The Division | Why I Won't Use Classified Tactician | Patch 1.8 

When he sees the light he will kno da wae xD

That makes two of us

Random Guy01 same I'm still going to get it

Make it three... I just put it together and marco sums up what pisses me off about this set. Its not useless, but these mechanics force you to play in a way in which you don't really want to... I tried playing around with seekermines and sticky bomb, damage is okay and these are also skills I think you can juggle around somewhat well. Maybe I'm also not "used" to the set enough, only time will tell.

thetute59 I’ve been using tactician I like it to be fair.... I’m glad my heals take me from no health to overheal even without vigorous.... my seekers are putting in deadly work also.... plus it’s better than rolling everything on stamina and being the same as every other build also obviously can but I don’t think tact is made for dz it’s for missions and me personally don’t think there’s a better build... I can only shot one person at a time, my seekers hit multiple with the bleed that’s deadly, plus it’s good when a grenadier hits you, you can fire your bomb (sticky) back at them lol

thetute59 Yeah, I’ve seen people do that also. Seems pretty good. I just like being a healer and using that set for it

Would it make sense for the skillbuild efficianado to run a 6/7k ele (450k sp with 60 stacks) and rather have some survivability? Just spitballing, I know the stacks will then be RNG. But it seems the reality is like you and marco says, there is no point increasing it above 450k

I thought that at first, but I think you lose some extra utility from high-end gear that way as well. The 5% skill haste and skill power can be obtained other ways (Barrett's 10%, Inventive's 10% for example or skill haste mods) and the 30 then 60 bullets from a tact build is a big ask and I don't think will be practical especially in a PvP build. It could work in PvE depending on the skills you're trying to run, but as you said it then becomes RNG.

THECONCEALEDGAM3R I agree, I was away during that global event so I'm getting destroyed by striker in dark zone and it's real frustrating.

THECONCEALEDGAM3R maybe with all the nubs

I think Alpha Bridge is the only set that might be competitive for PVE purposes. Else I totally agree.

Maybe in PvP but for those that don’t base all their opinions on how things work in PvP and nowhere else the new Classifieds aren’t underwhelming, at least not Firecrest & Tactician.

THECONCEALEDGAM3R Alright so yes these build might be underwhelming but these are more tactical builds. Using nomad , pred , and strikers are just used to face tank for damage and yes, youd lose. The division isnt a face tank type of game. It’s pure strategy. Using cover, tactically advancing using other skills rather than a simple med station and whoever knows what you might run. Any build can beat any build. For example I use D3-Fnc and yes some strikers might beat me if they cheese the shield but in most cases I win with the dub.

Totally agree

And also damage made with other skills have to stack, not only the turret.

Honestly I like what they did to tacticians bc we didn't need another skill one shot meta. Predators bleed can be annoying so I get the complaints with this meta. Nomad is quite annoying too but easy to defeat. Just takes quite a while sometimes. At times when it's really bad in the dz I switch to my final measure edr build. I run 5 piece classified final measure and a rehabilitated mask. I build mostly into stamina with it to be tanky and lots of EDR. The reason I mostly go into stamina tho is bc the skills that give you health back based on a % is better with the more stamina you have. So by running lots of stamina and EDR most predators bleed heal me instead of hurt me. But that is rare to happen. Me and my squad try and run in front of each other a lot to stop the predators from being activated. If you are constantly playing close together and running in front of bullets they will have a hard time being able to put a bleed on you. My point is there are lots of things you can do to counter things in this meta (except strikers lol). There wasn't shit to counter the tanktician meta. The airburst seeker meta in 1.6 was aweful too. I could spec into edr and have more stamina (which was aweful in 1.6) and I would still die in 1 airburst seeker mine. So I'm content with the way 1.8 is. Kinda wish hunters faith was better. And the medved actually was useful but I really have no big gripe with the game right now

Nah, massive gonna keep it liek this and nerf Striker and Nomad given from past experience

Get rid of #2 and i agree

1xxvipxx1 interesting but it sounds situational

I was thinking about this too. 6k electronics 6k FA; still 80% chance to reset to 30% SP and you’re not useless when skills are on CD. You also won’t hit the SP diminish return so that 60% SP buff is actually useful.

I'm running 7.3kFA 3.1KStam 5.5kElct

iKozilek can you tell me how it is in action

iKozilek why not have 500 more elec for that extra proc chance? That’s only two elec mods

Lou R you bet

yeah even with low skill power firecrest can put out a lot of cc. but mdr sucks in pvp

Oh and another thing I think the 4 piece with vig and inventive is very worth it if you have a secondary healer to keep you alive, I use it with my team with a defib and crit damage pulse when I get 30 stacks plus talented I'm pulsing for around 65 crit damage and 49 crit chance for my team plus the 10% damage from the pulse mod

George Branham well in my opinion if you have a high sp pulse then you and only you should be running pulse and be using the concealed mod. But if you do want to use 2 then have the low SP pulse be popped first and then pop yours.

Daniel Mc Oh yeah, 3 piece Tac and a Two Piece Firecrest - I used that, but I was waiting for the Classifieds. Sticky Bomb or Seeker / Fire Turret with those two is GREAT, specially if u have a good group. And u can easily solo Legendary missions too.

I was going to suggest a firecrest tac combo also just slightly different. 2 pc of both tac and firecrest, ninja bag, and barret chest. Haven't tried that combo yet but in 1.6 I ran the 3 pc tac fire combo and it was a great great but somewhat lazy pve build and a troll build for pvp as nothing could reach you to kill you and the seeker fire turret combo was ruthless. Only reason I suggested barret chest was for a little extra skill power at baseline. If you plan to run with a heal other than overdose however I would say switch barret for vigerous. I have a tac build right now with inventive backpack, vigerous chest and the rest tac. I run a bfb and a booster. At a sliver of health the booster gives me a full overheal plus damage resistence and extra damage, the bfb at 30 stacks with the talent providing extra 20% with 4 sticky damage mods one shots just about everything. Again a bit of a troll pvp build but a fun pve build. I will still be trying other variation of the tac build but haven't had much time yet.

David M I think the six piece is complete ass in PvP. You'll never get the fire explosion because too many players run over fifty fire resist reducing the "on fire time" drastically. You'll probably kill a player before your gun lights him up too. Run it with inventive in the DZ, six piece only on PvE content. It's a joke in the DZ

6k electronics = 80% chance to keep 60 stack capacity and a bonus 30 stack 9k electronics = 100% chance. If you dont get the bonus on reset youre going to be punished very hard for it.

its fine because right now its simple to stack for a firepower major player.

Wouldn't it be better to just play Striker then?

better team support, with 40k skillpower your team get 40% crit chance per person. also yourself has pretty decent dmg as you have 7k firearm. also you can provide a weapon to refresh signature skill in around 2 min.

it would be perfect as a half support in pve. but in pvp i dont think its valid. looks like massive want us use final measurement only for pvp healer/support rules.

Justin Miller if you could still heal while ads it would be strong but the clunkiness prevents it from being a good build.

This is a very true and factual comment. I believe players who are solid at straffing, then this could be a strong build for them. But I definitely see your point and agree!

MarcoStyle OK.. Now I see what you mean... I've been running all gear set.. Not classified set.. Thanks bro!!