The Entire Timeline of Severus Snape & Lily Potter's Relationship (Origin to Downfall) 

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Sadly, the film never did explain why Lily ditched Snape. It was almost like “Eh. James is cuter than you”.

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Lily was arguably the only person who was kind to him in his whole life and also the person who warned him off about joining DEs. I don’t get why it’s so unimaginable for people to understand why he’s loyal to the such person, especially when he played a part in her death & hates himself for it for the rest of his life. Snape’s character is so well written that it’s a shame most people tend to water down his character.

I personally love Snape's last words in the film more than the book, his "you have your mother's eyes"

Dumbledore: “Lily? After all this time?” Snape: “Always.”

Movie Snape’s story has an enormous amount cut out. You never find out Snape was the one who sold out the Potters, that he was fine with just Harry and James dying if it meant Lily lived (let’s be real - this would have disgusted Lily to no end) and they cut out the “Him?! Expecting Patronum!” meaning he never cared for Harry, he really only cared for Lily. It really cuts out the complexity of his character and makes him look like a secretly wonderful man when in reality he was just atoning for being the reason Lily died

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I think no one else was EVER kind to Severus except for Lili. We can never over estimate the power of kindness. But maybe instead of all the dirty looks, if she had tried to teach him to be a kind person, he would have grown. Still, her friendship DID save Snape in the end. He would have become a soul- less murdering death eater without her and been beyond redemption.

Severus Snape really is such a fascinating character. I know plenty of you are gonna call out the horrod things about him, and I agree with that, but thats what makes him interesting. He probably was one of the very few complex characters in the story where as others are pure good or pure evil.

Makes me wonder if he ever knew Wormtail was the one who betrayed the Potters. I'd like to think that Snape personally asked Voldemort if Wormtail could be his servant, just so he could abuse him for his betrayal.

Severus and Lily's timeline together started off great, then turned tragic.

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Even Lily's friends didn't like her friendship with Snape and thought that Snape was no good for her. Mary thought that Snape would corrupt Lily while Marlene (who can be considered more of a sister to Lily than Petunia) absolutely despised Snape.

In many ways, Snape is almost a different character in the movies compared to the books. Movie Snape was more or less a good man with awful habits and made awful past decisions. Book Snape however was an awful man (not an evil one) that made some good decisions & had a few good redeeming qualities.

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Their story and especially the way it ended is a tragedy. As a Snapehead I wish Severus would have never said this awful word but he did. If he didn't then he would most likely end up with Lily and Harry would have had a different story. In a fictional timeline like this I think Neville would have been the chosen one. I also agree with Morgan- Had their friendship continued Snape wouldn't have been a DE. The problem was not the word the problem was the belief he had in it, which is the real reason why she didn't forgave him because she knew he still thinks and feels this way.

Snape is a good example of you can't save everyone from themselves. Lily was good and defended him for years yet he still hung around with future Death Eaters and called people mudbloods before their friendship ended. Plus, he was only in his 30s in the books, so it's not like he spent 50 years hung up on Lily. He turned out to be a better friend than Peter. I honestly think she reevaluated a lot of what he said, which led her to give James a chance. She and Remus had no reason to not get along and he probably liked the anti-bully reinforcement.

Snape is a grown man unable to move on from a childhood crush he had and an immature grudge he had with James.

Snape : U spied on us Petunia : Ur shirt ugly really petunia

Alan rickman’s acting had me in tears😢. Best Harry Potter actor by far. Bro by the end of this video I was in floods. Snape is one of my fav characters and to see how truly tragic his character is brings me to tears😢

I never did figure out, until now, how Snape was able to hide his mind from Voldemort. Now it all makes sense. Great video.

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Regarding the promise to keep Lily alive: From what I know, Voldemort made her the offer to live, which she refused, what triggered the sacrificial protection. So he actually kept his promise to Snape and only when she refused the offer he killed her. Since she made her choice and stood in his way. Plus he would have probably said to Snape something like "I offered her to step aside and survive, but she refused", telling him he honoured his promise and it was Lily's choice to die

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You know it’s really interesting how JP and SS’s relationship and interactions with Lily are different and similar at the same time. Despite JP being dead, they do serve as foils. (Though in this series, everyone is a foil to another character in some way.) Both of them are always either copying Lily or complementing her. Usually When the relationship is bad, they copy Lily but when it’s good, they complement her. 1. During the Sorting, JP was placed in Gryffindor after Lily. (Though he did already want that house.) Meanwhile Snape was placed in Slytherin. 2. Both of them had a terrible relationship with Petunia, that made Lily cry. However Snape originally dismissed her feelings before distracting her like she once did with him. Whereas JP offered to apologize for what happened and he did appear to try. (Similar to how Snape tried apologizing to Lily.) 3. Snape and Lily both have the exact same Patronus, a Doe, while JP’s animal differs, being a Stag. 4. Snape and Lily both said “Always” while JP says “Until the very end”. 5. Lily has RED hair like Gryffindor, which JP wanted while Her eyes are GREEN, like Slytherin as Snape wanted. And Those colors cause me to think of anger and tempers, which Snape definitely has and Jealousy and envy, which JP definitely embodies. 6. Both of them were incredible wizards however JP was more practical while SS was more for knowledge. 7. They dislike the others House but Dumbledore implies Snape could be a Gryffindor if sorted again and Dumbledore’s words also make it likely that James was considered for Slytherin. (JP would have a lot of the traits that Slytherin was looking for and what are the odds that both of Harry’s parents were sorted in barely a second.) 8. JP valued kindness, which is why he befriended Remus. Whereas Snape befriended Lily, who was said to be kind, because she happened to be the only magical kid his age.

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You did a great job with this video. I was wondering if you could make a video timeline of the Death Eaters.

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I believe James and Snape both loved Lily in their own genuine way. I’m seeing way to many bitter Snape haters here making one sided character complaints without any context for their motivations or outside factors that influenced them. James was a man born with all the luck in world while the opposite was true to Snape. James was indeed born to financial and mental comfort. Two parents that loved him to the point of spoiling him rotten with the very rare benefit of being a pure blood family without their bigotry. IE James had the best possible spawn point for anyone in HP universe. Snape got the opposite in every way being born poor to an emotional & probably physically abusive family that provided only the negatives of that upbringing with bad first relations with muggles & none of the security of pure blood families. Two of the biggest life altering chances a person has in the HP world as is in the real world is where your born & where you grow up. The poorer and least advantageous it is the more likely your life is to not exceed past that. James won the first round in life but as we see with many HP characters with bad family’s there luck gets significantly better with their time at Hogwarts. Alas here’s where Snape gets the truly rare phenomenon of having equally bad luck at school as well. While James gets to go to the progressive good boy house of heroics and nepotism Snape gets thrown to the proverbial wolves of the school sanctioned house of systemic bigotry and facism. I can write an entire essay on how JK doesn’t understand how keeping social issues systemically entrenched in schooling for children is a one stop ticket to facist indoctrination but not understanding how systematic issues and bigotry work is JK’s entire character ark right now irl. Of course an 11 yr old child would get slowly twisted by living in an isolated echo chamber of genocidal facist ideology. All the while James just got even more positive reinforcement for his progressive politics. It’s the rich get richer mentality but through a socio environmental lens. Snape as an awkward anti social teen had no choice but interact with the leading death eaters of his house at the time to avoid being targets by his dorm-mates. Yes he like darks arts but that just made it easier to fall in line with leading hierarchy of his house and doesn’t make you inherently bad. We see he didn’t start out with any prejudices but was slowly indoctrinated as a child growing up in that toxic environment as any child would be by that circumstance. The last straw that broke Snape’s back was also being born in the literal worst time to be at Hogwarts during the first war. He wasn’t just thrown into the dorm of legacy bigotry but during a time of war centered around these ideologies to the point that where you were sorted during those years determined then and there where you’d fall on political lines. All these outside factors out of their control all but plotted out their stories before they were even told. As is in the real world when it comes to being born luckier than others unfortunately. For this I give James a lot less credit for how his life turned out given how easy and expected it was for him to be on the right side as he was born into it. Born to good ppl, lived with good ppl, married a good person so why wouldn’t his life read like the hero archetype. Only thing would be that despite all that he still found it in himself to be a cruel bully to almost everyone for 5 of his 7 yrs at school. He was the school bully for most of his tenure and his biggest victim was Snape who couldn’t be any less privileged than him. Let’s be real he was made head boy by Dumbledore for pure nepotism as we see him do with Harry. Dumbledore needed James as the front line soldier in the war so he overlooked much of his past to elevate his standing in his school politics. He coveted Lily from day one and sought to break her away from Snape which was the reason for his targeting of him. James found Lily too good for the likes of Snape and took it upon himself to separate her from him. Snape did not do the same to petunia as their relationship was sh@t before and after Snape. Snape was as possssive as any kid would be with the only good thing in his life. However in the end he didn’t pursue Lily after she broke off from him. He respected her choice and let her be even with James. If Snape didn’t love her or even obsessed after her like so many say then why didn’t he stalk her and try to break her up from James. He even could’ve made a love potion to force her back to him like Voldermont’s mother did , but he didn’t because he genuinely loved her in a selfless way that respected her independence. James’ torment all but denied Snape any chance he could’ve had to escape the toxicity of his house. If he had been the heroic champion that guided others from dark paths he would’ve been the hero we all needed but instead he didn’t value any of the privilege he was given and guaranteed Snape’s trapped situation. The lesson Harry learned that allowed him to succeed where his father failed was in reaching across the line to ppl he thought enemies and giving them an alternative path like with Draco and his family. This was the reason he lived through the war where as his fathers sins caught up to him with his mistake in choosing who his enemies and friends where. Snape’s cruelty came from generational abuse and trauma that is passed on and learned from your surroundings. His abusive home, schooling, friend cycles, and general life all showed him nothing but the worst of humanity and after lily’s death he blames himself and become a suicidal empty broken shell of a man at his lowest. As someone well versed in this kind of trauma it’s well known for ppl in these states to project their misery onto everyone around them. It’s not to condone but also not to judge given their situation. There’s no mental heath or therapy in HP that we know of and given Snape self loathing he wouldn’t think himself worth of saving. He couldn’t bring himself to love Harry because he was the living embodiment of all his failures and trauma all wrapped into one person that could look at him and cause him to feel nothing but agony. The true worth of his character comes from his drive to honor the memory of someone who did right by him once and feeling a duty to return the favor. He choose the very little bit of good that came to his life over the other 99% of bad and did the right thing in the end. Thats a feat unmatched by anything James did. Yes, You can say that Snape didn’t do a lot more than he did for others but the hard truth is he gave out as much good as he was given. You get back what you invest in and Snape only knew very little good that he did right by it in return. He betrayed people who accepted and respected him(which was the only reason was a death eater, no he isn’t a racist facist) in favor of saving people who hated him without any desire for something in return. That is True unconditional love by definition. It will always speak much more volume for James to have only known love and support his whole life yet still find it in himself to be cruel without anyone teaching him that. Whereas Snape who knew only the opposite yet still did so much good regardless in the end. Yes James got better and Snape couldn’t overcome his demons post Lily’s death but when looking at the whole picture with all their lives in context and what each had to overcome in order to do good I can’t give James more credit than Snape. In a fairer world where each had similar lives and healthy relationships you’d be right in holding James over Snape but seeing how unfair one’s life was it paints a completely different story.

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I hope this gives you a laugh. When I first saw the video I thought I saw Snivilly. I know know that it wasn't but thought it was funnybans hope it gives you a laugh as well. Good video as always man keep upnthe great work.

I honestly love Snape and Lily together

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Contratery to Hermione, whom Harry never once disrespected. In fact the one and only Tim they were ever angry with each other was when Harry got a Firebolt, and Hermione told McGonagal, that it was likely from Sirius and cursed (she was only half right though).

I think anyone that has ever felt unrequited love can relate to Snape. You would be a miserable and angry too.

I’ve always thought that if Snape had told lily he loved her when she asked why she was different to other muffle borns she would possibly had given him a chance.

Lilly’s whole personality “she gave a dirty look”

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Seeing this video makes snape so much creepier. He essentially insulted his best friend with a slur, and then obsessed over her for years. He was fine with letting her husband and newborn son die because he wanted her, and then only bothered to care about harry because of the eyes thing. Snape is a creep who people only like thanks to Alan Rickman's amazing portrayal

For the people who have read the books, or seen the films a lot and feel as though they understand the characters, we can see that Snape loved Lily. However, I have listened to Potterless (a podcast about a grown man reading children’s books for the first time, and I agree with the man, Mike Schubert. No matter what your intentions, you have to realize when it is too late. In the books it says that Snape stalked Lily, and he told Voldemort that he could kill James and Harry, but just keep Harry alive. That is very self centered, to only keep a family (Lily, because he loved her) alive because he loved her. Snape didn’t care about Harry, even when he was supposed to be protecting him. But Dumbledore put it best “You disgust me,” said Dumbledore and Harry had never heard so much contempt in his voice. Snape seemed to shrink a little. “You do not care, then, about the deaths of her husband and child? They can die as long as you have what you want?” - Deathly Hallows, a princes tale. But right there, Snape is fine with Harry Potter being killed as long as Lily lives. That’s very selfish. But as we know, or at least those who read the books, Snape killed Dumbledore on his own orders, so I guess that kind of redeems him. But for those of us who have watched Pirates of the Caribbean, “One soul is not equal to another”, long live Davey Jones, the most real resurected sea monster.

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Hey Morgan! I was just wondering if you had checked out the fan made film « The greater good » by Broad strokes? I really miss the fan film reaction series 😭😭

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Dumbledore just pulled a reverse Palpatine after Lily died 😂 18:28

Lily? after all this time?. Always RIP Alan Rickman 😢

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I’ve seen a lot of people saying that Snape was an obsessed stalker or an incel in regards to his relationship with Lily and I heavily disagree. Lily was literally the only friend that Snape made throughout his entire life and his only escape from his heavily abusive home life as a child. It’s not easy for someone to just move on when their only friend abandons them. He also never stalked her or displayed any creepy behaviour towards her even after she broke off their friendship. To be clear, I am not at all saying that Snape was a completely good person. FAR from it. Is bullying of the children at Hogwarts during his time as a professor was undeniably inexcusable. But I really do think his relationship with Lily is genuinely tragic

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Imagine what Harry's relationship with Snape would've been like if he resembled Lily, Malfoy probably would've been ever more jealous of him lol

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OH Cokeworth is one of the places the Dursleys fled to, from the Admissions letters for Harry, I believe it's the site of the hotel, where they had cold tinned tomatoes on toast, and the manager came over to say there were about 100 letters at the desk for Harry

Hey Morgan I was wondering could you play the old ominous music that's some what relaxing and scary. Not a fan of the up beat happy fun music in the background.

It is so funny to me that people love to see whats on the surface but never like to delve deep. Snape hated muggle born and he used racial slur. Well yeah he hated muggles, did anyone miss the fact that he and his mother were abused my his muggle father? And then he was made fun of by Petunia (another muggle)? James bullied him but everyone loves blaming Snape for getting bullied. This is the most shocking to me. James started the rivalry, ganged up on him 4:1, abused and tortured hin publicly with everyone laughing on him and just coz Snape tried defend himself, it somehow became mutual bullying?? Are you going to stand and get yourself tortured without defiance? And if you defend then that's bullying? Everyone is after Snape being into dark arts. So what?? Can't a person have passion? Criminal psychologist have to delve into the psyche of criminal so now if they search about various crimes and the motives behind the criminal, does that mean, we have to go and torture that person coz he showed interest in motives of criminal? Yes he had one sided love for Lily and yes, it went on for all his life. But why just twist it just because he was not a saint? Can't a person with shaky moral grounds love someone?? What kinda obsession did he show? Did he drugged her and married her like Voldy's mum did to Tom Riddle? Did he forcefully marry her? Did he try to ruin the married life of her and James? Exactly what makes his one sided love suddenly obsession?? I know Snape was not a good person but making innocent thing he did in his life as some kinda hidden motive is just beyond ridiculous!!

I love HP, but tbh the more i grow up the more i realize that love is displayed so bad in it. if you love someone you'll know that it doesn't work that way. Snape was not in love, he had obsession to a mental health level. its not normal to waste your life just because you love someone, especially when that someone has a family and kid(s), they were never together + they were kids. Snape as a theoretical and philosophical character is great, when you view him within the borders of "its just a book/movie", but if you observe in real life a lot of things in the series are just wrong and represented too "fairytale-y", real life ain't that simple man, especially something like love. in my opinion love is the most difficult thing to achieve in life, to love someone in the long term(like years), you gotta be prepared cuz its hard and requires patience. you cant just love someone and risk everything for them when they had a happy family and now they're dead

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Did you know that lily was pregnant whith her second child when voldernort killed her and she was going to make snape the godfather

Can you do a video of the Marauders Era year by year? (I know you do an over view of the 4 from beginning to end but it would be interesting to see what happened every year during their time in Hogwarts)

Hopefully they'll show the video of about the wizarding kind of the wizard world soon.

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When you think about it, Lily is a terrible friend to Snape. She blamed him for everything and was quick to get mad at him for every little thing.

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I dont understand why people like Snape so much. (Aside from the movies) If you read the books logically, you can like Snape. But love him like he's a saint? He's a bad person who used dark magic, and he didn't even like Harry he cared about Lily, so he just took care of Harry "just cause" I know people dont like James much, but he at least learned and matured. Lily said james was immature and he matured. Snape never matured. Its that simple.