The Dinosaur Game People HATE To Play... 

Great video, the quality is very impressive for such a small channel, i wish you the best :) As for end portion of it, the community must mature and become better from a moral and ethical standpoint, but we must first see why isle fans are like this in the first place. It is utterly impossible to create a healthy and positive playerbase when the developers themselves support, actively participate and even encourage toxic behaviour. If anyone has the responsibility to be ethical and moral, is Afterthought, the fact that the community needs to tell themselves that "we must not be X and Y, we need to be better than the developers", that, is sad. We do have to be better, but without Afterthought doing the same, that will never happen.

The only thing I don’t like is that you spend 5 fucking hours growing something just to get killed by falling off of a 4cm tall chiff

In the search for realism, they forgot that a video game was being created 😔

the worst part is it takes 6 to 8 hours to grow a dino ( a WORK DAY ) and there is cannibals there to kill you the moment you start exploring

I will never forget the sentence one of my friends said after I convinced him to buy this game and he was like "Dude this game doesnt respect your time. It's literally a time wasting simulator" And he is absolutely right. And its only gotten worse since then

The existence of pot shows me that even if there’s a bend of realism, there’s definitely a way to have Dinosaur games pop off again. Now they just need to fix the boring quest system and we’re golden

Touching on the part that people don't like to give the weirder ideas a chance: It should be noted that even if a new system or feature sucks, and even the devs say it sucks and that they will change or walk the decision back, it takes months for them to actually do so. So people are a little more jumpy since it means if something is bad, they'll be stuck with it for up to half a year.

I got this game a few weeks ago. And honestly, the biggest complaint I have is that it's always dark. The nights last too long. Even in a rainstorm, it becomes pitch black. Sometimes even during the day, I have to use night vision. I don't understand why they went that route.

So true. I'm glad I'm not the only person trying to tell the devs their game is unplayable xD

short answer: wasted potential that got bogged down by roster bloat and incompetence Long answer: fuck, oh boy

Why does no one ever remember that humans are yet to be implemented? It’s like they’ve added all of the Horde races and classes in World of Warcraft before adding the Alliance races and classes, instead of how it should be done - a handful from either side to establish a gameplay loop. The Isle is missing an entire faction and they’re still adding more dinosaurs, or Horde classes. Plus the constant re-hashing of maps and dinosaurs, the whole thing is just in a loop again. We’ve seen this all before and there’s still no solid game play loop.

For me, even as a person who’s never played the isle once, it isn’t a bad game/concept. The diets and different play styles are a welcomed addition. But that doesn’t excuse the BS they pulled before like insulting people who have valid criticism, the Dino roster (mainly future installments) being…. **COUGH**, dondi’s existence, the overall ego certain players have and overall toxicity and balancing issues. I don’t hate the isle but they have to do better cus we know that they can do it (I miss the lore and hypos too) Banger video tho fisher 👍

With the camera changes they are basically directly undermining all the hard work that some of the other devs have put into the skin system, meshes and the complex animations, now that you can’t even see your own body.

i gave up years ago because the game is impossible to run on my system, one that ive built as best i could within my financial situation as a disabled person who cant even find a way to make ends meet in anyway i can without the government pointing at me and telling me im faking it and giving me what is basically a death sentence of the very very extended, long and slow type but ive had it when it first arrived to early access, and before it became clear how troubled it was going to be, for many many years, it was a nice dream for a little while to just jump around as a little austroraptor, able to sit on the carnotaurus player's back while they ran laps around a lake.

The most notable thing I've ever known with The Isle was TheGamingBeaver's escapades through the legacy version. And now, I got PoT to turn to if ever I just want to turn off my brain and go full dino lol. But sure, even if with a focus on realism or immersion, The Isle Evirma is simply unmatched in terms of graphical fidelity, attention to detail in both the maps and the playables that can occupy it, in addition to the rather neat diet system, where at least you have a key sheet as to what gives what protein. But gameplay is just as important as said realism, and without that balance, it's little better than any painting, which isn't inherently bad, not at all, but it isn't exactly fun to simply *look* at it, at least on a general concensus. In short, The Isle is good, apart from the fact its shit.

We continue to play The Isle because the competition is abysmal / non existent. Litteraly all the most dedicated content creators I personally know have all burned out and dropped out of the game. Good video keep it up!

I actually just bought the game yesterday and then I discovered this video, crazy. also I find it hilarious that RU-vid marked this as the Google Dinosaur Game instead of The Isle.

The Isle was peak in like 2016 and 2017 with Progression and all that... Ah, the good old days, when The Isle was a video game, not a simulator...

I wold relly love if they implemented some intresting animal behavurs i the game, like sharpening claws on a tree as a tenontosaurus, ore marking territory as a ceratosaurus, so on and so forth. I wold also like some quality of life chages like herbivores inriching their diet with frogs, chickens or even baby dinosaurs, and carnivores eating plants to aid in digestion.

The isle is my most played game on Steam by a country mile. However, ever since they started prioritizing the Evrima beta I just can’t get into it. All of the classic legacy servers are dead and I miss them so much. I haven’t been able to recapture the experience of spending hours playing with people, forming herds and packs, migrating and hunting, playing hide and seek as a baby with carnis trying to eat me. I didn’t mind the long growth times or the many minutes of aimless walking and finding food. What I miss now is the feeling of being in a world with other people. I can never find players these days in Evrima. I just feel alone and it doesn’t feel like I’m actually playing the same game. I miss the chaos of legacy, the massive migrations and the hunts, being stalked and running for my life. I’ll always find myself wandering back to it every now and again (gotta get my 1000 hours!) but it just isn’t the same. I miss seeing people talking in the global chat. The realism wasn’t worth losing the feeling of community and interactivity for me.

Amazing video, it’s true that immersion has started going too far in this game, i like realistic games but games should also be fun, you summed it up perfectly!

Arguably one of the best isle videos I've seen yet, honest and not to sour, and probably one of the most valid opinions I've seen shared yet and formatted in the best way I can think of (also happy bug hunting!)

Awesome, thoughtful, respectful video. Totally agree. I've been saying for years that devs (of any game) need to be careful with realism because it can so easily make a game unfun.

Personally I just don’t enjoy the game anymore as it’s almost leaning too far into realism. Recently (about two months from now) I have basically left the isle (and was reminded why when I DARED to share an opinion in the isle discord) because it just wasn’t fun anymore. The roster is way too niche to have a variety of gameplay as of now, the mechanics are confusing or outright unnecessary and the community is a hot mess. So I just thought one day, “why do I still play the isle? There’s nothing I really gain anymore from playing it other than frustration, so why keep playing it?” And so I left it for POT (a decision I only partially regret only because the community isn’t much better)

The sitting down simulator

also there has been a rivalry about pot and the isle community, i will say something, pot and the isle are for 2 different playstiles, like, one is an mmo and the other is a survival horror game

Watching the GamingBeaver suffer in this game was the highlight of my childhood, I'm so sad about how painful it is to play the game

The main issue is they talk about so many things coming, and I recognize its a small dev team, but how many months does it take to buff stamina regen?? And how many YEARS does it take to buff the Ptera at ALL?

I was excited for evrima, but gave up on it entirely very quickly. As someone who doesn't use discord or have a dedicated group to play with, besides constantly being lost and starving, or getting murdered while trying to drink, it was the simple boredom and loneliness as there is no global chat. I have to avoid all players in order to avoid losing a dinosaur that I spent hours growing, no one nests in this game, so there was absolutely nothing to do there for me, and so I still stick with the legacy version to this day just because I can chat with people or ask for someone to sit around with or get nested. The realism was also getting on my nerves too, constantly being sick or hallucinating because I tried not to starve to death and ate the first thing edible to an herbivore.

Amazing video! I'm glad I got this recommended :) Even though I love Isle, these new changes have made me to turn away from the game and play other dino games that are more enjoyable atm. The Isle just makes my anxiety to spike, you have to worry about so many things while playing and with new growth times, I just don't feel like wasting many hours to grow something when I can lose it in fraction of that time. Afterthought really needs to start listening more of the community or The Isle will fall eventually and that would be sad thing to see.

this was such a funny vid. i loved the lethal company part! thank you for speaking honestly but not harshly :)

The outrage and discourse is bad, but shows the passion the players have because many see the potential this game clearly holds. We believe it is special and we want to see it succeed :^)

Bro got us with the bait n switch, and then he got us with the bait n switch

I genuinely hadn't thought about the isle for rougjly six months til I saw this. Glad to see all the reasons I stopped playing are just as prevalent. It's such a shame, this community introduced me to a bunch of my friends.

The biggest problem is that Dondi will randomly decide the camera system is shit (for no apparent reason), then spend 3 years implementing patches and the new camera system while the players and community starve of dinosaur variety. I remember when Evirma released it was good, but then 3 damn years of nothing because they decided to change and update everything about the game before they considered adding more dinosaurs, more maps, etc.

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For me, The Isle was good before because it was incredibly social and things were always happening. Giant herds roamed the map, there were smaller playables running up to people with the express purpose of seeking attention, the ambiance was bussling with all sorts of species vocalizing, and the most important part, the chat system. God it felt like something was happening at all times in Legacy. Legacy was buggy and simplistic as hell, and Evrima is leagues better; but Evrima is desolate and lonely, its not fun to play because you cant interact with anybody unless you happen to find another member of your species, its a depressing experience walking through the jungles and grasslands by yourself for long periods of time.

A well summarized and thought out video, good work my friend

Your editing has gotten so good man keep it up, honestly you could definitely become a huge discussion creator without having to stick to this Dino sim trap that all of us other RU-vidrs are stuck in lol. Great video!!!

Genuinely love this video. Summarizes a lot of my own thoughts on the community and game alike without leaning into any terrible extreme and being a rational person the whole way through. Thank you!

Man this production quality is STELLAR! And I appreciate that you actually respect The Isle and its developers by maintaining a central stance and not praising nor loathing the game and its developers. I respect your decision to do that and I respect you, you have gained a loyal (and defiant) subscriber!

its sad that anymore youtubers whom are true to the original form of content making are so rare to find people like you fisher are so rare to find anymore

Masterfully edited as always

Great video man probably the best Isle video I’ve seen in a while.

The soon reference at the beginning hit hard

My friend begged me to get this game and play it with her, since i play other dinosaur/creature survival games. So i got it to try it out, after playing for about 10 hours it got insanely boring, growing is such a pain and all that time goes to waste because of a pack of kosing rexes or something. I even found BoB more fun when i got it while i was sick and played it for a few hours 💀

the music at the end is so beautiful..... this video is amazing. best isle commentary.

i couldn't stop laughing throughout this whole video. excellent video man seriously. id watch a video u make no matter the subject just because of how well put together your format is

900 years in and still loving every second and the amount of work poured into the game

Honestly, I haven't been able to play the Evrima branch for over a year since the Hatchling and skin update came out. And it honestly looks like I'm still not missing out on anything.

Ive never played the isle, but ive always enjoyed watching thegamingbeaver play it. and yes, definitely the immersion is very good, the game is also hourworth of growing and all, which makes it evermore frustating when you play, then die.

I remember picking up this game cause I thought it looked really fun and cool, the main issue is that although it is fun to get big, it takes WAAAAAAYYYYYYY to long to do anything, and the hunger/thirst system kinda sucks, and when you lose... you lose

Bro I love this game to bits, and I'd hate to see the game fall at the hands of an overly toxic community. But I'm positive that it's gonna change

i didnt even know this game existed but i got recommended the video anyways, so here i am, it was very good, explains a lot of things to the devs if they watch the video too, hopefully the game grows well

First time finding your channel and its amazing I can’t wait to see you grow

Great video, Keep it up, youll get more subs.

I’ve done the equivalent of going on strike for the game due to some of the changes, mostly since the idea of the camera changes genuinely made me realize that this would make my main (teno) completely and utterly unplayable over others, you can barely see behind you, so how’s it gonna feel for the Dino that is only effective when it’s enemies are behind it? Also I kinda hate gateway almost entirely because I’ve died to cliffs more often than I’ve seen other players. And also because I lost the healthbar

The isle olden days were the best man

great video, I never played this game but your video sure made me curious.

Hey, I got this video in my reccomended and it was a great watch; I watched it twice actually. Sometimes I'd see The Isle on the Steam front page and while the game looked pretty it always looked off. I guess I trusted my gut in not getting it. I played a lot of Team Fortress 2 during covid and the game was in a rough spot. Cheaters a-plenty, bot accounts in droves, exploits of course, and annoying weapons that needed to be rebalanced (mainly just the scorch shot). What did Valve do during this massive player influx with all these issues? Nothing. Just seasonal updates with new cosmetics, that was it. There was some small updates to "combat" the bot accounts. The updates were like a kid holding the flashlight for dad; sure it helped, somewhat, but doesn't really do much. They basically abandoned the game; but as divided as the TF2 community is, it still thrives. This game though, this is somehow worse than the TF2 dev team. Instead of doing nothing, they're actively harming the game. I saw some other videos about this game and Dondi and wow, it's shocking to me that the game isn't a lower rating score. Your game's lead dev genuinly sounds like a egotistical moron. Best of luck to you guys. Even though I am not part of this game's community, I hope you guys get a fun game in the end.

I played The Isle a few times because it was the only way i could hang out with her lol. It was pretty fun, but i agree with most of this video. It needs a lot of work

i remember watching the gaming beaver's videos on the isle...this isnt A dinosaur game this is THE dinosaur game

Yo some really good visuals in this video

As someone who has played isle from the day it came to steam until stopping 3-ish years ago, the problem is with Dondi and his echo chamber. The only notable thing that other comments haven't brought up is the cheating issue. Some people use programs to turn everything a certain color to see in the dark, a friend admitted to me last year that they had a shader to turn everything pink to see far longer than the average player, specifically at night. I've also heard reports of people using some method to lag other players to kill them easier. Just stay away from dino sim games. Unless you can tolerate the same basic, boring gameplay for 9+ hours and a community that essentially is 2b2t-lite then have fun. Oh, and don't look into the grooming and ped problem unless you want brain rot. But if you want to bite that bullet, SidAlpha has some pretty interesting videos on that.

I do. I very much hope for the isle to succeed this game is too beautiful to fail.😊😊

Im a the isle fan and player and i just loved this video, it has been a while since i dint play or check the discord because i dont have a computer anymore and i dont use ny cellphone alot, and this updated me alot on what is happening and i understand alot tthe reasons here! The game is really good but ofc, as any games they have their down sides.

I love this game. Super valid criticism and a great video! Hope the isle keeps growing from here and doesn’t die by falling off a 4cm ledge.

Exceptional video! This perfectly summs up the status of the isle as of current. I will admit ive been seeing that the isle is just becoming increasingly more difficult to play in both pvp and casual. Pvp is getting more and more finicky with the stamina changes and the game is just becoming more difficult to enjoy overall. I do have hope for the game but i feel as though the developers should really just focus on the content not unessacary changes that 90% of poeple didnt even consider asking for. Right now i feel like Path of Titans is a better option than isle but all isle really needs is one GOOD content packed update to really make the game fun again

🙋‍♀️ I really like this game, it’s one of my favourite! 🦖 But I do agree that there could me some modifications to improve it or rather improve the „gaming-experience“ like more ai so you can actually survive as a lone juvi💀 for example. And an in-game Voice chat & stuff🦕 Edit: Oh and I wanna add that I think your points are all valid, they definitely need some work, some more some less, but your summary was great👍

12:28 idk y this had me giggling 😂

Thanks for making my dog bark with that knock sound effect

Sometimes I feel like the devs haven’t actually played the game at all lol

Real life sucks. That's why we play video games. Make a game too realistic, and we might as well go outside.

I remember watching IGP play this, no idea people hated it this much.

Very nice video!

Video: The Isle RU-vid: Dinosaur Game

The devs just blatantly leading people on with "super hulk apex dino's!" and "human gameplay with tech tree!" And people obviously want both of those in the game. So people just *imagine* 30+ dudes riding 12 Humvee's with machine guns vs a dinosaur big as your mom.

I remember the time, when The Isle was fun. Running around as a dinosaur on that weird alpha-maps, with that sea, where everyone was. That time, you had to start as an Austroraptor. I don't know if that animal is in the game these days. Or this giant forest-map, where you had to run for hours to find your buddy. That was shortly before they introduced the Hyperendocrine BS. I loved it to walk around the blackforest-ish area as an Allosaurus, nervous to meet others. I made friends as an Austroraptor, and we annoyed the Rexes. I was in a Twitch-livestream and we herded around and it was amazing to see my Dinosaur do things on Twitch. I was young and happy, new things had a feel of wonder to it. I remember then, that the dev of the isle made some weird business decisions. Everyone was hating him for it. Dondy was his name, I guess. That's the time I left the isle. It was a nice summer memory. But the search for the friends on the way too vast maps, the constant death through starvation, and later the Hyperendocrine horrormonster gave me the feeling of emptiness. Then the maps changed again. And again. My favorite parts dissappeared for a more streamlined concept. More monsters. Humans. The rest, never improved. The scandals behind the development. I turned my back on the isle. At the end, everything changes. And old memories of sunny mornings on the couch, hunting together as a small raptor pack, friends and strangers together, united through a rudimentary chatbox... dissappear. The isle isn't, what it was. What it used to be. I see the modern iteration. And I know, I will never come back to it.

I first found out about The Isle in middle school as well, and it was TheGamingBeaver who introduced it to me. Genuinely amazed with how gorgeous the game is, but I do agree that it's just hard to play sometimes

also when is part 2 of your the isle horror story i need it

Wish i had a pc to play the isle 🥲

the reason for me is actually that i feel addicted to fighting in the isle, even if its so basic

bro, ur disclaimer at ruffly one minute killed me

The Isle, a game I once considered purchasing but I am glad I held off on as it does generally suck in general and the devs are indeed pretty hostile. Another game I did glance at far more was beast of bermuda where carnivores are separated in fish, carrion, and fresh meat, for herbivores it can be fruit, grass or leaves. Also at some point I heard that not only can you walk on land but live in the water, in the air or if you really enjoy minecraft and a miner, you can live as a borrowing species that makes underground hovels and warrens. Of course sometimes Nature will have her time of the month thus you have to rethink your current situation such as monsoons. the only one I can recall. Though last I heard, the game is still under heavy work in progress.

I honestly believe that the situation would be much better if we as a community would behave with more understanding and compassion towards eachother. This does not mean blindly accepting changes that are being made to the game but to voice our thoughts in a more kinder way. The developers have no reason to make the game into something no one wants to play and there will always be people dissapointed in the changes made for the game. I´m extremely thankful for the developers that they have made this special game and I have personally had great playthroughs in the game that are unforgettable. If we could all remember the good times and focus on what is good both now and going forward I think The Isle can truly become a magnificient game.

I pretty much gave up on The Isle since each update there are more and more problems that occur. Now I can´t even launch the game itself due to "disk write error" and the only advise from the troubleshooting team was to "look it up on RU-vid or something".

I played this game for awhile but gave up just before the Gateway update. I was having performance issues that I couldn’t fix no matter what I did. And now my game is running Baldurs Gate 3 on default settings, which proves that it was just the Isle being poorly optimized. But even despite those issues I still enjoyed the game. But now I have zero interest in returning to it because everything I’ve seen about all the changes just sounds like they’ve made a worse game than they already have, without adding anything significant. Instead of addressing real issues the game has, like the aforementioned performance or fleshing out the gameplay loop, they’re trying to fix problems that aren’t even problems to the point that the games becoming unplayable. Pteranodon was my go to dino back when I’d play it, but now they’ve completely nuked my bird with the changes to stamina and food. Why would I play a game the developers seem to be actively trying to destroy when I could go play any number of games that are much more fun and much more stable.

yo

I was banned for making a deez nuts joke btw. Two fucking months. No warnings or prior marks to my name. Two months. All because I made a deez nuts joke responding to someone who had been obnoxious to various members of the community. I’m actually quite happy though as leaving that discord server and putting “game poopa stinka” in my “appeal” was freeing.

i just found this channel. i like it

the games beautiful, intense, and one of a kind. the games ALSO in a black screen 50% of the time, glitching out, or lost around the map because for some reason after all this time....we have not even a minimap to guide us. Just gotta keep alt-tabbing and copy pasting coords.

As someone who plays Path of Titans, I feel like the Isle community is ungrateful of their platform. I wish I could play it but I’m on PlayStation. Not every camera angle has to be changed for each Dino but looking at the pictures they used in the example, I actually love the fear that side view of a trex ambushing brings! It’s exhilarating. That’s the point of a survival game. In PoT when I’m on a smaller carni or herbi , if I hear a crack, I pan around quick and see the big ol clunky Rex in the distance. Then I just run off. Only the smaller carni can truly ambush, causing the big Dino’s to be in the flat areas basically just pvpn each other. This isn’t Jurassic park where you create a park and everyone lives happily, this a Dino survival game, eat, get ate, run or stand your ground. Stop killing the genre.

WIP.. there is a reason The Isle is the most immersive Dino game, it actually tries stuff out, does NOT try to be a cookie cutter Dino sim, and by trying stuff out you will inevitably try stuff that doesn't work, it's part of the creative process, being too afraid to try things because of 'negative" feedback can have the less than ideal effect of stagnating development to produce something sadly that looks like all other Dino sims.. nice video btw :)

0:25 - 0:47 Major Lemmino vibes. I thought I was watching him investigating Isle lmao

I remember Soviet Womble’s video essay about this. That’s pretty good too.

People have thousands of hours when they paid $20, if you’re bored of the game it might not be the devs or gameplay you might’ve just gotten bored of it, go play something else if you’re so damn toxic (this is for the doomers who constantly shit on the devs yet still waste their life on the game they hate so much)

Well this has made me extremely hesitant to buy. Sorry, 8 year old Discount, the search for a dino game continues.

When you find yourself in the Cambrian: "Mama mia!"

Btw two of the more kinder devs have said (it wasn't backpedaling just dondi and kissen missing our point on questions) that the camera idea was an experimental concept and would not be coming in that exact way.

The isle is if you want realism