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I always liked the Prius. One reason why I never got one, they're to small for me. I like a large full size luxury automobile. Love my full size luxurious jaguar XJL and the 570 miles of range it offers. Great for long distance traveling...
We own two Rav 4 Primes 2021. We have 44,000 miles over 4 years on one. Degradation has been about 10% over 4 years. In gasoline even with the extra 1,000 lbs our fuel economy is just as good as our previous hybrid Rav 4 2019 due to the larger battery capturing more regenerative braking and going down hills. I have charged our one Rav 4 2,000 plus times. I charge twice a day (work and home) and we only gas up every 6 months. The charge is free at work and .12 cents per kWh at home using my level 2 charger. I figure the 56 miles round trip cost me about .70 cents. Works for our needs.
Scotty is a really old and needs to retire. Technology has passed him by and he fails his explanation of EVs in so many videos. He is just clickbait for EV haters at this point. There are plenty of real pictures of people hating on cars in favour of horses from the turn of the last century. People get more and more set in their ways as they get older. It’s just how we are as a species.
We have had three Ford C-Max plug-ins. Range anxiety is none-existent due to the ICE engine being easily refueled. On long trips, we get mid to high 40's gas mileage. For in town errands, a $2.00 over night charge handles a day of running errands. We still have two years of a 10 year battery warranty, and the computer shows our normal driving range at 22 miles on battery. Resale value is about $2000 less than it cost us in 2017. Only oil changes, one set of tires, and a brake job since purchase.
@@jairuslau7280 that is bs on Toyota phev. If you are retarded and first drive ev mode to deplete battery completely and than drive hundreds of miles in hybrid mode. Than you got the point. But I plan my trip. I always start the trip with battery fully charged. I drive in hybrid mode on higher speeds and drive ev mode in city and slower roads. I would use ev mode for the last section of my road trip. In that way my battery helps the fuel efficiency the whole trip and my fuel consumption is much less than hauling empty battery.
Less fuel efficient ? Our 2024 Prime SE goes close to 60 miles in EV Mode. In Hybrid Mode on the highway we get 60+ mpg. Please, refrain from commenting on things you know nothing about.
@@TomLawlor-iq6gm actually if you calculate mpg on the gas tank or yearly mpg my rav4 phev gets over 100mpg. And rear tires that are still stock has 40.000 miles on them. This video is a horse sh*t. Don't take it personal
@@goranjurkovic6796 This video is worse than horse shit, it's misinformation. Plain and simple. Another desperate ply by the oil industry. We really are not too concerned with the hybrid milage, even though gas here currently costs $6.75 a gallon. Because, after 5,600+ miles, we have used just 2 tanks of fuel. And, we'll make sure that continues. We both know how sensible a PHEV is compared to either a BEV or straight-up ICE.
I just saw that video about electric cars in China, about how it is often more expensive to charge per mile than gas. They said it was cheaper at first, but then the cost of charging went up and now there is also a service fee added, and they can't understand what the service fee is for since they plug it in themselves. They feel like they've been cheated and lied to.
The service fee is for the charger to be there at all with someone rebooting it when it goes wrong. Chargers don't just sprout up for free and they are computerized and need to be rebooted occasionally. I always wondered why they didn't program to automatically reboot at midnight or something rather than have a tech go out and reboot them (after being down a few days) as happens in the USA. I guess the Battery car and charger builders aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.
No ev junk for this guy ever. I am 55 and have owned many gas powered cars since I was 16,you can keep your garbage ev junk, bomb 💣 on wheels, government over reach and control for your life. Plus I know how to make fuel out of manure so don't sit there and tell me how you're going to turn off the oil,I know lots of ways around that. And the same thing for the open air prison, 15 minute cities, i moved as far away from these garbage dump cities and towns as possible. 6 miles back a dirt road,no street lights, no traffic, no nosey neighbors and no homeless because of the bears and cougars and coyotes. Paradise. Good luck society. 👍.
So you never tried an EV and have no idea what they can and cannot do for yourself. Thanks for sharing your illiteracy about EVs I guess. The rest of don’t live in a bunker waiting for the end of the world.
The only battery my cars need is a 12v lead acid one to start the engine. After that the engine automatically generates a) its own motive power, b) all the electric power needed for luxuries like engine spark plugs, indicators, lights, wipers, HVAC, instruments etc. and then some. And still in my ICEs in all weathers I get guaranteed 400-500 miles range in one hop (depending which one I use) followed by a 100% range fill-up that takes a guaranteed maximum duration of 4 or 5 minutes however many other cars are also filling up at the same time at the same "recharging" location. Show me the EV that can do that. Name just one. I'll wait. Plus I can keep a gallon can or a 5-gallon jerry in the boot (trunk 🇺🇲) in case I run out. Can any electric keep a gallon of electricity in the boot? (Trick question: of course it can as long as it's a petrol powered generator to get you out of the shit you've dumped yourself in by buying any electric.)
Plus using your heat / air conditioner kills your range, not to mention the insurance costs. An EV would also cost me more in insurance premiums than it would save me in gasoline on a yearly basis.
@@gerrymaines2633 yes I know but the electric element of PHEV means electric traction motors, additional transmission mechanicals, and big batteries added to the ICE mechanicals plus all the wiring and incidentals. This all adds weight that consumes energy to move them around. I've driven one for work, barely got out of the yard after an overnight charge to 100% before the battery was spent and the ICE kicked in. Hybrids certainly overcome the range problems of BEVs because all marketing bullshit apart they're basically an ICE with frills but _except for short local journeys/commutes_ *ONLY* , in terms of saving the planet then existing ICEs are far less damaging than the headlong rush over the cliff that the present EV technology can offer, whether that's.BEV or PHEV.
@@patrickchubey3127 no true i have a phav and have had it for 17 months. my insurance did not go up. i get 60 miles to a electric charge. i have my car serviced at the same cost of an ice.
SCH (self charging hybrids) are the best of both worlds (ICE cars and BEV) because they have a very efficient ICE (usually in the Atkinson cycle) and a small battery that doesn't need to be plugged in as it is being charged when you brake or coast, recovering most of the kinetic energy that would otherwise get lost and that would deteriorate faster your brake pads, rotors, arms etc. Moreover, having a small hybrid battery allows for not having the starter, the alternator, the start/stop sh!t etc. Because the main purpose of the SCH is to save energy and reuse it for extra-performance, saving costs and ensuring reliability (Consumer Reports annual reliability survey placed SCH as the most reliable segment, opposite to the unreliable PHEV and BEV). I do recommend the hybrids from Toyota/Lexus, the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) will be small (top) while the reliability will be high (top again). While the PHEV are the worse of both worlds, having a bigger weight, with a bigger battery that has to be carried at all times, just like for a BEV. The only thing better for PHEV vs. BEV is the lack of range anxiety, but you still have the pollution, the dangerousness, the big TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) due yo the huge cost of replacing the battery, the unreliability etc. Still, if you insist on a PHEV, at least buy something like a reliable Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
@@codincoman9019 you didn't try rav4 phev. It is quantum leap from hybrids just as the second generation prius was back in the days. It is all bs with the weight. It is the best from both worlds. It acts as bev for every day usage without range anxiety. In the end my yearly mpg is about 150 mpg. Can your rav4 hev do that? And when fully charged and ice warmed up it is quick as hell. It is the quickest Toyota to 60 and quarter mile not counting bmw supra.
We have had two regular Prius hybrid cars (over 16 years), and they are great. However, neither could drive more than 2 Km on battery alone. Each car averaged 4.4 Km per 100 Km (53+mpg), year round. Marvelous milage for sure. But, we got our new Prius Prime PHEV six months ago. You do realize that a Prime is no different from a "normal" Prius right? It just has a bigger Traction Battery (13.6kwh), than the non-Prime's under 1 kwh battery. That bigger battery in the Prime makes a massive difference. After 9,097 Km (5,685+ miles), we have burned two tanks of fuel. That's 21.2 gallons in total. What were you saying about pollution........ . In EV Mode our Prime gets very close to 100 Km (62+ miles) in summer. With zero emissions, all our hydro is generated without fossil fuel. Gas here is currently $6.75 a gallon. We can drive our car for a fraction of what it would cost for the same distance with gas. In hybrid mode, the car exceeds 60 mpg, largely due to it's bigger battery, one that can self charge a lot more than the regular Prius so it adds more assistance to the ICE. The Traction Battery is guaranteed for ten years. So, after that time if there is significant degradation we can either replace it ($3,000), or, do nothing because the car will still give excellent mpg as a hybrid with a much larger battery. TCO ? The car cost $6,000 more than a regular Prius, but, we received $5,000 in rebates from our government leaving $1,000 in up-front extra cost over a regular Prius. In six months we have saved almost $618.90 in gas purchases. Our PHEV manual only recommends an oil change once a year because the engine seldom runs. I estimate that alone saves us $300+ a year. We don't expect to do any brake work on our Prime for at least ten to twelve years (just like our first two Prius cars).
I consider myself to be a frugal spender and I typically wait for a technology to prove itself, and decrease or stabilize in price, prior to making a decision to purchase. I see bold statements, often monthly, announcing game changing battery chemistry breakthroughs. Many of these announcements seem to be little more than "click bait" that never see the light of day, but a significant change in battery chemistry will most certainly cause the resale price of used EVs / PHEVs to plummet overnight. Few are interested in purchasing outdated technology unless the price is extremely low. Finally, I am not interested in purchasing a vehicle that could cause a potential fire hazard.
@@alexalex13131 it’s under the rear passenger seat, no where near the engine and about the same distance away as a tank full of gasoline which is statistically far more likely to catch fire. people worry about batteries catching fire yet you carry a mobile phone in their pocket, right next to their derrière. Fortunately electric car fires and burned asses are both quite rare.
How much does it cost to install the solar panel and it's yearly maintenance.?. What's the life cycle of the solar panel?. What's the overall cost of ownership?.
Some of us do NOT want those "technological features" !!🤬 I wwant to get in my car turn the key and drive. Of course I'll have the occasional pit stop for gas, and I have to dump a quart of oil in once in a while, but I'd rather spend my time (and money) on that stuff than Everytime I get in needing to input my destination, or precondition batteries.......🙄 I figure I'll buy a new, base model car in 3- 4 years and it will last me til I die (hopefully) so I don't have to deal with this other BS!!
I have had my PHEV KIA Nero 5 years now, gave it a lot of thought before purchase and I'm more than happy with the way it has gone. This will SELF CHARGE as you drive. Short journeys all electric, long ones on gas without range anxiety. Yes you are carrying more weight than ICE so less miles per gallon and same on all electric less miles per kwh but combined.........I've averaged 149.1 miles per gallon in my 5 years of ownership, unfortunately it doesn't give miles per kwh. One downside that hasn't been mentioned ....... less boot/trunk space than both ice and ev though not an issue to me. I've only ever plugged in at home as charging infrastructure here in the UK is still chaotic and pricing all over the place. As for battery degradation ... not noticed any so must be absolute minimal. Servicing costs has been similar to ice so far. I'm still on original tyres and brakes. My next vehicle will be an ev long range.
Where are you getting "more weight than ICE so less miles per gallon". We have had two regular Prius cars with a Traction Battery under 1 kwh that delivered 52+ mpg on average, year round. Our 2024 Prius Prime with it's 13.6 kwh battery drives us almost 100km in EV. When that's exhausted, the car furnishes over 60mpg in hybrid mode. It has not only a bigger engine (with more than double the horse-power), but the far heaver battery. But better gas milage. Oh, it does 0-60 in 6.48.
it’s a fallacy that PHEVs are less efficient on Long trips. Fuel consumption is typically no worse than a similar gas car because A. Your starting out with some electric range and B. You’re getting significant battery regeneration from normal slowing down and breaking as you drive. It’s true that if you only drive long distances and never charge your battery you may as well buy a cheaper gas car. That’s kind of a no brained. PHEVs, however , are going to save a ton of money over a gas car if you are mostly doing short commutes and charge at home. And don’t forget the $7,500 tax credit that can bring the price of a PHEV close to parity with gas only car.
Battery degradation on a PHEV will likely be accelerated compared to EVs due to the fact you're cycling the cells more often. Lithium ion lasts the longest by doing shallow cycles and by keeping it between 20-70% charged. So eventually the hybrid system will just be dead weight.
PHEV and EV are designed to cut air pollution by 15% to 25% not to replace internal combustion engine. Many people didn’t see that and blamed on our government. These people can drive ICE vehicles if they wanted to. EV is my choice and loved it for my 98% driving to work and drive around town.
Most auto manufacturers warranty their batteries, Toyota guarantees their batteries to provide no less than 70% of capacity for 8 years or 100,000 mile whichever comes first. While they only warranty their engines for 3 years or 30,000 miles. 70% 8 years or 100,000 is in fact required required of all EV, PHEV, Hybrid batteries by US law. Other companies do even better. Tesla offers 70% for 8 years or 150,000 miles. Rivian 70% for 8 years and 175,000 miles. Kia/ Hyundai have a 70% 10 year 100,000 mile warranty one of the best in the industry. Consider that it can easily cost $10,000 to replace an engine in a gas car and that PHEVs electric drive is significantly less prone to failure and takes much of the burden off the gas engine. Factor in the gas savings with many PHEVs rated at 50 mpg. The gas savings alone over 8 years and you could pay for a new battery several times over, that is if you wanted to keep the car beyond the 8 years or 100,000 miles.
I have rav4 prime (phev) for 3 years now and the best decision I have ever made. I would consider only Tesla performance for second car for mid life crisis 😂
Hmm well mate these are not for me any more than a full-blown EV simply because you have the issues with EV's associated with maintenance, repair, battery degradation, and higher tyre wear. Does make any sense whatsoever to me? Then you have the cost os the car itself and the fuel and electrical power to charge that battery.
I've been driving Chevy Volts for years. For us, there's no down side! My wife's 2013 still has great range. My 2019 goes 50 miles before starting the ICE. Why are you such a Debbie Downer? Oil company checks?
This video sounds a bit like fear-mongering and exaggerating negative aspects. I have been driving PHEVs for years and they perfectly serve my lifestyle. They have their ups and downs, but so do ICE cars. I do see extra weight and drivetrain complexity a shortfall, however so far the benefits outweigh them.
All points are valid, but if you did zero research before you bought, you deserve what you get. The one I bought has a 10 year warranty on the battery. Gets about 80 km on battery, I live in a northern climate so this drops to about 60 in the winter. I live 7 km to town and 90 to city so I use all 3 motors within the course of a month. The car also has an extended warranty, so I'm not concerned about the drive train or ICE. I'm happy with mine (2023) and my kids are happy with theirs (2018). I plug in on standard hydro access it takes 12 hours to get my 80 km back, but I'm retired and don't care. My total range is well over 700 km. Do your research, and buy accordingly.
Just need to be aware that EV can starts it's own fire, from inside the battery. Water will not be able to extinguish it. Never park your EV in your garage unless you want to lose your house to fire anytime.
If you did your research and still bought a polluting, dangerous clunker, then you deserve the consequences even more than somebody who was stupid enough to buy something he/she didn't know about.
As far as long term reliability and expense, especially after 10 years, hybrids are better than EVs but can’t compete with ICE cars. If you’re 70 and probably won’t outlive your car, then it doesn’t matter.
That's standard hybrids. Plug in are more costly. I was considering a Hyundai Elantra Blue trim hybrid (for the technology my wife likes) but the salesman was a Richard with crazy price and wouldn't negotiate so I bought a Sonata SEL non hybrid with convenience package elsewhere for $2k less. It gets good fuel mileage if you keep your foot out of it 30+ in town and up to 47 on the highway so far. I can't recommend it if you are a driver who monitors what your car is doing as it is drive by wire and the computer decides what gear to be in and is generally unresponsive to the paddle shifter if you want it to upshift for better economy, it will downshift immediately with the paddle, you just have very little input as far as upshifting. It maintains speed even after you take your foot off the accelerator for about 10 seconds...even when you aren't using cruise control. I will buy old cars and have them completely restored than buy another drive by wire car.
@@robertkubrick3738 But like any EV or hybrid, plug in or no plug in, depreciation is much higher. You end up with a car that’s almost worthless after 10 years, and for good reason. Just look up resale prices. It’s been that way ever since the Prius first came out. Most of these cars with batteries end up in the shredder for good reason. You cant get around that fact. For those young and wealthy, they dont care about buying a new car every 7 years with a virtually worthless trade in. Good for them. Not exactly “environmental” but ok. Im on retirement income, I am concerned about long term reliability and value.
@@mikemccormick8115 Toyota has some pretty good 11 year warranty on their hybrids battery and drive train. The Non Plug In battery might add 200lbs to the car and the small battery at least at the present time is about $2k which isn't that bad compared to many ICE repairs, such as a transmission rebuilt. I'm not in favor of battery cars or Hybrids, I just found these things out doing research, then I bought an ICE car.
@@mikemccormick8115 It's tough to name any 2024 model car that will retain significant value after 10 years, lack of quality is even starting to demolish the luxury vehicles and has even taken hold of the semi-exotics like Porsche, upper end audi and Mercedes and BMW. At least in the USA and Europe. I found new quality cars in the Philippines (my wife is from there), Toyota Hilux, Fortuner and Innova, I happen to have bought all three. They will easily last 20 years if not wrecked. You can buy a really nice reliable turbo diesel car there for less than $25k USD because they don't have all the spy/nanny sh!t on them that we are forced to pay for in the US. Which also means it can't go wrong since it isn't installed. Father in law wrecked the 2018 Innova I first bought, fell asleep and drove into a huge tree, airbag and seat restraints worked as you would expect on a Toyota and the forex exchange rate was good so I just bought a new one to replace it. Fixing the old one and handing it off to sister in law who just drives in the city but has 3 kids. I would have scrapped it. The new one was under $24k. They get great fuel mileage, my wife actually got 47mpg out of the Hilux truck on a 250 mile drive, but she drives very conservatively. It's not that they can't make cars that would retain their value.
Don't want a back up camera, "emergency braking"🙄 ,navigation or "Bluetooth connectivity" 😝 Unfortunately, might have to deal with power windows and power locks 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Just keep drilling for oil and life will be just "DUCKY". (Yea, right) I might think the petroleum industry was somehow responsible for this helpful video.
I've got one and like it very much. I can plug in or charge from the engine. The battery gives it more acceleration, I.e 2.25 ton suv 0-60 just over 5 seconds With a 2.5 straight 4 petrol engine. It's nice have the choice of ev only or combination of the 2 working together unless charging from engine then engine power only and that's just a button to turn on or off charging.
My ev is 600 pounds more than the same car gas powered. Not much for extra weight. He'll my truck is 6000 pounds and runs on 10 ply tires. Hmmmm weight issue???
