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I mean 25 million vopies of elden ring sold if you ask me shows the internet sentiment is nothing more than the loudest complainers complaining cause no matter what they either need to be smart and skilled build planners or need to be properly skillful to win
the ending of the DLC wasn't "Lackluster". It was melancholic, and gave me a feeling of emptiness, and I think that somber feeling was completely intentional. I feel like a lot of people are under the assumption the DLC takes place after the base game, but I'm fairly certain nothing in the game happens canonically after the Elden Beast fight, you get cutscene and credits, and then you go back to before the last fight for gameplay reasons, but that is THE end. this happens before you finish the game, it isn't meant to be a new ending, just closure for miquella as well as a new environment to explore the lore of other characters. One of the most exciting moments when I played the game was finding Shaman Village for the first time, it was so empty and sad, and the implications it made for Marika's story got the lore nerd in me freaking out. I still very much hope we get something more in this universe, I still want to know so much more that isn't explained, but that isn't a negative on the game. I don't see how me loving it so much I want more could be a bad thing, especially when I have already gotten over 450 hours of game for $60, before the dlc.
Completely agree, I mean the earliest you can get into the dlc is the mid point of the game, you’re totally right! Imo it was definitely intentional it’s a shame people are missing out on that aspect! Same, I loved the shaman villages so much! I need more elden ring lol
That said, the endings of most FS are a pretty weak point and it's particularly true in ER. The concept is there, but there's just not the proper payout. I think really only the full Frenzied Flame ending is well done. The throne endings are pretty bad. It's like a change in camera filter. Feels like they should all get a "usurpation of fire" type of scene added to those. You know, like a first Star Wars sort of ending. In other words... I'm not really ever expecting much from them. And as you say, it's not really and ending but a sidequest of sorts.
@@redfish337 I feel like the ending of the game, as was said in the video too, is that the boss is the ending more so than the resolution of any lore threads. The story is your characters story. I think the frenzied flame, and Ranni’s endings are the coolest, but I was more than satisfied sitting on the throne my first playthrough. The whole lead up too Radahn in the DLC felt epic, and the fight just before that really made it feel like the big battle at the end was awesome. Also The story in the DLC was really something, the band if characters and their individual ties to the world and miquella was interesting and easier to follow than a lot of the base games quests, and even though I missed summoning Thiollier in for the last boss taking down the last two big fights with Andbach was 👨🍳😘 I know a lot of people don’t like using the summons, but I love the character summons, they make the fights feel elevated on a story level when it’s someone important.
The ending of the DLC was, in fact, lackluster. You just tried to find a meaning for it. Any other game could have this point made to justify their flaws, but we all know that would be coping.
@@theemeraldgecko310 and comments like "nothing in the DLC connects to the base game" even though Miyazaki already said GRRM did not create anything for the SOTE. No new lore, no new plot points.
people misunderstood the fact that the "lore" told by RU-vidrs aren't true. The Fragmented storytelling isn't encourage you to watch youtube videos, but makeup your own version of the story. There is no way to know what is the true through in game element, even vaati can't. It is a intended design, just like what miyazaki said how he read English books in his childhood. They tell you a part of the story, you write the rest.
Fromsoft has already spoiled how to access the next DLC, they teased us the item which would allow you to go through the Gate of Divinity in Miquella spoke of the beginning trailer.
Its great best DLC. I will say though it causes me a bit of frustration because of the way the lore is handled and the way the scadutree fragments are handled.
I felt the exact same way in my 1st playthrough but having to go through certain areas in subsequent playthroughs isn't the same when u know some of the areas have nothing in them.
Elden Ring got so popular that people started to hate on it and nit pick at it. I’m just happy Fromsoft finally got their big success with Elden Ring after making great games for years.
Agreed. I am so happy FromSoft is finding more success. Each game is carefully crafted. Encouraging us, entertaining, enveloping us in a fully fleshed out world, giving us such intense feelings of victory, beautiful scenes everywhere.. it is a piece of art made by friends. I think after the collective ear plugging tantrums, the game will be remembered for what it is and not for the sentiments in the echo chamber at the moment. Love to my fellow Tarnished. Great video of course!
I feel that a lot of these reviewers were raging, but didn't try out stuff like crafting, jumping to dodge, other crystal tears/talismans, etc. Crazy to see the criticism, when I thought this DLC had some of the most advanced combat ever
This is honestly a really good point, probably just feeding the algorithm! Same, this dlc was one of the best pieces of content fromsoftware has ever made, like you I was absolutely baffled
My philosophy has always been the same. Keep your expectations low and you'll be surprised at what you didn't expect. Most of the complaints people have about video games are laughable to me. Go outside and kick rocks and see how fun that is, until you remember how much of a blessing interactive art really is.
The only compliant I can somewhat understand is people being disappointed that the last boss is someone they have fought before. But these are the people who, in my opinion, don’t appreciate or follow the lore. One of the things me and my friends talked about when the game came out is how cool it would have been to “fight Radahn in his prime.” And I feel we got to do that here.
Agreed! Some of the attacks are similar but really? Promised consort is such a different boss, might have the same name, but it’s completely different!
It makes absolutely no sense in the context of the game how Miquella managed to not only hold onto Radahn's soul after we kill him, but further how in the hell he managed to change MOHG'S BODY to resemble Radahn in his prime.....especially since they have nothing in common aside from maybe Radagon/Marika parentage. NOTHING in the game's lore indicates such a thing is possible other than the Secret Rite Scroll but even that is pretty dodgy from a lore enthusiast's perspective. It just...comes out of nowhere.
@@RudockAviar It makes perfect sense. There is a whole side quest you can do to discover it was taking place before the boss fight even occurs. Also: Radahn’s arms and legs still have omen horns emerging from them and he can do blood magic during the boss fight (thus showing some of Mohg transferred over to him).
@@RudockAviar This is a game where a two different individuals can become the same person; the whole Marika is Radagan thing happened in the base game and was discoverable through a secret as well. Did you not realize that the “Secret Rite Scroll” is a possible answer to how this can occur?
Just cos it's part of the lore, doesn't mean people have to like it. I hate the new Radahn lore. I hate that Miquella was just used as boss fight rather than having his own questline. The dlc fumbled in certain aspects and the lore and story is 1 part of that.
My biggest gripe has to be that lots of the loot you found, especially in hidden hard-too-reach areas were just, cookbooks, literally had 1 item each cookbook unlike base game ones that could have up to 5 recipes. What i imagined happened was that they ran out of ideas for loot in said areas and started to individualise the cookbooks, i swear some of these recipes could be bundled. Also, why is there only 1 infusable new weapon for each new weapon class with 2 other sombre weapons making a grand total of 3 weapons per new weapon class. Instead of cutting up the cookbooks, they should have invested more time into making more weapons and weapon designs and AOW for the new classes. However, this could have been due to rushed development, so I'll give them that
I’ve said it before but Miyazaki straight up unlocked another skill check. Elden Ring was meticulously crafted and there’s so much unwarranted hate coming from people who feel like they don’t understand what’s going on.
Fromsoft games have mechanics that evolve. An analogy I can come up for people like Feeble, Joseph, and Demod is with martial arts (i am by no means an expert, just a hobbyist trying not to get fat). Think of gameplay in DS3 as Boxing, Bloodborne as Kickboxing, and Elden Ring as Muay Thai. Many of the core fundamentals are the same in all 3 fighting styles, but there are differences. Boxing is fists only, kickboxing is fists and feet and MT is fists, feet, shins, knees, elbows and clinch. These people are fighting against muay thai using just boxing/kickboxing rules. It is certainly doable (and you absolutely can have success if you are highly skilled) as the fundamentals have overlap, but you are more likely to have a hard time. A lot of these people who complain about ER difficulty, you observe them NOT using all the tools in their kit, sticking to one rigid style and being as inflexible as possible. No shit you are gonna have a hard time. Elden Ring has insane variety and flexibility with mechanics, just wish people have a more open mind
TL.DR: The flaws are quite real, backed with average counts/%. Also, padding/filler isn't real content. I 100% this game, every single playthrough. I do mean it. I do torrentless, step by step, the entire map. Collect everything, kill everything, true 100%. I have 1 profile and a half full of characters in this exact playstyle. Now, let's make something really, reaaally clear: Low to Mid grade level materials, and crafting materials, are NOT content, specially when they are almost entirely worthless, in the post game, also, blessings are a once per character thing, because they carry through ng+ cycles, so they become useless after exactly 1 playthrough. Ok? ok. Considering that, The hinterlands, both finger ruins, the area surrounding manus metyr, the chalice, the cerulean cost+charo's grave+the fissure, the abyss, and to a lesser degree, the jagged peak, all have around a dozen and a half pieces of equipable loot/skills/spells, which on itself, is diluted by build requirements, so, realistically, even less than that per-character. I just named around 60% of the dlc. Also, ''the experience is it's own reward'' in completely empty areas isn't a valid argument in an RPG of all things. The loot and encounters are what make the game. This is not a cinematic driven game. You may want to justify all of that for ''cinematic/lore reasons'', but the base game does both things way better, and rewarding the player should never come 2nd to exposition. ''It's not just a fighting game'', correct. But it's mainly a ''Kill X, get Y'' game. When that comes as a 2nd priority, for an extended portion of an area or DLC, that's an issue. In terms of difficulty, it's very subjective. Most of it is well done, if a bit over the top at times (they are starting to lean more and more towards ''taking chances/uptime away from the player'' for difficulty, which may come as ''artificial'' for some). Radahn is it's own topic, but to make it short: 3 bugged attacks, 5 AI breakes, 4 easily executable, if even, 1 possibly unintentional instakill, present for more than a month, recycled moves and ost, and lore being disconnected from it's base game counterpart, and sustained solely on ''Miquella screwed everyone up, and their input in the matter is meaningless'' + 20 to 40 fps drops on phase 2 on anything except higher end setups. To say it's one of the best fights, and lore, they ever did...when we have Artorias, Gael, Fume Knight, Ludwig, etc...Ok, you do you. The dlc is artistically beautiful, the side dungeons improved a LOT in terms of design and connectivity, the ludo narrative is fantastic for the most part, the few new mechanics are really fun, and the balance makes sense, again, for the most part. It's not bad. Is it as good as the base game? Sorry, but no. Very close tho. And that's an issue. Every single FS dlc in history has been a HUGE, even, disproportionate upgrade compared to the base game. Bottom line, they hugely improved the base experience and polished everything the base game did. The critique is justified. But most people don't back it up with numbers or %, nor coherent reasons, so it comes out as hate. I will continue to completely disregard DLC defenders building arguments on ''I liked it'' or ''If you didn't like it, maybe try X'' or ''you don't get it'' when the factual issue is transparently clear. The critique was also valid for the base game, and except for the very, very few issues they solved since launch, it still holds today, because the dlc didn't solve a single issue beyond Torrent on Elden Beast and menuing QoL. The real villain of the story are From Soft White knights. I say this as a 20 years FromSoft fan (I'm 30). Good video tho, and I'm glad you enjoyed the experience. But the worst thing you can do for something you love, is ignore it's flaws, and defend them. You want what you love to improve, otherwise, it's just obsession. The ''Elden Ring is a 10/10'' or ''What a perfect game'' speech, ignoring every single abundantly clear flaw it has, comes from the stupid high highs it gets, and fanatism, boosted by how the gaming industry has been constantly underdelivering for the past few years.
Small list of things the base game did poorly that the dlc could and should have fixed, and everyone in the fandom is well aware of: -No multiplayer rewards -No collosseum rewards -Arenas being more than flat terrain -6 player limit outside of the arena -Arbitrary fogwalls that got so bad a good portion of the community went to modding just to enjoy the game -Enemy AI bugs -Enemy physics bugs -Exploits beyond the recently fixed Chainsaw -no omni-shop, a feature that was somewhat there since Dark souls 1 (All ammo, grasses and resins at least) -no omni-shop workaround featuring at least a ''all crafting materials'' shop -way too many run-limited or impossibly hard to farm crafting material drops that are actually necessary for ammo, greases, meat, bombs and perfumes. -Abysmal optimization on a good portion of the game. -''AFK'' farming spots -Phantom bloody finger looping spawn points and not being proximity based -fogwall/boss invasions -terribly input buffering -some input delay To add salt to the wound: most From Soft dlcs solved most of these issues from their respective base games, if they presented them in the first place.
i give a bit for Her LORE&Messmer ; you can find the discarded flesh of a giant snake, near the location of the O Mother Gesture on Bonny Village. do to both Messmer&Gloam-Eyed Queen had connection to Elder Serpent&Flame can slay gods and how Godskin Apostle Attacks sharing with Man-Serpent. Me&my LORE-Hunter Squad believe Messmer&his Younger Sister not a children of Radagon But immortal great serpent itself i findout DLC story trailer a Marika looting Golden Braid form White Flesh-Corpse it matches discarded flesh serpent.and in DLC we find [Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword] and HolyHel it Weapon Skill:White Light Charge it blade of light same as [Serpent-Hunter] when you facing Rykard !!
Why? GEQ was mentioned a mere 3 times in descriptions. This is another fan community problem of making insignificant details seem way more important than what they are.
it plays flawlessly on a 8 year old PC i simply dont believe the "performance issues" but to each his own. Elden ring and its DLC are on a whole nother level when it comes to video games , i honestly believe there's no comparison in todays gaming world.
One of the weird complaints I hear that divides so many. The scadu tree fragments, their cause and effect, actually are kind of genius from a design perspective. No matter where you are in the main game, you're starting a little more fresh, and have that separate leveling system that works in that realm, gives you a stronger reason to explore, etc. It works with the flow and design of adding in a massive, mini-sequal length mass of game onto the base game.
The problem with them is that they can make u too op before u get to certain bosses. Fight Messmer at 13 blessings and his health goes down so quick. The blessings have just recreated the same problem the base game had. Getting too strong before reaching certain areas.
@@anonisnoone6125 Bro I seen you on like 3 different comment threads now. Just leave one long passionate message in response to this saying that you hate this DLC with a passion and also leave in a note saying if it ruins Elden Ring as a whole for you now lmao
@@anonisnoone6125 I guess FS is holding you at the gun point when to use the fragments. It is not a problem, it is a solution to give new and less good players a chance if they get stuck.
Counterpoint for the barren maps. Every single significant location within the base game had items (weapons, shield, armor) that defined the area. Even the shunning grounds (which was nothing more than a massive attempt at convincing you to go frenzy) had atleast one item in there and its the fingerprint shield which added to its memorability. In the DLC you have the 3 fingerprint ruins that have nothing despite its large size, Jagged Peak that had nothing in there despite the massive buildup and the useless ancient dragon boss, St. Trina's area is largely empty and the Abyssal Woods. The Gravesite Plain and areas around it did great with its scattering of items and weapons but after that, weapons and armor end up becoming sparce. Instead of finding a balance, Fromsoft backpedalled so hard that they have LESS items for the other parts of the map. It shouldn't have been problematic to make more variations of the DLC weapon classes since they are sparce as hell to begin with and put them there. The only one that got diversity was the damn perfumer bottles.
To add. Absolutely no one I've seen had a problem with the Shaman Village (since it actually had items to give and it was small). The other maps I've listed deserve the complaint for how little they give (if at all) for the length and gravitas they give. How hard was it to put a spell or two within those ruins?
It feels like some parts of the dlc had 0 effort put into them. Areas look beautiful but nothing but empty space. And some of the lore is just disappointing as well. Miyazaki wrote the lore for the dlc so no wonder Radahn's the final boss (His fav boss). He just completely fumbled certain aspects.
I believe it is because some parts of the game are simply unfinished. They didn't even put steam achievements in and they had them in the base game. It reeks of being unfinished.
I don't have problem with finger ruins being empty. I have a problem with how anticlimactic their ends are. So you got to the middle, mysterious structure. Nothing works. Ages later you find the whistle, come back, fight through some quite challenging enemies (individual lampreys are ez, but they can really tag-team you with the binding spells), reach the center, cutscene of you activating the structure plays... and a talisman is added to your inventory. That's it?? That's the grand climax?!
I feel like people don't like Elden ring bosses because they make you take the back seat in the boss fight with how long the combo chains are and since most people are more used to just spam attacking bosses in other games it makes Elden ring seem ridiculous to them
But here's the thing...that is not true. Even in ER pre dlc, you could make attack windows by yourself. Jumping attacks, stance breaking, positioning to cut the boss combo short etc. I've beaten the dlc 4 times since it's release, and the easiest Radahn I had was charge R2 focused greataxe build. By far. If there is an opening for slow weapons, there is opening for anything. People are just unwilling to learn.
The areas that are empty are only the finger ruins. They are a big Huge for no reason NGL it took me quite some time exploring every corner of them just to find nothing lmfao but its not that bad
I do get where you’re coming from! I think it severs its purpose by being large, it’s a very lovecraftian esc area, maybe the inhuman size is meant to reflect the eldritch horror?
@@theemeraldgecko310When I first stumbled upon the finger ruins it was just like when the hunter gains insight. I instantly understood what they were and my mind was blown. I geeked out so hard over the masterful environmental story telling.
My main gripe with SOE is that it feels so empty. The loot left so much to be desired. I was so frustrated traveling the map only to get a smithing stone 6. Also wasn’t a huge fan of the story, I feel like there was so much missed potential with Miquella, Melina, Mohg, and of course Godwyn. They could have done so much more. Radahn getting thrown in was so off-putting. But I’m still playing! I like playing around with the new weapons and new builds I’m putting together.
This is a bad argument. Sekiro was genuinely too punishing at the start given how little health u start with and how much damage enemies do. ER's dlc has its own difficulty problems where some of the bosses r just bad and too aggressive with few attack windows. In Sekiro, ur on par with the bosses, in ER, every boss moves at light speed. It's not the same.
I heard someone call Shadow of the Erdtree "the most miserable gaming experience they ever had." I get the feeling that stems more from expectation from prior titles. They are big fans of Dark Souls and Bloodborne, and typically the DLC improves the main game so they went into SotE expecting the same. I can understand, but to say it's the worst? And no, they explained it was not an exaggeration. They genuinely felt that way. Fair enough, everyone is allowed to feel however they want to, I just can't understand feeling that way towards SotE.
I had incredible expectations given that I have 5-6k hours in DS3. Prior to ER, it was by far my favourite game and one that I almost exclusively played. I can se HOW MUCH they improved EVERYTHING about the combat, build variety etc. And, I'm not one of those people that never used weapon arts in DS3 and complained that everything is R1 spam. I appreciated the added combat complexity then, and I sure do now. And yes, SotE improves on the main game in many ways.
A lot of the YT “critiques” are nothing of the kind. They are barely engage with the mechanics because summons, shields, sorceries, incantations, consumable buffs, and talisman boosting are all on an imaginary taboo list. If you play a straight strength build and refuse to use any of the tools in the game to pump up your damage you deserve to be stuck on Consort Radahn for days at a time. The game drops dozens of new weapons and consumables and talismans and they are all intended to be used. A 2022 game with a 2024 DLC should not play like Dark Souls. If you play ER with a rigid mentality you will suffer. The game is basically screaming at you to try new things, if you refuse to attempt a large portion of the game than how valid is that person’s critique?
Love the game to death, even making my own series on it as we speak. I've finished the DLC too, and while I do have some criticisms, they're minor to put a ... shadow over the overall experience. See what I did there? My main complaint is something that for some reason nobody else ever talks about. I intentionally went into the DLC before Farum Azula, because I wanted to see what Gideon and other remaining Roundtable NPCs would tell about it as I explore it. Well... you can imagine my disappointment when I bring Metyr's soul to Enia and she just doesn't react. Or when I tell Gideon about everything Miquella has been up to and... he's silent. Eh. I know we're meant to go into DLC in the very end, but the option to do it early is there.
Shadow of the Erdtree is one of my favorite FromSoft product yet. I like the DLC more than I like the main game tbh. Consort is my favorite boss in FromSoft history. My only complaint is we didn’t get some more answers we were expecting in the dlc.
Tbh. You can side with miquella at the end. You just have to embrace the grab attack. This is basically what the miquella ending would mean. The player is a puppet for miquella.
I just want to say ER as an overall game (my first FS game) is a pretty meh experience. The gameplay is fun as hell but almost every other aspect of the game is lacking. It really feels like miyazaki/devs made the game, played it through and then made their favorite items/weapons/etc good and everything is mediocre.
Shadow of The Erdtree is by far. My favorite dlc fromsoft has made and I will stick with my opinion no matter what. The difficulty makes sense for everything lore wise for example, Messmer and Radahn felt very hard and it makes sense since your fighting gods that have achieved great power in the lands between. The story building that led up and is in the dlc is perfect in my opinion and full on think the dlc is amazing. Can’t wait to see what will happen in the fore coming future with Elden Ring or a whole new game
I still feel they could done more with Goldwyn's plot, it truly feels like his plot is being left in the dust, and i could understand why people felt disappointed with reskin radhan and miquella as his wig as final boss, even it make sense with the lore, i think peole truly want something more grandiose and new but overall the dlc is fine, i still prefer ds3 and bloodbourne dlc.
@@LeggoMyGekko ikr!!! There's a literally a place called castle sol that circling the fact Miquella tried to ressurect Godwyn with the power of eclipse, at the very least they could give us undead Godwyn boss fight but instead we get empty abyssal woods area that expand frenzy flame lore which as cool as that be, we don't need, frenzy flame lore is done, we could even be the lord of frenzied flame.
SoTE has some more poorly designed boss I all of FS history. Hit boxes that aren’t repetitive of actual move is just the top iceberg. Bosses with multiple combos that start off with same animation and bosses are to large for the area they are in cause targeting issues are just a few of the other problems. It’s not that SoTE is to hard, it’s bosses are poorly designed that leads to this feeling.
The only but i agree on is the boss arena's, most are fine but for me it just felt like the golden hippo's one was too small, but as they've fixed the charge (I think) I don't think it'll be as bad now!
The only thing i didnt like about the dlc was about Miquella wanting to Rhadan as a consort, until now nowhere in the lore of the base game showed that Miquella was interested in him aside from the trailer with Melenia and Rhadan. If anything i thought she was more interested in restoring Godwyn soul and i wished he was the final boss of the dlc. But the dlc was so good one forgets that small detail.
I do get where you’re coming from! A good point to remember is that we really couldn’t have known his true intentions as the info we have on him is possibly thousands of years old!
The issue with godwyn being the consort, is that Miquellas eclipse fails to bring back godwyns soul. I believe godwyn still has a mind locked in that dead fish body but it was an impossibility to make him a consort. I still feel we will get more Elden ring content in the future.
I feel like there were actually quite a lot of hints that Radahn was going to be Miquella’s consort, but since there wasn’t any text to indicate they were close it didn’t stand out until the DLC. Like an example is that we find a crypt in Caelid surrounded by lilies and containing Trina’s Sword. We find both Miquella and Trina’s lilies everywhere but the sheer concentration in that spot is hard to shake. We know Radahn emulated both previous Lords but it was always just perceived as him looking up to them, not wanting to actually become one of them. The fact Miquella wanted to grant Godwyn a true death had other potential motives. Most likely it was just that he wanted to do something kind, Godwyn’s body being alive while his soul is dead means that he’s essentially stuck in limbo. Based on how wide the spread of Deathblight is he could have just wanted to fix it by removing the source. It was a reasonable conclusion to think that Miquella and Godwyn were closer to each other, but nothing ever explicitly shows Godwyn was even considered for consort. If anyone has solid evidence that Godwyn was more important to Miquella than Radahn I’m all ears! It just seems like Godwyn was the ending some people wanted, Radahn was the ending they got, and they’re unhappy about that. It’s valid to dislike the ending but the one we got makes just as much sense, if not more.
@@caketality If it wasn't for Castle Sol, him choosing Radahn as a consort would definitely be a surprise. That being said, it's open to interpretation whether Godwyn was intended a consort chosen at all.
@@mmyr8ado.360 tbf even with Castle Sol and an entire DLC Radahn is still a surprise to people. :P Like most anything in Elden Ring the timelines are so long and vague it could certainly have been that Godwyn was Miquella’s original choice, but the problem is that in the context of the base game and the DLC everything about Radahn fits his role as consort. It was a surprising twist, but a logical one. I’m not all that fussed if people think Godwyn would have made more sense based on vibes, but vibes are the only reason I’m seeing as to why Godwyn would have ever been consort. It would have been a *cool* ending, it’s just not one there are any breadcrumbs even after we go all the way through Fia’s quest line. Godwyn is still just a spooky fishboy when we leave Deeproot Depths.
People are not gonna love the same games as you. It's a fact of life. It's fine not to be good at certain games and feel like it's unfair. A majority of the people who love the game will win out anyways so I'm not worried Fromsoft discontinuing the Fromsoft formula. FYI I did enjoy the DLC and beaten it.
I really think that the dlc is too empty and even some places that arent complietly empty like the blue coast feel empty brcause there isnt really a lot of meaningful thinks and lets be honest what happened to the abyssel woods complrtely 100 % empty and meaningless
I found the DLC content feeling empty at times, although that is just because the map was a bit twisty, which gave an impression that something awesome or some kind of loot might be around every corner. But that’s just been trained into me from dark souls. I’m used to being teased by white sparkling lights, and I missed that teasing. I wanted more teasing, even if that teasing has devious or obvious traps. I guess the teasing, allowed us to give ourselves permission to stop and observe, which also went hand in hand with appreciating awesome sightseeing. Thankfully, looking back on the DLC, playing it a second time, and third time, I was able to change how I moved through the map, less concerned about finding loot and was appreciating the crafting material loot drops and spots with awesome sights more. My eyes were also set a bit higher off the ground, while riding a horse. I could appreciate the scenery in those moments too. Elden ring is not empty, but you can trick yourself into thinking that, when you are used to dark souls level design, and are getting your expectations mixed up with those games. The Elden ring game and dark souls 3 DLC felt slightly similar at times, creating unintentional mixed feelings/false impressions/unrealistic expectations/unfulfilled promises we feel were made by the game, to us in where the loot would be situated. Elden ring fills the many spots and spaces where you’d expect heaps of loot or enemy bosses or mini bosses or mobs, with fantastic scenery that is also meant to contribute to the lore. I loved that. Some places appear to be crafted to allow lots of movement with less impediments, meaning mostly empty spaces except for the lore it creates, because there IS a giant mini boss in the area, and the game wants to give you opportunities for sniping it, avoiding it, luring it, etc, if you don’t prefer melee combat.
Okay so I will say that the map being emptier than the base game is something I dislike. First of, saying that people complained about the map in the base game being so packed full, then FromSoft did less and now that is wrong, too, would be a valid complaint. However then you say that people complained about there being so much copy-paste stuff everywhere. These two aren't the same. If I complain about copy pasted enemies and bosses everywhere, I am not complaining that there is stuff there, but about how the stuff that is there is something I have seen a million times already! But that doesn't mean I want there to be less stuff, it means that I want there to be stuff that I haven't seen yet! And the part that makes this so bad is that they make that exact mistake again! Two tree sentinels, a fallingstar beast, at least three tree spirits, every boss on Jagged Peak (Bayle excluded), they copied the Dancing Lion into Rauh so another copied remembrance that's just great isn't it?! They learned nothing. People didn't want there to be less. They wanted there to be less copy paste. Less reskins. So no, they didn't listen to what people wanted. They made the exact same mistake again!
The finger ruins may serve a lore purpose, but other than that, they are empty. Such a big area of some crafting items and an annoying gravity slug. Only leads to the boss. Jagged peaks is completely empty after Bayle and are extremely linear as well. Abyssal woods is very open, very interesting, and very empty, besides Midra's mansion. That's what I talk about when I say the DLC is empty, Those parts are. Hell, even the Ruins of Rauh, would love more exploration there. It seemed like there would be, but instead, there's a big ol plateau that's inaccessible, and after the second dancing lion, a bird man just chilling by himself, wierd. It's not that areas are empty, just not used well, though that's the same issue with Normal Radahn, and I guess new one too. Old Radahn has a huge area that does actually have a dungeon in it, so that's a cool use, but new Radahn just kinda leaves a memory of what miq said, and that's it, no resolution really, the path to godhood infront of you, and you cant reach it cause no stairs. I just found it lame there was so much build-up for Bayle, Midra, and Metyr, and their areas are just completely barren, they feel more like set pieces rather than an area to explore.
Nope sorry boring ass empty spaces everywhere using lore as an excuse is bs. Elden ring base game was also criticised for having big empty areas so no it's not a case of them not being able to do anything right they did something not so great, and then did it even worse in the dlc. Not at all a "crazy" take, common opinion because it's true. This is the only dlc I've been disappointed in other than maybe ds2. Generally some great bosses tho hitboxes or not radahn 2.0 sucks
I took about 60h to get through my first playthrough of SoTE. By far the best part was the exploration and verticality of the world. I intentionally went through it blind and avoided all spoilers. It was a great experience. I definitely messed up a bunch of questlines, but I wouldn't give up the feeling of wonderment and anticipation I had for anything.
@@theemeraldgecko310 but I mean there is nothing there what exactly did you like about it. I would have loved a mini boss or something hiding in the woods maybe a dragon
There was a boss at the start, the weapons, the design of a frenzied winter lantern was super cool, the lore implications, the design, midra and his mansion
@@theemeraldgecko310 “the weapons” a hand/fist which is reused, perfume bottles also reused and the boss barbed spear, there’s literally 3 weapons in the whole place which takes up a massive part of the map and frenzy is useless in pve so the weapons are not even great, first boss is an annoying gank, there’s about 100 rats and Elden ring isn’t a stealth game so the reskinned winter lanterns fall flat too, midras mansion is absolutely tiny with more lion mobs we already fought, no unique frenzy enemies or anything like that. Oh nvm no point in arguing with you, I just got to the point in the video where you think they masterfully planned what Malenia said to radahn, instead of ya know them intentionally leaving it obfuscated to fill in later with whatever they want, come on man you can’t really believe that can you?
Guess what. There are even more reskins in COD games, The Elder Scrolls games, Far Cry, Super Mario, Mario Kart, BOTW, TOTK, SOTC, Witcher, etc.... Elden Ring and the DLC has the highest different enemy types of all games/DLC's out there. Games like BOTW, TOKT, shadow of the coloss, Witcher, Skyrim have an emptier world and more reskins and repetitive structures, enemies than Elden Ring.
@@Niklas0369 Yeah but one of OP's points as to why the map is emptier is because there are barely any reskins. But like... there are still a bunch. I don't mind reskins tbh but I kind of wanted to point it out
@@Niklas0369 The TES games have more than enough other things you can do whereas in Elden Ring ALL you do is explore and fight, nothing else. There arent even towns with actual people living in it. SOTC on the contrary has ONLY the Colossi, I dont even understand what gets supposedly reskinned here lol, you obviously didnt play the game. None of the other games I play. BOTW I tried and I dont think they are good whatsoever, much like ER the open world is bloated and pointless. But getting back the original point, none of these other games matter because this is about Elden Ring and the DLC and you might not have a problem personally but its irrefutable that there are insane amounts of copy pasted enemies and bosses. It is what it is now but Miyazaki recently revealing that ER is as big as they will ever go and that they will now go back and focus on smaller games with a more traditional souls feeling and tight nit design gives me hope for their next games.
@@DerDoodler I disagree with you. If you don't like, don't buy it. People like me will have their fun and you should probably buy other games that fit your preferences.
To me Shadow of the Erdtree has had the biggest drop off of players of any souls game/dlc. Everyone i know ether gave up or got to end and were like wtf was the point. Like how can Miquela take Mohg and use them after you defeated them and laid them to dust. Can he resurrect fallen demi gods? He now cares nothing about Godwyn... just more questions then answers.
Do you even have data to back it up. The dlc has been doing very well since release. It has been 1 month and it is still in op the player count on steam. The drop off is very low comparing to many games out there
I loved the dlc, but I disagree with you. I think it's empty. "but the area tells a story" Dude, honestly, its just ruins and outstanding landscapes, we have this in every souls game. Where do we find lore in this game? We read descriptions in items, yes, and in the initial areas up to Messmer's castle, were all pretty good content. But when we get up on our beloved horse and explore the adjacent areas, it's like we received a product that wasn't finished yet. A ride of 50 minutes until we get to Bayle, NOT A SINGLE ITEM OR CONSUMABLE IN THE GROUND, but astonishing visuals and good design all the time. When we discover Marika's village, we know she lived there, but the whole place has a single talisman. Did you see how long you had to ride to get do st trina? How many items did you find during this time, to read its discription, to know where were you going? Was it realy an item in "every corner" like you said? I think this and the performance (wich I did not experience) were the problems. Just because its my favorite game, and I have 800h played, that I will ignore it's flaws. It's not like the DLC is bad, but a case of could be much more.
I'm probably completely wrong about this, but somewhere it says that all manners of death wash up in the land of shadow. So if godwyns soul died, why can't miquella use his soul from SOTE to revive him in mohgs body. I feel like that could've been much better.
Ngl, this just sounds like fanboyism. U can love the dlc but that doesn't mean there aren't valid criticisms. My criticisms: The fragments r ok but they present the same problem with the base game: U can become too strong before certain bosses. Some of the lore and story is disappointing. I hate Radahn's new lore. I just dislike the idea that Radahn of all people is mind controlled regardless of y Miquella chose him. I also hate that there's no lore at all on Melina or gloam Eyed Queen. Questions that everybody wanted answered. Miquella and St Trina were completely wasted. They should've had their own questlines. You'd think all the build up for Miquella, you'd actually get to interact with him but no, he just became another predictable bad guy who's only a boss fight. Some of the bosses r way too aggressive and it's not fun. Gaius, Putrescent Knight and Radahn specifically. Radahn has some bs attacks and the light show and hair r too much in phase 2. Entire areas with nothing of value in them. Finger Ruins, Scaduview, Base of the Ancient Ruins of Rauh, Abyssal Woods and Cerulean Coast. The Cerulean coast is the most disappointing given how beautiful it is. "Atmosphere" is not an argument. That alone isn't a reason for me to explore those areas. U can have atmosphere without making areas empty. The only area that's fine with being empty is the Shaman Village cos of its significance.
I absolutely adored literaly almost every second of it. Fantastic DLC all around, easily got way more than my moneys worth by the end of it. And the final boss took me 3 days to beat, absolutely ruthless, probably the hardest fight i’ve done in any videogame, but my god did it feel good when it was over. Soloed every boss, explored pretty much every single area, got almost all items, and I used no guides all the way (except for a few tips for the final boss). Loved it just as much if not more than the basegame. I give it a solid 9,5/10. Now however, i’m just going to play some other games for a bit (will probably be doing a NG+ playthrough eventually), as i’ve been slowly going through the DLC for about a month, so a little break should make stuff feel fresh again.
So I spent like... 8 hours in my second playthrough of the dlc to really learn the relanna fight (first playthrough is always with spirits and npc summons just for "story" purposes, and I take no shame admitting that). I have never had more fun learning a boss. Everyone just needs to go into bosses with the intention of not beating it. Coming to that realization made dying constantly so much easier to deal with. And quite honestly, maybe outside of mogdahn, I think the dlc bosses are some of the most fun in the game. And I 100% agree that this is definitely comparative to Old Hunters. Maria was the first soulsborn boss I wanted to perfect. She has been my favorite boss since BB came out, followed by blackflame freide. Relanna and Messmer fight have given me that same feeling. Being that there's multiple bosses that I love in SOTE, I think it wins over Old Hunters in general. But Messmer has a lot of potential to at least tie Lady Maria
I might be in the small crowd but i LOVE dying to bosses it's not about beating them for me, it's fighting them, i love it! You might be the first person I've met who likes lady Maria's fight as much as me lmao, I love that fight so much!
@theemeraldgecko310 no joke, I spent an entire day purposefully dying to her at the last hit, just so I could keep fighting her. I've never loved a boss more. I would bitchslap a nun for a BB pc release, just to fight her again
The only barren areas where the finger ruins. But the implications and what they meant made it a ok so i didnt mind. My only complaints are item placement. For example, the scarlet rot area before the daint of the bud boss arena has a lot of scarlet rot buds lying around; which makes sense; but then you find a chest under the staircase and whats inside of it? A scarlet bud? Why? Same thing happened in one of the ruin forges with smithing stones. Youve got a cool throwing hammer just lying on the floor and the ancient civilization who made the place put a smithing stone 5 in a chest.... And another point is a lot of the rune items where pointless. Its end game, why am i finding broken runes that are worth like 500 runes? But other than that, i don't really have any complaints. Thought it was mostly perfect and i love all the new lore implications, especially consort radahn. People are just mad that the final boss wasn't godwyn, which they should have known because miyazaki said the dlc wouldn't affect any of the endings.
in response to the ringed city ending, there is some resolution there at the end, you talk to the painter and get an answer about what awaits after that painting is done, yea it is up to us to interpret what that world will be, but there is a clear resolution as opposed to shadow of the erdtree. It feels more empty in a way the ending for this dlc.
I like Shadow of the Erdtree. Just a bit disappointed about the low sorcery count (especially Vs Incantations) and how there are several spells used by NPCs that could easily have been turned into fully functional, very fun to use sorceries. Sorcerers did not eat too well in the DLC (gears, talismans, etc considered), but it isn't a total bust either. A bit meh is all. Especially with the bug infestations, some of the more promising new spells are still dealing with.
I feel the game is brilliant from beginning to end, dlc included. My only problems are thus, the dlc final boss was too focused on difficulty in its mechanical design & that there isn't more content for the new weapon types. I expected the difficulty jump for the dlc and feel it wasn't too harsh short of earlier gripe about final boss. Overall I'd say thats a glowing recommendation in comparison to the quality of most games we see now. Hell I'd say its stellar even when looking back at what I would call the prime of gaming around the early 2000s.
Just the vocal minority and Breath of the Wild fangirls. The biggest hate was the quantity vs quality of bosses which I think was also overblown. The game has both, scaled up copy and pasted enemies given names and unique, hand crafted bouts. To be fair, these games are often rage inducing and that will illicit harsh criticism, unjust or not.
I agree with everything besides the story part. I see where you are coming from but i think people (including myself) wish that alot of loose ends from the base game and dlc would have gotten an ending or been further explored.
The combos are absolutely insane In a good way it’s so satisfying when you get them down and find all the punish windows and there are many when you start to really look no matter what weapon you use cause as you said everything is tuned to get a R1 off and sometimes a fully charged R2 even for colossal weapons. And as I was saying it’s just so good when you get a perfect dodge off it’s as it they really wanna defeat you and no matter what they throw out eventually you’ll have it ingrained into memory. I swear I gush about this for hours.
And man promised consort is just so amazing I feel like I’m truly pressing radahn cause I’m point blank in his face and hes doing his best to just nuke the battlefield
Finally someone who fully gets it! I love the combos so much! The attack windows are imo very exaggerated you can get hits off A LOT! Dw dude I could as well!
@@theemeraldgecko310 the fight is definitely a endurance battle it’s really cool with the dlc cause they added new attacks that let you jump through and you can just do a jump R1 for a free hit it’s really cool. The intimidation factor of these bosses are what really gets people especially consort radahn cause on first attempt it seems impossible. My favorite has to be the frenzy flame lord the way he moves so gracefully is really creepy
People saying the DLC is too hard... Lets give you a buff for the op Mimic Tear... and an item that fully heals it. Literally waltzed through the back half of the DLC. I actually felt guilty for using the mimic tear after i killed Bayle, Midra, Messmer and Radahn on my first pull. (Weirdly only the damn sunflower gave me any trouble, Gaius and Metyr were 2 pulls)
Man i love messmer combos they are so fun to play around, i beat him with Milady, black flame blade and impaling trust, it was really fun to learn when to cast black flame and then do some damage, and also alternating with impaling trust to get some criticals after, i knew he was resistant to fire damage but i didnt care because i was having fun, and i want it to beat it my way. Definitly my new favorite boss on the game.
I think the same man. But one thing that I could add to criticize this dlc is about that rushing move from commander Gaius. The most basic way to dodge it is to roll towards it at the very last moment and I think that doesn't make much sence. Also, I tryed to shoot it with a spell before rolling and, during the rush, it passed throw him and he couldn't be hit. It's pretty bs move because I think it doesn't make sence the boss becomes invulnerable during this move, like it's just a damm rush. The rest I agree with everything. It was an amazing dlc.
From what I've seen most of them are from people that played this game like Dark souls because they view it as dark souls 4 which might be the fault of the whole "its just open world dark souls" and not learning how to play the game. I'm playing through this DLC right now and I'm loving it and might be one of my favorites fromsoft DLC maybe even my favorite. I also think its people who kept thinking they were the best at these games and nonstop bragged about it but then Elden ring showed them that they werent actually good at these games along with not using items or spells and just trying to be a try hard and getting upset because they are making the game harder for themselves but don't realize that. Love this DLC and love this game and I'm loving it more and more each time I play it or listen to the lore
Didn't run into performance issues on pc, bummer that that happened though. loved it personally. If anything, the dlc got me more into the lore of the whole game. I'm interested to see how it plays in further patches. As they address some concerns and smooth certain things out, i might even like it more in my next playthroughs While it made sense for the tarnished to always want to be elden ring and not usher in Miquella's age, it would be fun to have a "charmed" ending where you choose to work for him and put his order into place for the sake of role playing
I think we all agree the solution is Shadow of The Erdtree chapter 2 lol Honestly though I think a lot of the more outlandish criticisms come from people playing the game out of FOMO, even if it's not something they would normally pick up. Then those people complain online, see other people in their same situation, and then assume their opinion MUST be correct. I saw it with Bloodborne, saw it with Sekiro. Fromsoft's philosophy and approach towards games is vastly different from AAA game devs, and honestly From games are a bit of a "culture shock" if you're not used to them. So a lot of these people come in expecting a AAA game experience and are met with something else entirely. Doesn't help that videogame journalism is kind of a joke and won't hesitate to publish a lot of these opinions as fact.
Like all games or expansions, there are legitimate criticisms. I do believe that the empty areas criticism does have some level of credibility. The most prominent example is Charo's Hidden Grave and the Finger Ruins (to an extent). I'm less bothered with the Finger Ruins due to the lore reasons which is also why I have no problem with Shaman Village (anyone hating on that area for being "empty" just doesn't get it). The DLC has also proven once again that Fromsoft simply doesn't know how to balance things. A lot of spells and incants are useless and many weapons/wepaon arts are undertuned. There's also a lack of weapon variety in the sense that we didn't get many weapons for each new weapon classes which was a bit disappointing in my view. That being said though, the whole difficulty/boss design being unfair is total bs. People want instant gratification now for some reason. It's like they've played BB, DS3 and base game Elden Ring and then think they're entitled to blitz through everything again. The no attack/healing windows argument is getting tiring now and despite all efforts to debunk them they're still somehow prevalent. I guess we should thank Joseph Anderson and Demod for that. Hopefully more people can see through these garbage arguments and I think many are as seen with Demod and FeebleKing's "critique"
To be fair, a lot of spells and incants are already patched/buffed/nerfed. I haven't tried Minor Erdtree since, but, imo, it should be unusable, it's one of the best lore moments for me.
wow i had no idea people didn't like it...i loved it! aesthetically more beautiful than a lot of the original and some of my favorite bosses like mesmer and rellena
At first, I wasn’t entirely satisfied with the DLC, so I decided to replay both the main game with the DLC, especially since I hadn’t touched the base game in over a year. And wow, what a fun and memorable experience it turned out to be. Every story beat in the DLC that initially left me underwhelmed finally clicked into place. The DLC enriched the entire narrative, making the overall story far more fulfilling. I’m already looking forward to doing another playthrough in the future.
This dude is making a WHOLE lot of wild assumptions and generalizations in like the first minute of this video lol "After Joseph Andersons video suddenly everyone hated elden ring" Bro, what? Anderson got dragged like immediately lol A very small handful of salty creators made similar videos, and they all got dragged as well. The people who actually like souls games have continued to like elden ring, and the world has continued spinning. The percentage of people crying about this game doesn't even come close to comparing to the amount of people saying this game and its dlc is a masterpiece
What did you expect? That they are lying to us and do the opposite instead? It's like going outside and being mad that it is raining after you looked at the weather app saying that it is raining and you should stay home lmao.
@@Niklas0369Well, Gideon most certainly would be intrested in what's Miquella doing there. There is the reason for why he's searching for the medalion to the halique tree, and then later on has many dialogue options on it. Besides that, I think he'd like to know.... As for Melina, in the base game she says that she doesn't remember much or smthing. However I don't see a reason as for why she should not appear, even once
Yeah, it's just lazy that there isn't a way we can tell Gideon about Miquella. Or that no character reacts to us like Sif in DS 1 - for example Malenia could've reacted differently, when we kill Miquella first. But to have nothing here is really baffling.
This game is far from anything resembling a masterpiece.... the fact I'm 480 hours playtime and likely even more hours watching RU-vid lore videos to try and understand and I STILL have a vague idea of anything concrete in this story. I think I can understand why others love it so much but the love for this game borders on cultish with some people. On the other end some people who have never touched it will fight to the death about how bad it is. Elden Ring brings out two very different extremes almost like Marika and Radagon (haha I'm so clever.) Not relevant to the topic but thank you to everyone that helps absolute morons that can't " get good " like me to enjoy Elden Ring. You're the backbone of the game to some people 👍
The only things I would change about the game is making the quest lines more intuitive and more cut scenes explaining lore. The lore is so epic and deserves it. Like after beating Rahdan and Miquella. I feel like there should have been a huge lore drop at the end of the game. I like environmental story telling but when you sink 140-160 hours into the game I should have a greater idea what the fucks actually going on without having to read item descriptions and puzzling together every minute detail of the environment. Either way I think it’s one of, if not the best game created.
@@theemeraldgecko310 wanna hear something even crazier? I'm a 47 yo grown-ass woman who picked up gaming just a few years ago :)) ER was my first Fromsoft game, practically coerced by a friend to play it (I was scared it's too hard). But. I soloed Malenia a few months back. I have 900 hours in it now. I breezed through DS3 and BB after that :)). Yeah...I love it. And the lore! ...maaaan! Btw, love your videos. I hope you reach 10k today :)
@@tashameseriasha that’s amazing! I’m so glad to hear it’s going so well! These games are truly beautiful! Thank you! Literally just hit it 10 mins ago!!
My issue with the feeling of an "Empty" zone is that with such a large map to explore entering those zones feels like a punishment and waste of time to explore outside of enjoying the scenery or lore immersion. The frenzy zone that chases torrent off is my example with a few enemies that no longer respawn after getting killed by parry. There's a church and the Boss castle and that's about it. I was hoping for an intense frenzy filled area considering how creepy the zone is. And before people attack me I still enjoyed the hell out of this DLC.
the vagueness of the story is what brings so many eyes to the lore community bc everyone is trying to understand wtf is going on. a decent video editor can go from 0 followers and 0 views to thousands in a day if they make a decent lore video, especially in the first month of launch.
I have re started a new run but haven't reach the DLC yet, I did abandon my PS5 because for less the price of the +subscription I could get the game and the expansion for PC and eliminate the having to pay extra just to play online, now I don't expect the DLC to be easy that is a welcome condition in fact, and it is expected as it is always how the souls expansions are, harder than the base game.
You KNOW I agree with you! The Final Boss fight, MADE SENSE! I'm a HUGE Lore Nerd myself, I STILL can't get enough! I will NEVER forget, that BOTH of us, almost called the ENTIRE DLC! THAT was F-ING AWESOME! I was RIGHT, about Miquella, what he did to EVERYONE, especially Mohg and Radahn, and his own "beloved" twin sister Malenia! Sometimes, i still think, what if, (we left Malenia ALIVE), after Miquella's Rune was broken, could we have SAVED her, somehow! IF not, maybe turn her into Spirit Ash, and Summon her, for the Final Boss fight! I even have, in my head, how that dialogue could have gone! Here's part of it! Malenia: (to Miquella)' You already know what happens with BETRAYAL and the Scarlet Rot!' (proceeds to make Caelid, look like a JOKE!) (going Nuke for Nuke, against her own brother!) (leaving US untouched!) (still Malenia)' That THING, is NOT RADAHN!' 'Nor is it MOHG!' 'You will SUFFER, the TRUE Goddess of Rot!' (Becomes PRIME MALENIA!) IF we were able to save her, or, as a One-time only Summon, she would be the most powerful, and TERRIFYING Spirit Ash, of all time! See, you also know, I LOVE to go into the bat-s%#@ territory myself, lol! YOU proved that I was not that crazy after all! This video was SO DAMN GOOD!
I didn't enjoy the final bossfight... maybe I will enjoy it more on my next run? The DLC is hard, but it's everything we've come to expect from FROMsoft - it's fckn epic! 💎 I'd agree with you on this ^^ hearing someone say "this boss is unfair! That move is undodgeable/ unblockable/ a one shot kill!" makes it easily twice as satisfying to dodge/block/not die.... XD
Honestly shadow of tge erdtree is what the peak of dlc should be. I dont have any complaints, buff some weapons sure. But holy shit was is fun. The people complaining were failing with a online bloodfiend arm build 😂
Agree with you about the people complaining and whining, but fyi, the bloodfiend arm is absolutely OP if you build around it. If it bleeds, you WILL kill it. Very, very quickly.
@@pgskills yeah, i was more implying that the bloodfiend arm bleed arcane bug one shotting the bosses wasnt the way you should go through the dlc then complain about it after you beat it lol
@@facelift5628 Oh, ok. I get you. I wasn't talking about the bugged version. Didn't start messing with it until after the patches that fixed that and the other couple of obvious bugs. Yeah, those people really do suck big balls. lmao
The Old Hunters and Shadow of the Erdtree are really their two best DLC's imho. also people complaining about the combos bosses have, need to learn to be patient. Personally I love that in the base game, many boss attacks was delayed, so you got used to that, then when they Released Shadow of the Erdtree, they switched it up a bit, to keep you on your toes. Like the times when you check with the camera around a corner for an enemy, and there is none, then there is a little corner just 2 steps futher away, and around that corner there is an enemy jumping you. FromSoft knows their core playerbase and what we have learned through the Souls series and then continues to takes us by surprise, cause they knew that We thought we have figured out how their games work.. But they continue to challenge and impress us, every time they release a new game. My Hat's off to Miyazaki and the Rest of FromSoft for keep surprising us with these masterpieces of games and story telling. Great Video btw. keep it up!
People hated, complained, and moaned about laurence in bloodborne being a reused aset just on fire. For me, first seeing Laurence and consort Radahn, especially consort radahn, I was like thank you. I find the people who complained about it, don't care about a story or lore and it does not matter what those bosses replacement would have been because they would have complained about that too
@@theemeraldgecko310 I was highly annoyed with the lost legs.part of the fight at first, "how do I hit this bustard, I would shout until I finally figured it out. The lore behind the boss fight was very deep
I think every boss in the DLC is well balanced with the exception of the very last boss. Just like in the base ER game, the solution to the issue is, that you gotta explore the world thoroughly, if you're stuck and unable to beat a challenge. You'll find new tools and literal stat boosts in the DLC, that can make the games much easier! Also, stop being stuck up with the way you want to play. Use all the tools. Use spirit summons, use consumables. Use the NPC summons, that you unlocked, because you followed their quest chain. Personally I think SotE is a step up in terms of game quality in comparison to the base game. And this is insane to spell out, considering how high I value the base game already. It's got even better game balance for PvE (thanks to the scadu tree buff), it's got less repetitive content and a much denser world (the whole thing feels like one huge legacy dungeon, that branches off into more legacy dungeons, it's insane!). And I think they managed to improve NPC quest designs in SotE in comparison to the base game. Because in SotE I managed to complete a bunch of those quests naturally, without reading guides, etc. I know I may have not taken the best decisions, but that is how it should be. Now I have content to explore in NG+ or on an other character. I think it's a loud minority, who's crying. Just as always. Considering the base game still sits at 92% positive on steam. SotE sits fairly low, currently and reading through the negative comments, most of them seem to hate on the bosses being too hard. Maybe this will change over time, when guides are out and people understand how to fight the bosses. (or realize, it may be worth it to explore and pick up the scadu buffs)
I spent the least amount of times on the final boss and Romaina. Surprisingly because most of the game is so freaking difficult. And that what makes me love it. I feel great when i win
I really enjoyed the DLC. I thought the end was weird at first but I've come to enjoy it. I'm kind of jealous of the people playing for the first time who get to have SOTE as part of their experience from the get go. It makes the end of the game more dramatic when you cut Malenia and Miquella down before ending their parents.
Same! At first I was like “is this it, a 10 second cutscene?” But as the weeks have gone by I’ve found myself loving it more and more! That is such a good point! God, you’re so right!!! Now I’m jealous too lmao
Hey man if you want my humble opinion shadow of the erdtree is the best part of the best game ever made, my brain is constantly trying to understand all the mysteries of the world in background since the dlc dropped and I’m not gonna stop until I pieced all together
i just wanna say I really like your videos. I don't always agree with everything you say, in fact I disagree quite often. but I can hear the great passion you have for your beliefs when you say them. you state what you believe in a very earnest, straightforward and simple way, which I find very endearing. your voice is very easy to listen to as well. for this video, I agreed with basically everything you said. I have no problem with fair criticism of fromsoft's games, but far too many people have been slagging off the DLC without realising that the things they are complaining about are the same as things they loved about previous fromsoft DLCs. despite the flaws of SOTE (or any of the fromsoft games), they really are some of the best games being made at the moment, so it really annoys me seeing people just slagging them off without acknowledging just how great they are.
Thank you so much! And I really appreciate that, I'd hate for the channel to be an echo chamber!!! I've been told a lot my voice is not easy to listen to so thats a relief! Agreed! It just feels like sometimes people complain for the sake of complaining!
Shadow of The Erdtree was amazing! I just wished we had more Godwyn or at least a bossfight with that monstrosity. Definitely in my top fave FromSoft DLCs, though not surpassing The Old Hunters DLC which i thought was perfect all around.
It really was!! I do get where you’re coming from, but I think the horror of Godwyn is that he’s FULLY gone mentally, idk I feel it would take away from the horror!
@@theemeraldgecko310 im with u on that, i just wanted to see that on display lol. Like this creature is Godwyn's body but clearly not him in there. That makes for an interesting moveset.
