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And if they did indeed grow up in black spaces and in the culture they would understand why what they’re doing, the way they’re doing it is seen as a problem.
It's generational. I'm 47 and from Oakland, and even in MY generation, Asians, Polynesians and Hispanics said it, and not much long after, wyte folk were definitely saying it in limited spaces. I actually blame US for letting it get to this point. But I talk to a young black person about it, they'll look at ME crazy...
The audacity of her to say everybody in Oakland uses that word not even knowing the history of Oakland being the home of the Black panthers fighting against her kind . how ironic for her to even say that dumb shit and the sellouts that enable her to feel comfortable saying it .
@@dogsandyoga1743I’m from the bay as well. It seems to be the culture here to be “down with the brown” and mimic what African Americans are doing. But that’s the thing it’s just mimicking, what they use as a base to mimic off of is their ideal of what they think Black ppl act/talk like. I’m 18 and lemme tell you there’s barely any Black ppl here anymore and if we’re here we usually try to stick to our groups!!
what she mean is at that time every rapper , producer and label were looking for the next big white woman act as the next big thing, since main stream consumers was eating it up online their albums were not selling but the media buzz was too strong. remember the majority of album sells then and now are bought by white people and they spend a shit ton of money on the concerts so there is a market. every one knew it was just a matter of time before they found some raw talent. no one pay any attention to black woman unless you were already famous then. in the music industry that's the way it has always been its a joke to the culture as a whole until you come across someone like Eminem or Post Malone and sell millions of records. but yeah she was not best rapper but her friends kept the spot light on white woman at the time.and all the record company's ever care about is what's trending now.
For every “culture vulture” is a black team or manager behind them telling them it’s okay.. a lot of these dudes be writing these lyrics for them “n word” and all.. **cough cough** Tyga
That was the best thing that ever happened is all the culture vultures disappeared. The fact that Iggy Gave herself a black accent when she was from Australia was the icing on the cake.
Iggy is garbage. Australian hip hop has its own accent that's nothing like a black accent. She could have used the Aussie hip hop accent, but she used a black accent to make herself popular
I'm so excited about it I'm very proud of her and Ice Spice that's makes it easier for a change in rap music I would like them to be able to take over our rap music because it's going down hill anyway so what not let them change it for the better I really hope Ice Spice help them change the rap game
U can say the same thing with these black women cosigning these white men who are acting as black look how many black women with cosign the white guy who played as faz on euphoria and that white rapper that Lil Nas X had on his music video
tumblr era definitely pushed the non black girl- heavy eyeliner - grills - loud lipstick with no liner aesthetic. they all have no longevity for a reason lol
this. they all had that tumblr aesthetic. l remember around the time that 212 was getting a lot of buzz on tumblr that a particular side of tumblr was pushing Iggy’s mixtape single. The kreashawns and iggy’s were just place holders in rap, they couldn’t compete w Nicki
@@dusthymn8187nah dude, just cuz ure hearing these conversations now doesnt mean its all chronically online behaviour, ure just deeply ignorant. Since esp in music publications and academic circles there has always been talks of cultural appropriation and racial dynamics playing into careers and lives of people and styles.
Hip Hop is extremely respected and goes deep in the punk rock culture. Even in the early 80s. There's not a true punk rocker alive that doesn't worship wu-tang. Also we love a lot of indy hip hop luke Mighty Underdogs. We consider hip hop to be punk rock not in sound but in heart. Anti establishment and DIY. However most punks also greatly respect black culture, and stay in their lane so im not defending anyone here. I just feel like thats a little tidbit a lot of people not in punk culture truly don't know.
I mean a part of punk culture is literally beating the shit out racists, nazis etc. they ARE NOT welcome in punk spaces. Skinheads are different than punks yet adopt punk style. Nope we'd never say the N word! Allies! But anyway I didn't know that about her mom.
As a mixed girl who’s white passing the Kylie Jenner/Iggy type white girls who cosplay as black say very derogatory nasty things about black girls behind closed doors. It’s the white girls that are Emo/Alt who really appreciate & stand up for black girls w/o appropriating.
@@ericaj4494 I’m just speaking off how white girls act when they think I’m one of them. The guys surprisingly don’t randomly bring up race, but the girls can say things so vile it’s scary realizing ppl hold that much distain for strangers bc of skin color. I want to say racism is a mental illness.
@@ericaj4494I find its the ones who are pretenders and only copy that aesthetic/join those groups because they are outcasts from everyone else. They have a lot of anger and will try to punch down when they can especially in small towns. The ones who do it sincerely are more real as they are willing to genuinely forgo societal expectations.
@Dovelunalove A lot of the hatred and Visceral comes from their jealousy of black women. Black women are beautiful and set the trends and are mimicked the most
It’s always a brotha present when shenanigans like this is taking place, allowing it. But let us say something about one of them and it’s “you can’t really say that, cause……”
@@foxylady6901 idk if you’re black or not but it’s just a common descriptor for black men by other black people. It’s a bit antiquated, but most things I say are.
I hate how black men were pushing for that aesthetic to be on the mainstream knowing how hard it was for black women to be included in these spaces. During that era, Nicki Minaj was always criticized for her appearance and loud personality but the media never had the same energy when Miley Cyrus did the same thing.
Miley was a whole laughing stock wtf you talking about? Do you not remember her getting COOKED after she performed with Robin Thicke? Bart Baker made a whole parody clowning her for acting the way she was, Missy Elliott called her out in WTF... Miley went thro her embarrassing wigga stage in front of the world and the whole world laughed. And Iggy got shoved out of hip hop for her "blaccent" and TI took a lot of heat for putting her on in the first place.
“Make” Kylie Jenner? I’m not even a fan, but be serious…Kylie would still be well off without dating Tyga. She is literally a family member of the “Kardashian/Jenners”
@@user-dh5rb4xi7t didn't he start off in the hardcore scene? it was like a reverse mgk situation lmao he didn't get a ton of traction in rock and moved to hip hop
I was never a fan of Kreayshawn, but I didn’t like the way she caught so much flak for saying the n word when V Nasty was the one who was saying it. I remember seeing people go off over it, making themselves look stupid. People loved to talk about Kreayshawn saying the n word despite her not actually ever having said it.
What they thought SOME black behavior was like. Kind of like little girls basically twerkinng to Sexyy red because they think that’s what older women do.
As soon as I saw Post Malone I SCREAMED because I have been saying this for years! “White Iverson” was directly targeted to black audiences and was heavily played on our stations. He was all up in the mix, but then he made “Sunflower”, got the mainstream exposure, and now he’s singing the Star Spangled Banner with a guitar and boots. It’s hilarious how people don’t see it for him as easily as Miley or Iggy.
The fact that Azealia Banks and Iggy Azalea debuted around the same time and XXL still chose to go with Igloo for the Freshman 15 smh… That’s why she’s always mad at the industry and I get it tbh
I remember Azealia Banks came out first and she was blowing up! and then I don't know what happened. She got into beef with Iggy Azalea and then all of a sudden Azealia Banks disappeared
this video is proof that the world wouldn't know what to do without African American Culture..we created genres of music that constantly get taken and discredit cause when Iggy said why dont black American sing country...not knowing we created country is craxy
@@sr-kt9ml saying that black people view thing through racial lenses on a video that’s about race lets me know how ignorant you truely are. Ps go read a history book and use Google while it’s free.
Yeah country came from African folk but also Irish and European folk and Appalachian and African American and Mexican music as well. It wasn’t purely a black creation like some other genres. But I get your point
That part 🥴Honey Cocaine was delusionally smashing Tyga which resulted in nothing but dust and disappointment she has old videos that black men posted back in the day when she had a little buzz where she’s so called battling an unambiguous black woman hurling cliche/boring weave insults. The last I heard she was crying about her so called best friend (Tyga) falling for a ho (her words not mine ) blac Chyna it was giving hater 🥴
Agreed. I was too busy dealing w/ school. I heard of her after she started dropping off. I would've made her address why she felt the need to use the N-Word and she has no blk in her at all. I'm multi-generationally mixed black so I can go there if necessary but I don't understand those who do it just ...... "because" without a trace of blk in them. it's like performative blkness is I can' tdeal with that. I stand on business. "Those types of WW" only hangout with certain BM and BW that let them get away with it.
Check out the videos and general discussions online about Tim Westwood being a long-term sexual predator - then you'll understand why he'd ask something so out-of-place. He's another culture vulture.
@@arizonaFIREentyou know your life is better when you are bothered by people getting mad at people who use words they don't like. Also those words are slurs, and not just words. Y'all are so annoying
@@goodvibes-rx7qe she was damn near black fishing. lol her friends probably thought she was mixed until she got in the white girl mob. It’s a lot of mixed race people out here and no one is really fact checking if you’re “black” or not.
Im not surprised. And V Nasty wasnt lying either. I grew up in the Bay Area and white people, asians, filipinos, mexicans and even indians say nigga. And we as black folks allow that shit to happen. Its annoying.
“I didn’t know people were offended by the n-word” the fact that you won’t even say it in the interview tells me you were well aware you should not be saying that shit 🤣😮💨🙈
Most be wanting to sound hard, but really not about it. Just be making loud barks; I used to be that way all bark once my brother told me if you gonna be bark you have to be bite. Also, learn take a bite.
The funniest part is most of the time this people don’t even have talent! Their bars are mid, they have no flow, no good rhymes, they can’t even get a good beat going and their style is lame. How they get famous is beyond me.
There was a lull/vacuum in the industry when it came to female rappers. They were riding off the mainstream success of Missy, who was sick and Eve, who transitioned to acting. Tumblr gave them some buzz and bc of their “marketability”, huge machines got behind them. Once Nicki’s career took off, none of them could compete.
80% of rap is listened to by suburban white teenagers. Many of them are the same people that listen to Taylor Swift and can't clap to the beat. Many label execs try to see what that audience likes, because they don't know until somebody becomes popular and they they pile on a bunch of clones.
The late 2000s-2010s was a time indeed. You had rappers like Drake, J-Cole, Kendrick Lamar and ASAP Rocky leading a mini-Golden Age of Hip-Hop while simultaneously you had fools like Kreayshawn and V-Nasty releasing garbage. 2008-2015 was a time indeed.
Bro I was still a whole during that era and i only started listening to hip hop in the 7th grade when one of my friends at the time put me on to future, young thug, and kanye west
They don’t grow up in white homes 🏡 to know. WW also is a part of the billions dollar beauty industry. 😊 is pure ignorance. ---- what I don’t appreciate is them roasting BW on social media back. Now I have answered if my hair is real with white people in the office. 🤔ℹ️ I don’t see no pushback of the BBC stereotypes? And that is the treasonous part. Where that demographic created new harmful stereotypes after 1900s. Wtf!???
Just throwing it out there that I grew up in the Bay Area also and its a problem.. HOWEVER I know multiple black women who hung out with white girls or Mexican girls who let them say nigga. But also youre not wrong. We allow everyone to say it and do a poor job of checking people on it. Especially in the 925
“Iggy Azalea is like my random albino child that I randomly gave birth to in the centre of an African village during Pangea. I was scared by her Albanism so I wrapped her in a Malanga leaf and hid her in a cave miles away from the village” - Azealia Banks, Philosopher
The vultures in this video also had black women supporting them - happily appearing in their videos, allowing them to use their children as mascots, performing as their dancers during live sets and collaborating as vocalists. Iggy Azalea had Jennifer Hudson and Keyshia Cole - among others, working with her. This isn't just on us...
Tbh i wouldn't know of this era for I was still a kid still in grade school, watching pbs kids, just living a very secluded & small toen life until I moved to LA and got in middle where i then started being shown/introduced to certain which now have stuck wit me even to my adult years
Not a fan of Kraeyshawn but I always thought her and Lil Debbie were the same person and wondered why she had two versions of herself in that Gucci Gucci video 😂
I'm confused , are you saying black culture is just ghetto. So if a black person talks clear English is he trying to be white ? In the uk kids in the street come from families that are from all over the world, the street vernacular and mannerisms aren't considered black but street , just as east London had cockney slang , which west/ north/ south Londoners talked like, but they weren't considered trying to be east Londoners. Its confusing, guns are white culture, the porn/stripper culture is white American, the obsession with money and designer clothes is white American culture , so alot of rap has the most white American culture influences in it.
@@TheJoker-um9tpstop acting branding new and acting politically correct. American ghetto. If people in the u.k are talking like they're from the streets. They got it from America. Because there's a certain frequency they're trying to mimic and emulate which came from America. They're not talking like their parents. They're mimicking what they hear on TV and film and the music they listen to which is AMERICAN. Our ghetto shit! Nit yours babby 😂
@@TheJoker-um9tpstop acting brand new and trying to be PC because it applies to you now. The u.k streets are not the same as the American streets. Your slang is not the same as ours. And its our culture that you copy and steal- its our wave that you people ride- which is not yours. Those kids not are talking like their parents "who come from all over the world 😂a.k.a America!😂" They're just copying what they see on tv and the music they listen to which comes from America. If there's any ghetto culture happening in the u.k. you already know where you got it from. So save the revisionist history. How Christopher Columbus of you 😂
@@TheJoker-um9tp why do you assume that black is associated with ghetto 🤔? She literally was dressing in jerseys, jays and featured in hip hop songs, being something she wasn't. You should question your own bias as to why your 1st thought was black=ghetto?
But growing up in this era, being really young, me and my friends loved Honey Cocaine and White Girl Mob. Obviously, as grown black woman now, I see more of the problem. But when I was like 13 listening to this, I was ayeeeeeee this goooo 😂
This is why I stopped messing with rap. Yall be letting anybody get popular and let the wrong people in. We went from clowing people like Vanilla Ice to ya'll gasin up and backing up these con artist.
Its the millennium culture unfortunately that has endorsed these interlopers/ culture vultures or whatever you want to call them . The previous generations were definitely not as comfortable with their presence around and were fighting for hip hop
To be fair, it makes sense that she put on an accent since any hip hop not from black Americans is appropriation. All Australian hip hop is imitating African American hip hop. Like Kpop 😅
Black men in the industry blocked her. 2000 to 2020 = was a blocked era. Whites or Biracial had open doors 🚪 to rap or R&B. -- - - - The reason it became a problem is when black men realized. White and biracial males were now walking in that same 🚪 door. ❤ it’s like the NBA draft for the last 5 years 😂😂. They stayed mad it’s only white and biracials …… but they created that opening!!!
Yeah its our fault for everything what else is new this is why we don't put up with yall bullshit anymore... plenty of BW in this comment section saying they liked this type of music but carry on..
@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBII think women keep saying this because most of these girls were signed by black men, black rappers specifically. They intentionally signed them, put them on songs with them, in videos and let them say “nigga” and appropriate black culture. By doing this they condoned it and lowkey encouraged it. Not all black men condoned it, (I loved seeing the many black men speak out about it in the video) but these rappers who signed them gave them a platform to continue to do it. They are partly responsible
@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBIi mean you guys damn us if we do or dont for everything.... We cant stand them then we are jealous if we like them then we are the problem for embracing the behavior.... Yeah and its plenty of bw who arent wasting their time with bm because we never wanted to begin with so yes please carry on.....
Soon as the accountability came up... Kreyshawn: "I feel uncomfortable" There's such a history to that statement of the big black man hurting the innocent little white women
I saw Honey Cocaine weird ahh and thought this was gonna mention her situation with Freddy. I feel like she disappeared after that because of the backlash she got behind him un-aliving himself after she pretty much taunted him on Twitter for not believing he was serious about wanting to unalive himself. RIP Freddy
As soon as she could just throw her girl under the bus and could weasel her way out. I’m glad he called her on but it was sickening to sit there and say she has to get taxis for her manager. She isn’t THAT tone def…
Watch any linguistic specialist and they will tell you why many people outside of America adapt American accents, especially "Blaccents" when they sing or perform music styles that were created in the USA. First off, the USA is a global cultural beacon that pushes our music and media into other countries for profit. So other countries' kids grow up singing our ,music, with or without the context. When they do, they sing to the flow of it, which means they have to develop the accent of the singer in order for it to sound correct. We learn to sing by practicing songs we're familiar with, and that forms how we sing a genre. It's the same effect when I, a whole Black American, starts singing Spice Girls' Wannabe. I suddenly start to sound British. And when I try to sing the song in my normal accent, it doesn't seem to come out right or natural. It's the same if I try to sing opera; I will sound Italian, because most classical operas are Italian and we're used to hearing it sang that way. This is because sound is sensitive. Because majority of modern day music is created in the USA, and by Black people, those overseas adapt the accent to sing it "properly". The ear is training the mouth. The issue with the entire thing is that Black people need to stop pushing the music and the culture out without laying down the context and social-cultural morale. This also applies to people who are not Black but decide to listen to a Black person's song. I heard a nurse sing Beyonce's newest song and, of course, she couldn't help picking up the Blaccent to sing it. We can't sell the culture through records and not expect other cultures to pick it up. We need to be smarter and more diligent about the change we want to see in the industry, and that starts with what we give the world. We need to stop using the n-word in the music we are selling to other cultures and only use it with our own. WE need to show THEM we're serious about this. But we don't. We need to separate the difference between a sensitive linguistic persona, set people raised among Black people aside and remind them what their status and place is in society, and educate them on why they can't use the n-word with more than "because you're white".
When you said Iggy is a white girl that could really rap I HOLLERED 💀💀💀 Edited: in no way am I rebuttaling, I just find it hilarious. Period. She can be better than all the other vultures but can she *really* rap? 🙂
I’m glad that Iggy has moved onto other endeavours instead of rapping. And also glad she moved on from her relationship with Playboi Carti (who treated her like crap btw)
Thank you so much for this! I had an idea that the folks in this video weren't the best but now I know. Didn't Igloo Australia have a fairly large falling out/beef with T.I.?
Being a black girl in high school during this era, was a wild ass time😂 crazy to think that class of 2016 was almost a decade ago, and how much has shifted since then.
I'm full black & went to H.S. in the 90s. You think it's all good having different friends of different races. Then I started seeing how non-Blacks will drain everything about you, started using the "n" word, want to "talk Black"/"act Black," get pregnant by all the Black men, then turn around & make fun of Black girls. Call them nappy headed & ugly. The Black males allowed it, & never stuck up for us...40 years old, will never have a white female "friend" again...🙄🙄
Ironic how it's the female culture vultures that have taken the brunt of being dismissed from fame and success, yet all the men have still been around to appropriate, be supported, and co-signed for another day.
One thing about these days is that a lot of people is raised off different music like a post Malone who probably did rap out of fun and got blown up off of rap but his roots is country and rock and he never hid that so they branch out to other music. That’s why I hate barriers on music . Same with black people just because you rap but if you got the talent to make other music you shouldn’t be afraid to try it
