The Day Hololive Almost Died 

What if this was their plan all along!!

That's just how money works. PR wise they were OK with it but letting an organization profit from their product like that conveys the message of "everyone can do it." And if everyone can do it, you cannot complain in court. This applies to indies too but suing an individual and suing internationally is a whole can of worms that companies just do not want to open, it's just not worth it.

They didn't take out all videos they took out 2, and it was technically reasonable from their perspective. (I know there's 0 reason to stop people from seeing your game but Japanese companies are auper dumb and think in 20th century logic.) Later cover actually asked them officially the permit to play the games and they were happy to oblige to a super popular company compared to a little one it was in 2019-2020

@@orange._.persik4006 then mio fan won a capcom cup.

Too bad japan has cancer fair use/copyright laws

Music companies are assholes like that

​@@UnownDepthThe worst part? They abused tf out of RU-vid's ©️ system. Which is horse crap.

some are better than others.@@UnownDepth

It's an uphill battle to force any changes in the world's old and broken copyright laws. A lot of businesses are benefitting from them.

​@@cucumbermainline Not only that But the biggest fear of changing the rules It makes it worse and the end result would become more predatory

Oh man I checked out /vt/ recently and really saw the dark spot in the Vtuber fanbase. So glad I stopped going on 4chan, what fucking freaks man

Imagine still going on 4chan 😂. I checked out the /vt/ board after not going on that site for yeaaars, and the shit I saw there disgusted me lol. It’s definitely a stain on the Vtuber community lol. I hope no Vtubers go on that board and see the gross shit people post and say about them lol. The Biboo thread I saw was just…. ew. Nothing but schizo posting and borderline CP

Imagine still going on 4chan. I recently checked out the /vt/ board and saw a Biboo thread. That entire thread was just… ew. Pretty much everyone was just talking about her “kiddie holes” 🤮. I hope vtubers never go on that board and see the gross shit y’all post about them lol

Not ancient enough. No 5chan screenshots in the video. It was used way before /jp/ in 4chan was even created.

The 6 Chinese hologirls basically dropping off the face of the earth hurts still tbh Only 2 I really say anything of were the two that spoke fluent English Aria and cylvia I think we're there names? It's been so long but they had potentially One was super competitive and was in legit tournaments and the other was starting to build a RU-vid channel to get a western audience...probably hoping to survive the incoming storm tbh

I'd rather not have those wolf warriors within Hololive. Artia was one of the leading forces among the Antis.

Only 2 of the CN girls were not involved with the drama. As they were actually from Taiwan. Yogiri and Spade Echo I believe? Which were also bullied by the rest of the CN talents and management due to being Taiwanese. Artia being the main instigator for a lot of it.

Well, they closed Hololive China cause turned out some of them and their fans were among the Harrasment campaign against Coco Of course Coco being closer to a A-Chan is one of the reasons Hololive circled the Wagons around Coco Hololive EN was pitched by CoCo with her ending up an Orbiter of the EN Branch as still CoCo thus Omega? Model going unused

plus, Cover corp supports clippers and indie fangames. with policy.

I did enjoy that. Its like "their is no ill will, just ask us for permission next time" kinda thing. It did help out cover alot. More than half if not mostly all the videos that the hololive girls had on their channels didn't have perms so this helped them understand that having perms in a country where perms are important as there is no fair use law to protect them its better to just ask and get them the right way. Now its an always used system so there is no legal issues or strikes unless an error is made somehow. But you are correct, collabing with Mio was a show of good faith and also getting Mio's name more out there for capcom fans and gamers, while also getting abit of capcom publicity to Hololive fans. Like what Korone does with Sega and her collabs with them and sonic or even her and capcom too lol.

That would just be cruel, forcing her to play nice with the company that just tried to axe her channel.

You'll never know when your OSHI will graduate so now we need to archive their sh-+ before it's too late

Same

A few people were being called crazy by archiving Mel years or months before February 2024. Suddenly they were actually seen as prophets.

Mel was too p̶o̶n̶ pure for this world 😭

​@@user-xx7kl7sr6i tbf cover also gave them a month to archive shit

Yeah I was looking at the percentages thinking 10 percent ain't so bad but how come so many of AZki vods were taken down? She hardly streamed gaming content at that time.After DN said the green was what remained it made much more sense

AZKi, Moona, Iofi, and Risu being the only real survivors of the Holopurge looking at over the endless amounts of lifeless Holo member bodies as Capcom laughs in the distance like a supervillain who just achieved their goals:

that 4% for ayame is crazy

sony have own vtuber and one of share holder of anycolor

Sony deserves what's coming for them then.

​@@mmyr8ado.360by recent news of Helldivers 2?

Because Sony is bone and tendon with Nijisanji.

​@@neverheard446oh yes Shareholder, the highest Caste in bussiness entertainment

In the sun

I dont get it. What happened?

​@@krisostomoyabarrera2255Nijisanji revelations.

And then Niji fans did something even worse a month or two later, sending shit to Mano Aloe's home address and threatening her family

Yes, to this day I always block every video about Nijisanji because of their toxicity (especially their fans) and also Chinese vtubers too.

And now Niji is taking the hit when Holo is chill right now, man how life could turn

Especially since Subaru when she was just staring out was kind of a mess (I think she's the only Holo girl who was an actual nobody prior to Holo.)

All of it? Wtf

​@@vincenttorrijos9680If I remember correctly, wasn't Haachama also a nobody, she was still in highschool when she started? The same can be said for Sora, but she's an exception.

@@Mutualititve hachaama was in high school yes but I don't know if she was a nobody, she could have just been young. Sora on the other hand, by definition, was a nobody but her role as basically the progenitor does make her an exception

@@vincenttorrijos9680 Subaru is actually such an inspirational story. If I recall correctly, her family's *house burned down* some time before her audition. They were in dire financial straits and Subaru tried out for hololive out of desperation. She was not a content creator, a singer, an idol, she was not even a gamer or an otaku to any particular extent. *And* she somehow misread the CEO's name as YAGOO. There's never been a job interview where the odds were so heavily stacked against the interviewee. And yet the recruitment team saw something special in her, and now she's among the elite vtubers of the world. And Motoaki Tanigo is forever immortalized as YAGOO. There's something special about hololive that makes it more than just a corpo. It's a place where *miracles* can happen. Subaru? The hiring of Suisei *as* Suisei, letting her keep her indie identity? Miko going from failure and despair to international stardom by saying the word that usually *ruins* careers? The smashing success of holoEN against all odds despite everyone predicting it would flop horribly, and the meteoric rise of Gura to become *the* #1 vtuber in the world? The salvation of a rejected pair of twins? Hell, going from the original "13 Knights" to millions of fans worldwide is a miracle in and of its own. Dreams can come true in hololive. I know it's probably unrealistic, but I hope they never lose that spark of magic

they still ask for perms even now

They still ask for perms. They just don't need their talents themself having to do that tedious work. Also they only need to asked for the permission once and it applied to the entire company

bruh these people don't know how to read XD

Too large to NOT ask permission guys. Meaning the company has gotten so big that they now HAVE TO ask permission to things that previously got a pass.​@@Vergil.bin.Sparda

But copystrike a video after 2 years being public is still pointless.

The China drama is weird, because it seems to be targeting Coco which were a popular streamer in those days. I'm not surprised if there's some shady hand behind those drama to eliminate competition in China.

​@@signumxmagnumThe best part? Cover and Coco aka Kson is still on good terms. Evidence has shown via actions and it shows they have a bond together despite the drama.

​@@signumxmagnumThe thing is, Chinese' deep hatred towards Hololive (and Japanese media) was already rooted for a long time ago and the Taiwan incident happened to be the trigger to spark a bigger flame. The tragedy actually started from Hachama reading google analytical statistics on her worldwide viewership and mentioned Taiwan as a major part of it. The mainland Chinese fans were offended when Taiwan was mentioned and bombarded her account. Coco, knew about the issue and decided to do the same but highlight the Taiwan part louder which deviated the antis' attention towards her instead (kinda like tanking). And the rest is history.

@@signumxmagnum Coco was also hated by the Chinese even back when she was still Kson, before becoming Coco. Heck even she returned to the Kson Persona, her haters are still around.

​@@danielhakim9485Not to mention the huge plot twist where one of the HoloCN members was revealed to be one of the ringleaders of the harassment campaign

This is one of the reasons WHY Hololive is so strict with perms.

2020 was the golden age, It's when myth debuted and they skyrocketed to the most popular vtuber company, sure there was the whole CN thing but ultimately Coco would have left anyway

As a Singaporean Chinese, it’s also the defining moment that made me dislike irrational mainland Chinese. I was quite chill with them, but when the drama kicked off I was like, nah, I’m going to oppose them for the rest of my life.

@@forcexjr1566Honestly they got some cool stuff but they can be so stiff that it actually borders on parody. If anything, we understand, there's a lot of reasons why things came to be like that. It's not just something that just happens because, but there's a real historical precedent which explains why it happens, and why it will continue to happen.

@@user-xx7kl7sr6i No it has nothing to do with history. It's just the CCP being greedy like any other communist/socialist government wanting full control of things. They will never accept Taiwan independence and will fight back hard to prevent the rest of the world to acknowledge and spread this notion. This has nothing to do with China hating Japan.

I remember some of Hololive ID fans on Twitter are also anti ID current government meanwhile current ID government are notorious for having close relation with Mainland China government so those HoloID who also ID government haters are now hate the Mainland China government more than ever. Based HoloID fans, fuck CCP and fuck the corrupt Indonesian goverment

From what I recall, back then it was called the Holopocalypse.

​@@theultramageThere's actually a more fitting name used already but I don't think it's appropriate for a broader audience. There's a plethora of extremely well known reasons why you don't see people commenting on it. It's not something that can be debated about either. The reasons stand tall and understandably.

let's just say back then, Hololive was still relatively small, and Western fanbase strictly existing as a niche on 4chan. And frankly, Holocaust is really appropriate term considering just how *MUCH* got deleted. This is basically lost media; something which might be acceptable for black and white films - and we got it in modern times. Subaru's WHOLE Undertale playthrough? That's just example. Or that one old ass scary flash game Korone played. There's more content which simply doesn't exist; unless someone archived it and uploaded elsewhere.

Well Nijisisters were always trying to do that.

Normalized woke culture and Chinese supremacy rule, that's what you got in that timeline. Glad that never existed

in niji's early days, sony was a big shareholder, helped niji to build good connections with other companies, the reason why they can stream all these games is because they signed many comprehensive deals with all major Japanese game companies, they got the highest streaming clearance, like no time limit for pokemon game.

​@@puhanlemontian6026 Also, remember that people called the Anycolor CEO a trust fund baby? Turns out, his uber-rich family was involved in making corporations favor Nijisanji more and Hololive less. It was rumored that one of the shareholders, Itochu, was heavily involved in this endeavor.

The Yu-Gi-Oh! thing is because Hololive closely allied with Bushiroad. Bushiroad is huge TCG distributor which handles Shadowverse, Weiss Schwarz and Cardfight Vanguard. Hololive can’t play much YGO because it is seen as betraying ally and promoting rival’s products.

​@DeltaAlternative-bk7nj if that was true holo would also be restricted from other card games like Pokémon, and they have been opening those packs forever. The simplest explanation is that Konami is still butt hurt about the stuff with their board game. No conspiracy needed, on either side.

@@LilyKazami Well with the recent Calli collab, Konami perms are now granted at the regular. Before, they were closely knit with Nijisanji due to them sharing a building. I guess the Pomu situation (where she got unceremoniously hindered from doing a collab, reason why Calli got the job) really did make Konami turn against Nijisanji.

The Pien era. Or Chilla

Capcom appears to be to prideful, and greedy.

JP gaming industry being themselves, Nintendo, Capcom, Konami, all of them are fucking retard whenever copyright is concerned.

That’s just how Corporate Japan operates and because Fair use and Copyright doesn’t exist over there.

@@vanguardtrainer924 It's actually insane to see a corpo like hololive being so open to fan content and even letting fans monetize said content to some extent. Nintendo and Capcom could *never*

@@vanguardtrainer924 It was also rumored that Riku's family pulled some strings in that situation.

Who

@@ScarleSimpMikaelOre The cult of Kurosanji fans They''ve been trying to destroy Hololive from day one.

Real?

They had a site called Nyfco. And theyre still very active

​@@Geats-IXDo they all only consists of women or are men also part of the Nijisisters?

To those who weren't there, Okayu went from zero bullet hell experience, to decisively beating one of Touhou's Extra bosses in a week. It was truly the stuff of legends.

One could say it's... a liability

allow me to complete it "don't close your eyes, so that you could see the new light rising"

@@eriknurwahab2861 allow me to complete it? That is an old phrase not a song lyric.

@@osiris7127 similar quote from Gintama in the end of Shogun Assassination arc,

Reminds me of the theme of Kuro no Kiseki/Trails through daybreak game.

I personally hate them as cc, but still respect them as normal human being

The permissions have finally been granted No one can suppress the chuubas urge to monster hunter anymore

@@Cunny_Lord Until Capcom says no again.

Anya ID gets copyright strike from Anya JP 🤣 RU-vid is crazy

Mw2 is american, unless localizer is also a japanese publisher.

@@damasake might be the localizer issue. i cant find the vid (maybe im blind). because, when miko tries the airport mission, she cant sh*ot the civs.

someone should teach them about it.

​@@TheShiningEnergy Sure. Just gotta remove any freedom of speech or elective power from the entire Japanese population aged 60 and up. Good luck.

@@TheShiningEnergy It is a waste of time, all the politicians here tries to appeal to old people that have zero understanding about tech and they themselves are such people, the mentality here is that if you're exceptional, you'll be dragged down to a mediocre level, or the nail that sticks will get hammered down, that's one of many reasons Japan is losing edge in many fields.

I know the who the Twitter artist is and I regret knowing that

Well, that and it hadn't been that long since their debut so they didn't have that many videos to remove anyway.

@@hohens7118 That too. When I saw that this happened in 2020 that dawned on me. I didn't start watching them until after all of this happened.