The Evolution of Heroes - Marvel Champions 

That's super interesting, I'll try and look that up when I have more time. Sounds like a great comparison!

I was going to say the same thing. My Magick deck is Ilyana the Grey, and happens to be all basics.

So you're saying you'd like to see the evolution of a video about evolution...? 😁

@@VillainTheory Followed by a discussion of the evolution of the video that evolved from a previous video about evolution....

The evolution of Iron Man is already on my list! Should be fun!

I'm curious to see where they go next with form changing heroes, I think there's a lot of potential outside the Wasp/Ant-Man blueprint that I think they can move away from

Good to know!

The villains will be really interesting to compare! It's really interesting to look at the multi villain scenarios especially, maybe I'll cover them some time

Thanks!

Thanks! Interesting thoughts on Domino and Magik. Will share mine in a video soon!

@@VillainTheory Looking forward to watching that one! One thing to add on Domino vs Magik… it’s not just Domino’s upgrades/supports, it’s the sheer volume of elements in her game competing for your attention - top card of deck, face down cards (Painted Lady), support effects (most of which require being in alter-ego, so not something you habitually use every turn), cards in hand, allies that trigger off the top card, etc. I’m sure if you play Domino enough all this becomes quite intuitive. But for someone like me (who plays MC about 3/4 times a week - and therefore Domino much less frequently than that), that’s a lot of singular options for you to process in a single turn. For Magik I’m largely looking at just top card of deck, Limbo, the key upgrade(s) that are relevant to my plan for the turn (e.g. Soulsword if attacking) and the cards in my hand. There are far fewer elements competing for my attention. However, the interaction between those elements and the order you play them in opens up all kinds interesting decisions and options - it feels like you’re getting the complexity of Domino without feeling like you’ve constantly missed something (which diminishes the fun). In my mind, with Magik the designers have done a great job in mastering the art of making the complicated simple, without compromising on the depth of decision-making.

Maybe... Maybe Vision is the best hero???

I'm alright! I'll probably do a channel update video soon and talk more about it all

Thanks for the feedback!

@@VillainTheory of course!

You're welcome! I could have mentioned Doctor Strange, perhaps in the next one!

The evolution of villains would be a great topic as well!

Thanks so much! As for Rogue Justice, I really enjoy the classic One Way or Another + Clear the Area + Turn the Tide combo in solo - you can use Superpower Adaptation on Justice allies to grab whichever of them you don't have in hand already to combo them ultra-reliably. She also annihilates player side schemes, so Specialized Training and Build Support are a must! For 3-4 player, nothing fancy but again you can use Superpower Adaptation to grab Even the Odds on repeat which is pretty silly. Or there's Mission Training + Game Time for her! Superpower Adaptation can grab Game Time off the many basic allies X-Men have (now with Triage and Legion) for crazy-good thwarting. I guess I just like how Justice interacts with Superpower Adaptation!

Thanks! There's only really one hero who I feel is obsolete in this game and even that's debatable. Great feedback by the way! I only started to figure out transitions and everything recently haha. Good to know it's noticed!

@@VillainTheory Just curious, which hero do you think is obsolete? Is it She-Hulk (or Hulk)?

@@waltercardcollector It's poor old Hulk. I talk about it briefly in the Shadow of the Cast episode that D20 guests on. To comment on the other hero you mentioned, I actually really like She-Hulk nowadays!

@@VillainTheory Oh wow, nice!

Unfortunately I haven't played much Lord of the Rings but I'd love to watch that video if someone else made it haha!

Cheers!

@@VillainTheory I wonder if you could consider Venom as an evolution of captain america. His play is focused on an item (well, three), can play any aspect, can ready, can generate resources, true that Venom doesn't really help gettin allies but I feel his big gun is as if you would always have a basic ally in the field... Anyway, just a thought

That's a pretty interesting topic in itself - what's missing from heroes? I wonder if we'll maybe get an Avengers leader type in the future.

That makes sense and she is fun. I always enjoy playing Captain Marvel! I just tend to pick most other heroes before her personally.

Nice! I love thinking about this stuff too. The villain thing is a great angle, I'd love to do a video for them one day if all goes well.

I do like how they've tied mechanics across certain things like the phasing characters ignoring crisis as you say. It's fun! And I agree, I think Shadowcat is the most-different of all the form-changing heroes, very unique in how her gameplan is driven by them.

Definitely planning to talk about those heroes at some point!

Interesting! Mystics are pretty crazy

those are my thoughts. Phoenix -> Psylocke as well in some ways. Spiderman -> Venom -> Miles Morales Black Widow -> Nebula

@@j_atkinson I would say Peter Parker -> Ghost Spider Hawkeye -> Miles Morales Captain America -> Rogue Now Psylocke, she Feels like a She Hulk hot fix. I know this one is a weird take, but if I would like to make She Hulk easier to play in solo, I would give her access to confuse to go alter ego easily, start the game with her two resource generator in play to make up for 4 hand sizer, and a way to turn her attack stat into her thwart stat. Yeah, that is Psylocke lol.

Love all these! I have some of them written down already for a potential second episode. I do think X-23's origins lie with Quicksilver with some inspiration from Wolverine. And I think Phoenix to Psylocke and Black Widow to Nebula are clear evolutions as well. Ghost-Spider seems like a hybrid of both Peter Parker and actually Quicksilver in my opinion!

@@VillainTheory Nice, I'll be looking forward to the 'Next Evolution' video ;) ey? ey?

Agreed, I don't think it needs an ability. It was just notable that its more reminiscent of early Marvel Champions resources!

Will do!

Great topic. I definitely think heroes generally have a stronger identity and gameplan built into them nowadays

"Fun creep" is a fun term, love it haha