Love this series, and strong influence! Really appreciate the efforts towards research to ensuring transfer of creditable knowledge. Thanks for taking us on the journey with you and sharing insights! After watching this I totally wanted to buy one, and it continues to cross my mind.
PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE!!! There's SO much out there on plant scams just like this (alocasia Jacklyn I'm looking at you) and also with people illegally poaching aroids from different countries and protected habitats and reselling them for exorbitant prices, leading to increases of endangering plant species and habitats.
@@armandomeza6387allegedly it was poached from a country in southeast asia (maybe indonesia but I can't remember) and was named after said poacher hence "Jacklyn". Its real name is Alocasia tandurusa
I just regret paying £450 for a 1 leaf cutting that I ended up killing 6 months later. I got another one this year because I like the plant for £27 and I feel like a complete tool paying what I paid 2 years ago.
I love this type of videos! I’ve always been interested in the history of house plants and how they were introduced, and it seems like there is not much stuff like this on yt. Great work!
I learned more watching two of your videos than I’ve learned from the hundreds of others I’ve watched…I sure wish other plant YT’rs would create more educational content with actual facts (or at least more informative instead of “look at my new milsbo cabinet”) like this. Subscribed!
These drama videos are EVERYTHING!!! do anthuriums! Ace of Spades might be a great video to make since they used to be tissue cultured and very cheap and now they're hundreds of dollars.
@@mmcfadden517 do drama per say but Ace of Spades used to be $4.50 wholesale and now they're hundreds of dollars. I'm currently working on a video about it that should be out soon.
This was a really interesting video!!! I dont know much about plants as im still extremely new, but my gosh i didnt realize how interesting the drama in the plant community could be!!!
I bought a Peru about 1,5 month ago for 70€ at a plant pop up sale. I observed all the craziness during the pandemic and the prices blew my mind. I got really turned off by them. But for that price I couldn’t leave it there and I truly enjoy it now. In my opinion it’s not that difficult at all. I’m keeping it under a grow light next to a diffuser and it’s doing great and the third new leave is already on it‘s way. It‘s unbelievable that my plant would sell for thousands of dollars two years ago 🤯 Thanks for tue great video! I just binged all your drama videos. Love them! ❤ subbed
I really enjoyed this video. The history is very interesting. The "price fixing" is even more interesting. There always seems to be someone out there willing to take advantage. I just buy what I like. Never just had to have something just because it was a "fad". I have subscribed for more content like this. Thanks !!!!
Wow. People buying are crazy. Sellers would always be there. I love plants. But it is to be part of their growth journey that satisfies me. It could be a free cutting or a $5 plant. Infact I don't buy plants with loads of tantrums or high prices. For me monstera adansonii is so cool. Why even bother for obliqua.
I completely got turned off after the value of a couple "rare plants" I bought drastically dropped in price, I'm NEVER EVER AGAIN paying anything near a premium price for a plant, THEY WILL ALL DROP IN PRICE, look at spiritus sancti now lol, just be patient and you'll own all the "rare plants" you want.😁😁
It's a shame that the Bolivian form got overshadowed so drastically, it's a beautiful plant in its own right, like a monstera version of philodendron lehmanii!
I grow mine in room humidity and it grows fast I got mine for 15 and yes it’s obliqua and I sold a cutting and people thought I was insane for selling it for 5 bucks and they thought it was still thousands of dollars lol
I never understood the lure of the Oblique. It looks like it's got some nasty disease to me. I did pay $250 for a rootless, mid cut of a Monstera Albo a few years ago. That was the most I ever spent on any plant. But I did learn a very important lesson: I get just as happy watching my "cheap" plants grow as I do the expensive ones. My Albo is doing fantastic, I was even able to share a cutting with my daughter, but I won't pay that much for a plant again.
P. spiritus sancti was definitely always a step above, but about four years ago M. obliqua "Peru" was a pretty close second and was fetching higher prices in certain auctions.
It definitely translates as that and was that for sure. Some ppl call Obliqua that. TBH I copied the title of the PSS vid from last week when I finished at 5am 😂
Thank you so much for your historical series, I watched your previous one also. I bought a P. Birkin long after its peak price and was very surprised to learn that there had been some scandal about them. Birkins are very easy to grow and I really enjoy mine, but when I tried to research their early history I couldn't find anything about them on the internet. Do you know anything?
i don't know if this is the scandal you're thinking of or if there was something else, but the birkin is an unstable mutation of the rojo congo. at the height of the birkin's popularity and rarity (and price) i do know there was some upset about people's birkins reverting to the (at the time) much more common and much less expensive rojo congo. not so much an issue now that both plants are very cheap.
Not anymore, but it used to be that way. I don't know if it has to do with tissue culture but the plant that most people have right now seems to be hardier
This is even funnier to watch in mid 2024, when I can get a proper Obliqua plant (and yes it's really obliqua) in my backwards country, with 4 nice leaves, around $25.
Needa sent me a load of nodes to the uk i was selling them For £150 and people were freaking out . In a bad way. This was a few months before the famous post she made.😊
If that’s who I think it is, I used to admin that group because I loved the species but it took a hard turn into a scheme, that and the way she treated respected members of the community was enough for me to block her and dip out
I love these videos ty. Is there a reason monstera deliciosa albos are still so high? Why do i see tissue culture for Thais everywhere but not albos? Is the demand still that high after all this time? I was waiting for the price to come down, it did a little, then went back up again. 😒
albos will never be as cheap as thai cons because their variegation is different. albos do not have stable variegation like thais do which is why thais can be so easily tissue cultured. essentially so long as albos are remotely popular, they will be expensive because creating supply for them is much harder and takes longer.
Hmmm interesting. In the same way I don’t agree with withholding supply to keep prices up, I don’t agree with adjusting supply in collusion to regulate prices. I think the price of Obliqua taught us things always come back to “normal”
