The "Death" of Billy the Kid - Did Pat Garrett Kill the Infamous Outlaw? Part I 

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Thank you very much!

He certainly wouldnt! Good point David.

You may appreciate the next videos in this series (parts 2 and 3) when you get to them.

Bob Bell has an interview on here. He’s been on a number of Billy documentaries. He doesn’t buy that Billy died the way Pat said he did, but believes he did in fact die that night. Talks about the deputy with Poe told people that Pat killed him like a dog. No knife to get meat. No gun. Just attack he didn’t see coming ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qxBrW_Tu44Y.htmlsi=HED0j7mKR6selTHn

Right!

Wasn't nearly as easy back then to get photos taken.

@@pickititllneverheal9016 There was a trend when outlaws were killed phots for many towns so it wouldnt be out of question to have one done

Realistically, it's more probable that Pat Garrett shot the wrong man again, his third wrong man during the Lincoln County war. This time it was a completely innocent man. He had to hide it, or himself possibly go to jail. I really don't believe it was due to his previous friendship with Billy, although it would be easy to argue that.

​@@KornPop96 Although I agree that he died by the gun of Pat Garrett. The implications are that the so called witnesses could've lied about seeing him dead So Billy could fake his own death and live a free new life.

Who said they all saw his body? It's been reported that only three people saw his body. People who are saying that everybody and his brother saw the body are just playing Billy the kid's greatest hits. Don't fall for that. Even if some of his friends did see the wrong body, they weren't going to say anything. Why should they? People need to do real research. Then use logic and common Sense. The people who keep playing Billy the kid's greatest hits, hope you're too lazy to do that.

@@KornPop96 try to think about this logically. If all of Billy the kid's friends saw a different body, why would they contradict Pat Garrett? I wouldn't have because I knew that my friend got away. At that point in time if Pat Garrett told me the moon was made out of cheese I would have said "yes boss you are correct". On the other side of the coin, Pat Garrett's friends would have covered for him.Why? Well,let's see. Maybe because he just murdered someone. The kids friends wouldn't say anything about that either. You have to understand one thing which the majority of people don't realize. The kind of people his friends we're. The majority were Mexicans who didn't have much in life. They also despised Pat Garrett. They were smart enough to keep their mouth closed or they just might be next. The only person who said Pat Garrett killed the kid, was Pat Garrett himself. Everyone else went along with him. Even his own deputies disputed that he killed the kid kid. Do the research. Check the facts. There's a lot more information if you just take the time to find it. Or just go with the people who keep playing Billy of the kids greatest hits over and over again. I for one am tired of the moldy oldies. I like the new information coming out. I'll listen to that. In case you or anyone else asks, I could care less if Brushy Bill or anyone else claims to be Billy the Kid.

@@KornPop96 okay. Here we go. His friends and his deputies were not one of the same. I believe it was deputy Poe who told Garrett that he believed Garrett shot the wrong person. Then he went along with it. Hmmmmm. Let me repeat. His friends and deputies are not one of the same. Was that really hard to understand? This is why people just don't understand what really happened that night. Is there anything else I can help you with?

@@KornPop96 RU-vid videos? Really? Dozens of people saw the body? Whose body and who said so? Which jurors inquest are you talking about? The first, the second or the third? One member of the first jury said they all signed the inquest but didn't see a body. Yeah yeah yeah, you're not going to believe that either. one person reported that the body was buried before daylight. If so, why? Why did the territorial legislators have to make a law for Garrett to get paid? Don't give me any nonsense about the governor's refusing. That's just a smokescreen for the people who don't want the legend to die. Why did the law issue arrest warrants for Billy the Kid in 1882 and 1883 if he was dead? The law didn't believe it. I really hope you're not so gullible to believe Pat Garrett"s version of how he killed the kid. Billy the Kid walked into the bedroom in stocking feet. Stocking feet on the ground of Fort Sumner. You do know what the grounds were made of. It was reported the kid had a pistol. It was reported that he didn't have a pistol. The reported pistol wasn't the kind that Billy the Kid preferred. Getting back to the stocking feet that Garrett said. Billy the Kid knew Garrett was in town. Do you really think he would go running around with no boots on if he had to make a running escape?. Of all the times he had to make an escape in the past, how many were with no boots on? If you want to continue to listen to The moldy oldies about Billy the Kid, go ahead. I'll listen to the recent information that's come out. Read Steve Sederwalls book " The Dirty on Billy the Kid". He and other people looked into a lot of Billy the kid's life from an investigation angle. He was a detective who did crime scene investigations. He tells why the story of Billy the Kid being killed that night isn't true. If you don't believe him, don't come whining to me. Tell him. Also, everything you wrote has been debunked. You can believe it or not. That's totally up to you.

Lol

I think we may be thinking of the same thing! :-)

​@@aliasbillythekidNo MAYBE about it.

Another great point!

By the next morning if what Brushy said was true, Garrett knew the Kid had left town and likely knew he was going to Old Mexico as he had talked about. Leaving town and changing names was very common in these times. We call what Garrett wrote a "book" but it was a little pamphlet available by mail order. Garrett didnt have a great reputation to defend. He wasnt sheriff long. Thee only reputation he had came from getting the Kid. We see people lie about all komds of things to this day. People even falsely claim to be a different race to get the benefits. A lot of high profile politicians have been busted doing this. Why do they risk their reputation? Because they want the benefits and dont think they will ever get caught. Also, remember if he shot an innocent man he had to lie or face the consequences. The book was to defend his actions and also try to profit from his new fame.

As far as I know they were never accounted for. Brushy said Frank Lobato brought his horse in the middle of the night and he left town on it.

Billy dies that night of July 14th. If this imposter Roberts, who claimed to be him, then his family members are lying about his claims and their family bible shows he would have been two years old in 1881. Also, all those folks of Ft. Sumner who knew BTK are lying about it being him when they removed his body to the carpenter shop, bathed his body, dressed him, and held his funeral. One big ass secret to keep without anyone saying a single word. None of this crap with Roberts didn’t come about until the mid 20th century. BTK is buried in Fort Sumner and has always been there since 1881.

That's true. They have never been accounted for , even today

Why is brushy an imposter ? Because your saying he was 2 years old the night of the shooting ? Why dont you properly research brushy bill He was not 2 years old he was around the same age as billy sorry but the Garrett story dont wash anymore to anyone with half a brain cell , to many holes in it im afraid , wether brushy was billy or not garrett didnt kill billy that night To much evidence is coming out now for you biased narrative pushers to ignore !!

Absolutely! Please email me at daniel@billythekidanautobiography.com. thanks!

@@aliasbillythekid ok

Thank ypu!

Sadly it was all there in plain sight all along and no one apparently made the effort to do primary research and go find it. Thats what motivated me in the first place. Everyone was repeating the same talking points but not doing the research. My goal was not to solve it but to get people to look at the facts and think for themselves. In that regard I am very happy about the outcome. Also, to date the critics have still yet to prove their case. It has actually gotten far far weaker. The evidence is all in favor of Brushy Bill and the only thing Garrett has on his side is "because we said so." Thank you for your comment.

@@aliasbillythekid I was absolutely intrigued by the book. To be honest, I’d never heard of Brushy Bill until I rewatched Young Guns 2, which I haven’t seen since the early 90s. That’s when I was reminded of the story and I eventually ended up reading your book. Until I read your book, I just brushed of Brushy as a fraud, like many others who made the claim. But your research and how it all fits, it’s absolutely brilliant. For me, the only thing against Brushy, is that he associated himself with a man that is widely considered to be a fraud. Unfortunately for Brushy, that particular person also claimed to be a famous outlaw

@@gunthermommen4780 Great movie! Emilio helped me with my documentary "Billy the Kid The Silver City Photo"

Brushy Bill's ears were completely different.

@@WillMGlynn Are you referring to his earlobes?

I will be sharing vintage audio recordings soon. Hold tight please.

@@aliasbillythekid watch it that's Penelope Jones .

Thank you. The answers are yes and yes but Ive never personally used that as slam dunk 'proof". Ive mentioned it maybe a couple times. I think they are interesting data points that support a whole lot of other similar data points. The warrant, if real (and I have no reason to believe its not) may be pretty strong but there were several people over the years called Billy the Kid. This one being close in date and for San Miguel county I found interesting.

There were lots of outlaws going by the name Billy the Kid? That's funny. You asked if he lived why didn't he pop up? Seriously? Here's one. After Pat Garrett killed someone on July 14,why did he say the body stayed in Pete Maxwell's room all night when others including his deputy said it was moved to a carpenter's bench?Both can't be right. Which one was it? If Garrett lied about that, well he'd lie about anything.

There are a few versions. The most prominent is that he went to get some beef that was hanging on the porch and then when he saw the deputies he backed into the room where Maxwell was. I address this more in parts 2 and 3.

I have to amend my last post. I still stand by my stance that someone died and there existence ended thay fateful night. I was listening to another pod cast about this event and it seams Billy Barlow was the same thing we use to this day when we dont know who someone is we use John Doe. It just means we don't know. So they don't know who was killed in Billy's place that night. That tells me why there has been no research done on the man who was killed and passed off as Billy. You would have to be a insider to get inside info and judging from the way things work even today be careful I don't think that part of the story is to come to light. It reminds me of the Kenndy killing in Dallas the truth will not set you free it will get you killed. Some details must never come to light. The rabit hole is deeper than you think.

Good point

See if it can be done , is there already DNA available from brushy