You forgot to mention Brie/Carol also lacks Superman's Sex Appeal. I rather watch a six hour gay porn with Superman as power bottom than see Brie Larson
The fact that everyone just calls the villain ‘Jude Law’ instead of whatever the character’s actual name is shows how forgettable that character was. A waste of a great actor
Or maybe those people are just like myself and just don’t try to pay that much attention nor care to retain the names of characters after watching a movie. If I remember after a day or so it’s likely some kind of accident, many people I hear and have talked about movies or when trying to remember the name of a movie usually just goes by referencing the real name of someone who played in it. Unless it’s between two fans...
A drunken author with solid yet relatively low profile books writing better than big league movie writers with 7 figure salaries. What a world we live in.
A broken period. We need a drunken Irish to speak words of wisdom. And an unpredictable Orange Man to lead the United States of America. #Impeach46 #BidenMustResign
The saddest part is that Captain Marvel in the comics, before she was redesigned, was a deeply flawed person who probably would have worked better on screen than what we got. She was still one of the most BAMF members in the entire Avengers roster but this was counterbalanced by a tendency to blindly follow authority figures, a habit of taking slights way too personally and a serious drinking problem.
Karen are one of the worst personality types in history. Entitled, privileged, but lacking almost any value. There is a few things they have in common with Captain Marvel. They lack empathy, compassion, gratitude, and humility. Yup, Captain Marvel is Captain Karen
That opening fight scene with the "you're too emotional" line was very confusing to me. I've trained in martial arts and keeping your head is actually very important. You channel your aggression, you don't let it control you. So when the trainer says "you're too emotional" and punishes her for lashing out in an immature way, then I was 100% on his side. Then the movie was like "oh nooooo, look at how oppressed she is" and I was so put off. The scene was completely ineffective. Isn't this movie trying to represent women who actually do the fighty-fighty shooty-shooty stuff? This movie was written by someone who wouldn't know a "strong woman" if one was presented on a silver platter.
Yeah i remember being SUPER disjointed by it as well, having taken martial arts for years, served in the military, etc. Like its not something that is JUST said to women AND its super important, especially in the military where others are relying on your actions, you do NOT go off half cocked. but somehow its "oh see men are evil, he is trying to hold her back by asking her not to be a raging narcacist that will get others on her team and herself hurt". i was just like yeah...thats not a good look. Still i was hoping it would recover from it...but then you just get wtf scene after wtf scene, like the bike stealing scene. what kind of "hero" just jacks someone's belongings because "he said words i dont like". Then it just keeps going, pop culture references that would either not exist at that point in time or would be SO unknown at that point that what amounts to an alien entering earth for the first time in years would have no idea of...and on and on and on. But my favorite part is being told im a sexist for disliking the film.
I completely missed the part where the movie said she was right, and thought that the character was just acting immature. Made me quite like the part in Endgame where she fights Thanos.
It was part of the gaslighting. When she got emotional, her true power was revealed. If she ever understood how much power she had, then she would then be able to use it and would know that the Kree had been lying to her. So by using the reasonable and appropriate guidance of a martial arts instructor, Yon-Rogg hoped that he could control her. When she did get emotional, she burned out the device that was holding her power back. Then Yon Rogg's training bit him in the keister, because she had learned how to control her strength and now she knew how much strength she truly had.
The whole movie is a cope session against things women hear all the time; “you are too emotional” is a tough one since if you portray her that way, you would be roasted by critics, ironic since most women struggle with being too emotional in situations that don’t justify it.
The sad thing is that I actually place Captain Marvel a step or two above Black Panther. And Marvel got a lot of hate. (Almost) everyone loved, or pretended to love, Black Panther.
@@JennySparkz True, he was a very promising character in Civil War. There was too much feminist nonsense in Black Panther. And that song at the end sucked.
Hollywood hacks: "Audiences need more diverse and thus relatable characters!" *Proceeds to create a fleet of cookie-cutter unlikable, unrelatable caricatures*
right? the only way this could have been more stereotypical is if *she* were the gay black girl with a daughter from her teen pregnancy with a missing father.
The problem is this is how feminists actually believe they are in real life. In their mind, this ideal Mary Sue is exactly what they consider "relatable".
I mean ffs, in the comics she's fun, she's got jokes, she's lowkey a giant dork, and she has actual flaws and makes mistakes while still being a great, powerful hero. It's like the people behind the movie didn't even bother reading them and just were like NO SHE'S STRONG FEMALE THAT IS HER ONLY TRAIT.
Man, I love this guy's reviews. Like it's one thing to tear something apart for being bad, but it's a whole other level to go point by point of what a story did wrong, then put your money where your mouth is and fix the story so the character has a more likeable and relatable arc. Does this guy only critique? Like has he written anything because..finally! A guy who actually understands proper plot progression and characters.
When critics throw abuse at a movie it’s easy to say, “I suppose you could do better”, until the Drinker shows up. This is a highly respected author and awesome storyteller who actually understands the process of writing characters. The Drinker just added a couple of scenes, replaced a couple of other ones - and turned this flat, emotionless movie into something worth watching. The saddest part is that these would’ve been cheap scenes to shoot and would’ve actually given us a respectable hero’s journey.
I love the irony of every other character telling her that she's too emotional when she's played by an actress who has no clue of how to convey emotion at all.
Imagine telling the door of your bedroom, “stop being so emotional,” when it swings open a little bit quicker than usual one morning. If you can imagine that, then you’ve seen Captain Marvel
I'm convinced a lot of these similar new female leads are borne from an inherent misunderstanding of major kusanagi (GitS). There are so many under-cooked ideas borrowed from anime.
@@stavrosguitarist2378 I've read over my comment and the others in this thread, and not a single person has called her a bad actress. Not to mention, winning an Oscar now means absolutely nothing in terms of skill or ability.
A thought I had: in this revised version what if Cap Marvel’s recklessness in the beginning directly causes Nick Fury to lose an eye, say during a firefight with a Kree scout force which they barely escape? She makes a dumb hot-headed error in the middle of the fight, and it prompts her to reflect and make changes in time for the final battle. Just a thought.
Could somehow make it go together with that comment from, Winter Soldier i think, where Fury tells Cap "The last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye". Might even provide an explanation for why he never called her before. She left that pager with him because she felt guilty af, but he wouldn't trust her to water his plants while he's taking a vacation, but now he realised that if he's actually dying "might as well. She ain't gonna make anything worse at this point."
Both great ideas, CM is reckless in the beginning when she starts her hero's journey, realizes her mistakes, and tries to become a better woman/ heroine as time goes on leading to saving the entire universe.
I really love how this guy speaks like a blithering idiot at the bar but educates us as such equals and with such wits that his knowledge on fixing movies and seeing their flaws is remarkable and honestly makes him such a great movie reviewer. Love this guy!!!
Would have been better if he grabbed the power stone punched captain plank and then here skull breaks. I dont hate female superheroes just the angry im better then you and nothing can stop me also i want to speak to your manager vibe.
@@mikeoxlong9522 same, nothing against strong frmale characters, but when they're poorly written, poorly acted and only exist to be eMpOwRiNg, then I have a problem.
I was too busy groaning about his headbutt doing absolutely nothing for me to fully appreciate that punch. That was so goddamn stupid. Seeing Thanos punch her out of the movie was nice. But the fact that it took a full-on infinity stone punch to hurt her when we see Thanos fuck up the Hulk *without* a stone is stupid. Thanos made a joke of the Hulk and it took Ironman's best suit and best effort to draw literally one drop of blood. Yet Captain Marvel is such a fucking Mary Sue that Thanos can't even push her away without an infinity stone? *Yeah, fuck that.*
@@mikeoxlong9522 some people complain about the female superhero line up near the end of Endgame but I see that as the Russo Brothers saying to the Captain Marvel team that "we already have female superheroes who are badass, have flaws, and are likable." Scarlet Witches' confrontation with Thanos had far more impact than Cap Karen's did which is why I think the Russo's had her practically punched out of the movie till the end line up at Tony's funeral.
I think it's frickin gold that you refer to Marvel as a "plank of wood" and MauLer refers to her throughout his entire review of Captain Marvel as "Plank"
I still remember how during 'Commando,' Arnold's character John Matrix was originally supposed to have sex with one of the stewardesses when he was aboard the airplane after knocking out the guy that had taken him there at gunpoint. Keep in mind that John Matrix is about as shallow as the name implies. He's a vessel for action-violence with a single motivation for doing so. His character traits pretty much boil down to 'badass soldier that loves his daughter.' But when Arnold was told that Matrix would take a break form rescuing his kidnapped daughter to join the mile high club? He put his foot down. It didn't matter that he would be stuck on the plane for a static amount of time no matter what. He said that he couldn't see Matrix doing that because not only would it break from his character, but it would damage the audience's opinion of him. Imagine if Brie Larson had half the self-awareness and character understanding as Arnold Schwarzenegger during 'Commando.' Hell, imagine if she had reacted to the situation with the Don (even the original version where she just robs him) by trading some Kree technological trinket for his bike after showing him how much it's capable of. It wouldn't even need to be much. It could basically just be an iPhone that combines radio, phone, TV, etc in a single package. Hell-2, it's the 90s. Just being able to pick up internet on something so small would be insane. There could be a postcredit scene where SHIELD buys it off him, helping to explain their technology level even given Howard Stark's death.
"Brie Larson had half the self-awareness and character understanding" but that is the thing, Captain Marvel is how Brie Larson sees herself, the ultimate badass female hero that never fails because she is absolutely perfect. May as well rename the movie as "Brie Larson´s power fantasy"
@@kranichkrone Nobody said she was ugly. Let's see, Pooh Bear said story line, Edouard said unemotional, Sorain said it's not even an arc. Nope, nobody said she's ugly.
As someone who actually didn't have a problem with the movie, I have to say your version was WAY better. I visualized the whole thing as you were saying it. Damn, I wish my eyes could experience it too.
Right? I mean I'm just suck a sucker for the trope of bringing an op character to the verge of quitting and then bringing them back to kick serious ass in a flashy, over the top sequence. Like I actual got chills imagining a scene where she is forced to forgive herself and come to terms with her past in the emotionally impactful way he described and truly unleash her true potential. It would be a very superman-esque way to finish the movie.
Step 1: have the cat scratching his eye out be a Skrull instead of just the cat. Step 2: hire someone else to be Nick Fury cause Sam Jackson is apparently a simp for Brie Larson considering he plays along with her in her other shitty movie projects and puts in far too much effort to be doing it for just a pay check.
The thing is...it actually isn't terribly hard to fix GoT. If they had given the show room to actually develop and finish out the last threads (and hired someone with half a brain in medieval battle tactics), it would have been already considerably better. That said, I would love The Drinker's take on it.
Most characters in the MCU had diminished powers. They should have done the same with her. This way enemies can pose real threats and her savviness can be better emphasized. I mean, even Thanos was weaker on film than his comic book version. Just leveling her powers down would have been a better way to deal with the story over all.
Especially that scene where she demonstrates her photon blast on the jukebox and then does that inexplicable glamour pose from Napolean Dynamite with her chin resting on her fist, argh I hate that...
7:10 You know, I've noticed this since years ago when I got into reading novels and writing. For some unknown reasons, male writers usually wrote their male protagonists to have a flawed characters, most usually chose a physically weak start for their male protags which they will overcome by determination or wit before they became strong enough. However, female writers, on the other hand, wrote their female protagonists as perfect specimens of human beings, usually with little to no flaw, even if there's a flaw, the flaw will be an emotional flaw that will only be lauded through the entirety of story (I.e, reckless violence, stubborn, always feels like they're in the right, arrogance, overconfidence) with no repercussion at all. In short, male protags felt like a ride to an adventure where you can join him in his journey and feel his struggle, meanwhile female protags are feels-good characters.
"He's an intimidating and powerful commander who she's openly afraid of, y'know, so he can present a bit of a threat?" This would actually play very strongly into the "men are abusers" narrative/theme, too, that Brie wanted to get across but couldn't let her precious character be weak enough to be vulnerable to. It would make the encounter with the jerk and the newspaper - and the deleted scene where she almost goes too far on him - stronger, too: he represents the same thing, but now Captain Marvel has the strength to punch back. The "she went too far" / "that was bullying" thing that came across (and was why they cut the majority of that scene) could then be played for drama as she is forced to come to grips with her own faults. On her way to being a better heroine.
It was obvious to me what her real message was. You see it throughout the whole movie. Men were portrayed as the arrogant jerk abusers and of course she beat them all into the dirt. How convenient. I especially love at 15:21 where you see the word "HER" fade into "A HERO". This seemed more like a feminist/sjw presentation to show how big, strong and tough women are while portraying men as jerks and oppressors.
@@ComputerLearning0, sure, but it also made them weak and ineffectual jerks, which undermines the message that women are oppressed. I'm not saying I agree with either part of that message, but I'm critiquing their presentation of it. Part of the reason Brie Larson - sorry, "Captain Marvel" - comes off so unsympathetic is because she almost comes off as a barely-justified bully. Sure, her victims are being jerks, but they're not actually hurting her. And she's being just as big of a jerk while smugly beating them. The "evil men" come off as stupid for having limited self-preservation instinct, not as predators who are seriously a threat she must overcome. Drinker's idea of making Jude Law's character personally intimidating, with a powerful personality that brings to mind real-world abusive relationships where the woman is a victim who has a mix of Stockholm Syndrome and genuine fear, to the point that she denies herself the power to leave, would have made him an intimidating threat. Making the pseudo-biker-dude who asks her to "smile" an echo of that, but without the personal charisma (and with her having boosted her power well beyond what she had facing a Kree warrior on the mat) would actually justify - narrativley, if not morally - the deleted scene with him where she out-and-out bullies him. (I'm pretty sure they dropped it because, despite Brie Larson et al not seeing anything wrong with Marvel's behavior there, audiences reacting with disgust...and they can't have that!) Make that an outright character flaw of hers that is a rebound reaction to the way she'd been treated before. Make it show her emotional instability that she supposedly has. Maybe even make her have a mix of elation at the power and horror at realizing what she did to that guy, and wrestle with it a bit. Having her be a "who regulates the Superman?" character with the story acknowledging that she's a flawed human being with far more power than she knows how to handle would be an amazing character arc for her, and could tell a feminism story and even show their desired narrative of "evil men" being the cause of it because her damage is due to that abusive relationship pseudo-metaphor with Jude Law's character.
That scene alone could have given her a ton of redemption after crushing the guy's hand she immediately snaps back to reality, realizing what she's done, profusely apologizing with a shaky voice and taking him to a hospital. THAT alone would've made her a far more sympathetic character than what the fuck we got originally.
Bravo. Your summary of Linda Hamilton's performance was spot on. Even when she showed vulnerability on screen, she was strong. When she breaks down in tears during her attempted assassination. This strange, heavily armed woman is having an emotional experience with a loaded .45 in her hand. Who is in control of that scene? Sarah Conner. Emotional or not. When she failed to escape the mental hospital. I never saw a weak woman. She got tackled and held down by 3 large men. She wasn't a weak helpless woman. She was human and real. I miss those characters.
Or when she criticizes, needlessly in John's opinion, the engineer that helped create cyberdine. "You don't know what it's like to really create something; to create a life; to feel it growing inside you. All you know how to create is death!" All this, after murder attempt on this man's life. Still, very emotional, grounded, motherly, ties in well with her character traits in Terminator 1, and is human. John was right (another good line for him) that this wasn't the time for a diatribe, it was time to work (supporting the idea that he could be a leader).
Correction (to both you AND The Drinker): Sara did not FAIL to escape the mental hospital. She was STOPPED by the intervention/arrival of John and the Terminator, thus forcing her to retreat from her escape route in the elevator and return to be captured by the hospital staff. As she rebuked John Conner later in the police cruiser, "I didn't need your help." She was right. She had nearly escaped on her own, but John interfered.
@@furtim1 The best part about that diatribe is that she's lecturing the guy SHE JUST TRIED TO MURDER. Which is why John cuts her off; her hypocrisy was counterproductive. Then when Dyson sacrifices himself in order to save the rest of them, she recognizes and accepts that she was wrong about him (and also about the Terminator)
One of the plot changes that may have helped would be to take the "lightspeed drive" concept and switch it for a sort of "blink drive" similar to the one seen in the TV show Dark Matter. The tactical and strategic advantage of being able to instantaneously pop across the galaxy or even from in front of your enemy to behind them would be both fascinating and in line with canon, and would function in a similar manner to the Space Stone, upon which the technology is supposedly based. In addition, it makes more sense for two warring interstellar empires to be vying for, as opposed to basic FTL technology.
As awesome as it could possibly be for a shit character and boring movie...not to mention have anyone else besides Brie as the actress would possibly make one of the biggest differences
Ah, the Drinker: helping confirm that Captain Marvel was yet another installment in the list of 'To make this halfway-decent, all they had to do was _try_ , and they didn't even do that' movies and TV shows.
Your Sarah Connor comparison was incredible. Current writers either hate the legacies of the past, or know nothing about them--neither are good recipes for a quality movie.
"Og, and I'd bring in the Don as her ultimate love interest." I would too, and would love to have seen it happen. Just for the like, and for the fact that they genuinely are similar in some aspects. Especially if following the rewrite you have provided. God, to have the Don as her ultimate love interest, would actually be a Great Idea!
What is it that they say? Relationships built on such conflicts early are usually the best ones :) [P.S. Not to try and dismantle my joke, but I have to. - While it is common conception, but that isn't what psychology studies have proven, opposites don't attract as much, and people with the most long term relationships have a lot more similarity on average].
These relationships have potential to become good with her updated delinquent character. I see at least a couple ways for it. If she falls for a jerk who can't actually harm her, and she clumsily tries to express feelings and establish relationships, it might be hilarious and heartwarming. Also, imagine she brought that Biker to the righteous heroes club, desperately trying to maintain facade of a great couple. That act would actually made Don fall for her. Her expressionless face with Don's remarks about "smiling more" could be a setup for a joke, when she squeezes atrocious menacing smile in the final battle. Cause she remembered his words and tried to act accordingly in the most difficult situation so far
It pisses me off when we get guys like you who give us a superior version of movies we'll never get and Marvel won't offer you a job when they need to...
Here is my review of Captain Marvel, ''Decent looking white lady with absolutely no backside has unlimited powers, and spends most of the movie in a spandex outfit that magnifies her complete lack of backside, all the while frowning at everything.''
When I first saw this film, I had an immediate problem. Why is the film set in the 90s? Carol is supposed a captain in the United States Air Force, in the present day, who is recruited to be a member of SWORD, a new branch of the government meant to deal with aliens. She's meant to have an accident, get her powers and go back and forth between the Avengers and SWORD, before becoming an Avenger full time. Her accident is supposed to reveal to the Avengers, the Secret Invasion of Skrulls, and their war against the Kree.
On all these ‘Strong’ Female characters is a character really strong when they are essentially perfect? Is a character that starts incredibly powerful using that power actually strong? Ellen Ripley challenging the Alien Queen in a powerloader is strength, to stand toe to toe with the ultimate organism takes courage and skill, overcoming Her fear for this foe She has almost died to several times, but beating the shit out of something/someone when you are totally over powered isn’t strength, its just power. Its a realisation I’ve just come to, these blank slate Mary Sue characters aren’t strong, they are just powerful, a small but utterly crucial difference.
It's the difference between Audie Murphy and Captain America. Captain America, facing two companies of German troops, has his own troops retire to regroup. He spots a burning tank-killer... and throws it at the Germans, killing half of them. He throws his magic shield, and kills the rest. Lieutenant Audie Murphy, facing two companies of German troops, radios for artillery. He sends his troops to regroup for a counter-attack. Meanwhile, he spots for the artillery, and climbs on the back of a tank-killer to use its 50 cal to shoot at the Germans, trying to slow their advance. He's wounded in the process, but holds on until the artillery discourages the Germans and the regrouped American forces return to the fight, his wound costing him a shot at West Point. No magic serum. No magic metal shield. No ability to throw tanks. Just a skinny kid from Texas who only wanted to keep his family together, not be a heeroh.
@@Hiraghm Well, the first is just using the tools they have at hand, when your hands are hammers, everyone looks like nails, the second is someone who is actually a hero, someone brave enough to land on a grenade, and save his troops, like the character was shown to be before cap was made into cap. it just so happens that they took the second person, and after his serious wound, powered him up to save others, as his will to sacrifice himself for his country and his brothers in arms wont let him retire so easily. It is a difference of including a backstory. Without a backstory to show the character overcoming strife and challenges, then it is just a mary sue, but with a backstory, even a kinda shitty one, that at least makes them a character. Asta from black clover is kinda sorta just a mary sue anime protagonist, but we are shown that he is completely powerless in a world with magic, and it just so happens (as we find out later) that makes him perfect for a magic destroying sword/book/demon. We are shown backstory (albeit ham fistedly) of him overcoming bullies, literally twice his size, to defend his brother, and his one character trait is he never gives up, even without arms he is willing to fight, the only person more OP than asta in that department might be someone like Ichigo from bleach, but even then, he sometimes takes convincing, or uses actual power instead of willpower to overcome. If you write an all powerful character, but give them no flaws that they overcome or have overcome, then they are just superman in white spandex, tabula rasa in every way, but if you write a weak character with no power who overcomes every challenge, then by the *end* they can be all powerful, simply because every challenge along the way was a step to becoming stronger, more powerful, and rising to the top. I guess the trick arrives in making the boring backstory interesting to watch, or giving it other characters who we find interesting too.
that is the number one flaw in these "strong female character" nowadays. they have no character. they are given everything. there's no reason to be invested in them at all. it's like watching a child complain about not getting enough presents a Christmas. it gets boring and irritating really fast and you wonder why you didn't just walk away sooner.
The "Carol 'AVENGER' Danvers" thing was corny, but not completely terrible. Having Nick Fury lose his eye to a cat scratch was basically a flat-out insult to the character.
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I hope that whoever came up with that burns in Hell
The thing with the cat is unforgivable for me. It’s why I have every MCU movie through Endgame, except Captain Marvel. The dolts couldn’t understand that Nick Fury’s mysterious nature is half the reason he succeeds as a character. I still haven’t even watched Capt Karen in it’s entirety. Doubt I ever will.
I'm guessing one of the reasons this character was included was so that there's be at least one cosmic hero in the Infinity storyline, as Adam Warlock and the Silver Surfer, who played a large part in the comic book version of the original story, don't show up here. But perhaps you remember the 90's X-Men cartoon series, where the mutant Rogue can fly and is super strong, even though her powers were that she could absorb the powers of other beings by touching them. And there was an episode in the cartoon series which explains how she stole the powers of...Carol Danvers. So down the road, if Marvel does bring mutants into the MCU movie series, her fate is sealed. Even if you made the character or the movie better or more likeable, in the end, she ain't gonna make it.
No man ever complaines about Ripley or Kill Bill. Everybody loves Samus Aran and at least respects Lara Croft. And yet these assholes pull the „wahmen hater“ card.
yeah I was hopeing on the end that she would actually fight him fist to fist , not just be cheapo and hand blast him as as that's just B move to make right there as he was training her to think better but in end she didn't catch on and still stayed same ignorant women who didn't learn a thing and wouldn't say losing memory's for 30 minutes is a weakness, as shame makes super man in dc films seem a lot more appealing and likable and that's saying something!
Toxic feminists is a better term. But your right about that. I mean it's one thing to fault men on their cruel actions but that doesn't mean women should get a pass just because 'girl power' . Equality works both ways.
yeah, the boy in the go cart was genuinely trying to help her out, her dad was upset not because she was a girl doing these things but an idiot doing these things. And the guy who said the cockpit line is just a drunk dude being rude and how feminists view men in general. Feminists wanna incite gender into everything these days and honestly I'm a little pissed, but whatever, hope you're doing well and peace.
This movie absolutely pissed me off for a reason my Western friends didn't pick up on: How a supposed hero has absolutely no shred of loyalty to anyone or anything but herself. She does not fight for anything that is larger than herself. That's not a hero, and it just validated for me that women do not understand what heroism is. Yeah, that's sexist but that's on the movie, not on me. Also, Jude Law saved her life and gave her a purpose, his purpose. Right or wrong, that means he was her mentor and master. In men's world of knights and samurai, that means Larson owed that man her loyalty, and if she had to defeat him for something larger than herself, it should have been as painful as killing a part of herself. Betraying him and fighting him should have been the hardest thing she ever had to do (if she understood loyalty), and could never have been done with disrespect and glee, which is apparently all that Larson can muster as if breaking up with and humiliating an ex. That also validates for me that we should never have women in the military. Yeah, that's sexist but that's on the movie, not on me.
It's emasculation. They did it to almost every male character in the movie in some way or another. Only the "empowered" female lead can be competent, they made most of the guys look like losers or be completely incompetent 🙄
fury is made into a cuck and a laughing stock in this movie, and also it all contradicts his character in the rest of the MCU, it's like two different people. it's complete bollocks
Yeah me and my friend just rewatched the marvel movies in chronological order and I noticed that they bring up that Fury lost an eye for a sec in one of the movies, I think it was either Steve or Tony that asked him about it, but he said something like he didn’t want to talk about it and it seemed implied that he lost it bc of some sort of traumatic experience, and then all of a sudden we find out it was just bc of a frickin cat. Idk. Maybe that’s nitpicky but it’s like they either didn’t remember or chose to actively ignore the character’s previous narrative. Anyway I def agree sorry this is a little late:)
Drinker, I wish you would quit besmirching planks of wood by comparing them to Brie Larson. The wood is good and doesn’t need the unnecessary trash talking.
Here’s my fix: at the end of the movie, Jude Law wrecks her. Kicks her ass in a hilariously one-sided fight, and leaves her for dead. Empire Strikes Back style. The last thing we see is her recovering, and saying how she needs to heal up so she can search the galaxy for this dude and get her revenge.It gives her an actual character arc, it shows that she isn’t as OP as she thought she was, it explains why she’s nowhere to be found in any Avengers conflicts, it sets up a more interesting sequel, and if she’s going to be a staple of the next phase of the MCU, it makes her someone who isn’t just going to snap her fingers and kill whatever enemies she wants.
if it was male with powers like that, same boring attitude and ego females would complained the film is toxic as they would probly flipped lid seeing ego male just blast female mentor and be like "I don't care about proving myself I am playing god here with no weakness"
@@ravenspurplebeats5412 if a male character was like that he would be pretty boring too. i mean superman is a much better character then captain marvel by a long shot but even he seems to be difficult to write well. so many of his adaptations have been pretty boring. thats the whole issue with writing overpowered characters. the key to writing good over powered characters is they need flaws and an interesting personality that you can pair with with adversaries who are either on their same level or even a bit above their level who present a difficult challenge to overcome (it helps a lot if the antagonist is also an interesting well written character). then you can have an interesting story. but when your character has no flaws, no personality AND no adversaries that present a challenge how can you expect to create an interesting story? at that point your pretty much trying to pull a jesus and create something from nothing.
The feminists activists hate men so much they decided the only way to move forward was to BECOME the egotist/outlaw with a perpetually shitty attitude (but don't you DARE try to temper them, thats sexist!).
During the hero's origin story, the jet engine blew up, knocking her back several feet so that when she hit the wall, she was turned into irradiated red paste before the rest of the movie even happened. There, I fixed it.
It would need to be recast, but I do like the idea of superpower version of Jason Bourne in the first film, taking down the cops in the park and then, in Drinker's words, trying to figure out wtf just happened.
Drinker, you're the best. When you finally get discovered and go mainstream and become the next (drunken) Roger Ebert, don't change. Don't change a thing
Captain Marvel is the perfect example of 2014-2019 feminism: strong, independent female protag is absolutely perfect and phenomenal in every single way there is. Every single challenge and villain falls before them, they can do absolutely anything and everything. God forbid there’s character flaws or development. How do you improve on a character when they’re already perfect.
You don't. That's why it's identity politics. You're just your identity. Character, personality and individuality brings in nuance. They'd probably consider that violence and oppression too, eventually.
The whole video was painful until you got to ~8:00 and Sarah Connor. Your analysis of her is so good and shows what fiction is capable of, planting seeds in our minds that we can all be better versions of ourselves. Great work!
"Oh a new C.D video" Reads title "Welp, he's gone mad." Watches video "You did it. I mean granted it still has Brie Larson but, you crazy, drunk son of a bitch, you did it."
"Oh a new C.D video" Reads title "Welp, he's scraping the bottom of the barrel again, complaining about hollywood blockbuster garbage that generally has little artistic merit"
@@NahImBats I guess you could say *I used to like* them. I'm still subbed because occasionally, he will have a good video worth watching. Just because I think most of the stuff he critiques is very low brow bottom of the barrel hollywood blockbuster popcorn flick trash, doesn't mean I can't *critique* his "critique".
I mean this in the absolute best way possible. The Drinker Fixes (or "Drinker Cut" someone said in another comment) sounds really close to superhero version of Goldie Hawn's "Overboard"...which I'd pay extra to actually watch. Braver Drinker. Bravo. 👍
I wish that every character in a movie that had their memories altered/erased by an antagonist 'woke up' with a profound sense of rage at what had been done to them. The best example of which was Sally Field in the 1976 movie, "Sybil" (multiple personality disorder) where she responded to the question, "what is your name?". "My name is SYBIL.........AND I REMEMBER!" She responded so angrily with much fury as she triumphed over all her broken memories to become one whole person instead of the 16 different personas she was spit into for years. Now give this moment to Brie Larson's character in this movie, so that we might have a little salt to our bland movie. Just think of the rage you would feel if someone polluted your memories enough to make you join the wrong side. Oh. Yeah. That.
Two things that would of helped with this character being OP. 1:Make her less durable. Have her super strength and super blasts still but make her some what easier to KO than say the Hulk or Thor. 2: Give her powers a time limit so she can't go binary all the time and has to use it wisely or risk burning out and has to wait a long period to recharge. Make her beatable and the stakes go up.
i agree, if they just included a plot point about how yes, she has immense cosmic power, but her body can only store so much, and unleashing the source to flow directly would damage her and burn her up, even if they never actually harm her, that is still *risk*. I would prefer her to lose an arm or something, or an eye, maybe take a gutshot, just so we see that god does bleed.
A time limit would play into her impulsive, hot headed characterization, allowed the more disciplined antagonist to bait her into wasteful attacks and wear her down with experience, which would make for a pretty good fight, I think.
@@Delta-es1lg Well, isn't it what should a decent team of screenwriters should have done in the first place to polish the script until it was rewarding. At the end of the day, it would have made their case for a strong female lead much plausible and thus, a neat hero to respect for the audience... I never understand how someone wants to make a statement, but don't care about making a compelling statement in the first place. Laziness? Entitlement?
A great female character for me is Éowyn in Lord of the rings, overcomes Grima Wormtongues toxic manipulation of her family and is infatuation with her, her acceptance of Aragon loving someone else and her fathers insistence that she not be part of the fight, to Killing the Witch King of Angmar. A great arc and character wonderfully realised and one of my favourite moments in the trilogy.
Still has a massive ego though and inflates it even more with her weak gendered comment as she kills the witch king. There's also a deleted scene where she single-handedly kills about 6 Urak Hai. Seriously, how divorced from reality are feminists these days?
@@StimParavane Read the book, don't watch the horrible movie(s). The first movie showed potential, the second one had me go 'uh-oh' when Jackson 're-imagened' characters and storylines and the third one.. I still can't watch any of them, even though I have them all on EE dvd. It's just cringeworthy. Read the book. Book!Eowyn is flawed (which makes her an interesting character), and while she is a capable fighter, we are told, through third-person-view Merry, that 'Dernhelm' (the name she goes under when disguising herself as a Rohirric warrior) is 'a young soldier' who is quietly surrounded by older warriors. She is also terrified, as she should be, because she has never been in real battle before, but she does go into battle, which shows her bravery. Eowyn's "I am no man", is said in defiance and in full knowledge that she is going to die (but more about that later). She keeps close to her uncle, the King, and he falls she defends his body from the Witch King. Now, the thing about the Nazgul Witch King is that, long ago, he sought immortality and was promised that he could not be killed/destroyed by any man. And so he, overconfidently, smashes Eowyn down (breaking her shield-arm in the process). But Merry, who is a hobbit, and not a Man, sneaks up on him and stabs him in the back of the knee, which startles, wounds and cripples him, so Eowyn, in pain, blindly stabs and because she is no Man either, and so not bound by prophecy or spelled protection, her stabwound is lethal to the Witchking. Eowyn and Merry are mortally wounded though, because of the contact with the Nazgul Witch King, and only Aragorn's healing saves their lives. Now the thing about Eowyn is that she is flawed: she despaired of life. She defied the orders to stay home, not because she was a Strong Woman, Stunning and Brave, but because she believed that everyone would die, that Sauron would win and that if she was going to die, she would prefer to die on the battle field. She went out to battle expecting, wanting to be killed, just as the heroes from the tales she grew up with. And this is essential. Because the backstory about Eowyn is that she grew up at court where Grima (called 'wormtongue' behind his back because he 'spoke with a forked tongue, just like a worm/dragon') clawed up into the position of advisor to the King. Grima is the ultimate manipulator, who quickly isolated the King from all others, filling his ears with tales about how weak he was, how weak the Rohirrim were and how it would be best to cast his lot with Saruman. Grima also isolated Eowyn, and 'woo'ed' her. Lusting after her and lusting after the position of kinsman-by-marriage to the King. He filled HER ears with the same tales as well, and harassed her in all manners in such a way that it was better for Eowyn to send her brother away from court because Eomer would've challenged or attacked Grima for his lewd pawings of his sister and then the King would've punished Eomer for 'daring to attack his advisor'. But this left Eowyn alone at court with a skeevy Grima and the only one who could protect her an uncle on the border of senility. She could've tried to go away from court, but that meant leaving her uncle in Grima's clutches, and she loved her uncle. She had soldiers and servants at court, but they were lower in rank than Grima. So she declared herself to be 'Shieldmaiden', which meant that she could not marry. She also learned how to hold a sword, but not in any spectacular way. The 'Shieldmaiden' thing was to protect herself from unwanted sollicitations. She because 'icy' and 'cold' - not how Tolkien believed a human should be. And then Aragorn comes to court and her people go to war and Grima disappears but she is still 'cold', she still believes Grima's lies about her culture, how lowly the Rohirrim were. He had done a good mindjob on her. So when she sees Aragorn who, for all that he is clothed in common gear, shines with his nobility, she longs for him to take her away, for her to be the Queen at his side. But Aragorn looks right through her and gently lets her down. He feels sorry for her, but he has loved Arwen for decades and he recognises that she 'loves' him for the wrong reasons. If she cannot flee from everything at Aragorns side, and if everything and everyone is going to die anyway (as she believes), she will go out fighting. But the King orders her to stay behind an organise the defense of her people back home. Which is a noble task for any shieldmaiden. But Eowyn is in deep despair (we would call it 'depressed') and disguises herself as a male warrior to 'seek a glorious death on the battlefield'. She barely survives. When the combined armies march to Mordor (to distract Sauron and give Frodo and Sam a chance to destroy the Ring, in fact sacrifying themselves), Eowyn is still to weak to join them, which embitters her even more as she is still seeking 'glorious death on the battlefield'. Faramir, whose mother withered away under Mordor's shadow and whose father commnitted suicied because of Sauron-induced despair, sympathises with her and pulls her out of her depression, daring her to hope, and she truly falls in love with him and dares to embrace and celebrate Life instead of despairing and seeking Death. Tolkien never, ever, ever conflated 'badass warrior' with 'being good and noble'. And he showed Eowyn to be as flawed as he could make any character by her succumbing to Despair, which he thought the worst human flaw. He was a veteran of the trenches and knew Despair up close and personal.
@@Smallpotato1965 Bravo! Great breakdown of that scene! People don't read the source material and thus don't realize that it wasn't a statement of "girl power," it was a statement of "checkmate."
What a great description of Eowyn and Faramir. LOTR still gives despite the decade passed by so quickly. The Drinker missed only one aspect - The Plank . . . sorry -actress choice. Imagine Gina Corano.
Also Hollywood: "Hey guys, please buy tickets to see our movies. We're struggling over here even after we've pandered endlessly to the 2% of the population that mobs us on Twitter every time we do the slightest thing to offend them. We just can't understand what's happening....."
My drunk dude, your synopsis or story treatment for Captain Marvel is amazing. Total fix. Best thing I've seen on your channel, and I watch regular. I missed this back when it was made, but my God, this is the version that Marvel should have gone with.
@M. Woller It reminds me of the phrase "any king who has to keep saying 'I am the king' is no true king". That makes them a bad/incompetent 'king'; in very much the same way as having to keep signalling "look, I am strong" or a "woman", also is self-defeating. True character isn't spoken, or flaunted; it is shown an lived without a need to keep it the constant focus of everything.
Towards the end of your retelling I got the early sensation of tears forming! Perhaps due to the emotional weight of the story you're telling, perhaps sadness from the missed opportunity that was this movie...
It's weird how similar Cap Marvel, Rey, and Dr Who all are so 'perfect' and strong and so much defined by words telling us their characteristics that dont mirror what we see. Daisy Ridley is at least a nice person.
Not so much. She had a super-cushy upbringing and says her co-star from Nigeria or wherever and she had it about equally hard growing up. That's being either aggressively stupid or purposely oblivious.
I watched Captain Marvel twice again on TNT, and she didn't have much in the way of a personality. AT least one I could read on her face. I was never in the "pretty if she smiled more" camp, but more "Make any facial expressions to convey what you feel!" one. I mean, she's Oscar-winning Actress Brie Larson, so she should have ACTED like it (unless the Oscars are bullshit)! I dig the Drinker's fixes, and I'll add that she shouldn't have acted in control and snarky all the time, especially once arriving on Earth. Give her that "stranger in a strange land" thing where she simultaneously does and doesn't recognize where she is, along with suspecting there's more to herself than the Kree told her while still fighting for them. Until the big reveal. If anyone was the best part of that movie, it was Sam Jackson as Nick Fury.
"I'm perfect and epic. Everyone else is wrong to doubt me. Watch as i dominate everything because you know, i'm perfect." Captain Marvel in a nutshell.
When Carol Danvers was Ms. Marvel she was waaaay interesting, struggling with alcoholism, and the thin line between being military, superhero and human. None of that level of depth is in her character in Captain Marvel.
They should have started with Ms. Marvel instead. It would been much better, and she would have to earn the captain marvel title later on. That plus get another actress other than Brie Larson.
Oh my gosh! It's so simple. And yet this is viewed as a week character by the woke crowd? Why? Sarah Connor, Thor, and Steve Rogers were all great examples to pull from.
