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The ESPN WWF "Hatchet Job" - Pro Wrestling's Hold on America 

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During an episode of WWF Raw is War in April 1999, Jerry Lawler and Michael Cole spoke on commentary about a "Hatchet Job" that had aired on ESPN. The documentary, part of ESPN's "Outside The Lines" series, took an in-depth look at the popularity of pro-wrestling while also bringing up negative points about both WCW and the WWF. Vince McMahon felt that this documentary (named Pro Wrestling's Hold on America, was nothing more than a hit piece; a presentation ordered by ABC television because WWF Raw is War was beating Monday Night Football in the television ratings.
The documentary features interviews from both WCW and WWF talent including Chris Jericho, The Rock, Vince McMahon, Bret Hart, Mick Foley and Eric Bischoff. This video looks at the entire documentary.
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@WrestlingBios
@WrestlingBios 5 месяцев назад
Happy New Year everyone!
@markjones5647
@markjones5647 5 месяцев назад
Happy New Year to you all thanks for another great year loved every video u put together best wishes to u all and looking for to another great wrestling bios year to come
@risboturbide9396
@risboturbide9396 5 месяцев назад
Happy New Year! 🍻🍻
@jerichobeach2967
@jerichobeach2967 5 месяцев назад
Hny from vancouver canada
@FozzQuaker
@FozzQuaker 5 месяцев назад
Happy New Year My Friend
@PunkRJH90
@PunkRJH90 5 месяцев назад
Happy New Year to you too. Hope to enjoy more of the War. Thanks to your contribution to wrestling history.
@rattlehead1003
@rattlehead1003 5 месяцев назад
The "Roids <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1447">24:7</a>" sign in the crowd was funny as hell.
@curthennig9448
@curthennig9448 5 месяцев назад
Was Bruno holding the sign?
@mrflash9154
@mrflash9154 5 месяцев назад
“This man’s name isn’t really The Rock.” 💀
@JWS1985
@JWS1985 5 месяцев назад
LMAO
@FozzQuaker
@FozzQuaker 5 месяцев назад
I know...my mind is blown
@brettrossi034
@brettrossi034 5 месяцев назад
God damn how could they destroy everything I believed to be true?
@tims4502
@tims4502 5 месяцев назад
Wait, Mr. Rock’s first name isn’t really “The?”
@runvalddarkstone5517
@runvalddarkstone5517 5 месяцев назад
@@tims4502 You too must admit that "Bulging" is not really a Pg First Name. But don't be fouled, this is his stage name, every body have a stage name, no?
@edwinross8168
@edwinross8168 5 месяцев назад
In all fairness, Vince was right about mlb. They knew their players were juicing and didn't care even while Vince was on trial in 92. They banned them but shrugged their shoulders and went "oh well"
@marilynsgirl01
@marilynsgirl01 Месяц назад
There have also been numerous incidents in the NFL of players having severe brain damage from concussions and even some murders similar to what happened with Benoit.
@AMTXXIII23
@AMTXXIII23 5 месяцев назад
Bob: “What is The Rock gonna be Cooking”? Ryan: Pie. He’s cooking Pie. 😂😂
@GODMC87
@GODMC87 5 месяцев назад
lol i was scrolling through your comments right when he said this
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
@TherealRNOwwfpooh 5 месяцев назад
Shouldn't that actually be what his wife's making? XD
@eduardocamachojr7990
@eduardocamachojr7990 5 месяцев назад
Puntang pie
@DopeyDetector
@DopeyDetector 5 месяцев назад
How old are you?
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
@TherealRNOwwfpooh 5 месяцев назад
@@DopeyDetector Me? I'm 39 years old. I was making an off-color joke riffing on "the kind of pie Rock serves", because "Poontang" IS slang for a female vagina, so it's obvious what "Poontang Pie" is made from.
@scottturner3831
@scottturner3831 5 месяцев назад
ESPN : "WWE screwed WWE."
@nicholashurst780
@nicholashurst780 5 месяцев назад
And yet ESPN thinks it's the babyface in all of this
@JobberBud
@JobberBud 5 месяцев назад
This made me literally LOL
@thepubknight6144
@thepubknight6144 5 месяцев назад
Dave Meltzer took what ESPN did and dialed it up to a million
@unclegreenskatesoda9570
@unclegreenskatesoda9570 5 месяцев назад
Yo Vince laughing at the Mark Henry skit is GOLD
@anonymousnobody326
@anonymousnobody326 5 месяцев назад
Wrestling Bios educating us on Shakespeare. This channel has everything.
@jamesgentry13
@jamesgentry13 5 месяцев назад
Except he lies about the ratings. Raw never came close ever to beating Monday night football
@jamesgentry13
@jamesgentry13 5 месяцев назад
@jabron.destoroyah I went throught that list multiple times. Raw never came close
@anonymousnobody326
@anonymousnobody326 5 месяцев назад
@@jamesgentry13He never said they did?
@carybeweary7209
@carybeweary7209 5 месяцев назад
Reminds me of a bloody Spike Dudley quoting Shakespeare in Beyond The Mat
@luisrizo8813
@luisrizo8813 5 месяцев назад
When is Rock gonna be asked about being GOP?
@ZachlikesMetal
@ZachlikesMetal 5 месяцев назад
There's something about that old looking video format that makes it so Nostalgic. Good video as always.
@scottpearce771
@scottpearce771 5 месяцев назад
Takes you back to good times when the world was an amazing place good memories!
@ZachlikesMetal
@ZachlikesMetal 5 месяцев назад
@@scottpearce771 Yep it does.
@geedee1264
@geedee1264 5 месяцев назад
Rose tinted glasses, these wrestlers were used and abused and dropped dead like fruit flies, exploiting Pillmans death on air to cover themselves, yeah, amazing place so different 😂😂
@blurrymagnet
@blurrymagnet 5 месяцев назад
geedee1264 Aw xD let ‘em have it haha
@ZachlikesMetal
@ZachlikesMetal 5 месяцев назад
@geedee1264 Workers around the world get exploited and used everyday in a lot of work places for centuries. Wrestling is nothing new.
@Godeater13273
@Godeater13273 5 месяцев назад
It's insane just seeing how massive professional wrestling was back then. Could not go anywhere without seeing some form of Austin merch or someone talking about the WWF or WCW. Austin shifted 12_13 million worth of merch in 98 alone.Everyone had a wrestling game either on the PS1 or Nintendo 64. Wrestling was all over the mainstream. Austin and Rock stuff was filling the Billboard charts. Austin had multiple videos on the Billboard charts and Rock would later on. At some points Raw was attracting anywhere from 4 to 10 million viewers. Austin was attracting 12000 to 14000 people to house shows. Today WWE does around 2.5 million at most and nobody is drawing that many people to house shows. I really doubt it will ever be that popular again. Me and my step brother were huge Austin marks and so were his friends. It all went weird once Austin turned heel and joined Vince.
@firewalker1372
@firewalker1372 5 месяцев назад
Dude, we use to tailgate out in the parking lot several hours before the show and also catch the wrestlers coming into the arena.
@Godeater13273
@Godeater13273 5 месяцев назад
@@firewalker1372 those were the days.
@fc775
@fc775 5 месяцев назад
yea a rock t shirt or something it was crazy especially compared to now
@Justicesdad
@Justicesdad 5 месяцев назад
As if it was our soap operas
@illvape
@illvape 5 месяцев назад
whats more insane is its biggger now and it doesn't feel like it
@JPD2587
@JPD2587 5 месяцев назад
In 2023 it seems impossible that wrestling (or ANYTHING) would beat the NFL.
@tyshunrussell4837
@tyshunrussell4837 5 месяцев назад
@@carlos_herrerabs
@UCUSmusic
@UCUSmusic 5 месяцев назад
Blame it on Hogan
@johnpenguinthe3rd13
@johnpenguinthe3rd13 5 месяцев назад
In the United States, the NFL is by far the # 1 sport by a wide margin. Basketball and Baseball come in at semi-distant 2nds and 3rds (which is crazy since Baseball use to be # 1 in the U.S before the 1994 / 1995 baseball strike. That strike backfired in a huge way). That's very significant since the U.S is the 3rd most populated country in the world AND it's the # 1 biggest country when it comes to revenue spent on entertainment (while China and India have much, much larger populations, India's spending power on entertainment is NOT good at all as most people there don't have enough money and people in China are limited to the amount of entertainment they are allowed to consume per week because of the social credit nonsense). HOWEVER, If we are talking WORLDWIDE, then soccer (futball) is by far the # 1 sport (it's hands down the most popular worldwide by an incredibly wide margin and it makes the most money on a WORLDWIDE scale). Then there are sports that are SUPER popular in certain regions (Hockey is SUPER popular in Canada as it's the # 1 sport in Canada and it's also popular in some parts of Australia and Europe, Cricket is insanely popular in the UK, other sports like tennis, golf, and volleyball are super popular in various specific regions, etc).
@BlueMageWithSoulEdge
@BlueMageWithSoulEdge 5 месяцев назад
If you only knew how carried the NFL, NBA, and NHL have been. The NFL would not have survived the 40's if it wasn't for the gov. Going after other sports more popular than it, and again in the 80's. The MLB wouldn't be here if the gov. Didn't go after video games and pool. The only reason why sports-ball is popular is because the government and t.v. companies have and will go after anything that threatens the "N's". Remember "Ultimate Freesbi"? Remember how popular it got in the 2k, to the point of a talk of a league? Remember the gov. Came in and "talks" happened with the three possible seeders, and then the taxes and regulations made it vanish. Remember X-games and how the gov. tried to shut them down?
@devious187
@devious187 5 месяцев назад
The funny thing is that it isn't true... neither WCW or WWF ever once beat Monday Night Football in the ratings, but they were taking away a massive chunk of their audience and caused advertising rates to drop
@blacksuede
@blacksuede 5 месяцев назад
I was a senior in high school the Winter of '98 and wrestling was everywhere.
@alm5266
@alm5266 5 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2049">34:09</a> I've always loved how Savage actually spoke like that when out of character!
@Obscusion2
@Obscusion2 5 месяцев назад
Vince bringing up the MLB not having any steroid testing program at the time was definitely a jab at the home run chase between Sammy Sosa & Mark McGwire in 1998, as both were accused of taking steroids at the time when they achieved their wild records, and McGwire himself would eventually admit to taking steroids during his entire career, including 1998. The whataboutism he used weakened his argument, but in that one case he did have a point. Also, while seeing Brian Pillman Jr. look at the memorial case for his father I couldn't help but think "I'm nobody's junior" & "I even have a college degree!", lines from his Lexis King debut promo package.
@CarterJ9
@CarterJ9 5 месяцев назад
I agree whataboutism tends to weaken an argument. Buy in the context here--ESPN trying to use steroid use as evident of some sort of moral bankruptcy while at the same time pushing the hell out of the home run race--it absolutely should be on the table. Not for excusing WWE's own actions, which is why whataboutism is a fallacious argument, But in terms of ppinting out the hypocrisy.
@matthewzablocki5310
@matthewzablocki5310 2 месяца назад
A lot of the MLB was juiced. He had a major point. Plus, they had no testing program setup to make sure the players aren't. And the just shrug "oh well".
@Estolcles
@Estolcles 5 месяцев назад
Vince's biggest problem with this was probably WCW guys getting more time and attention given to them by "legitimate press".
@Kinogotiate
@Kinogotiate 5 месяцев назад
They had years of history going on big time tv programs especially with Hogan, Macho, and Ric Flair.
@richardclark7224
@richardclark7224 5 месяцев назад
How about that
@sakanelli7524
@sakanelli7524 5 месяцев назад
I went to school in South London and was suspended from secondary school 3 times for WWF related stuff. Gave my science teacher the crotch chop, brought beer into school one day and done the stone cold thing and hit someone in my year on the head with a folding chair in PE. Good times in my life. I’m a criminal solicitor now.
@MrSatz99
@MrSatz99 5 месяцев назад
How is London now???😅
@Mazz3D
@Mazz3D 5 месяцев назад
😂 Thanks for your backstory! Can't tell you how many times I was suspended for my fandom. Used to bash my head on the desks lol😅
@Mujangga
@Mujangga 5 месяцев назад
Why do you solicit criminals?
@sakanelli7524
@sakanelli7524 5 месяцев назад
@@Mujanggapimping ain’t easy
@garethrevell5873
@garethrevell5873 5 месяцев назад
LEGEND!!! 😂
@JayTeeAyy
@JayTeeAyy 5 месяцев назад
ESPN: “Pro Wrestling is a sweated scripted soap opera” Also ESPN: “This guys arm is broken , this is so barbaric”
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 5 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1929">32:09</a> Honestly? I could see the moments before that interview going like that: Mom (or some producer. Or both): "Remember to say that it is all real!" Kid: "But mom! Everyone knows it's not real! My friends will make fun of me for saying that I think it's real!" Mom: "Just say that it is real."
@RoccocoVs
@RoccocoVs 5 месяцев назад
Cory and the kindergartner are not the heroes we deserved, but the heroes we needed o7
@tonytackett1905
@tonytackett1905 5 месяцев назад
When I was a kid my dad would sit at the VCR and record every show for me and "edit" it by stopping the tape and restarting it after certain parts. Still a lifelong fan 20+ years later. If parents wanted to, they would.
@DrBeauHightower
@DrBeauHightower 5 месяцев назад
Parents fear mongering wrestling 😂 we turned out fine. I think
@MosesBelieved
@MosesBelieved 5 месяцев назад
I think 😆
@trippytradingcards7852
@trippytradingcards7852 5 месяцев назад
Well to be honest it’s kind of hard to ask the opinions of those it didn’t go well for ☠️
@TheCaptainSlappy
@TheCaptainSlappy 5 месяцев назад
@@trippytradingcards7852 Degenerate junkies & gamblers only tell you about the 10% of wins...not the 90% of their losses.
@69No-rr9fi
@69No-rr9fi 3 месяца назад
I didn't,..and I didn't even watch much Wrestling
@lilbeezyspc
@lilbeezyspc 3 месяца назад
Nahhh we didn't... but who cares! It wasn't their job to parent us!!
@TDunn41594
@TDunn41594 5 месяцев назад
Should do the Vince McMahon Bob Costas 2001 interview
@zacharyscott6779
@zacharyscott6779 5 месяцев назад
ESPN would most certainly use their platform to smear something in order to get views for their products. They've done it for years.
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 5 месяцев назад
Yet now they are in business with WWE to get views for their products.
@oneandonlymario659
@oneandonlymario659 5 месяцев назад
It did seem to have a lot of good factual information and the interviewers did a good job of asking the right questions, but didn't have Bischoff or McMahon answer anything in full. I'd say Bios is right that this was a timed documentary to both denigrate and take advantage of the popularity of pro wrestling at the time.
@L_Train
@L_Train 5 месяцев назад
It wasnt really a documentary. It was a sports investigate journalism show called "Outside the Lines". It covered more serious topics surrounding sports, usually off the field issues. It tried to be an unbiased, professional news program.
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
@TherealRNOwwfpooh 5 месяцев назад
@@L_Train Except, because it aired alongside 20/20 on ABC, which also aired Monday Night Football & as "The King" stated, the WWF was at the peak of its mainstream success, whereas Monday Night Football was in the dull drums (so much so that the Empty Arena Match between The Rock & Mankind in 1999 was the literal halftime show of that year's SuperBowl), it couldn't remain unbiased due to ABC trying to jump on the pro wrestling bandwagon.
@L_Train
@L_Train 5 месяцев назад
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh because what? You didn't finish your point. Wwf was up and football was down(kind of) but what does "except, because" have to do anything. If you want a hit piece watch John stossel not otl
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
@TherealRNOwwfpooh 5 месяцев назад
@@L_Train 20/20 journalist John Stossel got ear-smacked by "Dr. D" David Schultz at the urging of chairman Mr. McMahon (who encouraged David Schultz to remain in-character after being grilled with the "I think it's fake" accusation, which led to Stossel getting smacked around); However, the questionable journalist was eventually paid through settlement court. My point was, with MNF being down & the WWF being up, ABC was trying to use OTL to jump on the pro wrestling bandwagon, even if detractors still tried to wring the business through the proverbial mud due to its seedier & more salacious elements.
@blacknetsmed
@blacknetsmed 5 месяцев назад
​​@@L_TrainUnbiased?!?!? Not at all, rewatch the last 2 minutes of this "expose". ESPN's Bob Ley is essentially encouraging you the viewer to stop watching wrestling. It's like calling Op-Ed Articles "journalism", just because it's loaded with tons of factual information. Opinion Articles isn't real journalism. They're still covering the story with a slant or an overall agenda.
@crazycat6lad918
@crazycat6lad918 5 месяцев назад
I was around 11 in Australia when this documentary aired, and we did alot of what was mentioned. Suck it chants/ crossed arms, stone cold stunners etc. I remember we would get in trouble, but only as far as being explained why it was inappropriate. I don't recall anyone getting suspended. I also remember in high school (14-15) we would have massive groups of us "fighting" every recess and lunch, but it was just our own version of a royal rumble, with plenty of wrestling moves. The teachers freaked out initially thinking it was a legitimate fight, then once they realized we were all friends having fun, they just let us go 😂
@primusvsunicron1
@primusvsunicron1 5 месяцев назад
Vince kinda has point, the franchises of JAG/NCIS, FBI and Law & Order have more inappropriate stuff than WCW and WWF
@Official_Kings_Versus
@Official_Kings_Versus 5 месяцев назад
NYPD Blue as well
@ebert311
@ebert311 5 месяцев назад
NYPD Blue yes, the rest no. We are talking late 90’s, not now. Law and Order came on late at night back then.
@ebert311
@ebert311 5 месяцев назад
Last point. ESPN Outside the Lines had nearly 30 seasons. Why target wrestling? Because it is a ratings magnet. Wrestling fans would watch it. But this series also covered OJ, politicians, Hurricane Katrina, and other topics around sports. This was the first version of 30 for 30. So, I don’t think this was a hit piece. It was a topic to get people to watch. Also wrestling never beat 14.8 ratings on Monday Night Football in 1998.
@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854
@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854 5 месяцев назад
...but THEN Vince has a pay per view the following month where he KILLS one of his wrestlers!
@TheSteveTell
@TheSteveTell 5 месяцев назад
Do more of these! This was great.
@gregoryhoyle3739
@gregoryhoyle3739 5 месяцев назад
Great lines by Jerry Lawler. Makes a ton of sense too.
@lutherheggs451
@lutherheggs451 5 месяцев назад
highly likely they were fed to him by Vince in gorilla
@gregoryhoyle3739
@gregoryhoyle3739 5 месяцев назад
@@lutherheggs451 For sure. Vince was great at hitting back.
@nicktaylor2657
@nicktaylor2657 5 месяцев назад
Monsoon?
@firewalker1372
@firewalker1372 5 месяцев назад
@@nicktaylor2657Gorilla is the area between backstage and the stage entrance. It’s usually Vince, Vince’s right hand man, and typically the person who produced the match getting ready to happen. There are usually a couple of TVs, Vince is on a headset telling Jerry and good ol Jr. what to say.
@mmorpgal4229
@mmorpgal4229 5 месяцев назад
I did the ddp bang a lot in elementary school baseball. I was having fun but my coach found it annoying whenever I did it
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 5 месяцев назад
Sounds like your coach was a hater
@jermboy47
@jermboy47 5 месяцев назад
D D P... Bang!
@italianozuzu1232
@italianozuzu1232 5 месяцев назад
I use to do that cross face 😂😂😂
@CarterJ9
@CarterJ9 5 месяцев назад
You mean he wasn't feeling the bang?
@kbhalacy
@kbhalacy 5 месяцев назад
That's awesome 😅
@paulcastle4748
@paulcastle4748 5 месяцев назад
The whole Pillman thing is what gets me: they said he passed away from an enlarged heart. But they also wouldn't say that it's hereditary and his father passed away from one as well I think.
@thepatsnumber1fan
@thepatsnumber1fan 5 месяцев назад
Crazy to believe wwe was beating nfl and nba in the ratings
@AFMountaineer2000
@AFMountaineer2000 5 месяцев назад
I always found conventional sports boring. When I was in basic training we were allowed to go to a Spurs game. I was so bored I was wishing I was back on based getting yelled at for something stupid.
@karlitosway7474
@karlitosway7474 5 месяцев назад
It’s even crazier that everyone blames NFL and NBA for low ratings nowadays. That’s how you know it’s not the sports, it’s the product that’s responsible for the low ratings. If people cared they’d watch WWE but they don’t because they fail to draw.
@paulbenedict4241
@paulbenedict4241 5 месяцев назад
Wrestling was not beating the NFL. The ratings comparison was against cable shows, not network. NFL was on ABC, not cable. And the NFL then, as now, was far more popular and had far higher ratings,
@yourmother4385
@yourmother4385 5 месяцев назад
Certain segments beat NFL. It's Meltzer type stuff.
@kidnicky7489
@kidnicky7489 5 месяцев назад
*WWF
@versebuchanan512
@versebuchanan512 4 месяца назад
Parents in the 90s were right to worry. If I hadn't given my cousin a Twist of Fate on the trampoline back then, I might still be alive today.
@RedFive03
@RedFive03 5 месяцев назад
Hulk literally wearing the world title from the fingerpoke of doom while saying they never shortchange the fans is hilarious.
@justinsane5590
@justinsane5590 5 месяцев назад
Interviewer: "Do you do steroids?" Scott Steiner:"You see this arm?" Nuff said big poppa pump
@AndyZoric
@AndyZoric 5 месяцев назад
Today 95% of media is controlled by 6 corporations all telling you the same thing. Some things never change. Except Wrestling Bios. This channel never steers you wrong!
@blurrymagnet
@blurrymagnet 5 месяцев назад
When I was quoting this in 2014, it was 5 Is this progress? Lol
@stingrey1571
@stingrey1571 5 месяцев назад
I remember when this came out. I hate agreeing with Vince. He was right. This was a hit piece to take down the industry.
@MrBeardsley
@MrBeardsley 5 месяцев назад
Monday Night Football or no, it was a cynical ploy to hop on the wrestling bandwagon for ratings. See also: Wrestling’s Greatest Secrets Revealed.
@MarkDaddy69
@MarkDaddy69 5 месяцев назад
Why do you hate agreeing with Vince?
@celtic69
@celtic69 5 месяцев назад
@@MarkDaddy69world renowned massive cyunt vince mcmahon?
@sainttrunks1982
@sainttrunks1982 5 месяцев назад
he wasnt right and you know it
@jamesgentry13
@jamesgentry13 5 месяцев назад
Hardly. Exposing wrestling shitty side is good. And raw never came close to beating Monday night football
@lulsinki
@lulsinki 5 месяцев назад
Eddie Kingston gave you a Shoutout on an interview. He mentioned this RU-vid channel called reliving the war. I was sure I'd heard of that before and it's you! He was talking about how he'd like wrestling to be as popular as it once was, the stuff that you show 🙌🏽
@gamesthatiplay9083
@gamesthatiplay9083 5 месяцев назад
It would be great to get a follow up on Cory. See if he ended up in prison or something. Thankfully I always saw pro wrestling as encouragement to lift weights and bulk up to be a man if I was ever going to make it in the real world.
@firewalker1372
@firewalker1372 5 месяцев назад
I asked the same thing, curious what ol Corey is getting up to now days. Edit: he is on Facebook, still over in Semi Valley Ca.
@Urineil
@Urineil 5 месяцев назад
Simi* ​@@firewalker1372
@FreedomOfSpeechIsAnIllusion
@FreedomOfSpeechIsAnIllusion 5 месяцев назад
I’m 37 and even now, when I tell people I’m a wrestling fan the first words out of most peoples mouths are “You know it’s fake right?”
@landmarkcreations1183
@landmarkcreations1183 5 месяцев назад
The Melanie Pillman interview on the Raw the day after was confusing at the time. I was thinking his death actually a storyline because I couldn’t believe Vince actually did that.
@thepubknight6144
@thepubknight6144 5 месяцев назад
I remember her scowl at some of his questions
@coreyhall1150
@coreyhall1150 5 месяцев назад
Vince will do ANYTHING to cover his own behind.
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 5 месяцев назад
@@coreyhall1150There was nothing to cover though. Brian took the drugs on his own and was taking them before he joined WWF. VInce was trying to get ahead of the press that was going to blame him when it actually wasn't his fault this time.
@coreyhall1150
@coreyhall1150 5 месяцев назад
@@chriskay1449 WHAT DO U THINK covering his ass means? You literally just described Vince COVERING HIS OWN ASS by doin what he did. Think before you speak honcho.
@geedee1264
@geedee1264 5 месяцев назад
Jesus Christ people will justify anything
@markostojic99
@markostojic99 5 месяцев назад
"Special Delivery Jones, here" "he's workin' the gimmick, brother" I'm fuckin' dead hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@kitfo18
@kitfo18 5 месяцев назад
This comes down to the same problem as always. Parents and yeah Karen was nothing but excuses.
@imogenaris1697
@imogenaris1697 5 месяцев назад
This video is one of the best, in depth overviews of a wrestling documentary ever produced. Your style of covering each argumen, scene for scene, is brilliant. This ESPN piece was unfamiliar, so it was very eye-opening watching & listening to this, to say the least. Vince McMahon is eerily reminiscent of Jim Jones here. Watching the 10 Bell Salute to Brian Pillman ( R.I.P. ) was a sobering memory. The look in his eyes on the titantron said it all about his pain & suffering. Sad to know that we would lose Rick Rude ( R.I.P ) & others, 5 yrs later & after
@Blazingarrow8
@Blazingarrow8 5 месяцев назад
People used to bring the family out to watch public executions. They sold food and merch at them! At one time there were more brothels than churches in the United States. So, I think my friends and I watching wrestling is pretty tame compared to what previous generations grew up on.
@troywright359
@troywright359 2 месяца назад
Yeah but obviously if you're telling teachers to suck it in school, you're going to get in trouble
@HawkOfLight1
@HawkOfLight1 5 месяцев назад
Mr.MacBios narrative input is so golden.
@HawkOfLight1
@HawkOfLight1 5 месяцев назад
I use Mr.MacBio as a respectful pronoun.
@kamenanew9867
@kamenanew9867 5 месяцев назад
No chance, heh that's what I've got...to not watch all this man's stuff.
@jamesesslinger1976
@jamesesslinger1976 5 месяцев назад
Vintage wrestling got more popular than pro sports and I think thats great!
@snowvalkyrie
@snowvalkyrie 5 месяцев назад
Classic Bischoff, “I don’t remember.” Even back then Bischoff was a candidate for Alzheimer's drugs.
@curthennig9448
@curthennig9448 5 месяцев назад
Expanded to BlueChew now.
@RobSkillz881
@RobSkillz881 5 месяцев назад
Man I miss the 90s
@alesitercrimson24
@alesitercrimson24 5 месяцев назад
Not me. I miss the 2000's
@RobSkillz881
@RobSkillz881 5 месяцев назад
@@alesitercrimson24 that's cool too especially the early 2000s
@TheMacabreTavern
@TheMacabreTavern 5 месяцев назад
This was actually much better done than the "Pro Wrestling: Secrets Exposed" Fox did. But, OTL was always one of those hatchet shows disguised as journalism. I used to watch this after school every day, and the show is actually one of the reasons I got in sports talk radio.
@fka322
@fka322 5 месяцев назад
I never cared for Outside the Lines. They always seemed to create controversy for controvery's sake.
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
@TherealRNOwwfpooh 5 месяцев назад
@@fka322 "Controvery Creates Cash", the subtitle for Eric Bischoff's autobiography, coincidentally enough.
@L_Train
@L_Train 5 месяцев назад
​@@TherealRNOwwfpooh isn't the main title "grateful" lol?
@TherealRNOwwfpooh
@TherealRNOwwfpooh 5 месяцев назад
@@L_Train I wasn't joking, even if though it seemed like it. Eric Bischoff's autobiography IS, quite literally, given the subtitle "Controversy Creates Cash".
@L_Train
@L_Train 5 месяцев назад
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh I know, I find that funny because the actual title is "Grateful" isn't it? Grateful, controversy creates cash.
@markopazlo
@markopazlo 5 месяцев назад
My primary school in Birmingham was strict with WWF stuff. The weekly newsletter would try and get parents to stop letting us watch it. I had a phone call home and the day in the headmasters office after telling him to suck it. Wrestling in the playground got you put in isolation which basically turned into classes with your mates when we just did royal rumbles on the field hill 😂
@nicholashurst780
@nicholashurst780 5 месяцев назад
I wouldn't be surprised if Eric bischoff literally couldn't tell them how many people had tested positive for steroids because the Turner legal department is smart enough to know you can't just share potentially career damaging medical info about your contractors.
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 5 месяцев назад
Saying they tested positive is in no way "career damaging". Hell, he doesn't even have to mention anyone. He can just give a number. He ducked the question because he didn't want to out himself looking the other way.
@nicholashurst780
@nicholashurst780 5 месяцев назад
@@chriskay1449 I'm not referring to what's actually actionable, but I know how cautious corporate lawyers can be and no you cannot just give a number without knowing you are going to have a long session of being asked to name names
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 5 месяцев назад
@@nicholashurst780 Then he can simply say HIPAA and that will shut them up.
@HoustonHardHitters01
@HoustonHardHitters01 5 месяцев назад
This was a 10 outta 10 my friend. This brings me back to my childhood and puts in perspective just how dominate WWE and WCW were in mainstream in that 5 year span
@constantincebuc229
@constantincebuc229 5 месяцев назад
Now the WWE or AEW would never defeat NFL.
@firewalker1372
@firewalker1372 5 месяцев назад
That or college fb, NFL and College FB generate billions a year.
@ELRIFL
@ELRIFL 5 месяцев назад
It's more like the NFL (and NBA) added their own "storylines"... Brady vs Manning was their answer to Rock vs Austin and it worked. Chiefs/Taylor Swift are pretty much a soap opera on turf. Plus their own element of backstage drama and yellow journalism. And like WWE, now that all the veterans who made it big have retired, the product is starting to become stale.
@oldironsides4107
@oldironsides4107 4 месяца назад
Wwe never beat the nfl. Just lawlor talking out of his ass
@oldironsides4107
@oldironsides4107 4 месяца назад
@@ELRIFLno they were doing that for decades before that. As did every sport
@jasonvaught2274
@jasonvaught2274 5 месяцев назад
Rumble talking about his real life G.I. Joes makes me think of Tony Khan!
@vex8ion196
@vex8ion196 5 месяцев назад
"I headbutt the door. I knock myself the f*** out." 😂
@TonySpike
@TonySpike 5 месяцев назад
Coronation Street exposed, tonight on ESPN
@That_Guy-
@That_Guy- 5 месяцев назад
Ken Barlow refused to put over Roy's rolls brother
@BudSchnelker
@BudSchnelker 4 месяца назад
@@That_Guy- Rosie and Sophie refused to do a bra and panties pillow fight.
@jamesabernethy7896
@jamesabernethy7896 5 месяцев назад
There is an overwhelmingly positive response in the comments. I've followed your channel for years and some might worry that this is a dark way to end 2023 but I think it's great. Honest, grounding, reflective and respectful. I hope everyone is having a great start to the new year.
@writeronfire
@writeronfire 5 месяцев назад
I like that DeNiro movie where he wears pink and goes around crying about getting screwed. Oscarworthy performance
@kamenanew9867
@kamenanew9867 5 месяцев назад
I saw that one, it was an excellent in execution
@JonathanHassingerChannel
@JonathanHassingerChannel 3 месяца назад
Comedian.
@stingrey1571
@stingrey1571 5 месяцев назад
I hate agreeing with Vince. Dude was prescient when he called out baseball for lack of steroid testing.
@alesitercrimson24
@alesitercrimson24 5 месяцев назад
Whats hilarious is ESPN proudly promotes WWE on their TV today haha
@lancergt1000
@lancergt1000 5 месяцев назад
To be honest, I wonder how steroids are viewed in wrestling from other countries, I've never heard of any kind of steroid scandals from Mexican or Japanese wrestling
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 5 месяцев назад
Because nobody in their press cared about drugs since they were in fear of the cartels.
@zoltanz288
@zoltanz288 Месяц назад
every pro athlete is on something. nothing is clean.
@unclegreenskatesoda9570
@unclegreenskatesoda9570 5 месяцев назад
I love watching old 80s and 90s documentaries just for the vibes
@venomsnekko
@venomsnekko 5 месяцев назад
"We listen to our audience." - Vince "I pushed the guy my audience booed for years because I liked him" McMahon
@Slick_Rick859
@Slick_Rick859 4 месяца назад
This is when wrestling was really the thing to watch. Wrestlers was always making an appearances on top tv shows and talk shows. You would see bumper stickers and stickers on cars everywhere. It was crazy. Wrestling was the greatest back then.
@six6thdisciple
@six6thdisciple 5 месяцев назад
BRET HART SAYING HE IS THE “ROBERT DENIRO OF WRESTLING” IS TOUGH
@1983jcheat
@1983jcheat 5 месяцев назад
He saw things. 😂😂😂
@Gold.Circle.
@Gold.Circle. 5 месяцев назад
I disagree 100% on whataboutism when Vince is defending his company meanwhile other shows had worse on and the lack of testing for baseball and hockey at the same time. This was nothing more than a hatchet journalism job to hurt his business! YES WHAT ABOUT! its a valid argument if they go after WWF as an easy target!
@gameboiisav
@gameboiisav 5 месяцев назад
"Special delivery jones" is crazy 🤣🤣
@shadowwarrior7218
@shadowwarrior7218 5 месяцев назад
Great Job Man. Please, more of these vids of "Behind the Curtain" shenanigans.
@skyguy5587
@skyguy5587 5 месяцев назад
Today’s my 34th bday! Would be the jam to get a shoutout from our wrestling bio lord and savior
@WrestlingBios
@WrestlingBios 5 месяцев назад
Happy Birthday!
@enkiabzu5792
@enkiabzu5792 5 месяцев назад
Happy Birthday and Happy New year🎉🎉 I'll be turning 34 next month aswell Time flies!!
@Joecbg100
@Joecbg100 5 месяцев назад
Happy birthday bruh
@skyguy5587
@skyguy5587 5 месяцев назад
@@WrestlingBiosappreciate it!
@eddie9244
@eddie9244 5 месяцев назад
1998 was my favorite year for the attitude era i was in junior high and i was obsessed with sable 😂
@liveevil6386
@liveevil6386 5 месяцев назад
I don't know man, I'm from London and my friend got suspended for Stone Cold Stunnering the Chemistry teacher in a lesson
@ferox965
@ferox965 5 месяцев назад
I came up during the early and mid eighties. I was fine. The wrestling landscape definitely changed...they figured out that gearing towards teens got them the new audience.
@randomz4347
@randomz4347 5 месяцев назад
thanks for the great video hope you cover the WWF TLC vhs it was amazing when i first popped it into my vcr and finally got to see the great moments I wasn’t able to catch live
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 5 месяцев назад
I remember when this came out it was awesome seeing pro wrestling talked about
@Hughjundies69
@Hughjundies69 5 месяцев назад
You should cover that episode of Louis Theroux's weird weekends. Watching Louis awkwardly trying to strike up a conversation with Macho Man was hilarious 😆
@chrishollister80
@chrishollister80 5 месяцев назад
Hilarious how under Bret's name at the <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="818">13:38</a> mark it has him listed as "WCW Wrestler 1998-present" and "WWF Wrestler 1985-1997." As if Bret wanted ESPN to know once upon a time he was in a better place.
@BuddsHanzoSword
@BuddsHanzoSword 4 месяца назад
Oh he definitely is responsible for that.
@arrowdave646
@arrowdave646 5 месяцев назад
Then WWF and ESPN became buddies.
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 4 месяца назад
Like DLo predicted.
@timothymattson5369
@timothymattson5369 5 месяцев назад
Did RAW ever beat Monday Night Football in the ratings? To my knowledge, RAW never came close to the MNF numbers.
@joedee9811
@joedee9811 5 месяцев назад
Maybe segment by segment. I.E. from 9:15 pm to 9:28 pm Raw had more total viewers then MNF, but I doubt they were beating them handily every week. I was around and remember how big wrestling was and also remember people tossing out that nugget that wrestling was beating MnF and never thought twice about it, but it does seem unlikely.
@JPD2587
@JPD2587 5 месяцев назад
MNF definitely did see a big ratings decline. It’s why the Sunday night game has eclipsed the Monday nighter.
@PowerPackers90
@PowerPackers90 5 месяцев назад
​@@joedee9811Monday Night football average ratings in 1998 was 13.9. Raw and Nitro were averaging a little above 4 million.
@joypadlad
@joypadlad 5 месяцев назад
I believe the argument was not that they beat MNF, but that MNF's ratings were going down lower than they had been in the past because they were losing some viewers to WWF.
@richardtherichard26
@richardtherichard26 5 месяцев назад
Yea you’re right raw never beat mnf in the ratings, I believe the caveat that was used was that wwe “meant total ratings for the entire year.” As in more viewers tuned into raw that calendar year than mnf. Which should come as no surprise to anyone since the nfl doesn’t play any Monday night games from January through the 1st week of September…
@ryanvantassell1775
@ryanvantassell1775 5 месяцев назад
Crazy thing is at the end of the program, it says, "Courtesy: NFL Films, ABC News, NCAA Productions". Looks like Vince might have been right after all
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 5 месяцев назад
That is because they used videro footage from those entities. They have to credit them. to be able to use it
@mickmickymick6927
@mickmickymick6927 5 месяцев назад
It's preety conspiricist to say they only put the doco out to reduce WWF ratings. More likely they thought a sensational doco about a very popular business (pro wrestling) would get them some good ratings. The final piece was probably just the doco maker looking for some way to wrap it up - that is 'while it's popular, it won't stop'.
@AlexThorn
@AlexThorn 5 месяцев назад
I remember this like it was yesterday. I still have the VHS recording of it. We had it good. We had it good.
@pissuparope
@pissuparope 5 месяцев назад
I know it's weird but for some reason "Bret Hart is the Robert Deniro of pro wrestling" seems strangely accurate
@mikerohlfs2836
@mikerohlfs2836 5 месяцев назад
This is so hard to watch, you just want to grab these parents and say ITS YOUR FALT!!!!,but then you see they went back to PG, because it wasn't working anymore when the money train of Austin,and the Rock left.
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 5 месяцев назад
Wasn't it mainly because they went public?
@HawkHogan_
@HawkHogan_ 5 месяцев назад
​@@NoneofYabiz-rx3ziThat was in 99 iirc. They went PG in the summer of 2008
@firewalker1372
@firewalker1372 5 месяцев назад
I remember watching this when it came on tv and actually rooting for Vince in this. The king was right, all they were trying to do is talk down about the wrestling business because it was hurting football. Wonder what Corey Fear is up to now days 😂
@scottyanderson7651
@scottyanderson7651 5 месяцев назад
If another grown man wants to take steroid’s then that’s his business it shouldn’t be against the law.
@gamesthatiplay9083
@gamesthatiplay9083 5 месяцев назад
LOL imagine being that broadcaster having to say Kevin Nash is "Big Sexy."
@zackevans8986
@zackevans8986 5 месяцев назад
Thank for tackling this! Jeremy Scapp, who was interviewing Bischoff, is an amazing journalist. You gotta cover the bill Costas vs McMahon inter view too!
@ryantaylor4104
@ryantaylor4104 5 месяцев назад
Goldberg just never understood, man.
@zachsmith1634
@zachsmith1634 5 месяцев назад
Hahaha my brother always sat super close to the tv like that and wondered why he needed to eventually get glasses 🤣
@jermboy47
@jermboy47 5 месяцев назад
Thats bs
@CoreyT127
@CoreyT127 5 месяцев назад
Everybody has that one kid in their family who did that.
@calvincooper9154
@calvincooper9154 5 месяцев назад
My mom never took wrestling serious she just would say it’s childish entertainment don’t do any of it. Plus I’m old enough to recall. The news doing a hit piece on the power rangers
@NukaLuLu
@NukaLuLu 5 месяцев назад
Loved this video. Great job and good spacing on the commentary. Looking forward to more of these longer ones. Also happy new year!
@dalesanteford7432
@dalesanteford7432 5 месяцев назад
This is exactly what takes me back when I was growing up I got in trouble for saying Hell Yeah and wearing a Austin t-shirt and when I was in 8th grade people want to blame wrestling they want to blame heavy metal music at that time they wanted to go after video games inside the children's fault it's not whoever it's people going into it not realizing it's not real and having the illusion of it watching a movie or TV show you get caught up carried away and don't realize what you're doing at the time here we are into New Year and I'm defending wrestling I could say the same thing about video games and comic books people been going after that for a very long time
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 5 месяцев назад
I remember how they tried to cancel wwf and mortal Kombat
@dalesanteford7432
@dalesanteford7432 5 месяцев назад
You have a big group who's really into pro wrestling and Mortal Kombat you're not going to cancel that especially in the late 90s . Now looks that were into the late 2000s and Mortal Kombat is just as popular and so is pro wrestling you're not going to change anything by telling people to stop watching it or not make it as violent people are going to go out their way to watch it and have and be happy doing it
@EAESPN
@EAESPN 5 месяцев назад
haha I use to knew a few people what were told to flip there "hell yeah" shirt inside out and yes it was in 8th grade too lol
@dalesanteford7432
@dalesanteford7432 5 месяцев назад
How to turn in side out my Austin 3:16 or hell yeah t-shirt same with my Metallica t-shirts that have anything like with the skull or spikes on it I had to do the same thing with my Svengoolie t-shirt
@EAESPN
@EAESPN 5 месяцев назад
@@dalesanteford7432 that school must have really sucked mine was more just about profanity and gore if anything band shirts with skull and what not were common place along with the wanna be goths with spiked bracelets and chain wallets they were all fine
@fabricatedego
@fabricatedego 5 месяцев назад
I loved wwe in 98 and was a senior in high school and had no clue people were getting suspended at least at my school. In 99 I was out of school and it's just silly seeing this hit piece
@SSJ491
@SSJ491 5 месяцев назад
I watched WCW in 1998 through 1999, and WWF/E in 1999 as a kid through the present day as an adult. It was awesome back then, and I glad that I grew up watching that era from my childhood years in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
@D3lirium-ik7dg
@D3lirium-ik7dg 5 месяцев назад
​@@SSJ491Best wrestling era ever
@Machete87
@Machete87 5 месяцев назад
there was no WWE back then and thats y it was so awesome
@eduardocamachojr7990
@eduardocamachojr7990 5 месяцев назад
You mean the WWF
@wes426
@wes426 5 месяцев назад
Seen this on RU-vid last night and taught I'd love Wrestling Bios to do a review of ut, sure enough Happy New Year right here 🎉❤
@PoeticProphetic
@PoeticProphetic 5 месяцев назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2555">42:35</a> Eric Bischoff’s mind: SCOTT STEINER SCOTT STEINER SCOTT STEINER
@denniswilliams6519
@denniswilliams6519 5 месяцев назад
I mean to be fair WCW and WWF were the two largest promotions. ECW didn't even have a TV deal yet at this point so I think it was more the average non-wrestling fan just believed it was only a 2 man game rather than it being a ratings deliberate omission.
@Maverick33
@Maverick33 5 месяцев назад
ECW did have tv deals with multiple stations across the country. Look up ECW Hardcore TV
@NoMoreBsPlease
@NoMoreBsPlease 5 месяцев назад
"A very physical male Soap Opera." What a way to describe pro wrestling 😂
@boblangford5514
@boblangford5514 5 месяцев назад
My mom used to hate it when I watched wrestling, but she loved “The Days of Our Lives.” My dad told her that wrestling was my soap opera, but she just didn’t understand. She was convinced if I watched it too much, I’d turn into a serial killer or something. Parents were ridiculous in the 80s and 90s when it came to stuff they didn’t understand.
@anonymousnobody326
@anonymousnobody326 5 месяцев назад
So good to just watch a nice, fun Wrestling Bios video instead of being subjected to all the Twitter drama of the modern wrestling community and all those so-called “journalists” stirring it up for clicks. 💁🏼‍♂️
@DEUltra82
@DEUltra82 5 месяцев назад
Bro, the way they entered the conversation about steroids and vinces comment about a syringe seems like it could've been edited to make it look like that was his full answer about wwf's testing. And chris was absolutely right to ask why steroids should matter. It's the same as any other sport. People come to see larger than life figures doing larger than life things.
@magdabrownis265
@magdabrownis265 5 месяцев назад
My friend’s parents walked in on us with each other in leg locks screaming at the tops of our lungs while torquing on the others leg. We wrestled all the time in the late 90s. We made full sized wrestling dummies out of clothes and duct tape to beat in too. I remember trying to do hurricanranas from ladders with the dummies. I once dropped my buddy from a barn loft onto a wood chipper. In my defense it wasn’t running
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion 5 месяцев назад
I’m sure it wasn’t running. That sounds exactly like what someone who dropped their “friend” into a running wood chipper would say.
@DopeyDetector
@DopeyDetector 5 месяцев назад
Sounds like you grew up to be a great success
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