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It was one of the MOST PAINFUL ROYAL DEATHS in British history, but what killed Queen Caroline, who was the wife of George II and how did her husband ensure that she had perhaps the most romantic royal burial in English history? In this week’s video from History Calling on Hanoverian history, we find out.
Who was Queen Caroline? Born in 1683 as Princess Wilhelmina Charlotte Caroline of Brandenburg-Ansbach, in 1705 she married the future George II, who would become King of Britain and Ireland and Elector of Hanover in 1727. Together they had eight children. The death of Queen Caroline occurred on 20 November 1737 and she’s one of the many royal consorts who’s buried in Westminster Abbey. Far from dying peacefully in her sleep though, she only expired after a long and incredibly painful illness brought on by a hernia which had emerged after her final living child was born but which she had kept secret. Her condition was exacerbated by some truly awful medical treatments, including an operation performed while she was awake which seems to have ruptured her intestines and would nowadays be considered torture and even murder. It led to her excrement pouring out of her body through the wound and was a hideous way to die. Despite this though, it may surprise you to hear that she was laughing during the procedure thanks to the ineptitude of her doctors.
Her distraught husband had a new vault built under the chapel of Henry VII in Westminster Abbey and a large marble sarcophagus made so that when the time came his coffin could be set into it next to his Queen’s. He then did something even more unusual; he ordered that the side of Caroline’s coffin be removed once she was in place so that we he died and was interred next to her, the same could be done to his, thus allowing their bones and eventually dust to mingle for eternity. When George II died in 1760, twenty-three years after his consort, that is exactly what happened and reports from the following century spoke of the coffin lids propped up next to the grave.
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@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Any thoughts on Caroline’s death and burial? Let me know below and remember you can see my Patreon at www.patreon.com/historycalling and my Amazon storefront at www.amazon.com/shop/historycalling
@gidge9846
@gidge9846 Год назад
Didn't she say something like "My God, that doesn't prevent it" when her husband said he'd only take mistresses?
@-newuser-707
@-newuser-707 Год назад
Do a special _Memoirs of the Secret Services of John Macky, Esq_ , collection. That would be of great interest and garner many many hits.
@kitwhite2640
@kitwhite2640 11 месяцев назад
giventhe constipation comment and the fact she kept throwing everything up. It sounds like she had a bowel obstruction likely caused by the hernia pinching her bowels from where it came came thru the abdominal wall.
@PrincessQ-fj9ly
@PrincessQ-fj9ly 11 месяцев назад
She was incredibly brave to face her brutal and tragic end, and even though I disapprove of George II's affairs and the fact that he was rather bothersome during the near two weeks leading to Queen Caroline's death, I am glad that they had a decent marriage for their time, certainly better than the marriage of George's father, that's for sure. And the burial was indeed romantic and sweet. 💖 I can't help but feel sorry for the poor man who had to carry out the late George II's will though. 😅
@PrincessQ-fj9ly
@PrincessQ-fj9ly 11 месяцев назад
​@@gidge9846 I don't know. I think she said "Oh, Mon Dieu." I could be wrong though.
@simon112
@simon112 Год назад
I have to to say what they put that lady through day after day was horrendous,she was a remarkable woman and still found time to laugh at the Dr who caught his wig on fire, thank you as always HC 👍
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. You wouldn't treat a dog the way they treated her and yet she was supposedly getting the best medical assistance available. Just shows why it was no joke to be ill or injured prior to the 20th century.
@simon112
@simon112 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling totaly agree HC not a good thing to be ill In those times.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Год назад
@@HistoryCallingI’m afraid, with no Claire Fraser to stir up the deal, Caroline was doomed :(
@janetkincade1735
@janetkincade1735 9 месяцев назад
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@Rat_Queen86
@Rat_Queen86 Год назад
I…have insane respect for her. Laughing mid surgery at a guy setting his wig in fire? That’s pretty boss actually!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, she was awesome. I couldn't quite believe that either.
@AllTheHappySquirrels
@AllTheHappySquirrels Год назад
I could never - but I want that badassery for myself
@robertalpy
@robertalpy Год назад
That Queen Caroline had the fortitude and good humor to laugh during a surgery without anesthetic after her doctors bleeding her for days is amazing.
@elisabethhopson5639
@elisabethhopson5639 Год назад
This was pretty gruesome. Poor Caroline! Botched surgery on a massive scale, day after day and she even wanted to laugh.And then her coffin was interfered with on George's instructions. Dear me, what a carry on. I hope she is at perfect rest now and will be forever. 🌠
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, hopefully she is. At least (to the best of my knowledge) she hasn't been disturbed since George was buried. That's a lot more postmortem respect than many royals get.
@stillhere1425
@stillhere1425 8 месяцев назад
She had all those children without painkillers. She was tough.
@Sorchia56
@Sorchia56 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant presentation of the poor dear, Queen Caroline’s, care and death. My great great grandfathers were childhood friends with King George II and they remained friends up until death. We have a family library filled with accounts of daily life from the 1600’s to now. From what I read, Caroline had a wicked sense of humour and was a very good person.
@coggieskaz7115
@coggieskaz7115 Месяц назад
I would love to hear your families stories!!
@zugabdu1
@zugabdu1 Год назад
"Mortify" may have changed its meaning since the 18th century, but it is not even slightly less appropriate now than it was then to describe this situation. The worst part of this for me is that the doctors seem to have done exactly the right amount of damage to give her a painful, prolonged, and humiliating death. Had they done less, maybe she would have lived. Had they done more, she might have at least had a quicker and more merciful end. I feel awful for this poor woman.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
THANK YOU ZUGABDU FOR YOU GENEROUS DONATION to the channel. Yes, I agree. They'd have been better off doing nothing, or else killing her more cleanly than this. They really tortured her over those two weeks. No wonder she didn't want to tell them what the matter was.
@LaPinturaBella
@LaPinturaBella Год назад
I cannot imagine the pain and suffering this poor woman endured, let alone such a surgery without benefit of anything to dull the pain, much less anesthesia. Talk about a strong woman! I am in awe of her fortitude and endurance. Rest well, Sweet Caroline. You were regal up to the end.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
She was indeed :-)
@stephencarrillo5905
@stephencarrillo5905 Год назад
👏👏 That must have been a deeply disturbing dream George had that drove him to Caroline's tomb in the dark of night. A rather eerie detail of a sad tale. Great job as always, HC!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
THANK YOU STEPHEN FOR YOUR SUPERTHANKS DONATION. :-) Yeah, I'd love to know what he dreamt as well. It must have been a rough night!
@stephencarrillo5905
@stephencarrillo5905 Год назад
@@chrisbanks6659 🤣 Indeed! Lena and I need to firm up plans to travel! Wish we had access to Star Trek transporters.
@AllTheHappySquirrels
@AllTheHappySquirrels Год назад
I was shocked to see how my sister- and brother-in-law pestered our dying patriarch, but later recognized it was their way of dealing with their grief and feelings of uselessness in the face of a days-long passing. I imagine those feelings would be magnified for George, as I'm sure his kingship meant he didn't often experience a situation outside of his control and he may have had a bit of a guilty conscience for the cheating. I feel so sorry for Caroline, George, and everyone who had to witness her suffering.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, it does seem to have been a stress response in George's case to the imminent loss of someone he clearly loved very much, despite his cheating.
@teresawelter7530
@teresawelter7530 Год назад
As a nurse who has had the priviledge to care for some people in their last days, I agree completely with your assessment! I remember a son, who reportedly had a very bad relationship with his father in life, who stayed by his bedside day and night for two weeks and tried to force him to eat relentlessly...In the face of not being able to make amends, this may be the desperate attempt to prove that you love and care for them. Curiously the father passed, after two weeks of suffering, in a brief half an hour period when his son left to get some rest. Rest in peace Karl-Heinz ❤
@charlottemurray9978
@charlottemurray9978 11 месяцев назад
I doubt he was feeling guilty taking a mistress at that time was very normal for high profile men and Caroline was more than likely very much aware. A reason he would have told her he’ll not marry again simply have mistresses was him saying he loved only her, mistresses were for carnal pleasure only.
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro 29 дней назад
@@charlottemurray9978 it’s not unlikely that he experienced guilt, the customs of the time regardless, human nature does not change. It is cruel to enjoy the embraces of others when you’ve pledged yourself to someone else already, and much worse to continuously do so with her full knowledge. There are countless stories of high status women suffering the insecurities, jealousy, and grief of knowing their husbands were so blatantly unfaithful. He undoubtedly caused her at least some small amount of pain, and if he did care at all about her, it would’ve spurred some guilt whether he ever admitted it to himself or not.
@annmoore6678
@annmoore6678 Год назад
Even when the story is terribly sad and the details gruesomely repellant, you do an excellent job of narrating it in well-researched detail. Thank you! It offers a vivid close up of 18th century thinking and behavior. So bizarre to us today. We have to admire the Queen's stupendous courage and wry sense of humor, and wish we could know more about what she was like when she was in better health.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. Yes, it was a whole other mindset when it came to medicine and dying.
@gonefishing167
@gonefishing167 Год назад
Poor, poor woman. Such dignity, I’d be screaming the palace down I’m sure. Thank you, I enjoy ( if thats an appropriate word here) all your videos. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Me too. I'd be hoarse from the screaming. I'm really glad you're still enjoying the content, as I know you're one of my followers who's been with me for a good while now :-)
@leticiagarcia9025
@leticiagarcia9025 Год назад
I admire her fortitude and her sense of humor. She endured such pain and yet she told her surgeon for a minute so she can laugh because his wig caught fire. She lived longer than expected with the medicine of that time in my opinion. Thank you for the history lesson. Have a good day.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, she was one tough nut, that's for sure. 😄
@terryroots5023
@terryroots5023 Год назад
Poor woman. She must have been in agony. Having wealth and power was a two edged sword in this case. A compelling story, beautifully presented .
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Terry. Yes, ironically if she'd been poor and unable to access 18th century 'medicine', she'd probably have been better off.
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx Год назад
Wow this is brutal! the fact she even lived through the surgery is amazing to me. excellent coverage, i’m sure looking at all that info for a period of time while gathering it all must have been intense!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. It's wild that she didn't die on the table/bed, even just from the pain of it. This one wasn't too bad for research actually, as I was focusing on just a couple of weeks of history. The worst videos are generally the biography ones and historical mysteries. They take AGES to research.
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx Год назад
@@HistoryCalling that’s true, those have to be draining to an extent! an incredibly strong soul she must have been. 👑
@stephencarrillo5905
@stephencarrillo5905 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling Yes, but the results are so impressive! The Benjamin Bathurst video was awesome.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. That's one of my favourites too. I created that before I actually launched the channel though, so I was able to give it all the time it needed.
@natalieelizabeth6062
@natalieelizabeth6062 Год назад
Considering the awful death she endured after the surgery, I have to agree with you that she likely made the decision to hide her condition for court doctors! Women’s medicine and health is still today under valued and misunderstood. I can’t imagine how much worse it was back then…but hearing this video we all can imagine now! Great job as always and I throughly enjoyed this video!! Thank you!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I completely agree. If she'd told them the problem they might have killed her years earlier. You're also so right about women's problems not being taken seriously, even today. I used to know a girl who suffered from endometriosis and she was literally told it was all in her head and to see a psychiatrist! It took her about 10 years to get a diagnosis I believe, by which point a lot of her internal organs had been damaged. It's ruined her health for life, poor thing.
@davidlancaster8152
@davidlancaster8152 Год назад
Poor Caroline. What agony she must have endured. Thanks for a compelling story. Please have an amazing week.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks David. You too :-)
@jandrews6254
@jandrews6254 Год назад
My brother had his gall bladder removed but in the doing, his bowel was nicked. That resulted his very near death, only avoided by massive amounts of antibiotics, O2 on speed dial, an induced coma and intubation, extended stay in ICU. Followed by extensive physical and occupational therapies. He was left as weak as a newborn for many months. The queen had no chance of survival.
@TXRBL
@TXRBL Год назад
I had Peritonitis in the 90s and even with modern medicine it was a bit rough and ready for several days. Excruciating doesn’t begin to describe the pain. God bless the Queen’s soul.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, one of my family members had that in the 70s and thanks to a very delayed diagnosis (like two weeks) it really could have killed them. Had the appendix actually been burst, rather than perforated I think it might have. It's a terrible illness. It took them months to recover fully.
@phineas117
@phineas117 Год назад
An early recipe for "True Daffy" from 1700 lists the following ingredients: aniseed, brandy, cochineal, elecampane, fennel seed, jalap, manna, parsley seed, raisin, rhubarb, saffron, senna and spanish liquorice. it was really just a laxative. I read somewhere that when the King said "no, I will not remarry , I will take mistresses"....she retorted "that shouldn't stop you." referring to his many affairs during their marriage. poor woman, sure sounds like a bowel obsruction with gangrene. I can't imagine the agony she went through.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yikes, I haven't even heard of some of those ingredients!
@rridderbusch518
@rridderbusch518 Год назад
I had the same condition after a botched gall bladder surgery. Twenty minutes after eating I'd get the worst pain ever. (I'd given birth twice without meds and that was fine.) One bite of food would cause the pain again and I'd double over. I went to the surgeon's office and he was alarmed. He told me not to move as he "made arrangements." An hour passed, so my spouse went to ask. The surgeon had gone home! Luckily, my body healed itself over time. This happened in New York state. It is a *lie* that we have "the best healthcare in the world". Only for the wealthy.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Your surgeon went home! Oh my word. Surely that's some sort of malpractice? I'm glad to hear you got better though (no thanks to him).
@rridderbusch518
@rridderbusch518 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling My surgeon was 90 years old and legally blind, so a med student did the operation under his guidance. The student told me that I was the first *living* person he'd ever touched! Thank you for caring. ❤
@rottnk9527
@rottnk9527 11 месяцев назад
"we have 'the best healthcare system in the world'"... said no one ever about the US
@dominaevillae28
@dominaevillae28 11 месяцев назад
@rottnk9527 She didn’t say healthcare system, she said healthcare. People come to the US from around the world to get procedures or just timely care that they can’t get in their own countries.
@Laura-qn2nf
@Laura-qn2nf 5 месяцев назад
I had a similar experience. Waited 3 hours, only to hear the surgeon saying goodbye to his staff. And this was a partially out-of-pocket surgeon bc he was supposed to be the best. Also in nyc. The system is deeply flawed, and not centered in patient care, just expedient processing and drug pushing. Dogs have an easier time getting access to surgery than humans do here.
@kate_cooper
@kate_cooper Год назад
What she had wasn’t just surgery but abdominal surgery, which I’m pretty sure is the worst type. Abdominal surgery performed by people who, by our standards, were completely unqualified and didn’t even have the right equipment including any decent knock out drugs. Really not much different than falling into the hands of the cartel and having them go to town on you with the contents of the garage. I’d say poor Caroline had the worst possible outcome, not only did the surgeons botch whatever they were hoping for, they didn’t even botch it sufficiently to kill her outright, which would have been preferable. At least she can rest in peace with her husband.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I think she did get the worst of both worlds. Even a kidney-selling crime ring would probably knock you out before they operated.
@oldcollegecoed
@oldcollegecoed Год назад
Sweet Jesus! Just listening to this seemingly unending travesty was too much for me! This woman’s strength, determination, and even anger were relentless! I can’t imagine being at death’s door and refusing to forgive your son.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. It just shows how much some of the Hanoverians REALLY hated each other. No deathbed reunions for them.
@oldcollegecoed
@oldcollegecoed Год назад
@@HistoryCalling Yep…Germans can be tough!
@ElizabethEllenCarter
@ElizabethEllenCarter Год назад
"The past is a foreign country, they do things differently there." I think we're a bit too harsh on our forebears. We can't castigate them for things they didn't know. After all, how would we feel if, in 300 years' time, all our mod-cons and technology were seen as not only quaint and outmoded but also ridiculously dangerous? And frankly, I've read enough modern medical horror stories to not put doctors today on too high a pedestal. However, there's no taking away from Queen Caroline, she suffered horribly but with great forbearance - and humour too. Thank you so much for this fascinating little doco. As for the cognitive dissonance of a man who dearly loved his wife but still had mistresses, we need to remember that contraception was extraordinarily hit-and-miss. Every single pregnancy for any woman was dangerous and, in fact, was the leading cause of death in women until the early 20th century.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I've always loved that quote. Yes, you're quite right that we can't judge history by our modern standards, though I do think it took shockingly long for people to accept that things like bleeding and blistering were terrible ideas. Some people did notice of course, but they were in the minority. I certainly don't doubt that the motives of Caroline's doctors were sound.
@edithengel2284
@edithengel2284 13 дней назад
@@HistoryCalling Cupping is apparently back now, though. I'm not sure why.
@annmoore6678
@annmoore6678 Год назад
What a strange twist it is to discover that those kings thought they were doing their wives a FAVOR by having mistresses. Although, considering the dangers of childbirth, maybe many wives agreed. But how very odd to promise your Queen to have only mistresses after she dies. Perhaps that was intended to reassure her that there would be no further royal babies to trouble the succession.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, George is a bit of a laugh. I think it was probably the greatest compliment he could think of for her. No one else was good enough to be his Queen. Also I suppose if your husband was very unpleasant to have to sleep with, him having a mistress might take some of the edge off.
@MegCazalet
@MegCazalet 2 месяца назад
Eh, they both loathed their eldest son and heir, so I don’t think the succession was their main concern. IIRC, they wished they could skip him entirely. Luckily for them, I guess, he died before he could become King. Which is also how we ended up with such a famously long reign from his son, George III. Though of course it was tragically and violently disrupted and had a ignoble end. The tradition of the Hanoverian kings resenting, disliking, and distrusting their own precious firstborn sons and heirs lasted so many generations, it’s so strange. Right through Queen Victoria and Edward VII, really. And actually even George V and Edward VIII. It’s probably just a really awkward and delicate situation, having people literally waiting for you to die and gathering around your heir to gain future favors, especially when rival courts develop and become competitive. Anyway, I think mistresses in their era were seen as an almost expected thing, a duty to make the king look virile, fashionable, and powerful, and they were not treated as very serious relationships. To promise nobody else would become his Queen made it clear that she would always be the most honored woman in his life and nobody could take her role. It’s the opposite attitude that his own father had to his mother, which surely impacted him at a young age. His primary mistress Henrietta Howard really saw it as a duty too, and it also helped her financially. It was like they were going through the motions. Caroline at least had a close friendship with Walpole, and also ended up being sort of the true power behind the throne a lot of the time. She was a very well-educated, tough, sensible, admirable woman. It’s just too bad they had such a bad relationship with Frederick. They’d had *terrible* animosity with George I. Sad their family was torn by such drama.
@ellaw356
@ellaw356 Год назад
My goodness, this is so sad. What a horrible death, but what a tough lady she was.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. It would have been better obviously if she could have just gone quietly in her sleep.
@lillasebok4637
@lillasebok4637 Год назад
This poor woman bore numerous children as it was her duty. It lead to her demise. She then bore the consequences with superhuman decorum. It is remarkable how she could express her agency at her most vulnerable. Truly admirable!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, just one less child and she would have been ok it seems, as it was the final daughter that caused the initial problem. I'm sure she wouldn't have wished Princess Louise out of existence though, even if it would have saved her life.
@user-qc4zv7qu5g
@user-qc4zv7qu5g Год назад
Before the advent of anesthetics in the 1840s, surgical operations were conducted with little or no pain relief and were attended with great suffering and emotional distress. So Caroline might have been suffered terribly in that time. As for George that ordered it Caroline's coffin to be removed, I remembered Wuthering Heights, when Hearthcliff removed from earth Catherine's coffin and opened it. Thanks for another brilliant video!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
There was a good Ted-Ed talk about that very recently actually. I haven't read Wuthering Heights I'm afraid. Got 1 chapter in and just couldn't take it any more. Sorry Bronte lovers. I like Jane Eyre if that helps :-)
@katjack2780
@katjack2780 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling Emily is probably more of an acquired taste. It's easier for most people to enter Jane Eyre's world. The primitive world of Heathcliff can be unsettling.
@traczebabe
@traczebabe Год назад
It’s easy to see why being selfish is not a good thing. That poor woman had so much patience. As always a wonderful job done with your videos. ❤
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. Yes, it's a wonder she didn't tell them all where to go, especially when they were poking around her abdomen.
@LilyGrace95
@LilyGrace95 11 месяцев назад
"cheated on" is a VERY strong word in this context... High society marriages weren't love affairs, they were pacts. Pacts for power, for position, for peace... It very, very rarely involved love, ESPECIALLY among royalty. Having a husband/wife was no different than signing a treaty and hiring a surrogate all in one. King George saying he'd never take another wife was a true sign of devotion to Caroline. It was honouring her, and showing her how much he valued her as his queen. He valued her more than he valued a new alliance, or more power, or more wealth. It meant a lot back then to say something like that.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 10 месяцев назад
Except George and Caroline’s marriage WAS a love match as well as a political alliance. George specifically chose her as a bride himself because he fell in love with her, and he absolutely was cheating on her. Their marriage was primarily a love match, George was given a list of acceptable brides and told to visit them and pick the one he wanted
@tessat338
@tessat338 Год назад
Mint water or mint tea will break up painful intestinal gas bubbles and so relieve gas pain, pressure and bloating. It will also help to ease nausea. If very painful gas had been the source of the queen's illness, this would have helped to relieve it and quickly. As that wasn't the problem, mint water wouldn't make things much worse. We use it at home to this day. Mint tea is the first line of defense against tummy aches and often takes care of the problem.
@jldrake3424
@jldrake3424 Год назад
Thank you for another great video.
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 10 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@Laura-qn2nf
@Laura-qn2nf 5 месяцев назад
It’s terrifying that something as simple as a bowel hernia wasn’t recognizable 200 years after Renaissance scientists like Leonardo thought to study anatomy. Modern medicine, with all of its flaws, is a miracle of the combined brilliance of generations.
@dianelipson5420
@dianelipson5420 11 месяцев назад
Just love your hard work. So enjoyed watching this.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much :-)
@sandrapomerantz5422
@sandrapomerantz5422 Год назад
thank you for your time and effort. this is great !
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
You're very welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@Shawnsatisfiedwife
@Shawnsatisfiedwife 9 месяцев назад
I think its beautiful how unafraid of death they were back then.
@maryrichardson6029
@maryrichardson6029 Год назад
Very interesting Thank you
@tonyk1584
@tonyk1584 Год назад
"He had many mistresses but he loved his wife dearly" "After you die, my love, I will not remarry as you suggest, instead I will only take a mistress" ....... It's good to be king!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yup, I don't think many other people could get away with that kind of behaviour. Caroline really had to be patient with him.
@nansi113
@nansi113 Год назад
She was probably grateful that he was distracted and gave her a moments peace. 😂 It’s not like they married for love, it was arranged.
@jandrews6254
@jandrews6254 Год назад
He may have spared her several more pregnancies by spreading himself around
@garnwalkerstables
@garnwalkerstables 11 месяцев назад
It was common of the times AND sex was not pleasant for women and most wives hated it. Mistresses were a welcome blessing of the time.
@edithengel2284
@edithengel2284 13 дней назад
@@nansi113 His father wished him to marry, as far as possible given the limitations of his class, for love. He went incognito to her court and fell in love with her. What her feelings were for him, I don't know. But he did love her, and even nursed her through smallpox, which he caught from her.
@brianmcguire500
@brianmcguire500 11 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 11 месяцев назад
OH MY GOODNESS! THANK YOU BRIAN for such an incredible donation to the channel. That is really exceptionally kind of you. 😀
@nathanfisher1826
@nathanfisher1826 Год назад
Thank you! Very good!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Nathan. :-)
@arenzefischer8090
@arenzefischer8090 Год назад
She sounds like a really cool, witty lady.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I think she was, yes.
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 Год назад
I adore your channel!!! Absolutely THE BEST!!!❤❤
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Holly :-)
@kellygamage770
@kellygamage770 11 месяцев назад
My sister got an obstructed bowel from a hernia. She was in pain on Saturday and had an operation (under anesthetic) on Monday. Thank heavens for modern medicine!
@johnslaughter5475
@johnslaughter5475 Год назад
Thank you for such a good telling of this tragedy. Thank the Lord that medicine has come a long way since then. How many must have suffered similar tortures as doctors learned how to help people.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. You really wouldn't look at historical medicine until the late 19th century at the absolute earliest. Up until then it was mostly just useless at best and torture at worst.
@PrincessQ-fj9ly
@PrincessQ-fj9ly 11 месяцев назад
Poor Queen Caroline. She was incredibly brave to face her brutal and tragic end, and even though I disapprove of George II's affairs and the fact that he was rather bothersome during the near two weeks leading to Queen Caroline's death, I am glad that they had a decent marriage for their time, certainly better than the marriage of George's father, that's for sure. And the burial was indeed romantic and sweet. 💖 I can't help but feel sorry for the poor man who had to carry out the late George II's will though. 😅
@Jo_Lori
@Jo_Lori Год назад
Very interesting. Thank you.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Jo :-)
@philip2595
@philip2595 Год назад
What a sad tale. People sometimes suffered so much at the hands of medicos at that time, but she retained the humour and spirit to laugh at the doctors wig catching fire; whilst undergoing surgery without anaesthetic. Quite a woman!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I think she secured her place in history as a badass for her laughter about the fire. :-)
@judithmarrero2977
@judithmarrero2977 Год назад
Very Interesting Video. TY
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Judith. Glad you enjoyed it :-)
@persephone767
@persephone767 11 месяцев назад
Wow. Having Crohn's Disease and having had a couple resection surgeries myself, I feel for her on a deep level. It may have been the hernia that was causing issues, but it would have to be really kinked. She may have had a blockage elsewhere. I wish I could time travel, because I have lots of diagnostic questions to ask her. She sounds very much like my grandma - laughing at the doctor catching his wig on fire during surgery, and having already accepted her fate, just letting them chop her up some more, because why not? Like, I'm already dying in agony, maybe you'll speed things up the next time you cut into me. That poor woman.
@annemurphy9339
@annemurphy9339 8 месяцев назад
It really does sound like her bowel may have had a collapse from the symptoms.
@donnicholas7552
@donnicholas7552 Год назад
What a strong woman to have to endure that torture and still finding humor when the doctor's wig caught fire.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. She was no snowflake, that's for sure. She must have had steel in her.
@helenvick522
@helenvick522 Год назад
Such a sad story. Thanks.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks for listening and commenting :-)
@beastieber5028
@beastieber5028 Год назад
Yes I did enjoy your video history calling from
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, she was quite a woman indeed.
@beastieber5028
@beastieber5028 Год назад
Thanks you history calling from Bea
@francesshea6633
@francesshea6633 9 месяцев назад
Much respect to her. God bless.
@sueamos3860
@sueamos3860 11 месяцев назад
How awful the pain must have been terrible,Rest in peace poor lady
@karynsuepohlmeier2109
@karynsuepohlmeier2109 Год назад
This poor woman had to have been in extreme pain. I can't imagine what she went through. 😢
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Me neither. Thank goodness for modern painkillers, anaesthesia and surgery.
@ceceehawkins9813
@ceceehawkins9813 8 месяцев назад
Very well done. Love your videos. She sounded like an amazing woman with good humor.
@katjack2780
@katjack2780 Год назад
Charles II is another monarch who could be said to have been tortured to death by his doctors. His ordeal lasted about five days and he had the ironic wit to "apologize" to his doctors for being "an unconscionable time dying." There's a fascinating video from History Xtra still up on RU-vid with Alice Roberts conducting an "autopsy" on Charles II. There's also another one on Elizabeth I.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I've seen the Elizabeth one. Poor Charles :-(
@LadyBeyondTheWall
@LadyBeyondTheWall 8 месяцев назад
This is late so it may not be answered, but I was very interested in the videos mentioned regarding Charles II and Elizabeth I on History Xtra and for the life of me can't find them on that channel? I tried just looking up Alice Roberts w/ Charles II and can't find anything. Would you happen to remember the title of either one of those videos? :)
@pennyspencer450
@pennyspencer450 10 месяцев назад
Perhaps George's dream was that she was not actually dead? That would make him rush to observe the coffin a good while, making sure he heard no noises to indicate life?
@Kaydee224
@Kaydee224 Год назад
Caroline was a brave woman. This was a very interesting story, I’ll have to look up more info on her. Thank you🇨🇦
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
She was. I'm just so sorry for her that her death had to be so long drawn out and awful.
@babydollchaosable
@babydollchaosable Год назад
Will you please do a video on Margaret Pole’s life? They did a number on that poor girl.
@charliekezza
@charliekezza 11 месяцев назад
Even into the 1900's they were still doing fully awake surgery. My great uncle had part of his lung removed while leaning over a table and the doctor was on the phone from a surgeon in Sydney.
@mindymorgan8479
@mindymorgan8479 Год назад
Super great video! Yes the ignorance of the doctors was just horrible. Not that they had schooling that told them how to treat a hernia. And her suffering was horrible. They could have even just sewn the intestine to the skin and put a bag there to collect the stool. But instead left both loops inside and let them drain there. But her fortitude was immeasurable. She kept letting them just to try and live.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Mindy. Yes, it wasn't a great era to get sick in :-(
@trojanette8345
@trojanette8345 11 месяцев назад
Queen Caroline's bust is one of the more nicer ones I've seen.
@bevinboulder5039
@bevinboulder5039 Год назад
The poor woman! I can't imagine the agony she went through.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
It is unbelievable actually that the pain didn't make her have a heart attack. What they did to her (cutting her open while she was still alive and awake) was used as a torture and execution technique in earlier centuries.
@bevinboulder5039
@bevinboulder5039 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling Or that shock didn't set in and kill her quickly. She needed Claire Fraser. 😘
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
It's so funny you say that. I'm literally rewatching Outlander at the moment. I'm just getting to the end of season 2.
@bevinboulder5039
@bevinboulder5039 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling You know that S. 7 just started airing a week ago? Episode 2 is tonight. Well, here in the US.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I don't have Starz and so haven't even seen season 6 :-( I'm re-watching my DVDs.
@A_Borden_History
@A_Borden_History 10 месяцев назад
“I’ll only have mistresses” I wouldn’t know to laugh or cry
@creatingkismet2075
@creatingkismet2075 11 месяцев назад
What an amazing, stoic woman to have had the physical and mental strength to endure the treatment from those doctors! Astounding. In those times, very often, the cure was worse than the disease. And how typically male to believe that he is complimenting his wife by telling her he won't remarry but will instead sleep with whomever crosses his path. LOL. However, he did plan a very romantic eternity for the 2 of them. Thank you for bringing these details to us in such a wonderful way. Kind Regards, Cherie
@claudiatodd2938
@claudiatodd2938 Год назад
Where are u from? Love your accent!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. I'm from Northern Ireland :-)
@lucyh4355
@lucyh4355 Год назад
Hi! This isn't connected to this video but I was wondering if you'd done a video on Anne Seymour? I scrolled through but couldn't see it but I thought I'd ask. 🙂 I saw a quick video on another channel about her but it was disappointingly brief & she sounds like a fascinating person - I'd love to hear you bring her to life, as you do that so well!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I haven't but perhaps I will in the future. Thanks for the idea :-)
@lucyh4355
@lucyh4355 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling Thank you!
@woodenbeast9337
@woodenbeast9337 Год назад
Glad they all stayed together.
@Moebian73
@Moebian73 Год назад
Death heads must be drooling over this video. :) Another very good video from the best history teller. :)
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. I certainly hope so. I think a little drool from the 'death heads' would be very good for my viewing figures :-)
@Thefruitspeaks
@Thefruitspeaks 3 месяца назад
When I say I feel this poor woman's pain, I mean it. It's a hell like no other! I'm lucky to have survived. I had a J-tube (feeding tube inserted into the jejunum) mishap that ripped my intestine. For 2 weeks, E. Coli, bile, waste, and more filled my abdomen. Only once I was septic did doctors listen and look at what happened. By then, the area was so inflamed and infected, anesthetic didn't work. I felt every bit of them trying to aspirate it. I was told that had they known how bad it was, I would have been put under. I still ended up needing emergency surgery.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 месяца назад
Oh mercy! I'm so sorry that happened to you and glad to read that you survived. I hope you sued.
@Thefruitspeaks
@Thefruitspeaks 2 месяца назад
@@HistoryCalling Thank you. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to sue. It was a different facility in our area that chose to ignore me. Karma got them, though, as the entire hospital shut down last year. I have severe PTSD from it all, but it taught my whole family that we HAVE to be our own advocates.
@FlyerBowman
@FlyerBowman Год назад
I'm an operating theatre nurse and I've seen what incarcerated umbilical hernias look like on the inside. I was cringing through the entire video! I really want to go back and slap those doctors but I understand that a LOT has changed in medical science over the centuries. Lets all be very grateful we live in an age with modern medicine and anaesthetic.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Oh gosh, yes I imagine you have seen some things in your time. You must have a strong stomach.
@FlyerBowman
@FlyerBowman Год назад
@@HistoryCalling I have seen a lot! Amputations are particularly interesting. I'm very interested in surgical history and this episode was really great! Thank you!
@sarareimold3151
@sarareimold3151 11 месяцев назад
Modern medicine is still one of the biggest killers...it hasn't improved as much as it should have in that time period!
@MichelleBruce-lo4oc
@MichelleBruce-lo4oc Год назад
Hi. Awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you? I'm doing well. See you next video greetings from Canada 😊
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Michelle. I'm good thanks. Glad to hear things are going well on the other side of the pond too.
@davidchurch3472
@davidchurch3472 11 месяцев назад
She obviously suffered a bowel obstruction (the medicines were to relax the bowel wall muscles to relieve the painful colicks caused by the absolute obstruction), which required surgery in order to save her life (iv fluids and feeding were not possible in those days). The fever indicates that she had suffered a bowel rupture BEFORE the surgery, so the abdomen was filled with faeces before surgery commenced, and the only way to clean this out would be through the surgical wound. Modern medicine is now able to do this with sterile peritoneal lavage, whilst we are also able to give more effective anaesthetics than the oral alcohol and morphia available at that time. Any delay in replacing the protrusion/ reducing the hernia and relieving the bowel obstruction could have been fatal. It is highly unlikely - although there are reports of survival - that a bowel rupture could be recovered from without surgery. Putrefactive degeneration of the tummy skin is the most likely outcome if patient lives long enough, although occasionally in women the vaginal wall breaks down first, creating an outlet, which I suspect the Queen would not like, if still conscious.
@mimib8032
@mimib8032 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! I was looking for an explanation using more modern terms. Appreciate it.
@artfuldodger96
@artfuldodger96 11 месяцев назад
'She obviously suffered a bowel obstruction..' 😄 Oh, for Pete's sake. What we know for sure - from this story at least - is that days after her initial symptoms of nausea, weakness and fever (no bowel irregularities yet).. her husband disclosed a "hard to locate" umbilical hernia. Unrelated charge. 😏 18th century doctoring had already done it's duty in weakening her with bloodletting and vomit inducing tonics, so straight to work cutting the intestine open! Royal diets in that day were rich and low in fiber. To put it bluntly, a person can hang on to a lot of 💩. Zero sanitation, filthy hands, bacteria covered instruments.. it was a race to see what would kill her first. Oh, to be a microbe in those days.. Point being, there's no real evidence as to what began this bungled chain of events. I can tell you're not a scientist in profession, but conjecture is fun for everyone. ☺️
@claire2088
@claire2088 Год назад
this is honestly horrifying 😲 that poor woman, she must have had pain tolerance totally off the scale. But how badass 😂 asking them to pause your unanesthetised surgery so you could laugh. I'm glad that she seemed to have an okay relationship with george (despite every description in this video making him sound like a complete plonker)
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, he was a plonker but I guess he was her plonker and they do genuinely seem to have loved each other.
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx Год назад
here early today 🙌🏻
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
You are indeed. Enjoy the video :-)
@pearlfeather9326
@pearlfeather9326 Год назад
Omg!!!!!
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Год назад
I like her so much!! Ngl when I saw “Caroline” I thought it was Caroline of Brunswick, and of all, that was not romantic! The fact that it is that of Ansbach makes more sense :) Have a nice Friday and thank you!!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, she's a great historical figure and yeah, no romance with Caroline of Brunswick. Talk about a bad marriage!
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Год назад
@@HistoryCallingPoor woman :( George IV was a beast innit?
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
He wasn't great, but to be honest (having read a little bit about her whilst researching her mother-in-law), she was no picnic either.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Год назад
@@HistoryCallingooh! Please, do let me know!!
@t.c.thompson2359
@t.c.thompson2359 Год назад
No wonder her son was so distrusting of doctors
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, it wouldn't inspire confidence.
@AthenaisC
@AthenaisC 9 месяцев назад
This is a strangulated hernia. No way she was going to survive this no matter what they did back then. They just made a bad situation worse. Poor lady.
@tulipchic34
@tulipchic34 11 месяцев назад
My mother had a hernia. Was back and forth to the ER a few times before they diagnosed it. Vomiting and constipation
@robertb4000
@robertb4000 Год назад
Oh...(*say with pain*), mon Dieu, cela n'empêche pas
@moomyung9231
@moomyung9231 11 месяцев назад
People at that time wouldn't be freaked out by seeing bodies, you would come across bodies just on the streets of cities, and most people died at home not at a hospital. People would witness all sorts of gruesome illnesses, worse than a years-dead body which would be worse than the horror of recent putrefaction. It's viewing history from a modern perspective instead of putting yourself in their shoes. They didn't have modern sensibilities.
@daisyl2629
@daisyl2629 9 месяцев назад
Sounds like she had small bowel obstruction. I had emergency surgery for the very same thing in 2021 and Lisa Marie Presley died after having surgery for this too. I couldn’t eat anything for 9 days until after the surgery. What this poor woman suffered must have been unbelievably awful, ending in manslaughter.
@carimacavan
@carimacavan 9 месяцев назад
Where did you get the information about Lisa Marie?
@lianefehrle9921
@lianefehrle9921 Год назад
I do learn a few things from you!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thank you. That's the idea - teaching my viewers one ghastly way to die in early modern Britain at a time 😂
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 Год назад
I'd watch a tier list of how romantic various monarchic marriages were (stopping before the marriages in more recent memory)
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Hmm, interesting idea, although I suppose everyone will define 'romantic' differently. Anne Boleyn's marriage was romantic to start off with for example and we all know how that ended 😬
@serenabennett3622
@serenabennett3622 11 месяцев назад
Oh, poor woman.
@BeveC21E
@BeveC21E Год назад
So much suffering, so much! I thank you, Lord, for so much! Mainly, for allowing my birth to be in this century and not prior! May that poor, most un- fortunate lady, be at peace in the brightness of Your light! Amen
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I don't know how people (especially women) functioned in an era before reliable and safe pain killers.
@berkleysorrells3130
@berkleysorrells3130 Год назад
Even down to the surgeon's wig catching on fire...I can't even, this poor woman
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. It was farcical. Poor Caroline.
@avalonkerr8332
@avalonkerr8332 Месяц назад
I Need to know what the daffy elixer is!
@sylviegauthier2145
@sylviegauthier2145 4 дня назад
This is a very late addition to this section, but I thought Princess Victoria, Queen Victoria's daughter who married the last Kaiser's father was the worst royal death. I can't remember where I read it, but there was mention that her servants requested to have their rooms moved away from hers because they couldn't handle hearing her scream in pain all night as she died of spine cancer. My memory is poor now and the only part that has stayed with me to this day is the vision of a woman screaming in pain as she died.
@southernsunshine6154
@southernsunshine6154 9 месяцев назад
I’m jfrom North Carolina. North and South Carolina were named for Queen Caroline. The largest city in North Carolina is named Charlotte in honor of Queen Charlotte. It is called Queen City.
@savagedarksider2147
@savagedarksider2147 Год назад
Henry the 8th had A hard time in trying to produce A living son while Peter the great did produced A living son but he had him executed.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yeah, the Russian royal family made the English look like kittens.
@oldcollegecoed
@oldcollegecoed Год назад
It’s quite possible that generations of inbreeding caused genetic abnormalities in the men’s sperm and/or female’s eggs, causing miscarriages and infertility. (Consider the Hapsberg dynasty in the past and the Whittakers today. The consequences of inbreeding are obvious and devastating.)
@oldcollegecoed
@oldcollegecoed Год назад
@@HistoryCallingTrue in this particular situation, but that’s about it.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Bad inbreeding such as the Habsburgs practiced with uncles marrying nieces etc can certainly lead to those problems, but I think the English and Russians actually engaged in nothing worse than you might find in any small town or village in the land hundreds of years ago. It's actually very rare to even find a set of first cousins marrying in the English/Scottish/British royal family. It happened of course (Victoria and Albert), but when you think of how many marriages there were, it only accounts for a small percentage of the whole. You were probably more likely to be married to your second cousin if you lived in some little village in the highlands or a remote area of England or Ireland and I say that as someone who is descended from people who lived in exactly those locations. We might all be more inbred than most of the royals 😂
@oldcollegecoed
@oldcollegecoed Год назад
@@HistoryCalling But don’t forget, the English monarchy was dominated by Germans!
@SS501Fan101
@SS501Fan101 10 месяцев назад
Oh wow yeah that poor woman, there weren't any accounts but if poo kept coming into contact with an open wound then it could lead to sepsis but no one recorded any of those symptoms so idk. Those doctors (and her husband of course) did her some injustice
@Shawnsatisfiedwife
@Shawnsatisfiedwife 9 месяцев назад
Thank god medicine has come so far
@aaronobryan4295
@aaronobryan4295 11 месяцев назад
I love this channel…it’s nit taunted..reported fact
@robyndavis3043
@robyndavis3043 Год назад
She suffered from an “umbilical hernia” and an infection from untreated surgical instruments 😢 That poor lady
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. It was just a hideous way to go. :-(
@delia88209
@delia88209 Год назад
Great video. I feel bad that she had to live with all that pain and misery. Medicine has advance so far since her death. Have a great weekend
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Thanks Delia. I know. What wouldn't she have given for a good strong dose of morphine?
@delia88209
@delia88209 Год назад
Yes. Morphine would have helped her a lot
@ThisisRubbishlo
@ThisisRubbishlo 11 месяцев назад
Oh she had a hernia, wow they really didn’t know much back then
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