The Dev Behind "The Culling of Stratholme" | OG Warcraft 3 and Vanilla Dev Interview 

Amazing interview amigo, happy Dave told it how it is! Ebon really killing it out here 🔥🔥🔥

damn it man i was waiting for Ner'Zhul question.. the One True King which they written off basically. I see ARthas's and Ner'zhul's relationship as something very special. The insight and vision of nerzhul who, as explained by kelthuzad to arthas - ''he chose you to be his champion long before the Scourge even began'' - combined with ARthas unvawering will to follow the dark but true calling he always had in him, that symbiosis is what i wanted to know more on.

@ 42:53 So that is why the raptor nests glow! I always thought there was supposed to be a reason behind the color. 😂

Great interview! I just wanna thank David for being a part and creating my favorite game Warcraft 3.

The Age of Empires take is so based I feel obligated to subscribe to this man

Now he’s a dev for turtle wow 🐢. Didn’t know he used to work for blizzard. It all makes sense now.

just the best dungeon in the game, so many variations of stuff to do inside with basic quests and then all the different extras from temporary season events to permanent layers of items to collect or rare to kill..I just asked myself what a full 3D headset with adapted rendering would be like, imagine, being a student, actually learning what they study, experiment the changes from inside haha

OMG making WoW tools user friendly (including systems) would be HUGE.

6:32 Famous last words XD

I always wanted to know if my concept of Stratholme was correct- that is, that Mal'Ganis had set up a situation where it was "heads I win, tails you lose." That is, either he got a huge undead army to sweep Lordaeron, or corrupt Arthas. Arthas only winning move was one he could never have possibly done- which is to flee across the sea with everyone he can get to abandon his kingdom. Once we get into the later era of Blizzard, the bad guys stop winning and having smart plans. They just stand around and tell us they are scary while we smash them into the ground. And every point he made on WoW quest design is 1000% on point. It's a shame he lost that battle.

I love the honesty of DesignerDave. He speaks the truth we need to hear, even though it's heartbreaking. #BlizzardisDead

What surprised me the most was people complaining about violence in the earliest version of Warcraft. Just goes to show that these people were always around Blizzard lol

I like how he went so hardon blizzard in less than 3 mins, im a fan!

Arthas did nothing wrong Until he defied Uther's orders Lied to his men Killed his own mercenaries And voluntarily took upon a cursed blade for the sake of vengeance But the Culling of Stratholme was the correct course of action to protect the innocent and prevent the absolute scourging of Lordaeron

If he would have stayed as around until launch, he'd likely felt different about that bonus check. Staying that long would have been the real challenge if the pay was that bad.

I had no idea Nomad became WoW. I just thought it was canceled. Interesting.

Imho, it's quite possibly the greatest dungoen of all time. We ran it so much.

him talking about there being some villiagers who survived in the seccond cutscene... i did not read that scene that way. i read the culling as a massacre of the entire city, and the civilians who were in the city afterward were brought in for the repairs. i thought the reason there was a need to kill a specific number of villagers was a gameplay thing, but you were really massacreing the whole thing. also if there were survivors, they would still be corrupted and would turn. so jaina and uther came across as arrogant and incompetent. this was further developed with stratholm in wow being entirely dead. it would have been better narratively if it was done a bit differently. if uther or jaina had been in the mission, and was trying to rescue all of the villagers, so it was a 3 way tug of war, then the message of there being survivors would have been communicated. instead the return of jaina and uther was a return from outside the city who hadn't been infected at all.

What's everyones thoughts on the interview and OG Vanilla/Warcraft 3. What do you guys wish could have made it to us, the public? And big thanks to Dave for making time for this interview!

I think he totally robs the moral ambiguity of the story by insisting Arthas is wrong. Whats best for an artist is to let the fans speculate and decide what was the right decision or not.

blizzard: hey let's fire the guys who made the best game ever, we the fans: wtf?

The AAA corps destroying developers hits hard. But I think the Bungie example isn't great after all we've seen them do and heard about what happened behind the scenes.

Arthas did the right thing. ✌️

good collab

did he say he had a discord?

I love Dave! Big TWoW enjoyer 😊

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I got terminal brain cancer from Turtle WOW

replying to you ebon on this vid ya did. it's a trip to see another OG from the get go of blizzard that did work on warcraft 3 and some of WoW stuff and probably other older games before he quit out of it cause of reasons, people do not give proper credit when credit is do. thanks to them that did work so hard for so little payment, made great memorable games but sadly those great games were done by the creative people. Corporation people aka business people just want the outcome of shit loads of money and pay very little to the workers that worked on the game tirelessly... This is no different from any other entertainment industry. When he brought up Phil saying that the team that did well making a good game, got tossed out basically and that company is back together again minus Microsoft backing. That's fucked up, these assholes just want more money then what they've spent to create the game but also wanna put in their political shit into the games and telling the creative makers what they can and can not do? Fuck that noise, I'm glad he made the decision to leave and did other things. I'm glad i didn't become a game designer entirely just because of that, business people fuck it up entirely so. I don't give a shit how much money these publishers make, if the money that don't go into the right people mainly the ones that created the bitch to begin with, then these people don't deserve their golden gooses at all. It's fine to have some hope into the games now that are being reworked or worked on but don't put high hopes into this classic+. Blizzard has a long ass way to get back on people's graces after the shit storm the ones that caused it to begin with too be fixed entirely.