The Dream Melbourne Train System! 

How's this for a dream - an underground train line connecting Sorrento to Queenscliff - creating the ultimate loop line around Melbourne!!

As a retired Driver, I like your dream map thinking. You have a bright future, and I hope you get in a position one day to carry out your dream. The things that are being done now should have been done 40 years ago, particularly re-opening Whittlesea & the Geelong electrification. I will not live to see your dreams come to fruition, but you might. I live in a country town, now deprived of a railway.. This town has certainly gone backwards since the line closure in 1978. Keep up the passion.

Love how you gave the ruler the arse after about 5 seconds 😂

I'd love to see you talk through a high speed rail connection between Melbourne and Sydney. Keep up the good work.

Keep dreaming young man, at least you're young enough to see a lot of that come to reality over the next 50 years, I'll be dead and buried before most of that sees any construction lol

I bet Metro sent you a sticker and said "when you grow up and finished university, give us a call."

I love it, a little city centric though. Major investment and upgrades need to be made in country lines, these lines have been neglected for decades. Bulk goods to port, Melbourne or upgrade of Hastings to reduce truck movements. And the upgrade to satellite cities Ballarat, Bendigo, Geelong etc, TGV style so people can commute to Melbourne of employment , education or other needs. Would also be great to see rail network employ people directly rather that PPP, private, public partnerships.

The world needs dreamers for anything worthwhile to actually happen, so all power to you!!!

What a great video. Some very interesting thoughts. Good to see someone young with great ideas. I can see that after you finish your studies, you will be the next head of Victorian Railways. As things go in a circle all trains will be back under the one control. Take care and stay safe.

At 4:09, ‘Overall there is too much planning and not enough action’. Well Train man that’s Australia for you. And plus, people say easier to say than done.........

Here's another few dream rail projects First off the Werribee Line extended to Waurn Ponds via Geelong, next up suburban trains returning to Warragul or in other words extending the Pakenham line back out to Warragul since the late 90s, then a new line to Wollert with new stations at Epping Plaza, Epping North, Aurora and finally Wollert, this will be apart of Metro Tunnel 2 starting from Lalor connecting with the Mernda line, up next the Suburban Rail Loop being expanded with new connections at Coolaroo, Roxburgh Park, Craigieburn, Laverton, Newport, Southern Cross, Flinders Street, Port Melbourne, St Kilda and Brighton, Hampton and Sandringham with new stations at Highland (which is near Craigieburn), Mickleham, Yuroke, Greenvale, Atwood, Westmeadows, Gladstone Park, Oaklands Junction (near Melbourne Airport), Taylors Lake, Kealba, Keilor, Airport West, Essendon Fields, Nidree, Avondale Heights, Maribyrnong, Maidstone, Braybrook, Brooklyn, South Kingsville, Black Rock and Beaumaris so that way it's like it does a whole loop around Melbournes train network in both directions, next the Frankston which will soon become the Baxter line to connect with the Craigieburn and Upfield lines to merge as Metro Tunnel 3 using Flagstaff, Melbourne Central and Parliament Stations platforms 2&3 along with a line to Rosebud which would also be extended to Sorrento then to Portsea along with the Craigieburn line extending out to Wallan with new stations at Craigieburn East, Kalkalo and Beveridge and last but not least Ballarat, Bendigo and Geelong get their own metro rail network. All those dream rail projects will even feature 100 more new HCMT trains for Metro Tunnels 2&3 and the Waurn Ponds electricfication will also be apart of Metro Tunnel 2, more trains on the Suburban Rail Loop as apart of the expansion and new trains for the Ballarat, Bendigo and Geelong metro rail network while the Warragul extension will use the Metro Tunnel 1. What do you think of that? Pretty cool huh?😁

Oh and by the way the wallan/merrifield area is the fastest growing in Melbourne so I think that it will be electrified

I totally agree a Peninsula line is much needed. It should go all the way to Portsea since the bus goes that far too

You'll be a great contributor in our train system, you'll grow within the system of specifications, you'll be at a point of authority... Just stay on your path and strong within your passion. Time will promote your growth, passion, and dedication on this journey. Thank you for your dedication.

1) Having trains to Chadstone would totally free up the busses. I remember whenever I've caught a bus to Holmesglen early in the morning and it would be half empty once you drop people off at Chadstone. 2) MORNINGTON PENINSULA! YES! I don't live there anymore, but I hated, absoloutly HATED the bus system. Especially in Rosebud, it'd be every 50 minutes during the week and every 50mins - 1 1/2 hr for a bus. Bloody hell it was frustrating. Even if they just do what the backbeach/Stony Point has, where it has a train system that doesn't come so often, but the a bus that does. Also during the tourism months, catching the bus was bloody hell, because so many tourists would jump on and it's just like, I have to deal with a 1hr 5min bus trip, I just wanna go home! Also I feel like /at least/ an electrification to Hastings would be better than just to Baxter. But I've never really gone past Hastings whenever I'd visit a friend, so... 3) Having a train line that "replaces" the 901 would be fantastic. I mean I have a major hatred for the 901, but it would help free up a lot of the dodgy people, I mean they can either choose a bus or a train. But at least if they try and fight with you, you can move train carriages instead of just moving from one section of the bus to another.

Hi mate, I live in the UK but I have an interest in the Met system in Melbourne and have followed it's expansions and new ideas since I visited way back in the 80's and 90's. I find your posts very informative please keep posting them as it gives me a link and keeps me up to date. Thanks again

There’s also plan for a branch line to ‘North Epping’! I believe it’s to branch off near Child’s Rd between Lalor & Epping Stations, I’ve been doing some work in the area, you can see the reserve where the new line is to go through the new estates.

Great to see you back Train Man.....looking forward to this one!

I loved the video! All the plans look amazing and I hope to see at least 4 new lines within 20 years!

I’m really loving the effort your putting into this video.

Im a few years late but i love your passion for this. One thing I would say, cease service on the Altona loop but keep the loop intact. In Brisbane we have the seldom-used Tennyson loop, which is a great help when we have inner city closures for the Cross River Rail, as Beenleigh and Gold Coast lines can redirect to the city via the Ipswich/Springfield lines. The same could be used in a pinch if theres ever any issues on V-Line, and they need to redirect via Werribee/Altona.

Loved this. Look forward to your ascension to Minister for PT - don't be so quick to suggest / concede that projects are unrealistic - hold the gaze, lift expectations!

You champ, great channel, keeping me and the Mrs entertained and educating us on our city. Keep doing what you do bro

I'm in my mid 50's now and I can remember my grandfather who lived at deer Park saying there's talk of electrifying the Melton line, that was 50 years ago and it still hasn't happened. Love your map and you should look at getting into the planning side of government, that way it may actually happen.

Gets better and better! What a great video! Absolutely loved seeing some of the lines there! Some amazing ideas just flowing out onto the map. Awesome stuff!

I really want to see General Motors reopen, then I could catch the train to woolies! Besides that I've thought about quite a few of the lines etc. that you mentioned in the vid. Hoping to see the network expand like you. Keep up the good work mate!

Good one ! You have a good grasp of Melbourne's train network, and what should happen in the future. I hope you are thinking about studying something suitable at uni, to enable you to be able to work in an industry that you love. Your ideas are great 😃

Oh yeah, I 100% agree with you on the extension to Knox. Great video!

Good video, thanks for your work

Good fun and very thoughtful. Well done.

You're Wild!! Love it

Cheers Train Man!! Awesome vid mate!

Interesting stuff - food for thought. Another great and very future-oriented video, Max!

This is great, thanks!

The editing in this video was outstanding man! *chef kiss* Amazing map. Crushing it as always mate!

Agree with you on the doncaster line 100%. My old Melways from the early 1970s actuality shows it, as do the old Hitachi trains' destination rolls. If you watched them scroll through destinations at Flinders St you could see "Doncaster East".

Cheers for the video been waiting for this good work mate keep it going hope all is good with your lockdown and school work.

General Motors line wheeeeyyy!! The deff need to reopen the old Cranbourne line but this whole new map is beautiful

Another great video max! I remember doing a similar thing on google my maps in near where i live in ballarat for a rail connection in the southern suburbs. The line started off the ballarat line and ended on the geelong to ballarat line. Good stuff

Great video mate

I am so glad you added Sandringham to SRL - this is a logical stop.

I love these ideas! I just want to see the V-Line to Mildura open up!

I wish I had been this interested in transport and planning when I was in high school. Fascinating watch, I'd love to see these realised.

Interesting mix of known future and aspirational projects here. One issue with a lot of these options is the creation of additional spur lines in already busy corridors, which becomes very complex operationally. Fragmentation of a trunk with several spurs can become a nightmare, especially when there are delays. I’d personally like to see a reinstatement of the outer circle line, basically extending the existing Alamein line alignment. It’s not unrealistic to think it could be extended to the south to go past Chadstone and join in at Clayton, then extend north through Kew and change direction out to Doncaster. Operating as a shuttle like that would provide so many options for moving around the eastern suburbs, but as you say, they’ve already go enough infrastructure. Ultimately the government sees the rail network as being for commuters, so until business becomes more decentralised in Melbourne there won’t be much in the way of major changes to how the network is planned.

That looks so good mate

Good shit mate. Let’s hope they continue to invest in public transport to ease the traffic congestion and make Melbourne have a more world class train system like those we see in Asian cities (Tokyo, Hong Kong etc)

#geelongelectrification 😏

Nooo i missed the premiere! Anyway absolutely great video I would expect you to have much more subscribers! The editing is great, the camera angles are great! The Research is great and the map/ideas in the video are great!!! This is basically a much better revamp of “the future of Melbourne trains”. So yeah amazing video Max! You deserve 100K subscribers for your effort!!

This is beautiful.

Awesome video and ideas. Your map was fantastic. Never thought of a Point Cook line. What a great idea!

Seems like there is some great ideas!

This is what Melbourne needs, free thinkers. Using rational thought but not constrained by other factors. Yes the free thoughts need to be reigned in by budgetary constraints but we all need to think outside the square which he is and good on him for doing so. I hope he gets a job in town planning for we need free thinkers like him!

Good to see you back Max, i've been wondering when you were coming out with a new video. But then i thought your locked down we will see you soonish. Great info as usual max, maybe some of these lines will be in before 30 years at least your young enough to see them happen.. 👍🏻

This video is really cool i like your train map you've coloured in

Finally getting a train station in Bundoora, now I won’t have to go to Watsonia St

The point cook line could also be extended to Werribee South, and Avalon. The loop could also be extended to Werribee South station. Not only would it help the airport and zoo, but also the future development of these areas

Nice video 😊

I had an idea for another branch from Cranbourne, a connecting line to Frankston, potentially the rail corridor would go through Cranbourne west, to Langwarrin, serve Karingal Hub shopping centre with a stop nearby, connect at Baxter, and run through to Frankston. The proposed loop could allow HCMT trains to be seen at Frankston, and serve some suburbs that currently have no suburban rail representation.

Nice video mate, we all like to dream at some point, no matter how unrealistic it might be.

Melbourne is really slowly becoming a transit mecca here, watch out, Singapore and Hong Kong with your standard gauge metros.. You know, my city once stood as the biggest tram system in the world but then Melbourne overtook it in the 90s and that was a sign that while St Petersburg stagnated and fell into disrepair, Melbourne sprung up, grew and developed!

This is going to be good

Nice video train man!!!

I like you map, can’t wait to do one of my dream Melbourne train map one day. All to say well done mate! :)

Impressive channel and great video mate!

I drove to Monash uni in Caulfield for the past 5 years and didn’t realise how close Alamein is to holmesglen and chadstone. Would literally need 2 extra stations to extend that. The train line to Rowville could also make sense to go from Glen Waverley. This with A Knox city line running through wantirna, and Vermont would free up the Belgrave line a lot too, as a lot of people would commute to those stations

Can’t wait for this one!

So excited for this

While the line along Eastlink would be good, the suburban rail loop already covers it. I would redo St Kilda Line to pick-up MSAC, South Melbourne Market and Albert Park. Then have it connect to Brighton Beach, through to Moorabin Airport and Dingley, before going through Dandenong, then Karingal, Baxter and onto the Mornington Peninsula.

hi there ! educational as always

Hi Max, great presentation and good imagination. As you say some of these lines have been talked about for over 60 years. The Geelong line should have been electrified years ago. It took ages to even duplicate. The Upfield line another one. The Leogatha line , another huge mistake closing it, and the Airport line, the list is endless. But your plan is good as long as Governments finance public transport.Cheers.

nice map! i like how you pointed out the feasibility of each haha. i think some more lines focussing on the north west and west would be good, extending the racecourse line to Keilor east would be amazing and any another alignment going from west to east in the northern suburbs (eg sky train on bell street or Brunswick road) would be very beneficial. furthermore, talking about tram netwroks in the far west in Point Cook tarniet and Werribee would be great to connect the good stations you have place to the rest if the suburbs. keep up the great work!

I personally think cities like Melbourne and Hobart are lucky because of all the old rail lines.

For the St Kilda loop, it should use Platform 1 at Brighton Beach!

Trains going to Chadstone has been talked about for over 20 years. I read not long ago that there were talks about having a tram for from Caulfield to Chadstone and then continuing to Rowville on that same path you mentioned.

a future master of urban development

Well done train man.... Yu da bom

About Doncaster. If you look north from the Hoddle street bridge over the freeway, you will see that the inbound freeway lanes go up and over then down and under the bridge. The rumor is, there is an existing rail bridge under that hump, to allow a branch line from Clifton Hill to go down the freeway median to Doncaster. Allegedly it was built as part of the freway in the 1970s, when the freeway was built.

Great work Max 👍

Good to see a mix of fresh ideas amongst existing projects. With regards to the Sth Gippsland Hwy level crossing at Cranbourne, I believe it's still regarded as active and wouldn't need to be removed for the line to reopen

6:50 I reckon Oakleigh will be the best place for an interchange

I like the plan mate. As a person in the east I particularly like the Rowville, Doncaster, and Knox City lines. Perhaps even extending the 75 Tram line from Vermont Sth to Knox as well to have improved connectivity. But I don’t think the connection of the sky rail to the Rowville line would really work. I also like the Alamein line going to Chadstone as I think it would improve business there, free up the busses and car parking in the area whilst rejuvenating an almost forgotten and rather underused line. The other pt I’d like to see improved isn’t train related but separating the tram lines and roads where possible. (Like what they did on Burwood Hwy past Deakin uni ) I believe this would help massively with traffic congestion as cars wouldn’t be held up by trams stopping and starting. Then finally some road upgrades such as completing North East Link, West Gate Tunnel, East West Link, extra lanes on Monash Fwy, and Tullamarine Fwy in conjunction with the pt would finally bring us back up to speed with the growing Melbourne.

What do you want to be when you’re older / what are you studying? It’d be a shame if you didn’t do something train related!

There's a library book which I read about 40yrs ago about the Public transport future upgrade system then and now the P.T.V is still at snail pace trying to make things happen now! If they didn't dismantle the Outer circle line years ago it would save a lot time and money and put in proposals for the people of Melbourne and surrounding areas agree!

Im happy to see when im old

Train to rye would be awesome. Great video very inspiring.

Great video and hope those projects eventuate. Your completed map looks more and more like Tokyo's train system! Also, it would be nice to have a train connection to Highpoint Shopping Centre - Melbourne's second largest shopping mall after Chaddy.

30 years is insane. Mad max will have happened by then.

By the Time the Geelong Line starts Ballarat would need one too, connecting up the Regional Cities together and to the city with a fast rail would be kinda cool but it would probably be a massive cost and some kind of loop if you get Geelong, Bendigo, Ballarat and Shepparton it seems quite forward thinking with a line from Geelong or Ballarat connecting to Sunshine

Clifton hill is already a congested mess and would require massive road reworks as the train line and roads are already competing for space. I really hope the Melbourne train network gets as many upgrades and has the outer loop completed ahead of schedule.

That's a good map mate. ^-^ Something I would of come up with. Love your content as always. I finally uploaded another video. ^-^ Hopefully I'll make more train videos, especially once we're out of lockdown.

Let me know which project you would like to see!

You have some excellent ideas and I used to dream about things like this as a boy as well. I hope some of these lines come true but we might be too old to appreciate them or deceased when they are completed. I would really like a Mornington Peninsula line because I do travel that way in the summer. However, the outer loop is a must. We need a railway that connects Melburnians to the Melbourne Airport.

i think we dont need a flamboyant extension to the airport from sunshine, all we need is a simple two lane tunnel with trains every 3 minutes and escalators up to the airport terminals. i like the rest of your ideas, keep it up!

This is gonna be a blockbuster!

hi mate, i love trains too and work on lxrp as an engineer. my gf is on metro tunnel! we are living the dream!

this sounds great, i would love to see an extention of the south gippsland line to lang lang at least, then a connection to philip island

Great job!! You always do terrific videos! Hopefully at least some of them get built 😉 Perhaps something for another video but I wonder what rollingstock will be used on which line?

Noooo! I’m so sorry I can’t come to your streams anymore because I’m trying to lose weight so I’m going to the park every evening, I’m so sorry, but I will always keep watching you videos! :D

Nice my g

In regards to the tourist railway at Healesville they could use the soon to be old (the present day) Lilydale station as I think it will be retained post grade separation