The Endgame 65% Keyboard You Need To Know About - Forever65

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@SuperKMao Год назад

Yo this was very enjoyable, informative, and well put together. One of your best.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

i really put some effort into this one, glad you appreciate it!!

@wolfmanwarden2849 Год назад

I took the L-haku during the last raffle, so I just picked this up as B-stock with an extra pcb and POM plate. I’ve had SP Star Sacramento switches just marinating in dust for a year now, so I’m probably going to steal the SP Star on carbon fiber combo for this. Thanks Andy.

@yeegykg Год назад

I would rather have this than the cannon keys logo tbh.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

same same

@ClownBabyG-Zus Год назад

Loved take on the custom keeb scene at the end 🫡

@BokehhBob Год назад

Forever65 and Austin are 2 of my favorite boards in my collection, amazing quality and sound outstanding.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Man I really want an Austin bc there’s not a lot of good big boards

@BokehhBob Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Alu austin with cf plate it’s *chefs kiss*

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

CF plate in that huge mass of a board sounds delicious

@terproov Год назад

“Find one that you can enjoy then GET OFF THE INTERNET” new to the hobby and this is by far the best advice I’ve heard yet. I’ve started with an original tofu 60 and my next board is going to be something that I can stick with for a long time. I’m interested in a hotswap pcb so I can try switches bc that’s very interesting to me.

@iThanxfuL Год назад

Love the last part, Thanks ❤

@qwertypadish Год назад

I'm so happy I got my hands on a typ 65+ with the CF plate... Thing sounds and looks amazing.

@etrnull Год назад

the end is what I needed to hear. I have so much fomo rn but I know there's gonna be great keebs in the future as well. love the board tho and the design is perfect.... actually maybe ill pick it up.... lemme think about it

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

This is the keyboard enthusiasts dilemma hahaha

@tuanto7778 Год назад

Endnotes are so true. I'm personally a big fan of 65% boards, and all the boards I have tried have pros and cons. I personally hate the design of the haus because top mount has a mounting point under the spacebar and for o-ring mount, it only has 4 case screws so the middle part of the top case tend to bulge up. Can't wait to try the 910 me though, mounting points and case screw checks out

@involuntarysoul3867 Год назад

the general consensus on the 910 me is pretty meh

@sirken2 Год назад

I'm loving my Kibour Harbour SE myself. the lilac grey color shift is just mwuah chefs kiss

@dupre7777 6 месяцев назад

hey andy did you try the haven 65 and if so do you think its worth it in therm of sound and feel ?

@K1LO_ Год назад

Dude I had the same problem with my iron165 but now it is one of my favorite sounding boards Ive ever built. POM half plate with plate foam (not sure where the foam came from, had it laying around). I'll link a sound test later today.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I can imagine it. Iron gasket mount is very stiff so half plate sounds like it’d do the trick

@wetboards4979 Год назад

I wanna ask does anyone know where do I need to lube if I wanna lube behind the leaf? bouta lube some mx browns in the unikorn😤

@shyrix Год назад

Great with all the comparisons to other contenders

@clickaclacka4202 Год назад

TLDR at the end made me appreciate you even more. And confirmed, Big Weeng Gang

@HeadShotKilla10 Год назад

I think Vega with PE Foam, Allu Plate and Gateron Inks is still the best sounding 65% you can get

@votoan9880 Год назад

Great video!!! Typ65+ and forever65 are lowkey great, I was lucky enough to get a very good deal for typ65+ aftermarket. Now I want a forever65…

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Man I really like how the typ65 looks w the left macro column tbh

@smoothmovess1 Год назад

Great video. the purple forever65 is tempting for sure.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

The only reason why it’s not instacop is that good purple sets are hard to find. And I don’t wanna just throw gmk wob on

@Zuppified Год назад

Hey Andy do you have a video of all the popular build combos? Oil Kings + POM Plate = short description? Hobbies is very preference based... but it's good to have a reference point on what "good" sounds like

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

The last time I tweeted it, someone tried to contact all my sponsors to cancel me Ink on Pom Jwk on fr4 Mx black on alu (can sub in sp star meteor white) I also mention it in the mode65 review on my channel

@Zuppified Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Sick thanks for this! Sorry to hear that. People have way too much time on their hands 🤣

@jalexanderc Год назад

Coachella won't stop me from enjoying uncle Andy content

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

FOOKIN RESPEK

@jalexanderc Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen loved this video, Andy! Super informative and in-depth. I'm also really grateful you covered the Chimera a lot despite this being a Forever65 vid. Might not have been the goal of this upload, but I think this solidified my decision to pick up a Chimera r2 extra (when I'm more comfortable financially) as my endgame 65. I love the ideation, history, sound, and looks of the board, and thankfully I don't mind the cannon logo. The thing you said at the end about it looking like something between your legs actually sealed the deal for me 😏 thanks again for putting out great content!

@abstrktionLair Год назад

as a fellow "love how the (pc) iron165 looks, disappointed in how it sounds" person, really hoping the burger top mount config of the loki65 delivers 🤞🏽

@Sly_Kaw Год назад

What is your opinion on the polycarbonate chimera vs. the alu in terms of sound? Which plate material would you recommend for a PC board?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

sound is preference, i'd purely go PC for rgb and ability to match with keycaps i don't really have a go-to rule for what sounds good with pc boards. inks maybe? on whatever plate sounds best? it depends on the mounting. if all else fails just try alu.

@wagonet Год назад

Austin is a great board. Thanks for the video Andy

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I kinda want an Austin. I think I tried to enter for raffle for it. It was a while back. I def tried something lol

@noanimal Год назад

i definitely really like the forever65 in the 65% category. my personal list for the best 65% boards i’ve tried would be forever, kohaku, mc65, matrix vita. may pick up a forever just to have a solid match with the kohaku in my collection, although in general 65s aren’t my favorite

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

that's literally how i am. i prefer 60s but somehow i ended up with 65s.. maybe because there's more you can do with a 65 to make it cool vs a 60

@thuanphatchau1269 3 месяца назад

Is matrix vita still sound good till this day ? I’m curious

@noanimal 3 месяца назад

@@thuanphatchau1269 I really like the sound but probably not that great compared to some newer 65s. If you want a top mount 65 would much rather have a mc65

@lowurcase3238 Год назад

Love the video big A. Forever65 looks sweeeet but it seems I will be unable to afford it FOREVER. Anyways, do you think that the frog is still a good board priced at a point that makes it a good deal? What are some other midrange 65%-TKL suggestions?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Frog is a great value and can be everything you need out of a tkl tbh. It’s my go to for an easier to acquire keyboard that checks most boxes

@lowurcase3238 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Thanks! Appreciate the response.

@Luci_71 Год назад

Excellent video, dont think ill end up getting one of these since im a sucker for clacky gasket. ended up getting a kbdfans yeti and paired with inks it sounds really good imo. i hope i can get a pom plate for it tho.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

the yeti has no business sounding that clacky and good forreal.

@Luci_71 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Definitly, i was blown away by how good it sounded even after i watched your video on it.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

All that endgame sound.. only to be stuck in a uh.. unique case lol.

@Luci_71 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen lol true, since i have an sc alice i kinda like that its a bit different shape wise

@picassoimpaler3243 Год назад

Color issues disregarded, what would your take be between the forever and the iron? I wasnt able to get the kohaku (my favorite looking board to date), so i have been tossing back and forth between the 2 boards and havent been able to decide.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Iron sounds very thin and dead so I don’t like the sound at all

@picassoimpaler3243 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen thank you! I had a feeling you were going to say that, I was leaning that direction anyway. Even though im going to need it ceracoated or something to get the color way I want lol

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

hahah make it yellow.. :P

@caveman4191 Год назад

waiting for you to review the envoy!

@user-br6xs1fd8u Год назад

Is Rama Thermal any good, considering if you get on aftermarket, or not even close to endgame material?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Not even close. Looks cool but they messed up design and you gotta use some extra gaskets to stop it from rattling/pinging.

@nt4608 Год назад

FYI to make the IRON 165 sounds awesome with some tweaks. 1. Force Break mod 2. PP plate/POM plate 3. Tungsten switches / Proper broken in HG Blacks / OP Blacks 4. Taping flex cuts (we all know flex cuts are mostly.. totally unnecessary) 5. Optional* 2mm poron case foam

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I liked doing only bottom gaskets too since it's super compressed with full gasket

@nt4608 Год назад

@AndyVNguyen interesting I'll try this out!

@TheAlixSH Год назад

Help! I'd like to own an aluminium 75% keyboard but I don't know what my options are. Is there an up to date datasheet anywhere online? This board is sexy but I have a 65% already. :p

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

7v r2, tomo are the only ones i can think of tbh

@geonfeetpic Год назад

Andy between the kohaku and the unikorn which one would you pick in terms of sound?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Unikorn

@aj4123 Год назад

Thanks for the video! So you don't think the Kohaku is an "endgame" 65 on the level of the Chimera?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I do, which is why it’s one of the three options for gasket I mention at the end. But like… how are you gonna get it right now haha

@aj4123 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen lol yeah I hear you, just got a W for lunar black though

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Sheesh my baddd

@MrSkullhead0 Год назад

“Hi I’m Andy I’ve been on the hunt for endgame for sometime now” Me, another Keyboard Anonymous member: “hiiiii Andy”

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

HAHAHA

@Puffem. Год назад

the last two minutes were the best part

@elfido_3598 10 месяцев назад

Staying till the end was worth it

@jonathan_jiang Год назад

could you explain what the problems you had with the iron165? Any suggestions you have after experimenting so much? thanks!

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

sounded thin. you should go thru my sound tests and see my writeups. basically only use half gasket and use louder switches youll be better off.

@jonathan_jiang Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen will do! thank you very much - thin doesn't necessarily mean hollow right?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

i definitely used sorbothane in my iron165 to help it sound better. it is kinda hollow sometimes.

@jonathan_jiang 10 месяцев назад

@@AndyVNguyen half gasket means only using gaskets on either the top or bottom half?

@zette4273 Год назад

what keycpas are you using on kbd67v2? 5:04

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Lmao it’s a kohaku but gmk modern Dolch

@190daes Год назад

I saw this in your last couple of videos, what is the issue with rukia r2? I dont follow keeb drama.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Tldr: Runner took everyone’s money for the GB and then disappeared.

@Emmori6 Год назад

Awesome vid sir! "Get off the internet!" lol I can agree with this thought process.

@Tunnelsnakes Год назад

Gotta love that “KBD67 mk2” 😂

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

it has a custom patina weight ykyk

@moldybread5733 Год назад

Thoroughly agree with the opinions on 65s with blockers but a little confused as to why the corsa or vita was not included since they are technically higher end 65s with top right blockers

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Corsa doesn’t sound good with the flex plate. Vita is overall not great sounding either

@moldybread5733 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Oh wow I did not think I'd get a reply 😂😂 Thanks for clarifying!

@xXfzmusicXx Год назад

How does this stack up against TGR 910? Since we're talking that price range

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

This is more modern than the original TGR 910 and sounds better. And the 910 ME is not a great sounding keyboard

@swordreflex Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen agreed, the 910 is extremely unimpressive

@GambitsWattsandKeebs Год назад

Thanks for your thoughts on this keyboard. Mine should arrive this week. And yes, get off the internet, LOL!!!

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

you're gonna love it!

@oakerface95 Год назад

Nice message at the end! Was seriously considering getting the Forever or the Chimmy but I'll just keep my Ark68 R2 and be happy with it XD

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

That is true endgame. Endgame mindset

@oakerface95 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Yeah! I know that the Forever will sound and feel better than my Ark68 but Forever is a board that I just heard about 3 months ago, while I've had my Ark68 for a long time now, so I feel that I'm gonna be happier with my Ark! 😊

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

if you ever get antsy just do a new build in the ark! that's what i've been doing with my korn and kohaku to keep it spicy

@oakerface95 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Thanks for the advice!

@KEL0FF Год назад

i think my end came is the kbdfans 67 tbh i love the light wait and the thock

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

it's a thock monster for sureeee

@ChiefBrianIrons Год назад

The forever 65 looks nice but for me it's not worth the price especially after missing out on the Kohaku which was same price in my region. Waiting for Geon glare 65 I am 🙏 its sounds beautiful as it looks.

@oliverlam5208 Год назад

I’m new to the hobby and I’m genuinely curious, with kohaku offering 700 units, are there really that many enthusiasts entering and happy to pay that price?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Yes because of hype not because of value for performance. They’re just fans of the idea of the keyboard. The keyboard hobby is surprisingly large now

@jmegaswag 7 месяцев назад

How does this compare to the Singa Kohaku?

@AndyVNguyen 7 месяцев назад

pretty similar, a little deeper

@jmegaswag 7 месяцев назад

Bought the Kohaku because of your video, hoping it’s worth it!

@BenBigg Год назад

Where does the kohaku rank for you?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

#1 . Type feel is very nice

@henrylee5013 Год назад

how come kohaku wasnt included in your top list?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

My brain farted bc I was already typing on it. But it’s part of recommendations

@K1LO_ Год назад

I'm on the fence with this forever65, I love the sound and the aesthetics from all angles except the bottom, I feel like that bottom is not a $600 bottom - at least not for me. It's nitpicking, but at $600 I've gotta love every aspect.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Is there a board that ticks more boxes for you? Or are you still waiting

@K1LO_ Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen I've built probably 25 boards or so, the ones I still have are: owlabs spring (will keep forever), mr suit (probably the next one to sell when I find a board I want), iron165, mode65 and a sonnet with cerakoted accent and bottom, and shelby80. Also in on the PLX and Haven65 which should be fulfilled soon.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

spring is cool. mr. suit has some odd sound in spacebar i couldn't get over. iron165... .. yeah i can't deal with that one anymore. mode65 is solid value but still isn't nice enough for it to be my one and last board sonnet has some cool options but those costs add up. shelby is one of those newer silicone jacket boards right? this basically is my last statement, it's best to pick something you're willing to live with the compromises with rather than cycling thru this hedonic treadmill of finding something that does everything

@K1LO_ Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Yeah I don't disagree with you at all. While the boards I've kept are the ones I'm happiest with, I can't say any of them are perfect. My goal has never been to find the perfect end game. I like rotating boards, I like looking for what to try next, and on the rare occasion a board truly wows me, I hang on to it for a long time.

@swordreflex Год назад

@@K1LO_ what was wrong with the shelby? I own one it’s been nothing but amazing

@keymera2879 Год назад

how thick is the pcb?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

1.6

@phykios Год назад

Are you looking to review the envoy?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

If they ever send it.. but I’ve been getting ghosted so it is what it is

@phykios Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen aw thats too bad man, your reviews are always awesome!

@MisfireKB Год назад

I really want this board but its SO MUCH LOL Still though. This shit is it. Love your coverage

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Bro forreal but… it’s so nice and no wait. I really flexed my knowledge and experience in this video I hope it helps ppl

@maxkrul1217 Год назад

I’m sorry but the Kohaku wins for me sound wise. I prefer a nice crisper sound profile from gasket mounted boards. Just like the Axol Studios Yeti. But remember, preference.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Nothing to be sorry about! I also prefer Kohaku. Gonna have to be a truly ground breaking 65% keyboard to change my mind

@BlackTeaOP Год назад

Typ65+ is still the best board I own. Amazing sound, looks and functionality! Have you ever done a review for it? I could not find it anywhere on your channel

@riceoverwife Год назад

it truly is slept on

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I have not tried one yet personally!

@BlackTeaOP Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen definitely recommend to get your hands on one! :)

@clacksupreme Год назад

Mann and I just preordered my Lunar Black Kohaku 😂😭

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

SHEESH nice W

@schtendo4464 Год назад

I mean if you won a Kohaku raffle you're stupid to not pay that invoice... it's profitable especially BNIB

@clacksupreme Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen I watched your kohaku video and I knew deep in my soul that I wanted one so BIIIGG WWW

@clacksupreme Год назад

@@schtendo4464 don’t worry g, kohaku’s ordered and left a big gap in my financials but it’s all worth it

@frenchfry2369 Год назад

ever tried a leaf 65? jus askin

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Tried a leaf60. It was cool-ish

@frenchfry2369 Год назад

ya its only ok, i just bought it for the side profile

@Ojas.mediratta Год назад

No Kohaku mention for best 65s?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

It's mentioned in the 1v1 later. I kinda just.. structured the video weird. The top I considered ending up being Kohaku vs Chimera vs Forever for gasket

@xlancelot081 Год назад

he is not mention it, but that kbd67mark II looks sus

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

a little sussy wussy

@Ojas.mediratta Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Gotcha, makes sense. Great job with the video btw. Easily my favorite channel for keyboard related content and one of my favorite YT channels in general. Just finished designing my first board and gonna have protos made since I'm considering a GB. Would love to send you some pics and sound tests once my protos come in ;)

@quocanhhbui8271 Год назад

So it’s not kohaku? You lied to us Andy. You made the Kohaku raffle much harderrr. Jk great video.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

everyone knows what kohaku is already lmao

@It_needs_to_be_said Год назад

Rama with my Thermal I got recently and GMK fuji and Epbt Ramen ended me ever joining a group buy again.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Unlucky… sorry

@It_needs_to_be_said Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen I wasn’t the only one, Fuji and Ramen stop were from Covid restrictions, Rama was because he couldn’t get his personal life under control and it wasn’t just with the thermal

@swordreflex Год назад

Ending comments made me laugh 😂 Also spot on with Keycult, they fell off hard esp after all of that drama. Lowkey glad they are slowly becoming irrelevant just like RAMA tbh

@ChiefBrianIrons Год назад

Gmk stricker 🤤

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Stricker numba 1

@rq1ny_ Год назад

Always en enjoyable vid, however i dont like 65% layouts, i think that are overused, my favorites are 60%, TKL

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

i'm curious how you determine 65% layouts are overused. don't they make a bunch of keyboards in every layout? 60% just being the less common because most people don't like to buy it

@Bonedogxx Год назад

dam i thought i was going to see shark andy today...

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I should bring it back for the next big milestone stream

@nt4608 Год назад

Frontal/side profile designs and aesthetics are way more important, how many of us actually turn our keyboards backwards to look at the back design SMH.. Forever65 way to go!

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

for sure! every time i turn my boards over i just get reminded of how much freaking patina there is on my brass weights lol

@Lareence Год назад

Damn I thought kohaku would have been in your top endgame if not barely missing the cut… 😢

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Haha it is. I just forgot to mention bc I was literally typing in it

@spartanV48 Год назад

With the Chimera65, I would recommend trying Tealios switches or a modern equivalent. I've built mine on FR4 with Inks V2, Tangerines, and then Tealios and the Tealios adds more depth the sound than the Tangerines making it sound so good. Might edge the Chimera65 to the Forever65 in regards to sound

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I don't know if there's a modern equivalent to tealios.. no one really uses them these days because you can get the same smoothness with any JWK switch. Tangerines UHMWPE stem makes it a little quiet. Chimera was great with JWK and FR4, I wouldn't imagine Tealios on FR4 is better

@spartanV48 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen If you have Tealios on hand, it's worth a shot. JWK switches to me in some ways are a bit one noted. Like I find more depth to the sound of other switches like ones from Gateron. There is a sound test on Taeha's Chimera prototype with Tealios. That video is what sold me on buying the Chimera before it was hyped up

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Tealios are overpriced and I stopped using them. I had a batch and I sold them as soon as I could lol

@johnaxel1892 Год назад

ginkgo 65 is goated

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

It had them alignment pins for sure

@cristerronaldo_sewy Год назад

I would cop the forever65 if there was a hotswap option

@chunkymilk1288 Год назад

Soldering isn’t even that bad

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Can send me a commission to millmax it but it’ll add to the cost

@wellackchyually Год назад

you dont think chimera 65 is endgame worthy?

@wellackchyually Год назад

ooops i commented too early lol

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Lol all good

@wellackchyually Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen welp i ordered a chimera lol cant wait for it

@kename1280 Год назад

New Video banger 10 dogeges/10 dogeges

@FrankThaThird Год назад

Ahh, now I see why you wont be getting the Bauer lite lol.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

HMMMM why would you say that? 😅😅

@chendusingh Год назад

no vega? :(

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

QK65 kinda made Vega old news

@scorppu Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen I feel like the vega is still good without foams, when the QK really cant live without it.

@recessedsubhuman Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen But you can’t use QK65 without foam but Vega you can 🤔 Vega is still better

@chendusingh Год назад

@@scorppu a great board to me is one with unique sound, sounding great in any config with or without foam, and basically that assurance that no matter what config you use it's gonna sound great. thoe couple of boards for me are the Vega, 7v, envoy, sonnet, arc60, and the o ring 60 fam

@scorppu Год назад

@@chendusingh the vega I 100% agree with. I've built it with inks, pole jwk, mx blacks, in many different configurations with AND without foam and they all sounded great or at least decent. I don't know about the other boards, but I've had a bad experience with stack mount on the mode65, so I didnt get the sonnet (also I realized mode boards are basically impossible to resell locally). I found that the isolated top mount of the mode sounded too hollow, and the stack mount was wayyyy too loud and every switch kind of sounded the same. I'm happy you had a good experience with the sonnet though, just not my cup of tea.

@schtendo4464 Год назад

why isn't Haven65 in the conversation of endgame 65s?

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I haven’t tried it and don’t hear it mentioned often in my communities

@chunkymilk1288 Год назад

I don’t think it’s fulfilled yet

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

oh then why are people asking if a concept is endgame lmao

@schtendo4464 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen we've seen protos and the board is literally finished. China has had their units for like 9 months now, its far from a concept. International groupbuy gets fulfilled in about a month

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

yeah things can fall apart at fulfillment also. i had a proto of element g67 and the designer quietly changed the design and made production run hollow. to answer your question - because it's not in most peoples hands, i'm not willing to qualify prototype keyboard sound tests as good/bad.

@ziich1 Год назад

Rip kohaku😭

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

So many units yet so many Ls

@kename1280 Год назад

Mamiya

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

STAWPPP

@philipp594 Год назад

I don't think a 600$+ keyboard should require a forcebreak mod. At that point any good 400$ keeb will do the same.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

We had to forcebreak TGR Janes, cloudlines, 910s, etc. The reality is keyboard design especially top mounts have a bit of resonance/hollowness. Keyboard design just isn’t a perfect science. You can get cheaper boards and use foam.. and force break also. I just don’t trust that the most interesting and well designed keyboards have perfect non hollow across the entire board

@philipp594 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen They could just engineer a force break into the board in the first place. It's not that hard.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

That’s what keychron did. And they can’t do it right lmao. The fb mod came from copying keychrons design

@ggatekeeper Год назад

Kohaku not on the list?!

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

It’s there I just forgot about it! I compare it to the other two best gasket options

@ggatekeeper Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen oh my bad I didn’t finish the video lol gg

@AznRealization Год назад

This channel isn't good for my wallet... but solid content as always :)

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

double edged sword lol. thank you!

@recessedsubhuman Год назад

It’s cool but I still think Vega sounds better

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Easy W for your wallet then

@grantzu 4 месяца назад

Keycult 2/65> keycult 1/65

@93ksj Год назад

so I can keep it Forever? 👀 how dare you slam my Keyclout 2/65 Andy Note: didn’t link the tape lol

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Keyclout HAHAHAHAHAH. Yes Forever's a keep

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

thanks for reminder i added tape link

@93ksj Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen thanks G 🙏🏼

@Missing01 Год назад

I think owning multiple of the same board is a tad bit extra.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

It is but what if you like multiple colors

@Missing01 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen Yeah, we need more rainbow boards then.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

I actually really like rainbow PVD finishes lmao

@AT-vj2mz Год назад

Feels like the price point is too high, theres nothing in it that is crazy expensive as a material but its more expensive than solid copper mode sonnet (to my ears a competitive sounding board)

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

Mode sonnet with copper bottom is $550 tho

@AT-vj2mz Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen totally, guess im just more comfortable with it being $550 and a really expensive material

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

it's not really about material costs imo

@AT-vj2mz Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen yea maybe im being too critical, the board sounds great :)

@LouisLiuMusic 9 месяцев назад

That Chinese character 永 is not in a cool font. That’s a bummer!

@dcsoda1 Год назад

Give me the cannon over this. Looks more unique than just a Chinese character to me.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

i get it

@swordreflex Год назад

I can’t buy this board, the topright blocker is a dealbreaker for me just like how the cannonkeys emblem is for you. My ex was also Chinese so it makes the board even worse 🥴

@weesh4010 Год назад

Left shift so baaaad

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

it ain't perfect that's for sure. but force break cleaned it up np

@jonny555333 Год назад

$600? Nah I'm out lol. After all the other parts like keycaps, switches, stabs, it's like $800.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

It’s a hefty price. But it can keep up with the nicest 65s I’ve tried. Or just get a qk65 and leave keyboard discords hahaha

@jonny555333 Год назад

@@AndyVNguyen I like custom keyboards but not that much lol. If endgame was a true thing then I guess I could see it but 6 months later there's a new endgame. So better not spend $600 on a single keyboard for me.

@AndyVNguyen Год назад

totally valid