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The entire History of the London GO Train 

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Man what a short lived service...
The GO Train to London or London GO Train was a unique service and one that stretched outside the GTA, giving GO Transit a more "GO" Sense (GO Transit Stands for "Government of Ontario" Transit). This service, even though lasted almost 2 years (It ended days before it hit 2 years old) went through many changes.
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@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan Месяц назад
On May 12, 2022, the Conservative Party of Ontario promised that if they were reelected, they would "invest an additional $160 million to improve the speed and frequency of GO train service between London and Toronto". This would presumably address the main issue with the train, which is that it is ridiculously slow between Kitchener and London due to the 30mph (50 km/h) speed restrictions on what was historically a 70 mph (112 km/h) railway. The Conservative party won the election with majority, so they had all the power necessary to upgrade the railway, but once they were elected they conveniently forgot about their promise to make the London GO train an actually useful service.
@GamingRailfanner
@GamingRailfanner Месяц назад
That sounds like typical politics, promises end up being kicked to the curb
@mile290productions3
@mile290productions3 19 дней назад
to add my own bit of information about the Service to london. near the end they started kicking the GO out of the station and making it sit in the CN london east yard until morning, where it would scooch out and resume morning service. which was a very funny occurance to see considering it came by complete surprise.
@TracksideKitchener
@TracksideKitchener 9 месяцев назад
I will miss GO Trains to London
@pokechimp88
@pokechimp88 9 месяцев назад
Same
@TheSouthernOntarioRailfannner
@TheSouthernOntarioRailfannner 9 месяцев назад
Same with me (Even if I Didn't see it and Saw the F59PH Double Header on the Niagara Express that went on for a few Months)
@minshullj
@minshullj День назад
I made a point of taking it before the service stopped. At four hours, my wife and I brought cards and adult beverages. After Kitchener we had the lower portion of the car to ourselves.
@michaelritchie5303
@michaelritchie5303 Месяц назад
It was a doomed concept from day 1. Via rail is 2 hours. Driving is 2 hours. 4 hours on a Go train was never going to be viable. Flix bus is 2.5 hours. Greyhound is 2.5 hours.
@GamingRailfanner
@GamingRailfanner Месяц назад
Precisely, however it gave us a unique train set for the time being
@GamingRailfanner
@GamingRailfanner 8 месяцев назад
Fact: Im pretty sure its not called the "Bramalea Local" however I call it that because its a Union Station - Bramalea train so yea.
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan Месяц назад
I call it the Bramalea Local as well. The name makes sense.
@Mystro256
@Mystro256 7 месяцев назад
It would have been nice if they actual ran service back to Kitchener when it left London. I would have been able to catch an evening Stratford show and be back home same day.
@mile290productions3
@mile290productions3 19 дней назад
Actually they did, same night. i have a video showing him departing back east after he stopped at london via.
@ColinFilmsTrains
@ColinFilmsTrains 9 месяцев назад
Interesting video! Nice to know it's history!
@DylanDurdle
@DylanDurdle 3 дня назад
Why were the double F59s banned? Having rode daily long routes when the F59s were primary locomotives, I can atest to the frequency of these locomotives breaking down and needing a tow into the closest station by a CN locomotive. The double F59s sounded like a brilliant idea.
@GamingRailfanner
@GamingRailfanner 3 дня назад
The F59s weren't banned, double heading trains on GO were banned which meant the double F59s were. This means only one F59 could operate that train. The ban was because of cracks at Toronto's Union station's underground concourse
@KawarthaTransiteer
@KawarthaTransiteer 8 месяцев назад
8:38 Oh hey, the train left London not too late that evening, a bit after 8:30 PM. I actually got a video of it on its way back to Kitchener in London.
@mitchl4456
@mitchl4456 2 месяца назад
We need a go train running from London to windsor and they need to add small stations in all the small towns along the via/cn tracks and connect to tecumseh mall, Windsor Airport and Devonshire Mall. I live in essex county so I know all the small towns around here. but to start from windsor it could start at Windsor via, take the etr tracks to the cn tracks, then the first stop would be howard ave & etr tracks, 2nd stop would be dougall ave & etr tracks, the 3rd stop would be Devonshire Mall, 4th stop would be windsor Airport, 5th stop would be between Jefferson and Queen Elizabeth, 6th stop tecumseh mall (also a bus station), 7th stop in the town of Tecumseh, 8th stop near russel woods, 9th stop Emeryville, 10th stop Belle River, 11th stop, Rochester Place, 12th stop, Stoney Point, 13th stop Light House Cove, 14th stop Tilbery, 15th stop Chatham 16th stop Thamsville, 17th stop Bothwell, 18th stop Newbury, 19th stop Glencoe, 20th stop Mt Brydges, 21st stop Komoka, 22nd stop Hyde park, 23rd stop wonderland, 24th stop London train station. Now it wouldn't have to be all these stops this is just my idea.
@GamingRailfanner
@GamingRailfanner 2 месяца назад
Uh- Im gonna ignore the stop placement stuff because thats a lot lol London to Windsor is dominated by VIA rail so for GO to have a place there, they'd have to have some incentive that would get people to ride it Second, if a new GO service were to start from Lindon to Windsor, another service would have to start from London to Kitchener or London to Aldershot because there's no GO connection between London and the GTA as of now
@DylanDurdle
@DylanDurdle 3 дня назад
GO (Government of Ontario) Transit has to get out of the 90s mentality that all trains must start or terminate in the Toronto. Providing local service between London and Windsor only makes 100% sense for a train system meant precisely for this purpose. Federal VIA system makes no sense for providing adequate service between two cities within Ontario. Start with providing service between these two cities, then build up to connecting the service to Kitchener and Aldershot. I'm sure nobody will mind transfer points, and the transfer points will ensure service isn't disrupted on primary lines.
@Edwards-Videos
@Edwards-Videos Месяц назад
Frankly, the service had too many drawbacks: - there were multiple VIA trains a day between Toronto and London (4, now 5, via Brantford plus the one via Kitchener) - You had to use an e-ticket for travel to our from any station west of Kitchener - it was too slow (around 4 hours) - no option to buy (or receive) food onboard, unlike on the VIA train
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan Месяц назад
The service was never intended for travel from Toronto to London. It was intended for travel from London to Kitchener, Stratford to Toronto , etc. The Via service via Brantford does nothing to serve that demand. Prior to the pandemic there were two Via trains per day from Kitchener to London, but that has now decreased to one. The GO train restored a second daily departure, but now that has been lost again. The service as introduce never made any sense because the tracks were never upgraded enough to make the travel competitive. If they were fixed up to their original standard, the train would be an hour shorter between Kitchener and London. In the 1980's that trip only took 1h14, but nowadays it takes over two hours. The "pilot" GO service was never testing anything, it was just a political tool so the Conservative party could get votes in London, Stratford and St. Marys. Once the election was over they no longer needed to renew the contract for the train since they were already re-elected.
@Edwards-Videos
@Edwards-Videos Месяц назад
@@OntarioTrafficMan The problem was that people were not travelling London-Kitchener or Stratford-Toronto. With the slow travel times this never helped. Plus, the departure times were not convenient either as it operated like a commuter train, but due to the overall travel times, it wasn't necessarily an option for commuters from Stratford who were coming into Toronto. I agree that it was a very political toy to get votes. Like I said, the VIA trains offered better options (more comfortable service, onboard catering, etc.) as well.
@GamingRailfanner
@GamingRailfanner Месяц назад
@@Edwards-Videos There was definitely demand of people traveling from Stratford to Toronto, it was the highest ranking for ridership demand of the 3 new stops. Arguably if they get the tracks up to good maintenance between Kitchener and Stratford and have some layover yard somewhere in Stratford, we could have a few trains run to and from Stratford.
@Edwards-Videos
@Edwards-Videos Месяц назад
@@GamingRailfanner They could extend one (or two) Kitchener trains to Stratford, perhaps with bus connections for the other Kitchener trains. There is a second track at Stratford station that perhaps could be converted for storing the train(s). But if the track was upgraded, the trains could always be stored back in Kitchener possibly too.
@stinkyroadhog1347
@stinkyroadhog1347 2 месяца назад
Upgrades to the line should be funded since there's clearly a demand for it so this service can return
@the_halton_sub_railfan77
@the_halton_sub_railfan77 9 месяцев назад
i saw the last run to london
@duncanfox2168
@duncanfox2168 Месяц назад
my dad drive the london line for 2 years
@Police35K
@Police35K 9 месяцев назад
is Railfanner wtih train GO
@asmi06
@asmi06 Месяц назад
GO is a commuter service, and nobody in their right mind would commute 4hrs in one direction. For this service to be viable, the travel time has to be cut by half if not more, but existing infrastructure and rolling stock just can't support that.
@GamingRailfanner
@GamingRailfanner Месяц назад
In this case, an extension to Stratford only could work, there's ridership there though track work needs to happen. GO transit is definitely not gonna work on that and instead is going to work on enhancing existing services first before thinking of an extension.
@asmi06
@asmi06 Месяц назад
@GamingRailfanner We're still waiting for a full service to Kitchener, which was promised many years ago (I live in Kitchener), so until that happens I doubt they would even consider extending it further.
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan Месяц назад
Did you know that people work in places other than downtown Toronto? Like for example in Guelph, Kitchener and London?
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan Месяц назад
And besides, GO is not just a commuter service anymore. It is a regional train/bus service, so it accommodates anyone who might want to travel from one city to another. Very few people are commuting from Bramalea to Toronto at 10pm for example but we still run trains because people do want to travel for other reasons than just going to work.
@asmi06
@asmi06 Месяц назад
@@OntarioTrafficMan Nowhere near enough to justify the train route.
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