water from the hose or it’s rain water ? Does rain water cause hard water spots also ?

@HawkProDetailing Год назад

rain water does indeed cause water spots!

@LazyFaux5656 4 года назад

I have a 2020 GT and it rained today and was left out to dry like any normal car, and it had 0 water spots. It looked as if I just got It off the lot. lol

@sstylesfabs 3 года назад

Are you the same guy who demonstrated the dynon d100 in the sport cruiser Aircraft?

@constantdarkfog49 5 лет назад

I use the Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Wax, I put on a few healthy coats & I've not had any water spot problem. I can let my car air dry after a good rain & it drys spot free.

@HawkProDetailing 5 лет назад

+Chuck Pestacchi i gotta try that stuff!

@constantdarkfog49 5 лет назад

I picked up a bottle at my local Walmart, loved it so much I ran back & grabbed a second bottle, It's an amazing coating. Really worth a try. Shine On

@Oivey2000 4 года назад

@@HawkProDetailing I just bought a used Lexus SC430 & had paint correction (wet standing/compounding/heavy wax/polish) and it looks great. No ceramic coating, but just like you said...even with the recent wax/polish job, when it rained the next day I came out later and it had spots all over it. I tried using a Quick Wet/Dry wax spray & it just smeared. Only thing that brought it back to shine was to wash it by hand and, while still wet, dry the car by hand with a towel. Then the shine came back spot free. Sounds like the same as it would be with the coating based on your video. So for cars only waxed (or ceramic coated), if you come out after a rain and want to get rid of the spots but don't have the time or interest to wash the car & hand dry, what do you recommend? Is there a product you can buy that you can spray and wipe off easily to get ride of the baked on water spots/smudges & bring back the shine on a dry vehicle?

@maemilev 3 года назад

*Once your car have accident. Ceramic coating will gave you headaches as the other part of your car will have a color difference!*

@DallasStorm43 3 года назад

You just get it redone after your car is fixed.

@codymilmine45 3 года назад

Dude I wish I saw this earlier I applied some title wax hybrid solutions on it and like you said it's full of water spots where before I go two weeks woth out a wash it's fine not issue now its full of water spots from the dirt water and the sun

@matthewgibb2640 5 лет назад

Beads are a problem with any protectant. The other downside with some coatings are solvents in the formula. Some solvents will reduce gloss

@HawkProDetailing 5 лет назад

+Matthew Gibb but the beads look so gooood😎

@amrautospa 4 года назад

This is true. They are extremely prone to water spotting. I’m currently looking for a coating that sheets water rather than bead

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

The problem is our industry is addicted to water beads -- so I dont see it (sheeting) becoming mainstream. Beads just look cool

@amrautospa 4 года назад

You can but baby oil on the paint and it will bead. Lol beading isn’t everything.

@chrislocke9852 3 года назад

Plasti dip 😂🤷🏾‍♂️

@Niko-xz5lk Год назад

@@HawkProDetailing Beading is a pain in the arse. My car beads and takes a couple of days to dry after downpour, compared to virtually everyone else's car that dries within minutes. It seems to me that the better the protection, the longer the drying times after rainfall. Great video by way.

@codename7832 4 года назад

Thats why you use Ceramic Coating Top Coat every few washes like CarPro Reload, OptiCoat Seal etc. Thats what protects ceramic coating from getting water spots.

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

I know that frequent maintenance is the best way to prevent those possible water spots from etching. I guess frequent application of a sealant makes sense too:)

@gregsullivan7408 4 года назад

In that case, I'd just use the "toppers" and forget about the coating. Has anyone done a long term test - compare two panels after, say, a year - one panel would be coated and then maintained with toppers, the other would not be coated, but would be maintained in the same way with the same toppers. See if there is any difference. By the way, Ivan Lacroix said that Gloss Coat does not sit "on" the paint - it sits IN the paint. So Gloss Coat can't POSSIBLY be a "sacrificial layer".

@jc4074 4 года назад

I don't recommend ceramic coatings to my customers on daily driven vehicles. They respect my suggestions and prefer a deep cleaning and sealant. My customers become a maintenance client every four weeks. Great vids and congratulations on the new shop. 👍

@Chainyanker007 4 года назад

J C - So by not recommending a ceramic coat you get more frequent customer repeats to do a deep cleaning job? I see.

@stf7739 4 года назад

In other words, you give your clients bad advice so they'll give you more business. Got it!

@Rascal157 4 года назад

S T F is it actually bad advice? I drive daily and park outside. Should I do sealant or coating?

@littlehuey5679 4 года назад

Dose snow slide off with the coating after it sits for a while?

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

It just depends but yeah it can as it melts

@templar777able 4 года назад

My experience is that the sun or heat evaporates the water then because it has ceramic coating the dirt that was left does not penetrate the clear coating of the paint. The ceramic coat would make the cleaning easy.

@seang3101 2 года назад

I think these are valid points. Id consider it more for vehicles that will be garage kept or vehicles with wax applied over the ceramic. Sun baked waterspots would suck bawls.

@richardsalinetrojr1957 3 года назад

Technically if you gave the car a good buffing before using any type of ceramic coating the water should pretty much sheet right off the surface,not bead up and sit there.usually when I do a full exterior detail I'll wash vehicle and claybar the vehicle panel by panel as im washing it then once completely dried off and all water blown out of all crevices I'll give it a good compounding followed by a good glazing.once that's all done I'll usually wash vehicle down again then take it for a quick drive to dry vehicle off thoroughly then hit it with a quality spray detail followed by a good quality waxing.only after all that I'll apply a ceramic coating and in all honesty the water should pretty much sheet right off the car regardless of what surface the water is on.even if water doesn't all come off just take a quick ride to dry everything off and hit it real quick with a spray detailer.with the method I use even black stays looking new long long after my initial detail.hell I haven't detailed in over 3yrs and I still get regular calls from wholesaler I used to detail vehicles for asking if I can do work for him because he was soo impressed with how everything I did turned out.if dude was willing to pay what I charge for my work and would pay weekly I wouldn't hesitate but sometimes it took upwards of a month to get paid for vehicles I did for him.in that months time I'd do like 2 vehicles a day($350/per vehicle if it was a car $475 for trucks)so by end of month he'd owe me upwards of 25,30k and sry that shit don't fly when you have other people to pay not to mention cost of materials as well as rent for shop and all the utilities and don't forget about all the taxes at end of year.shit adds up quick.can make a pretty good living doing detailing assuming you can make a good name for yourself and provided you have clients that pay in a timely manner.

@iamsam8446 4 года назад

You pay so much for a coating, then you're a slave to it because you spent so much. I keep going back and forth if I should get a coating, but I've come to conclusion that washing my car once a week (or every other) and wax every 3 to 4 months is good enough. Applying a coating is not only fairly costly, but if you do it yourself you have to worry about remove high spots, etc. Wax/sealants do the same thing, you just have to do it more often.

@quintenquet 3 года назад

When you wash your car every week, you are allready a ‘slave’ to it.

@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange 2 года назад

I am only leaning towards getting a ceramic coating for my new car because I have a garage. If I didn't have a garage it would be a daily pain to keep up with mother nature.

@oriangalore 2 года назад

Ain’t nobody got time for this shit

@Niko-xz5lk Год назад

@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange Most detailers would say the opposite. Ceramic is better for people who don't have a garage and their car is exposed to the elements. Ceramic provides a stronger, more durable and more protective layer against the elements than a wax does. If you can keep your car regularly garaged, many people will opt for a wax, as it won't degrade as fast as a car left outside.

@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange Год назад

@@Niko-xz5lk I decided to go with full PPF wrap and ceramic on top plus ceramic wheels and interior. Overkill? Yes. But car looks better than brand new every day.

@redneck4200000 3 года назад

The harsh truth about this water spots happen regardless of ceramic coating lol

@ThongNguyen-so5ut 2 года назад

i support thos comment. lmaoooo

@poon723 4 года назад

water spot can also happen to cars that didn't have any coating on it if they have the right amount of water on it.

@pasqualepisani 2 года назад

I personally don't like the beading at all. I prefer sheeting and even more so, repellency of water like Rain X on a windshield. Do they make a product like Rain X that repels water for the painted surfaces of the car? Or better yet, can you apply Rain X on top of a ceramic coating?

@benwoodruff4466 2 года назад

Nice advice thank you, I might PPF the new car instead of CC this time around, water spots drive me mad. 👍

@themechanicsingh4159 3 года назад

I’m so frustrated with waterspots on turtle hybrid ceramic on my black bike pant,they come even after a watch,even using leaf blower ,like tiny micro water spots ,

@HawkProDetailing 3 года назад

If you are proactive with dumping a gallon of distilled water on hood after rain...or maybe some water spot remover on a wet microfiber after a quick hood wash...a little dwell time and then rinse...maybe that will help. But water spots are definitely a thing w/dark paint and coatings

@reeb9016 5 лет назад

I was thinking I'd put a coating on but then I also thought you'd always want to top it with a sealant (SIO2 or whatever) and then always use a drying agent. Even if not garage kept, since I don't have one. It just seems better to have the sacrificial layers.

@HawkProDetailing 5 лет назад

+Ree B on my coated vehicles I usually wash, paint prep as drying aid, and put a “topper” or sio2 sealant on top. I often wonder what so many toppers are for if the coating is already there lol...but I do love the idea of sacrificial layers and the sealant usually adds a little pop to the paint

@reeb9016 5 лет назад

@@HawkProDetailing yeah, I hear you. Guess it adds up to two sacrifices. 😜

@JoshGeorgeReel 3 года назад

So are you saying get it or don’t get it?

@JG-bx2xg 4 года назад

That wasted 4 minutes of my life

@toddmore7586 4 года назад

It was like pulling teeth

@biggjune2914 4 года назад

I would definitely agree. Surgery without the anesthesia.

@DanKirchner5150 4 года назад

only took 2 min of mine

@imedlahrech7975 4 года назад

Left the video right when I saw his face

@stefanpuffer 4 года назад

Me too. Going to go drive off a cliff now.

@RVingwithAndrewSteele 5 лет назад

Great video! Thank you for sharing the Truth!

@darrentoews3151 4 года назад

Ever heard of a towel...Adam Corolla

@TanselGaraj 3 года назад

What I call this is "protection paradox" Because this happens only on a paint protected car

@Tamimman 4 года назад

I thik if water is sun-dried on the vehicle surface, it causes spot regardless if it's ceramic coated or not. My bike was not coated but I've had the issue a couple of times. It goes off after 2 or 3 cleaning! I'm not sure if you're case was so bad!!!

@r.k862 2 года назад

Ive owned many clear coat cars without ceramic coatings and they never have water spot etchings.. The problem he is talking about is water etchings and not water spots

@brianolson3148 2 года назад

Let me hit this bong a little bit and then rewind this video and I think we will all be on the same page

@HawkProDetailing 2 года назад

Lol

@michaelkenney2845 2 года назад

Consumer coatings or professional coatings, 9h or 10h, with a topper of Si02 or not it doesn't MATTER! Until the market gets past the appeal of beads and moves to SHEETING where the coatings not just self clean but also self dry.....water spots will always always always happen. So for the average car that yea, might be garage kept at home, but sits in the parking lot outside at work 5 days a week, coatings are flat out a waste of time and money. Nobody is going to run out of the office or leave a movie everytime it rains and airdry their car to prevent them from forming. Coatings ONLY benefit the person charging to apply and then maintain. As cleaning a coated car is 1000% quicker and easier then a non coated car. But again water spots are absolutely inevtible.

@pasqualepisani 2 года назад

I personally don't like the beading at all. I prefer sheeting and even more so, repellency of water like Rain X. Do they make a product like Rain X for the painted surfaces of the car? Or better yet, can you apply Rain X on top of a ceramic coating?

@Mesaboogieman1 4 года назад

Interesting! First time I’ve heard anyone ever mention this... Good information - Thanks!

@noxx219 5 лет назад

Always use a spray sealant on top after coating a car to protect the fresh ceramic coating for the first 1-2 weeks, this is a known issue that coatings get waterspots easy at the beginning. After a 12-24 hour cure time i put a spray sealant on top before i get the car to a customer. Rainwater is not a problem then, just hard water that you use to wash your car can leave spots when you let it bake in under the sun. And depends on the coating of course.

@HawkProDetailing 5 лет назад

+NoxX definitely depends on the coating. They all perform differently for sure

@noxx219 5 лет назад

@@HawkProDetailing Yes and Gloss Coat is not a really good Ceramic Coating, and when i understand it right you apply it a few days ago. Just believe me the first 1-2 weeks are very important for a coating and you have to protect it with a spray sealent or something else that nothing can get into the coating until its cured. After that you have less to no problems with water spots from rain and can remove it with a normal shampoo.

@HawkProDetailing 5 лет назад

@@noxx219 I totally agree with u about first few weeks. gloss coat isn't much of a coating but I saw the beads and thought, let's make a video! I still think if you have massive water beads from rain and then you get a blast of sunshine....they can bake in and it can be problematic

@MrDroid0518 5 лет назад

Aren't the rain water spots far less aggressive?

@96jonsson 5 лет назад

yes not so much chalice

@Russellsagecline 2 года назад

I'm older than this young Nuclear Physicist, but I remember using the old basic wax on cars 40 years ago and we had the same issue when the sun dried water beads on the paint.

@HawkProDetailing 2 года назад

Lol

@ludwigrotin5891 3 года назад

I use igl coatings, then I apply their sealant on the coating and I leave the car with waterspots for weeks then I just hand wash it then they're gone. Depends what brand you use.

@codymilmine45 3 года назад

Turtle wax ceramic coating you probably need to wash it atleast every week or even dry it anytime it gets wet with dirt on it

@Dope.And.Pretty 2 года назад

Aren't water spots caused by minerals in tap water? Shouldn't condensation from the air not have these same minerals?

@anthonyvallario7561 3 года назад

If it didn't have the ceramic coating wouldn't the water in the dirt still be on the hood?

@matthewdumas5342 4 года назад

I guess I missed the point. If I did not have ceramic coating, I would still get water spots on my brand new paint. That brand new paint, being porous, would be more damaged then if it had ceramic coating on it. The ceramic fills in the pores with the SIO2. The water spots are not going to be permanent.

@papapatriarchy 4 года назад

So, same thing that happens with a sealant or a Nuba... Got it.

@lead-dog 4 года назад

Hey Hawk...you make an excellent point in my opinion. I worry about water spots from these various spray ceramics as well. But don't you get the same type "beading" when you apply a nice coat of carnauba wax???? Isn't damned if you do...damned if you don't. First time I have seen your channel. Will check out a few more videos. Thanks.

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

Thanks man! In a lot of ways...yes. But coatings are so popular right now...and to be honest I do believe they are the superior technology for car protection in 2019. They are just not perfect...

@lead-dog 4 года назад

@@HawkProDetailing As we know nothing is....always a trade off no matter what the endeavor. Keep up the good work.

@Floppyflopzee._sleepybunnie 4 года назад

My car allready have water coating.. Can i use ceramic coating after 1 month?

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

What do you mean by water coating

@templar777able 4 года назад

Water spotting maybe?

@Titan7170 4 года назад

Doesnt the dirt just dry on top of the ceramic coating? Tell me how the dirt goes past the ceramic coating into the clearcoat?

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

You should check out a video on my channel called How Waterspots Form, it gives you a sense of that process. I'm pretty sure the water spots just go into the coating, though I supposed it's possible that they penetrate the clear coat. I'm no scientist lol. But waterspouts are definitely more likely on dark colored vehicles because of how hot the paint gets -- the minerals "bake in" because of capillary reaction? onto the edges of the waterspout and then etch because of the heat, even after the rest of the water evaporates...

@Titan7170 4 года назад

@@HawkProDetailing i understand that. Water spots with dirt will etch into the clear coat...but not through the ceramic coating if its protecting the clear coat and thats the whole point of ceramic coating, to provide an extra barrier that can protect the actual paint much better and longer than wax....which will definitley let contaminant s through. Id rather have a glass coat than a wax coat!

@freddieweimann3602 2 года назад

I always use the kitchen sponge with dawn detergent and then use 220 grit sandpaper to get out any impurities then use meguirers cannibal wax and rub with microfiber towels

@napadaanlng69 3 года назад

Local home service auto detailing owner says to me that he's not a fan of ceramic coating cause ppl thought it would last years but in reality and not everyone mentions this - if you live in a tropical climate where the sun always shines, your car with a ceramic coating parked outside direct to the sunlight, the ceramic coating can fade 3 weeks.

@GoldCoast85 3 года назад

I guess this may be a problem. In Australia if I get abit of rain, the sun then completely spots all over. Guess yes need to wipe down car after it rains which isn't much where I am

@batvon39 3 года назад

Why so many dislikes? This is true and makes perfect sense but no one seems to talk about it. I use a quick detail spray with SiO2 components to remove the dirt spots but yeah...gets annoying to do a maintenance wash and have it rain a day or 2 after and leave perfect mineral deposit spots all over the vertical surfaces.

@S_Paoli Год назад

solution: apply the whole car with PPF first.... then a complete ceramic coating on top of that, then another sealant on top of the ceramic to protect it... then thorough waxing to cover all that.... of course, when it does rain, make sure you keep half a dozen large towels to dry it off, no matter where you are... at the office parking lot of your home driveway.... or in the hotel parking lot if you happen to be traveling.

@DarenJoelAli 3 года назад

Wait,, so,, if the water doesn't bead it doesn't form water spots? 🤔🤔🤔

@thejworks07 3 года назад

The deeper the water technically the more evaporation will occur before the bottom water layer seals onto the paint causing a stain Also the cooler the temp of the exterior will remain lower until that point in time good idea though almost had em

@TechTokOffical 4 года назад

How many times "did u get honest with us" in this video. Is "getting honest with us" something that happens often?

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

To be honest...very often🤣

@swilson1378 4 года назад

Easy way to get rid of those water spots mate. I find steel wool works great. Quick rub over the whole car. Leaves the surface nice and smooth and only takes a few seconds.

@cannonball1395 4 года назад

That’s a great way to get the entire top of your head Caved inward boy

@Johnny-jw1iz 3 года назад

LMAO Stephen Wilson 😂😂😂

@jeremydebruyn8346 4 года назад

Really boet..I've never heard so much nonsense..

@samyu3065 Год назад

I usually drive on highway for 10 min after washing my car at self-service carwash.

@RacerScott Год назад

Possibly the best solution would be a portable di water system, quick power wash of di water and rinse away those mineral and sap filled water spots

@xp2autocare 4 года назад

Yapsss that the fact !!!! Beads make waterspot.....if you live in my country Indonesia (extreme climate +-40'C) ....you will notice how cruel the beading effect to the paint.......when it dry by sun......but that was the selling point for ceramic coating......what can i say??? YOU SHOULD LOOK AT SKETCH CORPORATION FROM JAPAN...THEY MAKE A HYDROPHILIC COATING.....THATS CAN LAST FOR 2 YEARS HYDROPHILIC......

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

Sweet! Can you provide me a link?

@xp2autocare 4 года назад

@@HawkProDetailing www.sketch.co.jp/english/company.html

@remy7663 3 года назад

Keknya maksudnya hydrophobic deh? wkwk

@MrAndo856 3 года назад

Your vehicle is stored outside so what did you expect to happen. Ceramic coatings are for garage kept vehicles , not for something that just sits in the elements like that.

@Jeeper1378 5 лет назад

If had my ceramic coating for a year and unless i use hard water to rinse i dont have spotting issues. With that said i also use a topper.

@HawkProDetailing 5 лет назад

+Jeeper1378 I love toppers. Do you ever wonder though...if your vehicle is coated, why do you need a topper? Lol

@Jeeper1378 5 лет назад

Hawk Pro Detailing haha more a drying aid that leaves extra shine and slickness.

@xavierclerc6401 3 года назад

How about using your garage?

@thingsido6067 4 года назад

Waterspots from comdenced water or rain? In theory this type of water (condenced steam) can't contain the minerals that are in regular tap water and thus cant leave waterspot so probably it has something to do with other contaminants that are on the paint. I use collected rainwater for car washing, my vehicle is sealed and waxed and got the same type of beads, sometimes I just let the car dry in the sun and never had an issue with water spotting. Why don't you get a test panel out and try to find out what exactely is causing the waterspots?

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

Wow you use rain water for washing? I just assume there is too much pollution lol

@DRTYFN 4 года назад

This guy’s logic reminds me of that dope Robert Francis “Beto” O’rouke.

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

Hell yes I'm going to take away your water spots!! Lol

@aybskirmish6217 4 года назад

@@HawkProDetailing lol😂😂 you're alright

@accidental_relevance 4 года назад

So to be clear, dope means bad again, right?

@switchtheflip9422 4 года назад

@@accidental_relevance dope as in dopey not as in cool

@alexmora2723 2 года назад

A very honest video , well done 🙏🏻

@walterdelorrell4041 4 года назад

The same thing will happen to any car where rainwater is allowed to set in the sun. The water acts as a magnifying glass and the particulates may eat into the paint. A ceramic coating will not cause a worse problem than ordinary car wax. This is based on personal experience.

@HawkProDetailing 4 года назад

Thanks for your feedback! Its true..its just those water beads are so tight with coatings

@codymilmine45 3 года назад

Ya but they get into the ceramic coating which usually leave a pretty hard and durble finish that tough to get off the paint where I go two weeks with out a wash wash it I've seen it look fine I coated it not knowing this and now its full of water spots

@aleshyabarbour6389 4 года назад

I add it to the maintainance package.

@oldirongutz 2 года назад

Had a dealer pre paid ceramic coating applied (in the invoice sticker) no way out of this since it was lot bought, So I pick up the truck looks real good. Having seen this twice, I thought what about microfiber drying (BEFORE THE SUN DRIES SPOTS INTO THE COATING) does that make sense. If you don't let it dry in the sun, shade dry even better, and wipe it (BEFORE) it dries there is NO problem to deal with. You Got Up Too Early Dude

@SmileyManPrince 2 года назад

Water spots are always going to be more noticeable on darker cars and always will be on cars.regardless if you have ceramic coating or not. The only real difference is the gloss, slickness, and extra protection that comes with ceramic coating. The real thing I hate about ceramic coating is the haze after your car gets wet….. it runs down your door handles, your trunks, your side mirrors, and many other place.

@dair805 3 года назад

Hasta que por fin alguien dijo la verdad!!!! 😅😅

@timothyvu7006 Год назад

For a daily driven car, very rarely do you have a situation where the car will bead water like this, doesn't matter the type of protection. It only happens after you wash your car. Although it's disconcerting to know that a water spot can form and the only way to take it off is with harsh chemicals or with a polish. I expect an expensive coating to resist environmental factors without a need for correction.

@perfectiom3718 Год назад

Never seen rain or foggy before?

@timothyvu7006 Год назад

@perfectiom3718 If it's raining or foggy, than you don't have the sun out.

@perfectiom3718 Год назад

@@timothyvu7006 jezz either you ignorance af or you just never been outside before. YoU dOn'T hAVe tHe sUn Out 🥴

@zeus-io3hn 4 года назад

nothing can stop water etching.

@fullwerkes 5 лет назад

Here is question would the water spots happen if they had been on a wax that beaded...the answer is yes but into clear coat. stopping water marks is more than just the protection on the car.

@HawkProDetailing 5 лет назад

+fullwerkes I hear ya. Ryan Hendricks with FTA Detailing also made the same comment and I agree. I just don’t think the average consumer is always educated well enough to make a decision based on all the facts. Coatings are great, but they have pros...and cons. Swissvax has a great video comparison about coating vs. wax

@fullwerkes 5 лет назад

@@HawkProDetailing Saying it is education is a little bit of a cop out with all due respect. Yes absolutely the pro's and con's need to be made visible to the clients as they will represent some of the value statements that you would provide to your customers. Yes a coating may not suit all use cases however the etching issue is just over simplified or catagorised wrongly in my opinion. Would you have made a video if the wax was on the car? I would bet you wouldn't have and there is the problem right there. I am lucky that I work in the coorporate world, I have been a professional detailer also for many many years and now run my own car care company, I just think that if we make videos we should try and avoid casting this type of message without discussing the other topics around it.

@HawkProDetailing 5 лет назад

happy to discuss the other topics around it. Like what?@@fullwerkes

@fullwerkes 5 лет назад

@@HawkProDetailing how often someone washes their car, the products they use to maintain it and how often, how it is stored during the day and at night, climate, temperature, local environmental conditions, type of vehicle... Rain water on its own may not cause water spots but in some areas it does depending on mineral content... Hard water areas, sprinklers, time of the day they wash their car. I mean the variables are endless... Saying a coating causes water spots is one part of the story.

@r.k862 2 года назад

@@fullwerkes Dude are you being serious. He explained in the video that if there is minerals etc in the water and it dries on the car that it will have water spot etchings THIS DOESNT HAPPEN WITH CLEAR COAT. Ive had clear coat cars for many years and i hardly wash them but they dont form permanent water spot etchings like they do with ceramic coatings, i hear people complain so much about ceramic coatings how bad they are about this topic. Lets all agree that this is a serious problem and not avoid it by saying what shampoo products garage etc etc