The Difference Between Thin & Full Kerf Blades is SMALLER Than You Thought

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Here's one of the cheapest, easiest, and most beneficial upgrades that ANYONE can make to there table saw, and why it works so well.
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@WorkshopGreg Год назад

The arbor flange becomes the reference point the line is calibrated to. So long as the arbor position doesn't change, the line will forever be aligned with the edge of most blades. I like this solution a lot. I'll be doing this on my saw table as well.

@skigglystars9525 Год назад

I had zero doubts it would work well for 99.9% of all woodworking folks.

@makermark67 Год назад

I agree 100% it's one of the best upgrades I've ever done on my table saw. The fact that you had to go to that depth to explain it to some folks it's a bit worrisome but common sense ain't so common anymore. Glad you're hanging in there producing videos. You're filling a huge hole in the youtube world. Thanks for doing it right.

@ytbillybob Год назад

A+ on the hand drawing. Speaking of hand drafting, when I got my first drafting set for Christmas about 50 years ago it came with a little paddle with a pad of sandpaper on it for "pointing" your lead. Later, in the office, we used the spin type desktop lead pointer. And of course we had the horsehair brush and the eraser bag. Who remembers those?? Another A+ on another quick example of measuring to fit rather than using a tape.

@bobd5119 Год назад

In junior high circa 1959 I used the spinner, but not a brush or eraser bag. The pencils were no. 5. I wish I had saved my drawings, none of which I can remember at all.

@oliverreedslovechild Год назад

" the spin type desktop lead pointer ". Otherwise known as ' pencil sharpener '.

@iSparkFU Год назад

Nice video! Even way back in the 80's, craftsman table saws were on to this. They had way for you to "scribe" a line, aligned with your saw blade that was built into the saw top! It was called Exact-i-Cut. Yep.

@davidjanis1997 Год назад

Yea it’s on my Craftsman table saw

@Brian-tb1zs Год назад

Another excellent video, no dancing around, no stupid theatrics, just great info, delivered in a way that confirms it and can be understood. And you explain possible variables. Thanks !

@velcroman11 Год назад

Thank you for putting the “knowalls” in their places. Your demonstration is incredible. I hate changing my blade once but you did it over and over. What a champion.

@JohnnyUmphress Год назад

I did this years ago on my table saw and it has not failed me yet. It has been a very valuable trick.

@JimRimS4S 4 месяца назад

Love it. There is nothing wrong with trying to understand what is going on when you make a cut. Keep it up

@jeffkowalski4936 Год назад

I did this on a saw when was first starting out and it worked great then. I’ve had my current saw for 20 years and somehow did not do this trick. Time to buy a new saw and start fresh. Lol

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

I love how you slam the door shut!!! And you do it in a fairly respectful manner, with just a dash of "you moron." The only thing I would have added to the video... if your arbor faces the other direction then scribe the other side. Thanks for the great content as always!!!!

@vmoutsop Год назад

Good enough is usually good enough. Skeptics will will be what they be. I like the suggestion, keep them coming!

@theswime945 Год назад

Thanks mate for another reassuring dose of your particular brand of common sense. I've yet to see a woodworker demonstrate a project that was ruined because of a couple of thousands of an inch. Cheers.

@charlesenfield2192 Год назад

I have to admit I was wrong about this one. It didn't occur to me that with the plate and kerf changing together that the difference relative to the arbor flange is so small. Thanks for demonstrating this. I would not have tried it for myself.

@hansangb Год назад

Hmmm, I forgot to do this with my saw. Thanks for the reminder! BTW, that highly technical diagram was awesome!

@kwiknikk Год назад

I didn't comment on the original video but I was on the side that it was silly to scribe a line because it will only work for one blade. I am so surprised by your findings and glad I was wrong, I'm going to give this a try.

@michaelhughes1740 2 месяца назад

1st look at your site. Good job. Brought forth well, and makes one think. I will have to see what else you have. Hang in there. Oh, good specs on the "AV" drawing as well. M

@KyleBruns Год назад

Seeing this in action convinced me.

@tommythompson6278 Год назад

I did exactly the same thing right after I bought my saw. My issue was I couldn’t exactly see where the blade was cutting and I didn’t like that. So I drew the line and feel much better and more exact on the first cut every time.

@davidyeo4302 Год назад

SCIENCE!!!! Great video! This will be done to my new saw! Thanks!

@poman8772 Год назад

Thanks for the reminder. Your no bs/common sense approach to woodworking is very refreshing. Keep these videos coming!

@danielesilvaggi Год назад

I have yet to use this method but it is a very good idea. thank you.

@bradleytuckwell4881 Год назад

I followed your lead and did it to my table saw and by the way I can’t believe it’s been a year but I only put a light mark to see how accurate it was and after a few blade changes it has been on point with every cut so yes it’s the best add to my saw. The only change I made was adding a bit of red marking paint to highlight it

@stephan1906 Год назад

Very interesting experiment! I upgraded my saw with the line, just after I saw your video about it. It is so efficient! Thanks a lot and best regards from germany.

@richardgeorge9750 Год назад

Excellent info Excellent delivery Looks like you also had a little fun with this one

@egbluesuede1220 Год назад

That reminds me.....i meanth to go make a scratch in my table the last time I saw this, but guess I forgot. I'll go do that now thank you!

@hassanal-mosawi4235 Год назад

Thanks for sharing those tips and the make!

@johnlp3376 Год назад

I got a new sawstop about 8 months ago been thinking about the line. It will work fine for me full , thin , rip dont matter my woodworking is not in that's tight of tolerance. Ita work for me

@scottmen7 Год назад

Great video and awesome breakdown. Thanks!

@rona1144 Год назад

Nice, especially the dado stack at the end.

@MCsCreations Год назад

Wow... Pretty interesting stuff indeed, dude! Thanks for testing and measuring! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@Goalsplus Год назад

Excellent idea and results.

@GrantOakes Год назад

Great content as usual! Thanks for posting.

@lithiumdeuteride Год назад

You scienced it good!

@dahljerald2934 Год назад

A interesting and helpful tip. Thanks

@oneeyedphotographer Год назад

I use a sled on one side of the saw bench. Like the fence on your mitre gauge, the cut marks the spot. It does depend on which side the shaft that hold your blade is bushed. I think it's always user-left, but I ever would make that assumption. Just look at hand-held circular saws. Cordless, on side. Corded, the other.

@garychaiken808 Год назад

Thank you. That’s a good tip.

@sdoitla1431 Год назад

The main thing to consider it the scribed line should be on the side of the blade that is opposite the side of the arbor that the nut & washer thread onto the arbor. Some saws thread from the left and some thread from the right.

@burntsider8457 Год назад

Impressive analysis.

@Erik_The_Viking Год назад

I drew a pencil line on my saw (aluminum top), so I know where the blade starts. Makes a huge difference. You would think that would be standard on saws.

@tomshepard4411 Год назад

great video, as always. The only real difference is in some specialty blades, for example a Dado stack with an offset left/right. .0025 is not even visible to the naked eye!

@kencoleman7762 Год назад

Well done and your logic seems dead on to me. Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate the accuracy of this scribed line.

@Kris-82 Год назад

Ppl seems to not consider that there's a collar to which all blades references to

@Dandroid61 Год назад

I have to go scribe a line on my tablesaw...be back in a bit...

@ibdrummin82 Год назад

Haters be a hatin'. Sounds like a good upgrade. Going to try it soon.

@axion8788 Год назад

You are a master of spatial thinking. I am always amazed at the solutions you come up with. I suck at spatial thinking/visualization which helps explain what an inept woodworker I am.🙃

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

You just need to use more tape measures and rulers... doesn't mean you're "inept" or bad at what you do. Maybe try using large sheets of construction paper or something similar (onion paper or wrapping paper on large rolls works great for the people I know) to sketch a more life-like size of the project? That way you maybe can "see" it better??

@axion8788 Год назад

@@Toyotajunkie I appreciate your suggestions. Sadly, this limitation also means I am unable to draw in 3D. Even Sketch-up is basically unusable. Instead, I kind of see it as I build it. Can't sing either! 🙂🙃🙂

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

@axion8788 Haa! "Can't sing either" there are a lot of those types on the radio... Well, good luck and keep trying. I try my best to help anyone I can. If it gets to the point where it is NOT enjoyable, make sure to recognize that and move on.

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

I have a Bosch (yes it sucks in some ways and I wish I had gone differently but at the time it worked perfectly) and it has a yellow "dot" to pencil a cut line on.

@mikedurkee7296 Год назад

Exceptional!

@xisotopex Год назад

seems like a good way to very quickly and easily gauge if the table saw is out of adjustment...

@rodpotts2666 Год назад

Love it!

@bryantyler229 Год назад

Thanks man, Do you mind sharing what species of wood that green wood is that you used in the last shots?

@TxStang Год назад

I think the ones that have an issue with the scribe line are using the miter slot to the left of the blade but they have an older saw that the blade arbor or direct drive motor is on the right , that would definitely change a tad as then you are moving the cutting edge away from the scribed line with different thickness blades . My old Rockwell table saw is like that , motor is on the right side with the nut on the left .

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

Then, in that case, you would scribe the opposite side......

@dpmeyer4867 Год назад

Thanks

@glencrandall7051 Год назад

The scribed line will be of value unless a crosscut sled is being used. The sled will cover up the line. But then you can use the kerf in the sled so it wouldn't matter.🙂🙂

@JC-ms2rz Год назад

I use a sled for 90 percent of all my table saw cuts. So this probably would not help me at all. But I love the idea.

@garynicoletti7182 Год назад

May I ask you what Brand & Model number miter gauge you used in this video? Do you have Pros & Cons about it?

@Andreas-tw4cm Год назад

Very helpfull

@BobBob-eh5sb Год назад

My god, 2/1000’s. How will I ever get pieces to fit right😂 Seriously though, as the old saying goes, close enough for government work. I won’t speak for others, but I probably don’t mark my line that precisely most of the time to worry about it. I like your idea of the line on the saw.

@unclejim2048 Год назад

Scribing a line on your tablesaw table is a great idea. To worry about the left side of the saw tooth is rather anal. Remember wood is hydroscopic and deliquescent -- what ever that means. If you are trying to do woodworking to the nearest 10,000 of an inch. it's fruitless -- you should be cutting piston wrist pins for Formula One race cars. Next someone will be worrying about the thickness of the line you scribed on the table top,

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

"Wrist pins" EXACTLY!! I mean, I try to be darn accurate, but it isn't metal... and even then who is machining parts with minute tolerances on a table saw? Perfect comment Jim!

@lincolndickerson1293 Год назад

To me this raises a question. For all 90° (angled cuts not good) cuts why aren’t all table saw fences used on the motor side of the blade. The fence is always the same distance from the saw ( within 2.5 thousands) Facts: 1) hand planes can remove 1 thousandth of an inch or less when properly tuned and may matter in fine furniture. 2) end grain doesn’t move so wood movement not a factor in crosscuts. Both of which you probably know. Also have little to do with your point except in supporting that 2.5 thousands is in consequence when using a table saw.

@warrenwerks Год назад

My old table saw the arbor was on the opposite side and it was great just for this reason. It’s one of the few things that drives me nuts about the sawstop. If the arbor was on the right instead I could rely on my fence scale for all of my blades instead of just one

@lincolndickerson1293 Год назад

@@warrenwerks I have a dewalt contractor saw. The fence can be moved to the otherside. I am going to monkey with it over the weekend.

@warrenwerks Год назад

@@lincolndickerson1293 I can move the fence to the other side as well but for me it I feel like I have much less control of the workpiece when the fence is left of the blade

@ytbillybob Год назад

@@warrenwerks I'm left handed but I bat and golf right. I use my fence to the right of the blade. Does that mean that I "tablesaw" right as well. Seriously, you right handers, does it feel more natural for you to have the fence on the right or is it just what most everyone does?

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

Most saws are capable of moving the fence to the other side of the blade... but you do loose some distance UNLESS you use his suggestion of adding width to your table (he has a video on it). Just a thought

@atomictyler 5 месяцев назад

I'm late to the party, but if you want dead on accuracy then you should be using a shooting board after the saw cut anyways. The line on the table saw is most certainly accurate enough for a cut at the table saw.

@tomowens2720 Год назад

I enjoyed watching this vid as I have others you've posted. I've done this and wonder why manufacturer's don't do it. Also I decided to give that fastcap zero clearance tape a try. Excellent product, I'll never have to make another zero throat plate again & all for $10. I think the best part of this vid was when you said you sharpened your pencil to a sharp point then drew out your lines with a mechanical pencil! Now that was phunny right there. Side note viewers, if you're not using that specific mechanical pencil, buy one. None better.

@jackstanford550 Год назад

QUESTION. Wouldn’t a saw ( like mine) with a RIGHT tilt blade require the mark to be made on the other side of the blade. Just asking. Thanks

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

If the drive/arbor is on the opposite side (some older machines and possibly "odd" brands, no offense intended) then yes, you would want to scribe/mark accordingly. Always go on the FIXED position side, aka the point where all the blades but up against on the arbor.

@xisotopex Год назад

my only issue with this is that I dont trust my ability to accurately true the saw blade, and therefore any mark I make would be incorrect...

@JavaidHameed Год назад

@gregmize01 Год назад

nuce

@unperrier5998 Год назад

It looks to me that this line is redundant with the rightmost side of your sled. Just align the piece with your sled and you don't need the line. Especially because I've got only one shot at making that line and if I fail I end-up with a line that's wrong, whereas the rightmost side of the sled is always wrong... and it can slide along, discribing the line, virtually but practically.

@Griswald2000 Год назад

Wish my motor was 180 degrees from what it is now.

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

Just scribe the other side and move your miter to the other track (assuming you have one...). Or use a sled maybe? Just suggestions

@michaelkeymont501 Год назад

The RU-vid comment section should be taken about as seriously as when you get a random text message from a number that you don’t recognize in which the sender refers to you as “dear recipient”…

@jarekborgul Год назад

Where from did you get a hair? 😆

@Toyotajunkie Год назад

Oh wow! Until I read this I didn't think about it. Haaaa!!! Love it

@ConcreteLand Год назад

I’m still wondering where he got the human hair. 🤔🤣

@InspireWoodcraft Год назад

Wife here! It was mine! 🤣

@BlessedLaymanNC Год назад

That's a great video and probably a waste of your time.... There will always be critics who think they are better than you, LOL. When you are eye-balling the cut, I don't think you will ever be more accurate than your calipers can measure. Even if you are, everything is relative. Unless you cut each board with a different kerf blade, they will all be the same length in the end. How important is 1/32" in wood working? We aren't building O-Rings for NASA.