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The DUMBEST Debate in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes just won his 3rd Super Bowl. Thank you Bear for sponsoring! Click here bearmattress.com/thatsgood and use CODE: THATSGOOD to get 40% off your mattress + $400 Sleep Accessories for a limited time during their President’s Day Sale. If you miss this limited time offer, you can still get 30% off using my link! Offers subject to change.
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Patrick Mahomes just won his 3rd Super Bowl & 3rd Super Bowl MVP. He trails only quarterbacks Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw, & Tom Brady in Super Bowl rings. He’s been better than any QB through his first six seasons. Today we dive into the GOAT debate, compare Mahomes to his peers Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, & Lamar Jackson while also assessing how the Kansas City Chiefs QB stacks up historically to players like Peyton Manning & John Elway.
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@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports 3 месяца назад
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@TheGoffense8120
@TheGoffense8120 3 месяца назад
The opossum from your last video wants blood Brandon. Let him be the cover of the game.
@jacked4080
@jacked4080 3 месяца назад
Boomer
@LemonsGG
@LemonsGG 3 месяца назад
"I'm a man now" Perna (Post-op 2024)
@bossquan_gaming2171
@bossquan_gaming2171 3 месяца назад
The amount of shear blasphemy in the video is horrific ur videos are terrible and I hate how ur always ruining a good thing for the chiefs im sorry ur on the wrong team but mahomes is him if ur so upset u should have drafted him lmao
@bossquan_gaming2171
@bossquan_gaming2171 3 месяца назад
Bruh manning really ur kidding right I really like manning but damn he had such a good defense in Denver and oh he couldn’t get past Brady in Indy makes sense
@kalebhawkeyekj1933
@kalebhawkeyekj1933 3 месяца назад
Brandon "If Mahomes was a Bronco I would've called him the GOAT 3 Super Bowls ago" Perna
@Sam-ow4ws
@Sam-ow4ws 3 месяца назад
Average broncos fan
@stevenflack677
@stevenflack677 3 месяца назад
Hahaha, lmao..good one! 😂
@KCFan-DJ2OK
@KCFan-DJ2OK 3 месяца назад
He would obviously, he's just a Chiefs hater. Typical Broncos fan 😂😂.
@TotallyBakerMayfield
@TotallyBakerMayfield 3 месяца назад
@@KCFan-DJ2OKdoes kc hate them as much😭 or what's the deal because it seems only one sided
@KCFan-DJ2OK
@KCFan-DJ2OK 3 месяца назад
Oh we hate the Broncos too, there our division rival. All those years with Elway and then Peyton being there and dominating us sucked, now the tables have turned with us having Mahomes.
@arkeiou_
@arkeiou_ 3 месяца назад
Any sports fan can’t deny how Michael Jordan could dominate in Cristiano Ronaldo’s era
@markgilbertjr413
@markgilbertjr413 3 месяца назад
It’s like no one even realizes that Cristiano Ronaldo is a SYSTEM QUARTERBACK😒. Casuals istg
@GameOn0827
@GameOn0827 3 месяца назад
You just gave me a stroke.
@KjoshWaddellBananasAreGood
@KjoshWaddellBananasAreGood 3 месяца назад
Everyone forgets Montana was Deadly from 3! ​@markgilbertjr413
@matthewmolina2706
@matthewmolina2706 3 месяца назад
Who ?
@markgilbertjr413
@markgilbertjr413 3 месяца назад
@@KjoshWaddellBananasAreGood THANK you!
@hearmeoutplz7801
@hearmeoutplz7801 3 месяца назад
Not gonna lie, The GOTE (Greatest Of Their Era) acronym you used was genius.
@hearmeoutplz7801
@hearmeoutplz7801 3 месяца назад
LOOK, MOM! I’M FAMOUS!
@junyaiwase
@junyaiwase 3 месяца назад
@@hearmeoutplz7801dudeeee shut uppp
@DarrelWatkins77
@DarrelWatkins77 3 месяца назад
Not really
@jakeand9020
@jakeand9020 3 месяца назад
It's definitely more accurate. Considering how much the rules have changed, football today is an entirely different game than it was thirty or fifty years ago. Even early 2000's football, when Brady started, was less pass friendly than today.
@stevecarey4740
@stevecarey4740 3 месяца назад
Except Brady played long enough that it’s really the same era also but nice try lol
@rumpuvpigskin9566
@rumpuvpigskin9566 3 месяца назад
Impressive that Perna lasted over 19min until his body rejected giving a rival QB a legitimate compliment.
@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports 3 месяца назад
I've been on my death bed ever since.
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 месяца назад
There's only one thing to do, Brandon. You gotta burn the Curse wheel, it's clearly an agent for the Chiefs
@wc1994
@wc1994 3 месяца назад
As a Chiefs fan... NO!!! 😂
@outlaw2448
@outlaw2448 3 месяца назад
Or he can double down and get a 2nd wheel??
@olaftheblack2012
@olaftheblack2012 3 месяца назад
Curse wheel was our secret weapon all off-season. 🤣
@X525Crossfire
@X525Crossfire 3 месяца назад
Brandon: *reads the Made In on the back of the Curse Wheel* "Made in...Kansas City?!"
@c0mf0rta61ynum6
@c0mf0rta61ynum6 3 месяца назад
He needs to get a Bless Wheel and make EVERY spot the Chiefs. That is the only way to curse them.
@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports 3 месяца назад
Uploaded the wrong edit. Thank you for coming back lol
@flybirdsfly2091
@flybirdsfly2091 3 месяца назад
Your welcome
@TheGoffense8120
@TheGoffense8120 3 месяца назад
The Opossum from your last video wants blood Brandon, feed the possum and put him on the cover
@OakAsmr
@OakAsmr 3 месяца назад
FIRST REPLY AS A COLTS FAN I HOPE AR IS AMAZING AND THEN THE BRONCOS GET HIM TO WIN IN HIS LATER YEARS
@MFBloosh
@MFBloosh 3 месяца назад
We're all Pernagraphers here.
@Godzeller3143
@Godzeller3143 3 месяца назад
Jokes on you, I didn’t see the first upload
@yamaha-rb9tk
@yamaha-rb9tk 3 месяца назад
Elway carrying the lambardi trophy to the chiefs in the raiders new stadium well never get old.
@flamingfish6850
@flamingfish6850 3 месяца назад
Just needed the chargers to contribute in some way
@craigcampbell8560
@craigcampbell8560 3 месяца назад
@@flamingfish6850 They managed to Charger themselves into not having any part of it because they're the Chargers.
@michaelnyanteng6130
@michaelnyanteng6130 3 месяца назад
​@@flamingfish6850Tranquil was on the chargers last season is now won the superbowl with the chiefs
@runninfree0727
@runninfree0727 3 месяца назад
The look on his face was priceless!!
@chrism70kc
@chrism70kc 3 месяца назад
@@flamingfish6850 The Chargers contributed to this Super Bowl the way they've contributed to every Super Bowl - by not being there when the game is over.
@triplerinse
@triplerinse 3 месяца назад
Mahomes having a defensive is like Happy Gilmore learning to putt. Happy learned how to putt. Uh... oh
@MrBlue3rd
@MrBlue3rd 3 месяца назад
There will be some defensive turnover but the Chiefs will likely be better on offense next year.
@johnny__topside
@johnny__topside 3 месяца назад
I mean, Chiefs have had a top 10 defense in points allowed every year of his career except 2018 and 2022. This year just happened to be the very best defense he’s had. He’s great, but his defense has been good for a while too
@johnedward8352
@johnedward8352 3 месяца назад
Yup they'll be in their happy place for the next decade. Reap it.
@taleywalley
@taleywalley 3 месяца назад
@@johnny__topsideAnyone that has eyes knows that 2018 defense wasn’t good. It was horrible actually
@triplerinse
@triplerinse 3 месяца назад
@johnny__topside uh half and half. Chiefs have had a decent defense untill McDuffie and Williams the cb were very weak. Just Sneed. That results in the team being burnt by long plays. We will see how the Sneed contract works out.
@nickhess1702
@nickhess1702 3 месяца назад
I just know it hurt Perna to say "Patrick Lavon Mahomes II"
@Iswearitsnotme1
@Iswearitsnotme1 3 месяца назад
Crazy stat: When Marino threw 48 tds to break the td pass record he doubled the amount of tds thrown by the second place QB. That made Marino literally 100% more valuable than the competition. When Brady threw 50 TDS he only threw 28% more than second place.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 3 месяца назад
Marino's 1984 season is such a wild outlier in football. 2000s era stats two decades too early.
@j.a.greene3523
@j.a.greene3523 3 месяца назад
Also makes you realize how good the 1984 49ers were.
@bumiangkara5669
@bumiangkara5669 3 месяца назад
playoff????
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 3 месяца назад
@@j.a.greene3523 you ain't kidding.
@chicken29843
@chicken29843 3 месяца назад
Meh. Marino started super strong but petered off after year 5.
@whatwhatwhat2939
@whatwhatwhat2939 3 месяца назад
this man's content is lightyears beyond anything on cable sports. maybe it's the platform and the independence but we all remember when ESPN used to be fun like this, before it became who's arguing with SAS now.
@amerikaOnFire
@amerikaOnFire 3 месяца назад
As a native Kansan and living in KC, and a fan of the Chiefs, my wife and I watch all of your videos. Not only do you make great points pretty often while also throwing in some hilarity, but you know how to actually give props to people who deserve it even if it hurts all the way to your soul to say it haha. Thank you and keep doing what you do, we love it!
@krishoskins9437
@krishoskins9437 3 месяца назад
I second this. Love your videos
@chazj2175
@chazj2175 3 месяца назад
I third it😂
@CMilla54
@CMilla54 3 месяца назад
49ers on that 5-year edging steak
@joshdangit1612
@joshdangit1612 3 месяца назад
the cowboys are on year 28 of their streak lmao
@deemity7557
@deemity7557 3 месяца назад
@@joshdangit1612you do realize the Niners haven’t won a SB longer than the Cowboys right?😂
@mattfavazza552
@mattfavazza552 3 месяца назад
At least they have made it to the dance since.
@_Bungus
@_Bungus 3 месяца назад
@@joshdangit1612 Saying that they've been edging for the past 28 years would imply that they've been close to climaxing for while, but they haven't even been to a championship in that time span, lol
@joshdangit1612
@joshdangit1612 3 месяца назад
@_Bungus oh I know, but every single year, they think it's their year its insanity😂
@806texan
@806texan 3 месяца назад
That 7-for-7 stat in the playoffs 😂"what in the actual f#%k!" hahaha
@stephensybert3237
@stephensybert3237 3 месяца назад
This is why I hate the media obsession with QBs. I think that it could be potentially easily argued that Peyton Manning was probably a little better as a technical QB than Brady. However, Brady had much better defenses than Manning. The team is so much bigger than just the QB, but the QB is still really important. A great QB allows for continuity for team success. But if you put a bunch of terrible players around that QB they’re not gonna look as good. If you want proof of that look at College football.
@jmatki1217
@jmatki1217 3 месяца назад
Still take Brady over Manning all day every day. Dude just got it done year in year out. Love the lazy take “Durr Brady always had elite defenses” which is patently false
@stephensybert3237
@stephensybert3237 3 месяца назад
@@jmatki1217 it’s not a lazy take . Matt Cassel took the Pats to an 11-5 record when Brady went down for the year. When Manning was out for the year in Indianapolis the Colts were the worst team in the league.
@mani-xc9rs
@mani-xc9rs 3 месяца назад
@@stephensybert3237Manning was objectively bad in the playoffs, he wasn’t good in either of his 2 SB runs or any of his 4 SB games. Brady wasn’t exactly always good either but he had far more moments and runs where he was great than Manning did.
@stephensybert3237
@stephensybert3237 3 месяца назад
@@mani-xc9rs You’re kind of proving my point here which is that we over equate team success with individual quarterback success. First and foremost Manning is the Super Bowl 41 MVP, so he did play well in at least one Super Bowl. I’m not trying to say that Tom Brady isn’t absolutely one of the greatest players in the history of football, he absolutely is maybe the greatest. But to say he won so many championships based on him alone is false. Hell, even when he went and won one with the Bucs, he helped kind of build that team around him, and what did he make sure they had?? A great defense. Also Brady has openly admitted to adapting his game to be more like Manning’s as he matured. Tom Brady is one of the greatest football players ever, but Peyton Manning revolutionized the quarterback position as we know it into the field general model we recognize today.
@mani-xc9rs
@mani-xc9rs 3 месяца назад
@@stephensybert3237 Nobody says it’s based on him alone. But to act like manning didn’t lose several games in the playoffs due to his own inadequate play is ridiculous. His loss to the patriots in 03 & 04 were on him, to the Steelers in 05, to the chargers in 07 & 08, the Saints in 09, jets in 2010. His defenses played good enough to win those games and he didn’t come through. That’s not to say that Brady doesn’t have games like that because he does but he also has a lot more games where he came through than Manning does.
@arachnofiend2859
@arachnofiend2859 3 месяца назад
What really makes a GOAT is the propensity for other teams to just randomly fall apart in front of them. That's what keeps Manning and Marino out of the conversation
@oNextq
@oNextq 3 месяца назад
Goat debates in team sports especially one like football are so funny and pretty much completely pointless
@EJTunaFish
@EJTunaFish 3 месяца назад
@@oNextqThat just means you don’t understand how one player can effect every single player on the field
@Dougie1969
@Dougie1969 3 месяца назад
Yeah Isn't that weird In the first half 49ers offense and defense was clearly better. Then just like someone flicked a switch. Almost like it was scripted.
@bornanabrute
@bornanabrute 3 месяца назад
​@@Dougie1969😂
@Freddie7191
@Freddie7191 3 месяца назад
Guys like Brady or Mahomes scare teams into doing dumb stuff just because they don't want to be another statistic.
@58ikejr
@58ikejr 3 месяца назад
That change to GOTE and fake ending the video had me dead lol
@feliciaw.9248
@feliciaw.9248 3 месяца назад
This is the argument I've been making for years. You made the argument better and funnier with greater examples. Love the jokes! I'll be sending folks this video when they balk at me for not believing in the GOAT argument when it comes to football in particular.
@paulweston8408
@paulweston8408 3 месяца назад
As a 57 year old, I remember singing a made-up song in slow pitch softball. "Are you the hero or the goat?"? I haven't thought about that in 35 years. God I'm old!😢
@Rateus_Johanson
@Rateus_Johanson 3 месяца назад
Brandon rocking with a hoodie that naturally forms The Raiders' crest I see. Interesting ;-)
@Omen465
@Omen465 3 месяца назад
The chiefs have overtaken the raiders in which teams we hate the most
@williamgreene2164
@williamgreene2164 3 месяца назад
And as a Chiefs fan enjoy this victory… it’s going to be a long time before you see another one 😏
@DuBoisweb88
@DuBoisweb88 3 месяца назад
Oh shit I remember those Adam Sandler tapes. Those were hilarious
@ZiggyZou
@ZiggyZou 3 месяца назад
I remember it too omg😂
@stevengreene7389
@stevengreene7389 3 месяца назад
And now the severe beating of a high school janitor.
@mattoliver7270
@mattoliver7270 3 месяца назад
Just the fact that you brought up that they were on tape makes me feel old. Ha
@yezzir8929
@yezzir8929 3 месяца назад
Like Tollbooth Willie! lol
@dirtyhiggins5484
@dirtyhiggins5484 3 месяца назад
"Piece of shit car" is a great song too
@waterDrinker13
@waterDrinker13 3 месяца назад
Goat debate is peak lazy journalism, everyone is doing that when there's nothing bettter to talk about in sports, I hate it (basketball and football)
@TheShepdawg9
@TheShepdawg9 3 месяца назад
Thank you. All of these debates are void of nuance.
@NotMyActualName_
@NotMyActualName_ 3 месяца назад
It's a debate because the talking heads need stuff to talk about
@TheShepdawg9
@TheShepdawg9 3 месяца назад
Exactly this. The media need individuals to discuss in order to create buzz.
@dougdrazga4461
@dougdrazga4461 3 месяца назад
And most of them think the sport didn't exist until they first saw it.
@briano9397
@briano9397 3 месяца назад
The Goat Skit from Adam Sandler is legendary 😂😂😂 same with the other skits and songs on that album. I still say "the night time is the right time" to this day 😂
@OttoTheWeim
@OttoTheWeim 3 месяца назад
Tollbooth Willy was always one of my favorites.
@chizorama
@chizorama 3 месяца назад
As long as you aren't singing about your shampoo bottle... 😳
@user-lg3zl5pv7q
@user-lg3zl5pv7q 3 месяца назад
Fuck the sun, I fucking hate it too. Long live the fucking beast.
@shawna.4601
@shawna.4601 3 месяца назад
“One day he’ll get too close & I’ll bite his fucking ear off! That’s a promise” “take it easy” “I know, I know I’m all talk & can’t even bite through the fucking rope” haha classic!
@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports 3 месяца назад
Hahahahaha I do the same thing!
@KarasMP
@KarasMP 3 месяца назад
Damn, what a smart analysis and amazing presentation. U the GOTE of RU-vid sports analysis,Perna.
@bradyduzeski7412
@bradyduzeski7412 3 месяца назад
The ending to the video was perfect! I watched it back several times and laughed hard each time! Perfect callback lol
@davidmilla2043
@davidmilla2043 3 месяца назад
Been following you for a couple years and this is my all time favourite vid u have done! The funny thing is, when I saw the title I was confident this would be a great vid!
@Nicball505
@Nicball505 3 месяца назад
“Balls deep into the goat”😂😂😂
@dominicpancella3012
@dominicpancella3012 3 месяца назад
Pretty sure that line is in the Quran somewhere
@junyaiwase
@junyaiwase 3 месяца назад
@@dominicpancella3012probably
@NecroticCortex
@NecroticCortex 3 месяца назад
​@@dominicpancella3012This fucking SENT me 🤣
@tylermelvin6956
@tylermelvin6956 3 месяца назад
There’s no way I just saw a Taylor Swift screaming goat meme in 2024
@fabiomassimocapasso7028
@fabiomassimocapasso7028 3 месяца назад
yess. It made me feel kinda old
@charityquill4965
@charityquill4965 3 месяца назад
@@fabiomassimocapasso7028 but probably inevitable at some point, as even the boomers are becoming very aware of the whole travis/taylor excitement and are digging through the most ancient facebook memes on the face of the earth to talk about it
@stopbeingakeyboardkillermo4112
@stopbeingakeyboardkillermo4112 3 месяца назад
I was always told that Ali started the GOAT talk, before Jordan, Gretsky and Brady!!!
@Renegade-kf8fp
@Renegade-kf8fp 3 месяца назад
Mahomes bout to redefine it
@BrianK-zz4fk
@BrianK-zz4fk 3 месяца назад
hes the only one that said it about himself and might be unlike lebum
@tobythedevil1874
@tobythedevil1874 3 месяца назад
​@@Renegade-kf8fp not happening lad
@chicken29843
@chicken29843 3 месяца назад
Well he got it from watching wrestlers as a kid or something
@johnmaxwell1356
@johnmaxwell1356 3 месяца назад
LOL, that ending was HILARIOUS. If I haven't said it enough...I love this channel. Perna, you may be the GOTE of the internet.
@jeremyscott6448
@jeremyscott6448 3 месяца назад
Your show is so good 😂 keep doing what you’re doing!
@Moffetmonkey
@Moffetmonkey 3 месяца назад
Really liked the editing on this video good job!
@dennismenace1756
@dennismenace1756 3 месяца назад
You are the best. I'm a Chiefs fan and your humor keeps me watching every video. That bit at the end almost had me in tears.
@JupiterJazzX
@JupiterJazzX 3 месяца назад
As a football fan I am sick of this debate. I know it gets ratings but football is my favorite precisely because it's a team sport and now they're injecting that NBA basketball star oriented filth into the game of football when the reason so many of us like football is for the teams. It's just tiring.
@_Bungus
@_Bungus 3 месяца назад
Welcome to the era of social media. All that matters is whoring out for attention. Nobody wants to pay attention to actually thought-out discussions, they want everything to be bite-sized so they can consume it without thought and move on. If your take can't be described in a sentence, most people won't care to pay attention to it. Goes for every topic under the sun, too.
@Iswearitsnotme1
@Iswearitsnotme1 3 месяца назад
There is also the fact that it’s hard to compare QBs from different eras. The rules have changed so as to give so much advantage to the passing game and the stats reflect that. And QBs last longer and are healthier because it’s become basically illegal to hit them in the pocket.
@Renegade-kf8fp
@Renegade-kf8fp 3 месяца назад
And yet offences were down leaguewide the last two seasons
@johnnycash8567
@johnnycash8567 3 месяца назад
@@Renegade-kf8fpdown compared to what tho?
@_Bungus
@_Bungus 3 месяца назад
@@johnnycash8567 The years prior. As in, offense this year was down compared to last, and offense last year was down compared to the year before that.
@BrianK-zz4fk
@BrianK-zz4fk 3 месяца назад
@@Renegade-kf8fphow were they down they had an extra game😂
@dyoutube439
@dyoutube439 3 месяца назад
That's why Superbowl rings has more weight than stats. Stats will be affected by rules and evolution of the game. Winning has to do with dominating your peers.
@almojr84
@almojr84 3 месяца назад
It's a dumb debate. He's only played six seasons and won 3 superbowls. He's the best qb of his generation. But let's just enjoy what we're watching and let it unfold
@justinwilson1526
@justinwilson1526 3 месяца назад
One of my favorite vids of yours. Good stuff man!
@mattoliver7270
@mattoliver7270 3 месяца назад
This truly was one of your best videos yet. Getting really good at this "Balls Deep" thing.
@animesempai0
@animesempai0 3 месяца назад
im fucking crying cause of the ending lmaoooo🤣🤣🤣🤣 w man im gonna sub
@richardgoepfert4152
@richardgoepfert4152 3 месяца назад
I gotta say it was very special to see Elway present the Lombardi 😂
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 3 месяца назад
And on the Raiders' home field, no less! If only there had been some Chargers-related aspect, we could have rubbed all of the AFC West's faces in this game...
@deemity7557
@deemity7557 3 месяца назад
@@DamonNomad82Chargers gifted us Drue Tranquil😂. When Nick Bolton went down, Drue stepped in and performed admirably
@jakecarcopa632
@jakecarcopa632 3 месяца назад
Love your channel man! Everyone as a fan has bias I like how you use yours as comic relieve while stating the facts. keep up the great content and we will watch!!!
@zak28lexus
@zak28lexus 3 месяца назад
You brought back so many memories with that Adam Sandler's goat bit. I had that joke tape. 😂
@FrancoDFernando
@FrancoDFernando 3 месяца назад
The funny thing is Mahomes would be the first guy to credit his teammates
@MrMurder0321
@MrMurder0321 3 месяца назад
The fact you used Adam Sandlers comedy CD shows how old we are
@tyrionstrongjaw7729
@tyrionstrongjaw7729 3 месяца назад
The fact that I laughed and rewinded to listen to it a 2nd time definitely shows how old I am
@NotMeNaNaNa
@NotMeNaNaNa 3 месяца назад
Yes I’m surprised he didn’t reference “The Lonesome Kicker” when he mentioned the Bills whether it was Scott Norwood or the more recent Tyler Bass 😂
@stevengreene7389
@stevengreene7389 3 месяца назад
They’re all going to laugh at you!
@EliHansen729
@EliHansen729 3 месяца назад
Liking and commenting for the algorithm, also used your bear mattress link and code 👍🏼🤙🏼
@funkle4200
@funkle4200 3 месяца назад
you're an incredible writer lmao love the content
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 3 месяца назад
I’m old enough to remember the Joe Montana era and, despite me being a longtime Chiefs fan, I’ve always felt he was the greatest QB I’ve ever seen play.
@DjOnD0pe
@DjOnD0pe 3 месяца назад
bears could have drafted him and we could ha e avoided all these conversations
@xConceptz1
@xConceptz1 3 месяца назад
I apologize for how long it took for me to find your channel…and am pissed at youtube’s algorithm for hiding it from me! New subscriber, yes i deserve a cookie, thank you for the newfound content 🔥
@coyohma8947
@coyohma8947 3 месяца назад
I'll never understand why people look at the Dee Ford play, with Gronk bricking the pass off his hands, and react as if Brady threw it directly to the defense
@HenryDaNinth
@HenryDaNinth 3 месяца назад
As a Bears fan, I will gladly sleep on a Bear mattress. Hopefully the right one arrives the first time lol
@NotMeNaNaNa
@NotMeNaNaNa 3 месяца назад
As a fellow Bears fan I will gladly take just one ring from either Fields or Williams to go with at least a 4000yd season and 30 PTD 😭 If only we had the chance to draft a guy like Mahomes… wait, what was that, we did. We even traded up in that draft… and we still didn’t pick him 😡 At least we have the Lions and Vikings in our division… they don’t even have a 1985 to keep going back to 😜
@jimmyjams9036
@jimmyjams9036 3 месяца назад
Fellow Bears fan for over 40 years. How have the Bears not even accidentally had a star quarterback in their history? It don’t make sense. They should draft a QB every single draft until they figure it out.
@NotMeNaNaNa
@NotMeNaNaNa 3 месяца назад
@@jimmyjams9036 another lesser talked about one… 2005 draft all the buzz was “who would go #1- Smith or Rodgers?”. Yes they drafted Grossman in the 1st round two years prior, but he still hadn’t proven anything. We had the #4 pick and despite being terrorized by Favre for the last 13yrs and Manning and Brady showing that you needed an excellent QB to be successful Jerry Angelo said “let’s pretend it’s 1985 again and hope this Cedric Benson is the next Walter Payton.” 🤦‍♂️ Adding insult to injury they still picked a QB that year in the 4th round, but it was the marvel of mediocrity that was Kyle Orton 🤣 And go figure that guy we passed on would make us yearn for the years when Favre didn’t quite own us as much 😭
@Ryan-wx1bi
@Ryan-wx1bi 3 месяца назад
It all depends on who is the mattress packer, since they own the bears
@ndrocca
@ndrocca 3 месяца назад
It feels sports media has always been like this with QBs that win early. Watch any sports program from the mid 2000s and Brady was already getting GOAT talks after his first 3 Super Bowl rings.
@mike9031
@mike9031 3 месяца назад
Because they are doing things that took previous QBs their entire career to do. Not many QBs have 3 Superbowls. Muchless as fast as they are getting there
@TheShepdawg9
@TheShepdawg9 3 месяца назад
​@@mike9031Team. Accomplishment. How many times do you idiots have to hear this before it registers?
@marcusjenkins5371
@marcusjenkins5371 3 месяца назад
⁠@@mike9031Exactly. Some may find it annoying but the statistics, awards, and rings all prove Mahomes’ historical greatness. He has no peers at the moment. With another ring, he would officially become the second greatest QB behind Brady
@ndrocca
@ndrocca 3 месяца назад
@@marcusjenkins5371I agree and Mahomes deserves so much credit for what KC has accomplished despite roster turnover, but I find it annoying when we give GOAT distinctions to guys who’s careers aren’t even half over. There was a time when Manning was seen as a perennial choker, when Steve Young was just Montana’s backup and Johnny Unitas was on the Steelers. All those guys became all-time great QBs in time. On the other side, you have guys like Marino who seem like they’ll own the NFL after 1984 or Aikman winning 3 Super Bowls in his first 7 seasons and never winning a playoff game after that. Basketball/NBA is even worse about this, but it feels like we are so quick anoint someone as ‘a GOAT’ to the point that it doesn’t feel that important anymore. We don’t know what will happen in the future. Let’s see where we’re at in 10 or even just 5 years later. Mahomes may have 8 rings, maybe he’ll only have 3.
@Efrencit017
@Efrencit017 3 месяца назад
@@mike9031yeah exactly
@andrewalden8364
@andrewalden8364 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this! Can we not just watch and appreciate what we’re seeing without hearing GOAT hot takes every other minute?
@davidstoyanoff
@davidstoyanoff 3 месяца назад
The best thing about the goat debate is that people like you give us 20 minutes of content. And we all get to argue about it. Like it used to be in the college football National championship debate. Good times good times
@patrickkirkham
@patrickkirkham 3 месяца назад
I agree it’s the laziest, easiest conversation for these sports talk shows and they do it seems like almost monthly
@Renegade-kf8fp
@Renegade-kf8fp 3 месяца назад
Not just sports It’s everywhere
@starwarsROXmy
@starwarsROXmy 3 месяца назад
As a 54 year old and longtime fan of the NFL, I've lived through multiple dynasties and many great QBs. I was always privy to Montana as a Notre Dame fan even though I am a GIants fan and I still maintain he's one of the greatest. I feel as if the younger generations don't really enjoy the sport anymore as much as they like to argue about trivial things, instead of just appreciating the greatness in front of you. Everyone is a fraud now or was carried by his team or something to that effect. Mahomes is one of the most talented QBs I've ever seen and I just enjoy and appreciate his greatness while he's playing. That's just how I feel. I don't need to debate who's the GOAT or whatever.
@dougdrazga4461
@dougdrazga4461 3 месяца назад
I'm 52 and saw all of these guys too. Mahomes is the most "inevitable" QB I've seen since Elway. Maybe he will be the best once it's all said and done, but yeah, it does seem folks don't appreciate what they see for what it is. Bradshaw was my guy as a Steelers fan in the 70s, but is he the GOAT? Who cares?
@drewschluter7249
@drewschluter7249 3 месяца назад
Always appreciate you perna!!! Even as a chiefs fan I always love your work brother
@JDRedding
@JDRedding 3 месяца назад
Good stuff, got a few chuckles out of this ... thanks
@KelleyGreenEcstasy
@KelleyGreenEcstasy 3 месяца назад
I can't wait to tell my kids about this video around the plastene 7-11 branded radiator off the coast of the eastern garbage archipelago
@Sixfortyfive
@Sixfortyfive 3 месяца назад
More than anything else, people who obsess over this question strike me as people who are completely unable to just enjoy the moment for what it is. As a Chiefs fan, I'm still over the moon on Mahomes' previous Super Bowl victory because I'm still floored that he did it on one leg. Dude could've retired after that season and I wouldn't have cared that he wasn't the GOAT because I'm not sure I'm ever going to see something more impressive than that in my life. Just savor the moment. You don't need to get emotionally attached to things that haven't even happened yet. It also just cheapens the whole idea of an "all-timer" if you're so eager to apply the label so quickly.
@greg4179
@greg4179 3 месяца назад
First time I was glad I didn't skip the ad. You got a beautiful family man, thanks for sharing with us
@RoughToughTonkasGotTheStuff
@RoughToughTonkasGotTheStuff 3 месяца назад
I'm proud of the growth and maturity you displayed in this video ;)
@GrossiPernaShow
@GrossiPernaShow 3 месяца назад
Booooooomer
@ojuice54
@ojuice54 3 месяца назад
The GOTE solution is a GOAT solution
@Jdeneik
@Jdeneik 3 месяца назад
Excellent analysis!!!!! In the end who has the most NFL individual records ranked by importance from the pundits.
@TheAk1292
@TheAk1292 3 месяца назад
So this is Branden (not Michael) Perna's channel. Interesting. I guess it came up in my feed because I recently subscribed to TG. I had no idea who it was lol. I only watch NFL highlights on RU-vid yet both you and TG are entertaining enough even for non NFL junkies like myself. I'm not a fan of multiple F-bombs but this is a great video and I'm a new subscriber :)
@tristinjudd2595
@tristinjudd2595 3 месяца назад
We saw that Perna. What are you hiding in the original video???
@thatsgoodsports
@thatsgoodsports 3 месяца назад
My Adam Sandler reference that I inserted lol
@tristinjudd2595
@tristinjudd2595 3 месяца назад
@@thatsgoodsportslol 🤣
@user-qo2tv8yr3d
@user-qo2tv8yr3d 3 месяца назад
Booomer
@johnmajor7053
@johnmajor7053 3 месяца назад
Best episode I’ve seen. Really well done.
@Jugglingtedchannel
@Jugglingtedchannel 3 месяца назад
Thank you Brandon P.! What you shared is very educational and helpful, especially the final drive stats. And yes, we will always want to know or choose who "The Best" is, I'm not sure why, but maybe we all want to know who the best is so that we can idolize them or have a goal to shoot for. Well done!
@brobeast9053
@brobeast9053 3 месяца назад
“Mahomes had the better team around him” His receivers can’t catch the ball and Josh Allen has Stefon Diggs and Gabe Davis.
@Zipgun66
@Zipgun66 3 месяца назад
Gabe is so inconsistent and Stefon wasn't Stefon when he needed to be. KC's defense was better and not decimated with injuries. Surprised Buffalo made it as far as they did. It isn't Josh's fault. It doesn't matter who the QB is for Buffalo, even Jesus would lose. This city needs an exorcism.
@DA-yl8js
@DA-yl8js 3 месяца назад
It really is a stupid argument, especially in a team sport(though baseball is more of a team sport than football). No quarterback can lead a comeback if the defense doesn't get a stop.
@cjvaye99
@cjvaye99 3 месяца назад
exactly. having a goat in basketball makes sense because one player can make all the difference between winning and losing and one player regardless of position can dominate the game individually on both sides of the court. in football it's just stupid to try and say someone is the goat bc there's so many positions and two different sides of the ball. baseball to a lesser extent (I don't think it's as stupid to say someone is the goat in baseball bc players play both offense and defense unlike football)
@mani-xc9rs
@mani-xc9rs 3 месяца назад
I love how every year people like you pick the Bills over the Chiefs headed into the playoffs, passionately arguing that they are the better team and that it’s finally Allen’s moment. Only to retroactively spew nonsense about Allen being at such a disadvantage in roster talent.
@minimarine77
@minimarine77 3 месяца назад
Great content. Please keep it up
@ult_mpx
@ult_mpx 3 месяца назад
Also Mahomes has no controversies surrounding his wins. No Spy-gate, No Deflate-Gate
@mazdakmina9493
@mazdakmina9493 3 месяца назад
Which is why Brady fanboys/racists were so desperate to create ones - hence a completely and utterly false rumor about Mahomes "testing positive for steroids after Super Bowl LVII" trended last year! 🤬🤬🤬 That's a blatant admission by those people that they know there's no point in comparing cheaters to non-cheaters!
@night_wolf6621
@night_wolf6621 3 месяца назад
At least not yet, nobody questioned the pats rings until spy gate got dropped in 2007 and deflate gate happened in 2014 AFC championship the rings they won after we know for a fact those balls were under lock and key
@duelist301
@duelist301 3 месяца назад
Everyone just claims that he has the refs in his pocket.
@peterroberts4415
@peterroberts4415 3 месяца назад
​@@night_wolf6621tuck rule
@Dougie1969
@Dougie1969 3 месяца назад
​@@duelist301 He doesn't?
@Dragonwolf920
@Dragonwolf920 3 месяца назад
I'd rather Mahomes be labeled the goat over brady. Brady was so vanilla and boring to me, while i actually have fun watching Mahomes. I hope he surpasses Brady
@rbenoit1978
@rbenoit1978 3 месяца назад
He needs 10 SBs and a 3peat for consideration.
@MaestroShaSha
@MaestroShaSha 3 месяца назад
That was a perfectly funny ending sequence to this video. 😂
@mattmehne212
@mattmehne212 3 месяца назад
The first edit was also flawless. Thanks Perna
@HugeChungus
@HugeChungus 3 месяца назад
Mahomes is the best quarterback I’ve ever seen play in the nfl. That’s why he’s the best lol
@Joe-rz3fd
@Joe-rz3fd 3 месяца назад
I've heard of a third definition of goat: someone you take to the Survivor finale because you're confident you can beat them
@marinoderienzo3176
@marinoderienzo3176 3 месяца назад
Greatest ending to any video ever. Hahaha I'm dying.
@jim2431
@jim2431 3 месяца назад
I love your show 😂
@TYMEproductions111
@TYMEproductions111 3 месяца назад
Last
@michaelreich4827
@michaelreich4827 3 месяца назад
Remember when everyone assumed Tiger Woods would destroy Nicklaus' majors record back in 2008? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Let it play out.
@ssaepa1
@ssaepa1 3 месяца назад
Rock star lines, I can still hear the old guys voice
@JoeSmoov
@JoeSmoov 3 месяца назад
Big fan of your show. Definitely keeps me entertained. Also I understand the pain of being a Bronco fan.
@the_chandler
@the_chandler 3 месяца назад
I just want to stop the video and tell you that I died when you put on the Adam Sandler goat. I hadn't heard that in 20 years and still quoted it word for word. What a gem.
@leviarnhold6427
@leviarnhold6427 3 месяца назад
As a chiefs fan, but also a subscriber for about two years now, thanks for this video. I’m sure it’s hard living in the shadow of KC right now (we lived in the broncos shadow for at least a decade). Good info and good opinions in the video. I agree, Mahomes isn’t the goat (yet) but just let the man play and we will see where the chips land.
@itsokthen
@itsokthen 3 месяца назад
Its crazy how the Bills are 2 plays away from beating the Chiefs twice but the narratives have no nuisance. I'd be suprised if Mahomes gets more than 2 more Super Bowls tho. So many insanely good young QBs in the AFC. Way tougher competition than what Brady had imo
@RFWieder
@RFWieder 3 месяца назад
Let's see, Mahomes has three Superbowl rings and the Bills have....?
@_Bungus
@_Bungus 3 месяца назад
@@RFWieder Did you read this dude's comment or watch the video? The point of the discussion is that people place way too much emphasis on one single stat line as the be-all, end-all for defining the quality of a QB that ignores ALL the context it exists within. And here you are, ignoring the context and reducing the entire conversation to "muh rings."
@foxmustang80
@foxmustang80 3 месяца назад
I vote this video as the GOAT of videos. 😂😂😂 GOAT conversations are dumber than debating with Cowboy fans. Love ya, Scooter.
@rickybaker42
@rickybaker42 3 месяца назад
Laughed my ass off last minute of this
@Nyjeezy
@Nyjeezy 3 месяца назад
Ooof Broncos gonna have a tough time for the next decade LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
@gl9634
@gl9634 3 месяца назад
Broncos lions Super Bowl next year Brandon
@srulifriedman2957
@srulifriedman2957 3 месяца назад
New thumbnail and this video will do super well buddy
@richardclark1127
@richardclark1127 3 месяца назад
I always find it funny that the 2 times Peyton won a ring he had terrible playoff runs. He had a combined 5-8 TD/INT ratio and 72 quarterback rating 60% completion and 224 yards per game. The Brady/Manning argument always hinged on Manning having to be great...but his teams were more successful when Manning wasnt great.
@travisdrawsstuff
@travisdrawsstuff 3 месяца назад
I just think if the best QB's of the last 2 decades, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc. played for the Patriots from 2000-2019, all of them would have won multiple Super Bowls to.
@YourUpperLip1
@YourUpperLip1 3 месяца назад
Ok… how about 6 of them?
@davis2k1234
@davis2k1234 3 месяца назад
That’s actually backwards you switch Brady with them all of those teams win 6+ might actually have won more did you see the Patriots of the last 4 years? Those are the teams Brady was dealing with a lot of seaossn
@CameronBrown123
@CameronBrown123 3 месяца назад
Exactly right but they won’t want to accept it
@arachnofiend2859
@arachnofiend2859 3 месяца назад
​@@davis2k1234 Baker Mayfield did better with the same squad that Brady had last year.
@davis2k1234
@davis2k1234 3 месяца назад
@@arachnofiend2859 1 more game behind Baker having his career season on better team you realize there OC just got a head coach job while Leftwich is out of the NFL
@MFBloosh
@MFBloosh 3 месяца назад
Version 2.0
@Jahwobbly
@Jahwobbly 5 дней назад
That company that makes the red and yellow confetti discontinued its other colors. That should tell you something.
@SolaceMcfly
@SolaceMcfly 3 месяца назад
ESPN has to get those views for that money😎
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