The Eternal Combat of Zoroaster 

Yes I agree and I hate that the original rituals and details are hidden from all of us. What I don’t understand though is if it was so spread out. Then why is it today not allowed to convert to Zoroastrian and one must already be part of the religion? Ofcourse I assume it’s because the powers that be do not want the masses to convert.

Its stupid 😂, its so obscure you can project anything into it. Little is known about it, but yet everything origina...😂...silly

@@_S0urR0ses_ yea it's all a matter of control.. same reason they say u can't convert to Judaism. But that doesn't mean anything . U can belive what u want. There isn't a human out there to tell u otherwise

@@ahmedmahmud4238 stupid? So things that are obviously written by people who stole from it isn't? U must love being told what to do by other sheep

He influence our world, even Platon who is a base of western philosophy said that he was à disciple of zarathoushtra

Whoa! Interesting

I think your opinion doesn’t matter

@@mmc5261 correct, I'm just an average bookworm not expecting anyone to read my comment all the way

Mithraism is connected to it, especially with the Romans, but this is focused primarily on the Zoroastrian account of Cosmology. Mithra, in the Ancient Persian sense, would have been an older deity from the same region around the time this cosmology came to be.

@@americanesoteric Do you read Dr Jason Jorjani by chance? I believe you would like his work.

@@22ROM I have not! I will look into it. 🤝🏽

Essentially the same

Not sure there. Angra Mainyu’s name appears in the Gathas (only one time grant you), and there is reference to the deceiver and a reference to the evil one of the two spirits as well.

@@americanesoteric Angra Mainyu attached as one word is not cited in the Gathas. There is no personification of evil such as Satan or Ahriman. Yasna 30 is all about the choice of good or evil considering the end result. There is no Satan or Ahriman in Zarathushtra's mindset, but he speaks of good and evil. By the same token in the Achaemenid inscriptions. as much as faith in Ahura Mazda is noted, the issue of Devil is absent.

Angra Mainyu (ahriman) is the counterpart to spenta Mainyu . Mazda created them both. Asha is to be realized by the ballance between these two.

@@giuseppe1430 There are two Mainyu (impetus, inclination) from the beginning, born in the mind and dream. One is for better the other not so (for the worse,) The wise shall choose the better that is righteousness, constructive, and generates life (constructive living). The unwise chooses the wrong one, resorts to the lies and wrath, and generates un-life (alive but not-living) and ruins the living world. The reward of good choice is spiritual relief (Heaven) and the retribution for choosing wrong is inner torment (Hell), both discerned in conscience.

Here are two things from something I wrote as well as a quote from an article by someone else at the end. "Spenta Mainyu (Spenta: Holy/Creative/Bounteous/Furthering) (Mainyu: Spirit/Mentality). Is the highest emanation or spirit of Ahura Mazda who is the fashioner of the universe and guardian of all including humans who he is especially associated with but also closely associated with Geush Tashan(Gathic Avestan)/Gosh(Middle Persian) the ahura/yazata/god craftsman and fashioner of life and Geush Urvan the soul or spirit of animal life in the Gathas. Drvaspa is another ahura/yazata who is associated with Geush Tashan & Geush Urvan in the Siroza and Yasht 9 as a guardian of animal life as is Mah/Maongha the yazata/ahura of the moon in Yasht 7. Spenta Mainyu is comparable to the Rigvedic deities Tvashtr, Vishvakarma and Prajapati in basic function as the creative craftsman and protective fashioner of the forms and all living beings including deities and man in the Rig-Veda. Has been compared as a rough equivalent to the Holy Spirit within Judaism & Christianity." "Ahriman is the Middle Persian equivalent for Angra Mainyu. Angra Mainyu is from the older Gathic Avestan language of the Gathas where it means destructive/hostile spirit/mentality. Other names include Akem Mainyu(evil spirit/mentality), Debaoma(arch-deluder or deceiver), Dush-Sastish(false teacher), Aka Manah(evil mind and the opposite of Vohu Manah/loving mind), and Druj which means injurious falsehood, the opposite of Asha(truth/goodness/art), and the essence of evil in the wickedest, deepest, and un-holiest sense. Druj is cognate to Vedic Sanskrit Druh, which means injuring, injurer, hurtful, hostile, fiend, and afflicting demon. Druh is the opposite of Rta which is the Vedic Sanskrit cognate of Asha. The Mainyu who became evil or hostile and constricted(Aka/Akem Mainyu and Angra Mainyu) through his choices, as the twin spirit to Spenta Mainyu, may have originally been meant to be his hamkar(co-worker) as the fashioner of form for the world and universe in a role similar to what is described of Spenta Mainyu and Geush Tarshan in the Gathas but would choose Druj(injurious falsehood) and not harmonize with Asha (truth/goodness/art) for the creation of the universe causing imbalance and harm in its furthering rather than being a complementary force. In the later Greater Bundhahishn Ahura Mazda asks Angra Mainyu to stop his hostility and to join him in aiding life but refuses. Man or humans with their creativity may be associated with, and guarded by, Spenta Mainyu and also meant to be the hamkars(co-workers) of Ahura Mazda in creation for this reason. In the Gathas Zarathushtra says this conflict, which was before life and the world, was renowned and already heard of(Insler 1975, Boyce 1984, Humbach 1994/2010). It is somewhat similar to some versions of what scholars call "Earth Diver" myths or the myths where two entities would work together to form the world but one would either fail or actively go against the other being who is described as both efficient and more well meaning as well as wise. Sometimes there is a high god or goddess above them and other times not. Similar stories appear among related Indo-European groups such as the Slavs, Balts, Romanians and Indo-Aryan Romani. Also among Uralic groups such as the Sami(twin myth), Finnish, Estonians and Hungarians. Ancient Uralic groups had mutual influence with early Indo-Iranians. Similar myths are also among the Tibetans, Mongolians, Buryats, eastern Turks, eastern Siberian groups and the Ainu of Japan. Even among Native American tribes such as the Ojibwe/Chippewa, Abenaki and Wyandot/Huron of the Iroquois within America and Canada, the Quechan/Yuma and Kumwyaay/Diegueno within South-West America and Mexico, and the Guarani of South America. General similarities are also noticeable in New Zealand among the Maori, the aboriginal peoples of Australia, the Philippines and even Africa. The evil spirit is regarded in the Poetic Gathas as the distorter and destroyer of perception, spiritual vision, creativity, artfulness, and inspired music and sounds, the perverter and marrer of the life force in beings and nature that brings disharmony, disparity, malformation, decay, and death, and the teacher and master of falsehood, aggressiveness, deceptive mind formulas and mantras, delusions, and Acishtahya Manah(House of Worst Mind/Hell). Ahriman is also called Daevanam Daeva(daeva of daevas), which means evil god of evil gods or demon of demons. Has been compared as a rough equivalent to Satan within Judaism & Christianity and Iblis in Islam. Corresponds to Kali(not to be confused with the goddess; from a root kad "suffer, grieve, hurt; confound, confuse") of Kali Yuga in Hinduism, Kroni in Ayyavazhi Hinduism, and Devaputra(son of a deva) Mara in Buddhism." "Zoroaster's teachings are often called dualist, explaining the universe as the result of "the outcome of two eternally opposed and coexisting principles". However, Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu, or Ahriman, are not co-equal; the latter is an emanation or spirit of the former whose exercise of free will led him to embrace evil. This could be the source of the Christian conception of Satan as a fallen angel. Angra Mainyu is twin to Spenta Mainyu, the spirit of good that strengthens creation and aids humanity in their fight against evil." -Zoroaster article on New World Encyclopedia

Spoken like Ahriman himself 👹. We are all the children of Ahura Mazda and it is wrong and evil to put the Indo-Europeans above everyone else. Remember child… “Good thoughts, Good words, Good deeds. Racial superiority is an evil lie of Ahriman.

Spoken like Ahriman himself 👹. The Indo-Europeans are not above anyone else and we are ALL the children of Ahura Mazda. Racial superiority is an evil lie of Ahriman. Remember child… “Good thoughts, Good words, Good deeds”.

His “plane” comes from the ancient Sumerians. Zoroaster was a liar and made this religion up

@jenathent4840 Really! I didn't know! Where I could learn more about his lies?

@@jenathent4840 Every religion is made up

Same god. Different names.

Finally mentions Zurvan, and compared them with Kronos 🤦‍♂️

@@joshuavalente3893he’s just reading the Wikipedia page lol this is why I talk to real Persians as it’s a complicated religion