The Evolution of Engineer [TF2] 

@@octomal2523 tru

Spy's video had a similar relationship with DR.

Wrangler is Engineer's Dead ringer

Backstabbing or sniping him

why does nobody realize wrangler is perfectly balanced😢

Uncle daaaaaaaaaane

Uncle dane is here

Uncle Dane the Engie Main

unban me from inceltopia

​@@bjornlindgren1774by the tone you called uncletopia, it's not hard to deduce why you were banned.

Ooh, someone should do that.

sounds like a shounic video

Sounds like an x10 server

Pure chaos

*Scout:* Baby Sandman's Guillotine (too fast to track, throws baseball stuns everywhere) *Heavy:* Tommy Gruvich (sprints to front lines with instant suppressive fire) *Spy:* Dr. Enforcicle (immune to Pyros, strong revolver play, impossible to properly kill) *Pyro:* max switch speed Degreaser, Reserve Shooter that works with airblast, and pre-nerf Axtinguisher *Engineer:* Great Wall of Sentry / Frontier's Gunslinger + Short Circuit spam

If info on tf2 is casual games, then he is 2 stock heavys

Fr, dude these videos have become my new favorite long term series. I love these.

hard carrying the TF2 community is like dead lifting the entire fucking gym. he's one of the many people doing it out of spite to the owners not liking shop lifting.

Nothing against listerr, but he’s not the ONLY one carrying the community.

Welcome to meta commentary videos

I never played during that time but I do get what you mean, a defense so hard to break not even giant robots in MvM can bust it would be awful

I still remember engies boosting to the top of the pillars in Mario Kart and just spawn camping indefinitely thanks to zero falloff.

Still is a nightmare to deal with if the engineers team has a brain to shoot the 2-3 demos spamming his sentry.

I get your point but the way you phrased it "3 engineers could lock down an area better than 1 sniper" is kinda funny. I mean it's 3 compared to 1.

A bloody australian christmas mornin'

Gives the same feeling as getting an australium drop

tbh I could probably get a engineer drop by the time hes done

Apples

@@askamikaze3936 Apples

Also I knew perfectly well that Engie would be next after I saw that community post

It made Engie actually viable and good in fast paced and clogged gamemodes such King of the Hill and the carts race (reson of why Is banned in many hightower servers)

@@nicolasturetta7959 That too

@@nicolasturetta7959engineer is banned in hightower cause trolldiers take their goofy meme subclass ludcriously serious.

@@Skullhawk13Or because getting swatted out of the air before being able to actually play and have fun with their subclass wasn’t very fun

The Wrangler and The Protector maybe? and how about The Protector reduces sentry damage to 0 while active, while keeping the knockback and shield, like with the jumper weapons?

No, the shield is just really really broken. Even if the Wrangler didn’t do any damage it would still be powerful, just keeping your sentry alive for a little while is very useful. Axe the shield from the game.

I think this man just solved tf2

@@tfx9223 I do recall hearing at least one TF2 RU-vidr saying that the Wrangler could literally just be the shield and it would, at the least, still be good. But I haven't seen anyone really put that to the test (say, someone like Shounic who has run various experiments related to game balance). Yes, moments like the Sigafoo save only need the shield, but I'd have to be convinced that losing literally everything else the weapon does (shooting targets outside of the sentry's normal range, sentry jumping, getting the DPS boost, etc) would still leave it overpowered (or even good).

personally i'm in the camp of just lowering the resistance to 33%. enough to survive one extra pill or rocket and not much more. that way you can have actual time to react to a long range direct hit soldier without him deleting your sentry before you have the chance to properly deter him with the manual control. alternatively, if we're removing the shield entirely i think it needs to be stronger offensively to compensate, maybe bring back the old lack of falloff since it was never game breaking, and likely would be fine with the complete lack of shield. and regardless of what other changes it could receive, give it 80% self damage reduction from sentries when active so engineers can jump more freely another idea was keeping the shield as is, but making you *really* commit to pulling out the wrangler. the 3 seconds of idle time after putting it away would now prevent you from pulling out the wrangler again, repairing the sentry (this also applies while the wrangler is active), and no longer have the shield remain active. when you put it away, you do not get to just take it back out immediately. you have to take a lot of time to recover, time the enemy team may not give you. this would make any damage the enemy team deals to a wrangled sentry actually last long enough to be taken advantage of, while preventing other engineers from just tanking it for you while you hold the wrangler out indefinitely and causing the same exact issue as presently

What's your most played class ?

If it makes you feel better, it was released December 2012 in Mecha Engine. It was basically 2013

The KGB is not the most inflentual/needed unlocks for heavy, the Sandvich was.

I think he means needing reworks or direct changes. Because those two didn’t really get any They’ve been the same for ages

@@GoldDragon20KGB got several indirect changes though. Weapon speed change buff and faster rev meant it was actually possible to switch to your minigun and get good value. Prior you’d get only one kill tops doing that

Do not help

Frontier justice

Addendum video 10 seconds long: "WRANGLER LOST IT'S SHIELD!" *Confetti sprays everywhere*

And the Southern Hospitality means they hate spies.

I thought that timestap was for when he said "f*ck". Anyway, I agree.

As a long time medic main:The medic update gave us the ubersaw which was the long time favorite and never truly dethroned, The release blutsager had no random crits as the initial downside but medics self healing was by default lower. Medic has gone up in power overtime by generally making him a better support with faster self healing from a variety of sources, and the crossbow’s sheer utility wasn’t Even good at first. It was actually bad until they gave it passive reloading, and only became uncontested MVP when it gave Uber. The Amputator used to be a straight upgrade to the bonesaw as it only had the taunt as a bonus, as was the solmen vow, but Amputator only saw use cuz a set bonus with crossbow. Nowadays all of medics non stock options have serious considerations except vita-saw, but the core meta of crossbow+Saw+which medigun fits here was established fairly early, already in place before meet your match. Medic is the only class to not really get hit by any devastating nerfs. Most changes were positive. Medic is an intentionally overpowered character kept in check by diminishing returns and limited offensive potential. To this day Medic has no increased damage options besides Kritzkrig. Every unlock lowers their durability or attack in some fashion so medic will never be a good duelist.

@@Skullhawk13 thats pretty interesting, cool man, thanks

fr man, I’m getting tired of seeing low quality and frankly annoying videos reach millions of views.

What exactly is your topic?

Having played the base version of TF2, it was very different in terms of pacing back then where the game was better designed around something like a stationary engie. The only maps in base were 2Fort, Dustbowl, Hydro, Gravel Pit, Granary, and 5CP Well. Of those, 2Fort, Dustbowl, and Well are chokepoint fiestas, and Hydro rounds never featured that expansive of a playing field. Payload maps werent a thing for the first 9 months of the game. Damage, mobility, trickery, and player skill were all generally lower back then. There simply wasnt as much need to move your buildings back then.

Nah. You’d need at least one Natascha for that to be truly scout’s hell.

Roblox tf2 is better

@@AverageRobloxian420 both games are good

Well balanced but boring

@@jonkamberaj sometimes thats just how it is on defense anyways

R34 is technically a part of the community

@@orlandodanielgonzalezalcar3360if you find me a 2 hour porn video with the quality of this, I’ll be set for life.

lazypurple maybe

@@orlandodanielgonzalezalcar3360 lil bro what

try TF2 classic

@@listertf2 Already did, didn't like it. I would rather purchase a server for live tf2 and ban most weapons with a plugin.

@@damsen978 fair enough. ive always wanted a 2007-mode where theres only stock weapons (and future buffs like moving buildings and airblast)

@@listertf2 TFTrue plugin can do that for you if you rent for a server. Give it a try if you got the money and know how to configure it. I would actually join.

u are stupid, the wrangler doesnt need nerfs