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Actual therapist here. Alex behavior in this is why people are so iffy about therapy. To be a licensed mental health professional and not be able to let the word insane go is wild. We meet people where they are, not inflict our own discomforts on them.

I have been going to therapy for 3 years and this reminded me of the worst session I have ever had. Lord.

as a therapist myself, and a huge fan of this podcast, this was the only episode that I couldn’t finish because the therapists inability to let you speak was so upsetting. to me, this felt very much like her wanting to demonstrate her insights and not so subtly share her own opinions. I hope in time she grows the confidence to sit back and let her training speak for itself so that she doesn’t feel so compelled to constantly fill the void or interrupt those in dialogue with her.

the therapist is absolutely insufferable. I was only able to finish this because I love hearing about Dev

My therapist never interrupts me. Saying "ok" "mmhmm" is not giving me listening skills. Making noises while someone is talking drowns out certain details when someone else is talking. It gives corporate meeting vibes. She must either like talking or she has so many clients that she is used to getting people to the point under 1 hr time slots. Move them in and hurry to ship them out.

If this chick was my therapist, I’d leave my sessions feeling even more insecure. Jesus 🤦🏻‍♀️

" can i just ..." " can we talk about that ..." GIRL NO YOU CAN'T.

The way she “asks” questions, but in the question has a blatant opinion. It’s enraging. She is lacking social etiquette. She’s not truly listening to Devs answers, she’s interrupted every sentence, finishing most sentences for her. “Is there and and coming.” She’s trying to direct the conversation in the way she wants it to go, you can see she rehearsed these questions and responses. 😅

Kinda funny how Alex’s first “teaching point” is that therapists either have their own agenda for the session or their approach is to let their client take the lead. Then she proceeds to interrupt, change direction of the conversation, etc., throughout the whole conversation!!! LOL 😂😂😂. She seems to love hearing her own self talk-at the expense of the person trying to tell their story. That’s a shame. As others have mentioned, active listening and being able to control your own impulses to interrupt and control the interaction are two of the most important skills of a successful counselor, therapist, social worker, doctor, etc. Alex seems super hyperactive throughout the session and either doesn’t understand the importance of letting the person talk or just cannot control herself from interrupting-in which case, she should learn how to manage that before trying to counsel vulnerable people. She seems either very inexperienced or just egotistical with a deep need to control the interaction.

this is the kind of therapist that makes you not want to go to therapy

this lady is the most insufferable guest you’ve had on here😭 she was all over the place, refused to let the conversation flow, and was annoyingly condescending towards you

Not only the therapist is showing a great deal of passive judgement, but also deep-rooted insecurity. I love how Dev stood up for herself so naturally and was so patient and eloquent when faced with such rude behaviour. (there's no way her two previous therapists were worse than this one, ick)

Honestly Alex was annoying. Changing topics , interupting Dev while shes actually trying to hold a conversation rather than doing a q&a, her tone was more condescending than anything else.asking silly questions, the use of the word "insane" like common , drop it 😒

The therapist not even being able to hear the word insane and just let it go because it’s her personal opinion is insane

Hello, I'm an MD, just wanted to correct something here, you can definitely have bipolar and schizophrenia at the same time, great episode !

couldn’t even watch the rest of this😭😭 when the guest asked if you’re proud, it felt like she kept wanting to make you feel bad

I'm pretty sure she is judging you silently. Her body language and way of speaking says it all. Her aura is so negative...

I wish the therapist would let her finish her thoughts good lord

Massive respect to devs for not screaming, "CAN YOU LET ME TALK" haha

So let me get this straight, a social worker claiming to be a legit therapist goes on a podcast called “we’re all insane” and proceeds to take offense of the word “insane”. Then proceeds to be passive aggressive about her judgement of the host and one of her jobs. While also interrupting her constantly. With a dash of random gaslighting and having some clear narcissistic traits. This lady should not be working in mental health she’s insane.

The therapist asking "are you proud?" just sounded so condescending and jealous of Dev.

It's insane how vulnerable Dev is in this episode but at the same time self-aware, strong, smart, and real

I gotta say I wish your guest Alex would let you finish your sentences and not jump at every opportunity to speak for your experiences

I really wish the guest would let Dev finish her sentences. It was pretty unprofessional and seemed like a way of trying to control the narrative rather than letting someone feel like their voice matters. I truly enjoy Devs podcast. She is a natural at hosting and leads conversations so well while giving space for guest to share. It’s hard to come by and I appreciate this podcast so much. Hopefully future guest will continue to show her the respect she deserves ❤

This conversation almost makes me want to hurl because Alex’s questions sounds as if they are almost intentionally framed around to forcefully shame Dev

When she asked you if you were proud, she squinted her eyes while doing that, it’s a sign of distaste, it means subconsciously that she disapproves, whether she knew it or not. I have 3 psychology degrees. I know this lol. She wasn’t being helpful, she was being condescending

Alex needs to learn to let others speak. She is CONSTANTLY interrupting you. It's super annoying

Lord Jesus lol could not watch this episode comfortably! Alex seems like she cares more about looking knowledgeable and spewing info at every moment to prove she knows so much instead of activelyyyy listening to Devorah! I learned from my program that active listening is one of the most important things a social worker, counselor, therapist, etc. should practice! 😅😩

I honestly think you would make an excellent therapist Dev. You're naturally an active listener and also I bet you are very interested in studying the mind. You're intelligent, well-spoken, non-judgemental, warm and a great host of this amazing podcast. I think you and Julie reach excellence in every episode. Been here since 2019. Love you and I'm happy for you.

Alex sounds like the worst social worker / therapist. She literally interrupts Dev every single time she speaks. Mainly full blown interruptions. Sometimes just with loud yes's or quick remarks. Awful! her ego is so huge that she feels so important that she has to have control of each part. Shes not actually listening, just guessing what Devs answer will be and going onto another question before the answer. What a disgrace

She's constantly interrupting you, I don't see how she would treat patients if she can't let you finish and constantly finishes your sentence, shouldn't she know that's the last thing you should do? I've watched a few episodes and you do a much better job listening and asking appropriate questions at the right time than a trained professional.

I love how she’s making her say things differently cause she doesn’t like it.. she can say but and insane if she wants. This girl is actually pretty annoying and I never want to see any kind of therapist after this. Chick must be a control freak.

Please give another therapist a shot ….& make a second video. I would have loved to have learned more about you! I think the issue was, that she reached out to you, she wanted to be in your spotlight for a second. Shows that not everyone with a degree in this field is actually helpful …. I think you should pick someone & reach out to them.

woooo another good one to watch!!!!👏🏻

Alex keeps talking over you. It’s soooo annoying. She keeps asking and making confirmation sounds while you’re speaking every second.. it gave me so much anxiety watching this. Lol Dev you’re such a trooper 😂❤

Insanity is not just a term used for mental illness. Oxford: "Extreme foolishness or irrationality", Einstein: "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." It was a blanket term used in the medical field back when specific disorders weren't as researched and labeled as they are now. Now it's probably used more as a descriptive layman term than a diagnosis. All this to say, I don't think the podcast name is insensitive to those with mental illnesses.

This episode showcases why Dev is a great interviewer in her videos. She shuts up and lets the guest talk

"Not everyone has the education I have" 🤢

Love this episode because of the topics that were touched on and what Dev shared. But at the same time the guest tried to take too much control of the convo and interrupted Dev a lot. It rubbed me the wrong way that she wanted to change her vocab so much, why does she need to control how people express themselves just because it offends her and doesn’t suit her lifestyle. Her job shouldn’t dictate how others talk and other people don’t have to talk all politically correct to appease you. Loved Devs transparency and shared experiences I also do think the guest has a good voice for podcasts.

Dev, I really wanted to listen to this episode but couldn’t deal with this guest interrupting you every other second! Had to stop 20mins in

Thanks for your openness and honesty Dev. Please don't change the name of your podcast. This is a good episode

Weird that she said someone can't have bipolar and schizophrenia at the same time, my uncle was diagnosed with both, and I hope she touches more on that if she comes back on.

I literally hate this therapist.

lol the guest has a rigid way of interpreting things. when i read "we're all insane" its obvious to me that its a joke implying something to the effect of 'no matter what we are going through, we're not alone in our problems.' most of the guests on this podcast have opened up about deeply vulnerable things in their lives and that gives the viewers something to relate to. i suppose someone unfamiliar with the channel couldn't have known that. on the other end, Alex seems to have little regard for other people's capacity to judge. maybe it's due to her job, but she was quick to assume devorah is just clueless and needs to be corrected, when really her own understanding is what needs work.

I really liked the podcast mostly because of Dev. I feel like the guest is quite biased. She is really uptight and very curious of Dev’s life but not coming from a “trying to understand Dev and discovering her point of view” more like “I wanna make an opinion on her” “judge her” I don’t really appreciate those kind of personalities. ❤

I was really inspired by the way Dev communicated. She held space, was selfless, present and educated. She asked for consent and showed gratitude repeatedly and kept the topic on track in a kind and gentle way and really created an amazing container for this topic to be explained that can so easily go on forever.

I've been an OF creator since 2020 and I relate so much. At first I loved it, it gave me so much independence and freedom. Now it feels honestly horrible. The abuse and misogyny you encounter on a daily basis eventually wears you down. And yes about the sense of purpose. It feels like everyone around you is driven by something deeper and you're falling behind. Thank you for talking about this.

Omg I can’t finish this episode the guest cant stop bringing up a different topic without dev finishing what she was asked.

As someone with bipolar 2, that definition was completely wrong 🫠

Her guest makes listening to this podcast as much fun as nails on a chalkboard. I. Just. Can’t.

Anddddd this is why in my program my professors told us to be okay with silence, bc this therapist is doing too much 😭 like omg let her talk!!! I feel terrible for her clients

“I have the body for it” Anyone has the body for it. Literally everyone can do it, there’s an area for everyone to be included and become successful.

This guest is determined to not let deb finish a sentence.

I’m only about 10 mins in and I’m loving this episode so far!! The only thing I would suggest is maybe having the person introduce themselves a little more at the beginning and say what they do for a living? I love the long format of these videos though and I’m so excited every time you post!! 💗🥰

I don’t know, I wasn’t a fan of Alex. She felt like she was being condescending to me. I don’t know… Still very interesting episode.

I don’t know who this guest is, but she was so beyond disrespectful towards Devorah. It seems like she is actively trying to embarrass her, but Dev’s level of confidence is too high for it to work. I feel uncomfortable listening to the guest purely just talk. She didn’t come on the podcast with right ful intentions. She’s trying to prove she is knowledgeable and cares about people, but just comes across as belittling others. I don’t know where Devorah found her.

I think this would have been a much better podcast if Alex had allowed Devorah to speak uninterrupted.

Did anyone else get anxiety from watching this episode?

i wish she introduced her guests more bc im so curious on who they are and what relationship she has to them

I love how you're doing this on your own. I could always sense you were more deep and willing to be vulnerable than claud. I appreciate your realness❣❣❣

“Are you proud that you did OnlyFans?” Well, Alex…Dev is doing a legitimate job for money to pay her bills and be a responsible person. So the fact that you think a relevant question is “are you proud of it?” shows that you are being judgmental-otherwise why would you ask that question? You wouldn’t ask a person that question about other legitimate jobs, so why ask about this one. Dev already made it clear that she had no moral dilemma with being an OnlyFans creator, so the question really stands out as condescending and judge-y! If the question is coming from a place of concern, why not ask instead if her (legitimate) job presents any challenges to her wellbeing?

I agree with quite a bit of what Alex had to say about mental illness, but as someone with bipolar 2 who's experienced a manic episode with psychosis because of ssris, I would definitely not describe bipolar 2 as a ''calm wave'' or even mild comparatively. People diagnosed with bipolar 2 tend to have more depressions than bipolar 1 and hypomanias rather than manias. It can be equally and sometimes more disabling. The key difference in diagnosis is the severity of the high state. But i really liked this episode, just wanted to mention that. Really love this podcast, dev! Thank you!

"not everyone has the education I have" girl lol.. she is so intense ...

I once had a therapist like her and I only went one time, she was annoying and you can tell that she’s so inexperienced as a therapist just bc she knows “stuff” doesn’t mean she knows how to connect w ppl no matter how hard she tries.

Me: the whole time. -Let dev talk !

The fact that the therapist thinks some of us are not insane, is insane.

I wish I could hear this story without the topic changed every 5 mins. 😢 there was so much I feel was missed or brushed over.

as a psych nurse i really appreciated this conversation, more people need to be educated on these things!!

I thought from the title this conversation was gonna be about the dark side of OF ?

OMG.... We have a therapist and we have someone who loves to talk about themselves. This is also the one episode where we would REALLY get to know Dev. What did we get instead??? Interruptions galore. I can't tell you how many times I said "Geez, let her speak".

I’ve never watched a video with so much word gatekeeping! Gatekeeping the words “insane” and “crazy” okay, fine. Still a little weird. BUT making a big deal and interrupting Dev about the word BUT?! Was that serious?! Just let Dev speak and tell her story how she’s sees fit!!! Sometimes you don’t have to see things in the most positive light! Sometimes things are great BUT some things aren’t. It’s okay to acknowledge the negative side of things as negatives. Disregarding them as negatives doesn’t change that they’re a negative.

"I am not a psychiatrist." Clearly.

Alex never let’s you talk without interrupting,literally every other word she had something to say,feels like she was trying to take over the podcast

30 minutes in and this is my favorite episode thus far! I love the rawness and depth of conversation 🫶🏼 nice job dev!

This guest is awful. I think she has deep routed issues of JEALOUSY and is jealous of Dev for making loads of money on OF and also having a huge platform. Dev did all this on her own and didn’t need a college degree to do so. Alex is so rude and disrespectful. Just ew. Major props to dev for being so open, calm, and not taking this guests rudeness to heart. If Alex was my counselor I’d leave and never look back.

Soooo ready to watch this!! Got my dinner and son tucked in bed 😅. Thank you for being SO REAL AND VULNERABLE with everyone Dev. ❤ I can relate to you 🤍🌻

Anyone else annoyed by how much the guest interrupted?

Can she let devorah talk?! She wouldn’t let her finish a thought before asking another question

worst therapist ive ever heard oh my god

For anyone who is questioning about her diagnosis and stating you can’t be diagnosed with both things at once please be advised she’s just a social worker and should not be making diagnosis outside of her qualifications… extremely unprofessional.

Dude, no wonder why people stop believing in therapy

My favorite part of my week is when I get to pour a glass of wine and watch this podcast

I love this podcast but this episode at times was a bit hard to get through due to the interrupting on Alex's part (just my personal opinion, others can disagree ofc)

I had to stop watching because the therapist is soooooo annoying and can’t STFU and listen!!!!! So frustrating 😭😭😭

The MHMs and YES, YEAH are driving me insane

The fact that she asked if you get confidence from the external validation is WILD. That whole start of that conversation was so condescending on her part. Sneak disses like oh are you fulfilled? Not a fan of her.

it almost seems like she doesn’t like her and she is judging her!!! what kind of questions are those!!!!! she needs a new profession if this is the way she is with everyone.

“Oh” “yeah” “yeah yeah” next question* “ah” “wow” next question* “uh uh” “okay” “mhm” “yeah” “yeah” next question*

If anyone has seen the TikTok’s of people impersonating teachers with the “mmhmmm” “mmmm” “yeah” “mhm” this is what that guest is doing. I couldn’t finish this video.

Hi, I love this episode and I appreciate your willingness to open up about vulnerable topics. This makes me feel so understood. One note is there are people with both bipolar and schizophrenia. My ex was diagnosed with bipolar 1 and schizophrenia.

she's one of those people who nods and says "mhmm, mhmm" before she even knows what the other person is saying.

Listen, I really wanna hear what dev has to say but I can’t deal with this

Okay but Alex saying not to use “insane, ocd, crazy.” Is kind of crazy to me. 😂 Of course I know what she means, and I get not to misuse things and make light of actual disorders, but sometimes, especially used in everyday conversations, it’s not that serious. Like “We’re All Insane” is a cute catchy title. It’s not that serious.

While it isn’t common, and now it’s labeled as schizoaffective disorder bipolar type, a person can in fact have both bipolar disorder and schizophrenia at the same time. Also, to my knowledge, there are three types of bipolar disorder. The “milder” one she described is called “Cyclothymic Disorder”. Bipolar 1 is where the person experiences the awful mania. Bipolar 2 is where moods can go from even to high, but less high. However, their lows are severe.

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** You can have bipolar and schizophrenia together- it’s called schizoaffective disorder.

I am so glad you pointed out the fact that ADHD in women is much different than men and it can get worse the older we get. I have never been on meds, but my psych wanted to put me on adderall and I was like nope, dont want meds, it would be different if I was in school or needed to concentrate for a high stress job, but I am neither one of those, so I dont see the point in getting on meds. I can tell that these past few months my ADHD has gotten extremely worse to the point I forget why I got up and went to another room or I forget what I am talking about mid sentence and its crazy.

The guest’s tone and constantly saying “hmmm” or “oh” makes it seem as she’s being judgmental , on top of the constant interruptions. She needs a lot more experience and to listen more

😂who is this woman. Her “hmm, ahhh, uh huh, yeah” interrupting you was awful to listen to.

Aw love that she pointed out that youre a good listener. You really are Dev. I have a good friend from high school whom much like Dev, comes of as someone who is pretty oblivious about other people's thoughts or opinions. Fast forward to adulthood we still see each other and she would point out many different things that Ive said back then abt things that I myself have almost forgotten. Love to see this side of you Dev