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The Demarcation Problem: Falsificationism 

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In this lecture, I show why falsifiability is NOT the demarcation criterion. I do this by discussing seven topics:
1. The Demarcation Problem
2. The Relationship between Demarcation, Methodology, and Progress
3. The Failure of Verificationism
4. Falsificationism
5. Falsifiability as the Demarcation Criterion
6. The Central Problem with Falsificationism
7. The Implications of the Quine-Duhem Thesis
This video is a supplement to Karl Popper's article, "Science: Conjectures and Refutations," which can be accessed here: drive.google.com/open?id=0B_T...
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20 июл 2024

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Комментарии : 51   
@colins7543
@colins7543 6 лет назад
This was an absolutely excellent lecture and presentation! Outstanding. I love your presentation style. So clear. You're brilliant at explaining things. This has really helped me to get my head around this topic and to understand the critical problem with Popper's falsificationism - which before, I had a uncomfortable feeling about but couldn't quite put my finger on. It makes a lot of sense after watching this. Now I feel so much more confident in writing an essay which is due in a couple of days! Thank you so so so much!
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 6 лет назад
Colin S, you’re very welcome! I hope some of my other videos can also be helpful to you.
@Vadjhars
@Vadjhars 2 месяца назад
This channel needs more attention. Subbed.
@NS-wo6ze
@NS-wo6ze 5 лет назад
I study at Oxford and your lecture is at this level. Awesome
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 4 года назад
My apologies, NS! I didn't get a notification when you first commented. I'm really glad to hear that, and I sincerely appreciate the compliment.
@rogerlindsay8156
@rogerlindsay8156 Год назад
Is there something I'm missing here? In the example purporting to show that falsification is impossible, focusing on the issue of whether variation in mass affects the rate of acceleration under gravity, the lecturer tells us that this is a good example because the hypothesis that mass affects rate of acceleration is known to be false. If falsification is impossible, how could this hypothesis, or any other, ever be known to be false?
@MRLJ10076
@MRLJ10076 7 лет назад
Your videos are fantastic. I'm studying artificial intelligence and got interested in the philosophy of science and epistemology after reading David Deutsch's books. All your videos nicely clarify and separate out all of these positions. Thanks
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 7 лет назад
Thank you, Kitt--I'm very glad that you're enjoying them and that they're helpful to you.
@JonSebastianF
@JonSebastianF 4 года назад
Whoah, this was SUCH a well-written lecture :D
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 4 года назад
Thank you, Jon-and I even had lots of fun making it! I'm glad that you found it helpful.
@geoffreyjohnson7445
@geoffreyjohnson7445 2 года назад
How do we rescue falsifiability so that it is useful? Can we not define falsifiability as the ability to gather empirical evidence against a hypothesis, not that a hypothesis is proven false using empirical evidence? Using this more appropriate definition of falsifiability, is a hypothesis falsifiable with the ability to gather empirical evidence so long as we make a no unmeasured confounders assumption? Do my ideas fall under some other philosophy of science already in existence? Is my rescued idea of faslifiability given a new name? Some type of neo-falsifiability? To me this neo-falsifiability seems to be the demarcation principle we are after.
@Rnankn
@Rnankn Год назад
Science is a method of systematic inquiry, usually the empirical method of using evidence to describe reality. This video conflates fields of technical and professional practice with method to advance a political agenda defending the hegemony of natural science and scientific materialism.
@muhammadwaqas9303
@muhammadwaqas9303 2 года назад
So good explanation. Thank you so much sir...🍮
@grantdillon3420
@grantdillon3420 2 года назад
If we take the Hume-ian view about knowledge and belief, that we ought to proportion our confidence in keeping with the evidence, what does this objection to falsificationism then say about our ability to be confident in any scientific knowledge at all? What set of criteria, therefore, would be used to develop confidence in any knowledge at all? I suppose it was my impression that the entire point of falsificationism is that, while the mere status of something being unfalsifiable doesn't mean it's untrue, most of the fabricated, deceptive, and outright BS claims will be structured to be unfalsifiable. Thus falsification, if nothing else, acts as an excellent razor to rule out BS. The question therefore becomes, if falsificationism is an unworkable epistemological tool, how might we be able to find confidence in our determination between truth and lies, between fact and fiction etc?
@hilinayinager9812
@hilinayinager9812 Год назад
Thanks, Andrew. You're awesome! And funny
@user-ox6hj6bm3t
@user-ox6hj6bm3t 2 года назад
Usually a hypothesis is put to the test under a certain set of conditions that are not exactly reproducible in every subsequent application. With this understanding I could accept a hypothesis (and start applying it elsewhere) or reject it but I wouldn't be making absolute truth claims in either case. So if I falsify it I am rejecting it not saying it is the truth. That's what falsification means to me
@woutv.m.808
@woutv.m.808 4 года назад
Great lecture. Helped me understand a thing or two and taking it's place two new things to question. No hypothesis is ever falsifiable based on empirical evidence. But what about other types of evidence? Can logical evidence pull through for example?
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 4 года назад
It definitely can! If a theory were logically inconsistent, e.g., that would be a big problem with the theory (although, I should note, logical consistency isn't a necessary feature of fruitful scientific theories-there are certain interpretations of quantum phenomena that are either logically inconsistent or that require a non-classical logic). Thomas Kuhn has a really nice paper that I return to over and over (and that's saying something, because I'm generally pretty unimpressed by Kuhn, despite his popularity) in which he discusses the empirical and theoretical trade-offs that confront any theory. E.g., we might be entirely fine with a logically inconsistent theory if the theory seems to explain and predict the empirical data better than any other theory. The paper's called "Objectivity, Value Judgment, and Theory Choice," and I've just uploaded it for you here: drive.google.com/file/d/1WxhWAdX9UJ579w6a3YO-SgVp8j1lnWLr/view?usp=sharing The specific issue when it comes to Popper, however, will be that Popper wants to define "falsifiability" in terms of empirical evidence alone, and logical evidence is non-empirical. Of course, someone could update Popper's theory to include logical evidence as a source of falsification, but then we might end up losing good theories that have explanatory and predictive power because they can't meet whatever logical test we set for them, and we'll probably also be unable to exclude lots of clearly unscientific theories, simply because those theories don't run afoul of the logical test we set (e.g., astrology, which has absolutely no scientific value, is generally entirely logically acceptable).
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 4 года назад
Just realized that I actually have a lecture on the Kuhn article that I mentioned in my previous comment! So I uploaded it and it's available right here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Mg9w-8tjV_Y.html
@woutv.m.808
@woutv.m.808 4 года назад
@@autodidactstoolkit Thanks for taking the time to write such an elaborate answer. At least elaborate by RU-vid standars (haha). You largely cleared the confusion I had in my initial comment. Thanks for that. Is it really that difficult for scientists to adopt a theory for it's explanatory & predictive power and equally make use of a logical test, even though both can't include each other?
@SeoFam01
@SeoFam01 2 года назад
Falsification is necessary but no sufficient.
@climatedeceptionnetwork4122
@climatedeceptionnetwork4122 2 года назад
2:30 - By now I'm thinking that we're condemned to pragmatism. I will follow further. This is very good.
@Gil7460
@Gil7460 Год назад
Same, I come back to the same conclusion.
@ArtisanTony
@ArtisanTony 3 года назад
Motive is more of a problem than anything. The motive of those wanting a demarcation criterion is suspicious to me. I have this funny thought that those who want to establish the criterion, want to be the creator and holder of it :) This comes when science is used to gain more than knowledge. If the motive is anything more than knowledge, you can bet the criterion itself will benefit some and hurt others. We are human so motive is present in any case. You had a motive in making this video. :)
@zerge69
@zerge69 6 лет назад
Great lesson. But the question remaining is, what IS the demarcation criteria then?
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 6 лет назад
Or even: IS there a demarcation criterion? The standard presumption has been that since science is so awesome, there MUST be a thing that separates science from nonscience, otherwise, it would be difficult to explain science's awesomeness. Check out my video on Larry Laudan's view of scientific methodology for an approach to scientific methodology and demarcation that claims that while there is a difference between science and nonscience, that difference is neither immutable nor definite-it can move and there are gray areas where not only is it not clear whether a discipline or investigation is science or nonscience, there might be no fact of the matter in such cases; the discipline or investigation might count as both at once (or neither at once).
@zerge69
@zerge69 6 лет назад
Thanks for the answers, makes sense
@Human_Evolution-
@Human_Evolution- 5 лет назад
@@autodidactstoolkit what do you think about David Deutsch's emphasis on science and philosophy needing explanations that are "hard to vary?" I think it's a great thesis and encompasses so much more than science.
@yosemitejam
@yosemitejam Месяц назад
This sounds like verification can never really be addressed either (22:22) If you can not isolate a hypothesis then verification can’t be addressed either. Seems like you’re just taking one side.
@maxpercer7119
@maxpercer7119 Год назад
hi andrew, do you have a video on a *solution* to the 'problem of induction'. its easy to pose the problem of induction, but i have yet to see a good solution. saying we use induction out of habit as Hume suggested -because the past has been stable or regular enough for the habit of induction to produce good results - is a descriptive solution. it's like saying a particular tribe engages in cannibalism. it isn't a justification for inductive inference, i.e. why are we justified to think we have reliable knowledge about the future based on the past.
@fluxo_musical
@fluxo_musical Год назад
Hello. I remember that in the Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Hume gives his reason why it is the case that we use induction out of psychological habit. He points to a cognitive pressuposition that humans must (psychologically) make just in order to continue to live normally and make predictions about reality: this is the "principle of the uniformity of nature". This "hidden" principle is precisely the belief that justifies the use of induction, logically (for if nature is uniform, if its "Laws" or mode of opperation is unchanging, then it follows that "the future will resemble the past", which justifies the proposition that inductive reasoning can reach "law-like" knowledge of nature simply by enumerating suffient past instances of the recurrence of certain phenomena), and psychologically (because, since we pressupose - as a given - that nature is uniform, it becomes absolutely rational to use inductive reasoning to explore such world, that is, from a purely psychological perspective). Therefore, I think that Hume did not just "described" that induction is done out of habit, but tried to "explain" why and how that is the case. From a strict logical point of view, induction is not "justified", at least not in the same way as simple a priori deduction is. If people search for an absolutely certain and rational foundation for induction, well, then, Hume's argument seems enough to disproove that induction works. So, there is no possible solution. But, if you want some other form of "solution" (maybe a more pragmatic one, and less strictly logical...), then we really need another philosopher, and a new argument, if we want a solution for the problem of induction.
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit Год назад
I’ll work on one!
@davidpaintsil7994
@davidpaintsil7994 Год назад
So good!...😂the ending tho
@desseldrayce5248
@desseldrayce5248 3 года назад
For a critique of the view that Popper was correct in his critical assessment of Bacon, see Colin Howson's book, "Hume's Problem". Howson provides an exetegical analysis of Bacon and finds that Popper's characterization was a strawman.
@Wwcnwo3n498cn
@Wwcnwo3n498cn 6 лет назад
Nice. One comment though about your presentation- either talk to us and show me something interesting or put the words up and play something else, I can read perfectly well
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 4 года назад
I really appreciate the feedback, Jimini, and I understand and sympathize with the criticism. My reason for doing things the way I'm doing them is so that the content is maximally accessible to people with different abilities and capacities. E.g., people who are hearing-impaired can read the text, people who are seeing-impaired can listen, people with language-processing disorders can both see and hear the lecture, people with ADHD can scroll through the lecture looking at the text and stop when they find what they're looking for, etc.
@RedefineLiving
@RedefineLiving 9 месяцев назад
It seems disagreeing with Popper because “it best fits the data” only begs the question.
@roman_mishin
@roman_mishin 2 года назад
Very strange. The author proves that "falsifiability is the demarcation criterion" is false (his hypothesis) by falsifying the link (H->I) between hypothesis and test implication (his test implication). He also states that 14:45 "It is very important to recognize the difference between three terms: falsifiable, falsified, and false", but actually proves 23:00 "The Impossibility of Falsification". Judging by the sound of his voice, exclamation mark, and capital NOT the author seems very proud of himself.
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 2 года назад
Falsifiability in terms of the philosophy of science is the ability for a scientific hypothesis to be shown false via actual or possible empirical evidence. Since falsificationism itself is not a scientific hypothesis (it is a philosophical hypothesis) and since the logical evidence used to show the unworkability of falsificationism is not empirical evidence, there’s no self-undermining here.
@marcianopadilla3404
@marcianopadilla3404 6 лет назад
The fact that you can lay out such mumbo jumbo is impressive.
@Human_Evolution-
@Human_Evolution- 5 лет назад
How dare you.
@ArtisanTony
@ArtisanTony 3 года назад
15:45 climate science :)
@marcianopadilla3404
@marcianopadilla3404 6 лет назад
Social work meets the criteria for pseudoscience because of the striking differences in theory and practice .In other words a science that's worth is solely based on its humanitarian value in theory. That in itself gives it it's validity even though results are substantially inconsistent.On second thought, it is a science if it meets the criterion for falsifiability,or Poppers principle of uncertainty .
@mrjerkface9367
@mrjerkface9367 5 лет назад
You don't have ANY idea what you're talking about.
@autodidactstoolkit
@autodidactstoolkit 5 лет назад
Mr Jerkface, if you have any questions about the material, I’d be happy to do what I can to help you understand it.
@mrjerkface9367
@mrjerkface9367 5 лет назад
@@autodidactstoolkit i take it reading comprehension is an issue for you, then. thank you. no.
@Human_Evolution-
@Human_Evolution- 5 лет назад
@@mrjerkface9367 name checks out.
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