@@jasonclarke7422UK Thank Jesus for your Christian blessings in this Christian country. There are 50+ failed Islamic states, Saudis & Co had to drop Sharia Law and accept UK Christian law for business to succeed. No racist, bigoted, sexist, misogynistic slave condoning Sharia fascist law in UK. End Islamic slavery now, teach about the heinous Arab/Muslim slave trade in schools. Condemn marrying a child/paedophillia.
I'm 68, and I have never smoked That's been my choice, and that's how life should be We dont need a nanny state, especially run by a clueless government
@Kyryyn_Lyyh There's always going to be something you don't like the look of or the smell from but we have options. Move away What gives us the right to stop others enjoyment? This is supposed to be a free society
Yes, I don't smoke now and I never will. This is a bad direction. If they get what they want and ban it outright, then what else is on the chopping block? Alcohol is certainly the next one on the chopping block and that would 100% just destroy the British identity.
@46FreddieMercury91 That's quite true but you've got big brother watching. What I mean is you can organise meetings with like minded people without the risk of the STAZI ever knowing.
I can't stand drivers or filthy car fumes,but I'll bet YOU drive,poisoning people with ypur filthy car fumes,whilst complaining about smokers.Smokers are not polluting the atmosphere like drivers are.
@@BenLaws-m9j Well maybe the highest priority of the UK is Ukraine, u remember because of Boris Johnson, thanks to him and his partners the war in Ukraine is still going on, and thousands of lives have been taken. I don't care if people think it wasn't Boris Johnson, he actually delivered the news to the president of a now war torn country.
This is a very cowardly type of authoritarianism. It's not the kind of authoritarianism that might improve social outcomes such as going hard on drug-dealers and drug users; instead it's authoritarianism against people who are otherwise law-abiding. It's less the jurisprudence of the greatest happiness of the greatest number, but the greatest imposition by the least amount of work. Disgraceful.
@@RTO366 Why should I believe they're unsafe? Because government funded scientists say so? I was lead to believe something else was safe and effective, I ignored that too.
Ex Canadian bar owner here. Sold my bar in July 2000. 6 months later the government banned smoking in Bars. Poor guy who bought it went under 2 months later.
It's a worldwide trend though, I'm not a smoker anymore and hardly drink these days, I'm only 35. People go to the gym nowadays or go for muesli or avocado on toast, as you usually don't get a hangover from them. Pubs and clubs can't entice people like they used to. It's a shame
@@JamesG89 It's not a trend. It didn't happen organically. It was inflicted upon us after many attempts through various laws and legislations which they are still plotting now. Almost £20 a packet today, over £19 of that is just tax. If only taxing stabbings was so lucrative, we'd be a rich country again!
@@jimjames4348 no it didn't happen by itself that's true, but I think that people just socialise differently. It's very sad that the pub/drinking culture is disappearing, I loved going out on a Saturday night and getting spangled but most people that I know of my age hardly go out, and none of us really miss it.
I have never smoked but people smoking outside is not an issue for me, it was years ago inside pubs but this new government policy to me is wrong, it's a way of taking away peoples civil liberties and it will be just the start.
I'm a non smoker, but this is infringement of rights. Everyone in the hospitality industry who has an outside area for smokers should ban Sir Stalin, his family and every MP until this nonsense stops.
I smoke a pipe and I love nothing more than sitting in the beer garden with a pint and a pipe at the end of the working week and just relaxing for a few hours. This is another backhanded blow to the working class.
How is this anything to do with the working class. If anything preventing new people from developing an expensive addictions is a good thing for the working class. Also what about all the working class people having to put up with your smoking habits in public places.
Why doesn't he ban stabbings, two tier policing, the boats ,and importantly ban abusing our OAPs....Nigel farage for prime minister please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻Nigel is you read this please for the love of our children carry on for us and please please keep speaking the truth. You genuinely inspire us !
South Africa banned cigarettes in 2020, the black market SOARED and smokers were more stressed than ever. Am not a smoker but felt so sorry for the smokers, Politics should NOT be telling people how to live their lives Fight against this AUTOCRATIC GOV
What about my choice to not have my lungs filled with smoke, as was the case at a bus stop recently? Even outdoors it can be horrible. If somebody wants to smoke that’s their business, but they should do it away❤ from other people who don’t want it.
@@bumberClart1000 it’s my lungs . I pay tax every time I buy cigs . I also smoke weed . Neither will I be giving up . Government doesn’t get to dictate what I spend my hard earned cash on . Nazis
@@brelshar4968 I smoke, yes its a disgusting habit and I wish I hadn't started but it is enjoyable. Its funny all the libertarians who haven't an ounce of liberty in them!
UK Born Dual Citizen here, You will end up like Australia if these laws are passed. Its $50 dollars for a pack of 30 at the supermarket. Thats equal to 25 pounds.
Its a social thing to go to a pub ...not just to get drunk. Unless you are just out for the drink in which case...smoking isnt going to bother you and nor is conversation.@@ClactonCuun
I am nearly 65, believe me if I was 20 years younger I would be looking to get out of the UK by now. It is not a country for a White working class person and/or family. A lot of middle and above class will be looking now to get out of the UK. I have heard so many people saying they are looking at Hungry, and Countries that are not allowing the mass migration. Their Countries are going to be booming, while the UK will be going down.
@@DCDPMI'm 1/3 Ukrainian 1/3 Latvian and 1/3 Russian. Living in the UK for more than 10 years.. And already thinking about moving to Russia. Forget about propaganda saying about this country, check all media talking sh't. Just visit it once. Try different cities and etc. you will be 🙀
*Next Up On The Ban List;* - Drinking Alcohol - Using Fuel and Gas - Eating Meat, Eggs or Dairy. - Comedy - Travelling Beyond 5 Miles From Your Home - The Bible - Owning Properties - Criticism Of The State
@@mickthomas7221 correct, same with retirement age raised by them, they made sure they could still retire at 60 , there is a clause in the new laws they trumped up which states they can still retire at 60!
I'm an ex smoker I'm not a fan.But this is Just Starmer the Traitor on a Power trip. Shouldn't he be focusing on the task at hand "stopping the bloody boats" !!!!
@@ianhill4585yeah smokers are having an impact on the NHS, 🤔🤔🤔 and the dinghy ones are not I suppose, not paid a bloody penny into the NHS, at least the "smokers" have, and still are paying.
@@DianePell-w4n I'm pro smoking choice, people have cited smokers generate more revenue than they use up. Smoking has been around since pre 1618 when Walter Raleigh bought tobacco back to England, and now it's a problem? Or just a means to manipulate ?
As a smoker I appreciate your sentiment, what I’d like to know is if they ban smoking altogether then how are they going to replace the lost revenue from the tax on tobacco ?… Gonna have to find it from somewhere so possibly everyone will see a hike in taxes to offset the loss of income from tobacco…
I stopped smoking a few years back, but i 100% agree.. this is just ridiculous. I have had an increasing desire to leave this country.. but it has just occurred to me, maybe that's their plan, to make people want to leave and make room for.. i wonder who 🤔
@@marksmith2540 possibly, but I doubt it will, lung cancer comes in many forms smoking related being just one form… My father and father in law were both builders and both are suffering with COPD due to years of exposure to cement dust, brick dust, loft insulation, asbestos etc etc so maybe Starmer should ban the construction/building industry ?… Food for thought possibly, if we’re going to ban one respiratory related issue then shouldn’t we be banning them all ?…
That was my first thought too But, it's also so Muslims will be happy when pubs go broke and close but also because we can talk in pubs and it's harder for them to hear us or see it not being words online to arrest us for you see
Most people are not in the pubs! Drinks are too expensive. When people are at home and isolated and not mixing, not talking, that is when there is more of a problem. But this is all by design. They want us all divided.
@@XenophobiaUK So will everyone else that causes unnecessary use of the NHS. Like people suffering from obesity or playing sports that result in injuries. Tolerate this and your hobby/likes will be next.
@@nodwaa9227 A touch more than that - In 2023/24, tobacco duty tax receipts in the United Kingdom amounted to approximately 8.8 billion British pounds, compared with ten billion pounds in the previous financial year
Further to my last post, just Googled this - It is estimated that smoking has cost the NHS in England £2.6 billion per year. Tobacco dependency services currently exist in primary care, and community and mental health care services They're actually £6 billion better off.
Let me try and understand this. In the winter non smokers can sit in a warm pub, with smokers out in the rain and cold. But, in the nice weather, non smokers want to sit in the sun, smoke free. Some just want everything! The obvious solution is to do what happens in some European countries. Some pubs are for smokers and some have smoking lounges, giving people choices. But in the UK smokers are victimised.
So you blame "Non Smokers" in Pubs for yet another autocratic Bill introduced by Dick Tator and his cronies. This is all about the Labour Party and has nothing to do with pub-goers both smokers and non-smokers. I am not a smoker and I have no problem with those that do. However, I will remind you that all Pubs used to have a plaque behind their bar that stated, "this establishment is licenced to sell alcoholic drinks" - no mention of smoking. Smokers are now requested to smoke outside and I have no problem with that whether I am inside or outside - that's my choice and theirs, Blame Dick Tator and not people like me - he's the one hitting the Public left right and centre.
There's a reason that we don't have smoking and non smoking pubs. Blair and his government knew that if they had legislated for this the smoking pubs would have absolutely been booming compared to the non smoking one's. Just to add, i am a non smoker.
'In any time that he could accurately remember, there had never been quite enough to eat, one had never had socks or underclothes that were not full of holes, furniture had always been battered and rickety, rooms underheated, tube trains crowded, houses falling to pieces, bread dark-coloured, tea a rarity, coffee filthy-tasting, cigarettes insufficient-nothing cheap and plentiful except synthetic gin. . . . . 'This was the second time in three weeks that he had missed an evening at the Community Centre: a rash act, since you could be certain that the number of your attendances at the Centre was carefully checked.' George Orwell - 1984
Smoking costs the NHS on average about £2.5 Billion a year (equivalent to 2% of the health service's budget) whilst the income on cigarette tax is around £8.8 Billion a year. I'm no mathematician but isn't the second number larger than the first? Yet we are told the current budget deficit is £51 Billion in 2023/2024, equivalent to about 1.9% of the UK's GDP, so how is losing all the income from tobacco tax going to help when the government is spending over £8 Million a day housing immigrants in hotels alone, there is no concerns regarding our elderly, or our veterans, NO they would rather jail someone who expresses their thoughts online, this country is so broken, and even more so now labour is in power and Keir Starmer has gone crazy with power. This won't end with a smoking ban!
Stop hitting the working class and shutting pubs down and parks to let people live their lives people have the right to smoke and drink and give people to have good pension they deserve when they have worked all their lives
@@1tonyboat i totally agree with you Iam only 60 but still have 4 or 5 years left to work I would love to retire now but can’t yet and have worked for 44 years and had enough now been at same place
do i have the right to go and get an std because I enjoy gay sex then go and lie in hospital and eat up the nhs' money? and then come out and get another std and go back in again until I die?
@@Craig121000 What does car or industrial pollution do? We solved that problem by moving it all to China and Russia then complain when they hike up EV or electricity prices.
What has it got to do with the government, it’s my life I’ll make my own decisions on what is or isn’t good for me. The nanny state is trying to stop our freedoms. I do not belong to the state I am a free thinking person.
@@ClactonCuun correct, it’s not a ban on pubs. It appears that he wants them to lose money so they close down. I saw pubs close down due to the indoor smoking ban as they had lost revenue and were starting to run at a loss. What pubs are still here, especially independent ones will suffer due to this new ban as the patrons that still use them, a lot are smokers. If you can’t smoke outside while having a pint, they are going to stay at home with a few cans and smoke in their own garden.
Pubs have lost their charm over the years, particularly with the rise of the gastro pub. Once, pubs were the heart of the community-a place where working men could gather freely, share ideas, and solve local problems. They were more than just places to drink; they were vital spaces for connection and resolution. Now, however, we've traded that authenticity for the trappings of a so-called liberal society, and the result is a loss of the communal spirit that once made pubs so essential.
