I will say that the amount of money was not necessarily the issue in the spike cap years, it's the years. Why did Portland give that #2 overall pick from Philly 4 years? (I don't remember his name). I remember people were upset Jon Koncak got a nice contract in the 90s when his production did not warrant it or other players performed better.
@@jimmyjay689 Yeah but comparatively to the cap, its not so good. That was still a good portion of their cap space given to Timofy. Good for Timofy and Luol though lol. Dudes got paid a lottery amount of money for sub-par work. I wish someone would give me that money for being a pilon on the court and a professional seat warmer.
Bad contracts have existed for decades. Its bad GMs making bad decisions, its injuries, its a player playing well in a contract year with every indication he's going to be improving going forward, only to drop back.... They happen. Theyre going to continue to happen. Just a part of sport and you hope your team doesn't fall into it. The Warriors, a team with an insanely good recent track record of contracts just gave out massive deals to Poole and Draymond. It can happen to anyone. GM and owners spending money is just a part of the sport and the numbers are only going to look worse with the league bringing in insanely higher amounts of revenue. The next deal is going to be massive when you realize how much more money they're making from creating a nation of sports fans into gambling addicts. Kinda like some RU-vidrs.
To be fair, the Poole and Draymond contract were not bad. They rewarded the players who gave them championships. They at least make people loyal knowing that they will get paid. Ben Simmons and Kyrie were worse. They chose not to play for their stupid reasons. I started to have more sympathy to the Luol Deng contract when I saw Simmons. At least the guy played😂😂😂
@@Peter-hz3vs Lool true. I get Draymind for sure. But any fan who looked at the analytics could tell Poole wasn't a good basketball player. I was genuinely shocked the Warriors gave him that deal, because they seemed smarter than that. Regardless though, I think they were hoping for him to lead a smooth transition into the next era and panicked about keeping a decent player. You are right though, at least he played. Simmons was imo just something you couldn't predict but maybe they should have. A player that doesn't practice, nor care about the game or being competitive is a big red flag, but again I think so many teams panic about keeping their guy that they'll pay them anything and then regret it later. You do make some good points though lol.
Why should the 'stars' be the only one to benefit from that? You can't tell me that the C's spending 300m on Jaylen is a fair reflection of the talent on that team. The role players are getting hosed so the superstars can keep greedily breaking records.
85% is very little, Spurs filled their minimum by resigning a couple of people to medium deal and bringing in a bunch of dead cap space from guys they cut. It’s not difficult to make that if you have 3-4 guys you like
That's always been the case though. Superstars get paid disporportionally more because to be a 90% player is tough, 95% is way way tougher, and those who get to the 98% are so much better than the 90% its wild. That's why if you're a bit closer to superstardom you can really make a lot. That's being a super max guy@@RD-zx6py
True, but most NBA players are overpaid and overrated. Many need to retire and many need to be cut by their team. Yes, many do deserve to be paid more, but contracts are getting stupid.
No but that was a bad deal. 100m for a guy averaging like 14 ppg is wildly high. Nets overvalued him. Its not the worst deal ever, but 100 mil is too much for Johnson@@jbeast313
Tucker: "The first bad contract I think of is Ben Simmons." Also Tucker: Proceeds to show 50% of his background highlights of Ben Simmons amazing plays
JB signed a supermax, and was not only better from minute one of the season than he'd ever been, but he's gotten better and better as the season goes - just as the cap updates and changes the context, I think people need to update their notions of a player's impact and play, too. Whatever folks felt about Brown last season, THIS Brown is well worth the cash.
Completely agree. JB has been worth every penny of his max & has taken his game to unbelievable heights. I would say recently he’s been the best player on the team. Even better than JT.
Never understood how people think any one player is worth that much of their team's cap value wise. It's the role players they're hosing as much as the team.
@@johnmarkson1998 absolutely awful take. Superstars don't win jack without a decent supporting cast. If Jordan needed support then you best believe Jalen 'I sometimes lose the dribble' Brown does.
ever since the first players fought for more control over their careers (free agency, players association, rights in general, etc), owners and leagues have wanted total control back....ideally they would want to pay the minimum to players, non guarantee contracts, the ability to cut or release a player and not have to pay them, no cap ceilings or floors, and once a player is injured or retired, they don't have to give them anything, while owning their rights to sell their name, likeness, etc without sharing a single dollar, or give any benefits (retirement, contract remaining, injuries, etc) every contract negotiation, league strike, etc has been to get some of that back, while keeping as much money for themselves....they blame players, and don't even trust each other (with good reasons)....they want to protect themselves from their own stupidity, their own errors, and any unforseen circumstances...bad contracts are not the players fault, they are the GMs and owners fault (they have to offer them or someone else will) Bad contracts only stop when players have no more rights to refuse, to find options, to negotiate, to play one against another, to even play dirty themselves for decades, sports has told us, "sports are a business"so short of one side have total power, or every one agreeing to share everything equally, that will never happen, sports is the negotiation
I feel like the biggest difference is that if teams are going to over pay for a role player they only make it two year deal, ideally with the 2nd year being a team option and if its not a team option, it's still an expiring contract. Bruce Brown signed for two years 43 mil this offseason. If this was 2016 he would've signed for 90 mil for 4 years which is far worse
Should have used Tobias Harris footage for the 76ers, at least Ben made some all-star and defensive teams before he fell off (and then was actually worth something in a trade)
Sports science is helping players play at a high level for longer, and helping players come back stronger after what used to be catastrophic career ending injuries. Most bad contracts given to good players who either got old or injured.
So basically bad contracts don’t look as bad at the moment because the salary cap keeps increasing at a rate that can turn a bad contract into an okay one, BUT if the salary caps yearly increases drops they could come back.
Lesser bad contracts if the cap constantly goes up. And there is the problem... The viewer numbers go down constatly, ESPN/FOX Sports aso have money problems, cause the online subscriber bubble bursts right now. DAZN is collapsing... Not to mention that the merch sales stagnate. I see a rude awakening for pro Sport overall. What if the salary cap only goes up 2%, or even falls in a couple of years? Porter isnt worth 30+ Mio and is already hurting the Nuggets. And with the new CBA, you cant just decide to trade him for 2 or 3 rotation guys. The Nuggets are stuck now and have to pray, that the young guys get better every year. Cause if not, they litterally wont have a bench in 2 or 3 years, when they have to resign Murray/Gordon/KCP
Trying to add injuries to being bad contracts is horrible. Teams play guys, *like Ben Simmons in his last playoff run,* with multiple known injuries; and then try to play victim when paying or not paying them (I.T. in Boston!).
Jaylen Brown is playing top ten type basketball the last 11 games or so. On both ends of the floor. He's going to be an all NBA player. Just saying. And if they'll get the chip this year, the contract is worth it.
The contract hasnt even started. This is the last season of his old contract... What if he gets a big injury next oktober and goes down the John Wall road? With the new CBA the Celtics would be stuck with him, cause as a 2nd Tax team hey are only allowed to trade a player 1vs1. And who trades a good Supermax player for an injured one? Still worth it?
They really need to do away with Super Max contracts and extensions - players getting paid for accolades and stuff based on previous years is stupid. Make it a true incentive.
I think they need to fix buy outs to be more player friendly and competitive. Something like free after free agency but player gets every dollar plus a buy out fine paid by the team. Instead of finding ways to force players to take less money lets find ways to make it more fair to get rid of bad contracts. I might not be on the right path but players (the people generating 100% of the money) should never be taking less. Tons of parts of the NBA that generate lots of money and with out would be a massive hit but the only thing the league can not exist without is players. They have given enough.
rudy gobert catching strays when playing this well will never not be funny and shows how out of touch these nba essay/analyst are outside of their favorite team like how are you throwing shade at rudy but not at ayton
You should do a vid predicting the worst contracts in the NBA 3 years from now. So it can be about someone who hasn’t gotten paid yet but projecting they will get paid and basing the vid off that. Kind of a hot take video lol
@@RD-zx6pymax contract is paid to an all star who can put the team in the playoff. Jaylen Brown has contributed to the best nba team at the moment. Why he is the highest paid player is because there is a salary cap and he is the first person to sign. Max contract means all star not the best player. And you don’t need the one best player to win in NBA
every team's bad contract currently: - 76ers: tobias harris (only positive is that his contract ends this year) - bulls: zach lavine ($40 million a year until 2027. Overpaid and a long contract from now. One dimensional player that doesnt contribute to winning and is injury prone.) & lonzo ball ($20 million for a player that is basically retired already). - nets: ben simmons (absolute robbery) - wizards: jordan poole - bucks: kris middleton (not that bad relative to everybody else but he is on the decline and he's older now) - cavs: nobody - orlando: Jonathan Isaac ($17 million a year for somebody that rarely plays and puts up abysmal numbers when he does). & Markelle Fultz (also $17 million a year). Neither guys are worth that type of money considering they dont play. - Atlanta: De'Andra Hunter ($20 million a year for an injury prone player. Not that bad relative to everybody else on the list). - celtics: jalen brown - miami: tyler hero ($27 million a year for a one dimensional role player.) - indiana: nobody - knicks: nobody - raptors: nobody - hornets: nobody - pistons: nobody - GSW: andrew wiggins ($24.3 million), klay thompson ($43.2 million), cp3 ($30.4 million). Terrible for an aging team. - OKC: gordon hayward ($31.5 million for an injury prone role player coming off the bench) - Portland: Ayton & Jermi Grant - utah: john collins - timberwolves: KAT ($36 million. Always injured). & Gobert ($41 million for a one dimensional player that is getting older & he's on a long contract) - clippers: kawhi, pg, and harden. 3 old players with history of injuries. - lakers: AD ($40.6 million. Injury prone) & Lebron ($47.6 million. Old). Two guys that take up half the team's cap space. - pelicans: zion & cj - rockets: fred van fleet - mavs: kyrie - nuggets: MPJ ($33.3 million for a one dimensional player) - kings: nobody - suns: bradley beal - spurs: nobody - grizzlies: nobody
Still not a Supermax (35% of the cap) player. Max (30% of the cap) player, sure. Is he one of the best 10-15 players in the league? Come on, even you as a Brown Superstan have to admit thats a bit unrealistic. But those are the guys this Supermax was designed for. Not for Allstar level players who might get into an All NBA team once or twice, cause other players were injured. Otherwise, is Siakam a Supermax player in your book?
I don't think it will ever be possible to not have bad contracts. Mostly because of injuries. But also, sometimes because of bad front office leadership or because the front office panics in a desperate move to keep or sign a player. Now, yes. I do think as long as the cap goes up, it will be less of an issue. But, there will always be a Ben Simmons or Lonzo Ball type of situation. There will always be a DeAndre Ayton type of situation. Of which, all of them are highly talented players. 2 it is just bad injuries and some mental health issues. The third, I am not sure what the issue is. DeAndre Ayton should be among the best in the league at his position. Easily top 5. Joker, Embiid, Sabonis I think are the top 3. But it is open on who 4 and 5 are, Ayton, Gobert, AD, Porzingas, Adebayo, Turner and KAT are all flexible to go 4 or 5 depending on the season they are having. Ayton still probably is a top 10 at his position, at least his talent level shows it, even if his attitude doesn't. The only guy I think can push him out is Brook Lopez from a talent perspective. From an attitude perspective, he probably is a bottom 5 guy at his position. I don't know what the issue is with him. Sometimes he looks like he could be one of the all time great centers, other times he looks like a stat padder and malcontent that makes DeMarcus Cousins look easier to deal with. I doubt that Ayton wants to be thought of that way. At least I hope he doesn't. If I am the Portland Trailblazers though, I would get all 18 guys and invite a couple of other guys to make a pitch to them to come to Portland, and work a good part of the off season on team chemistry and developing skills they lack right now. Not everyone will be back of course, but...until Free Agency starts, any and all teams should look at it as if they are going to be back. If I am any team that is in the bottom 8 teams especially right now, I do the same thing. Part of how they dig out of the hole they are in, is by working hard and getting better. The leaders need to step up and make it about that if they want to get better. Assuming some of these teams have any leaders. Right now, it looks like most of them don't.
As a sixers fan, it’s really upsets me seeing these Ben Simmons highlights. Not a hater, just that he was so good and didn’t even touch half his potential. Hope he finds himself.
Thing is, most bad contracts weren't bad, initially. Ben Simmons was All-NBA one of the best defensive players in the league. Then he got injured, got lazy, and his game fell off a cliff. Even Poole. He was improving every year up to that point. Yeah, I'm sure the Draymond incident kinda helped him getting the contract, but the Warriors thought he was the future because Klay was getting worse as a player. So bad contracts will always happen. Thanks to the 65 game rule, there are going to be some players that will be All-NBA that wouldnt make it without that rule. Them getting All-NBA is going to turn a good contract player into a max player...
with the New rules coming i think these next few off seasons we could end up seeing a lot of player movement and players will not be making as much money
@@JP-ks7ey it'll effect the role players. The max players are going to make more. Take a player like Tyrese Maxey. Thanks to the 65 game rule, guys like Booker, KD, Embiid, Mitchell, and a couple of others have left spots on the All-NBA team. There's a good chance he could make one of the teams. That means instead of the 5 year $205 million he would've gotten, he'll be eligible for 5- year $240 million contract. Bam and the Miami Heat are in the same situation. He's up for extension. He makes an All-NBA team, which is possible, he makes an extra $30 or $40 million on his extension...
Jaylen Brown is a success. He is a hard effort 2 way player who takes care of himself and absolutely busts it on defense. His contract has worked out as well as it possibly could.
The cap is not going to increase every year! The NBA viewership is going down actually and if that trend continues, these overhyped players ain’t gonna get paid.
Most NBA teams have had at least two bad contracts in the last ten years. Take the Blazers as one. I think of at least four or five.. Even the contenders and title winners haven’t been immune. Look at the number six pick since 2009. Only one will be a Hall of Famer in Damian Lilliard. About 7 are out of the league. The NBA’s talent problem is that many second rounders are steals, just like many foreign players are. Many of the first rounders are busts. Some drafts are so bad that I have to wonder how so many players got drafted without ever being good.
@donaldjones9830 don't forget that NBA teams had to spend 90% of the Cap, which is a problem when your team is full of players on cheap contract because now you had to overpay someone.
Legitimate question why are most of the legendarily bad contracts examples from Washington Wizards? This is almost a Wiz recap video (from a wiz fan..)
Jaylens contract is high, but guess what, he deserves it because the new nba rewards All NBA players who sign with their own teams. If he had left in free agency he would have gotten 240million, which is still high but more acceptable to most fans. Once Jaylen signed that contract, he isolated from family and friends to work on his craft! That right there shows me he feels a great responsibility to live up to the contract. 90% of Players get that money they are out clubbing, lose focus and drive, and acting a fool (example, Poole, Wiggins, Simmons, JA), Once its a contract year they ball out. I find it also very coincidental that now there is a major financial drawback if you don't play 65 games, that all a sudden guys like Kawhi, PG13, Anthony Davis, Zion are healthy this year, wow, what happened to the last 4 years guys?
It's really hard to justify Jaylen's contract, mostly because he's a volume scorer with 'meh' efficiency, and while his scoring style is 'dominant', it's not versatile, which teams need in the playoffs. I think the Celtics would be just as good without him, because the team that is just that stacked.
be warned from a fan of other sports, the cap will not rise forever, and a cap that stays at the same level, stagnates for a couple seasons (let alone drop) will change everything....if the cap and revenue continues to rise, yes no real issue (unless the spending keeps going up or jumps, which does happen)....but nothing grows forever now, this is not meant against the players, no, you get the money you want (when i was a kid, i hated and didn't understand this, but as an adult who makes money, i get it, sports is a business and a cut throat one at times)....what i will say is this, you hire the people you need to deal with this, if they mess up (their fault, the other side was better, meddling owners and league, rule changes, etc), that has to be the owners and the teams deal.....many of the players may be millionaires, but owners are all (almost) to a 1 billionaires.....if they are not smart with their money, that's on them (and should be)
As a casual, why doesn't the NBA cut contracts by like 30%? Not only will it leave hundreds of millions of dollars every year to invest in other things, but also makes money more of an incentive which can lead to better games
The NBA players would go on strike. Imagine you go into work and your boss tells you "were decreasing your hourly wage to reconstruct the employee parking area."
@@theinternetofrandomthings7796 I'm talking about a scenario where the money would be used to make the NBA better. A 1v1 all star tournament with a million dollar prize, a league expansion with a team in Vegas, multiple ways to engage fans just to name a few ideas off the top of my head
In the NBA, the owners and the players share the pie 50/50. So when the ESPN contract is renegotiated every few years the salary cap will also go up. And they have to spend that money.
Maybe than doing multi year big contracts...just keep it a minimum of 2 with restrictions depending on job performance. Maybe that'll motivate these players not to be lazy. Kinda like the real world. Injuries happen ahem ahem Ben Simmons! 😂
