No. The issue was that they went RIGHT OFF their brand. They started getting “young kids in.” This is a franchise that is about the OLD GUYS (maybe even OLD GIRLS). This franchise should have only lasted 3-4 movies.
Expendables 3 was the weakest of the trilogy. As much as I love Mel Gibson, I didn't really buy him as a villain. They also spent way too much time focusing on the younger characters, which wouldn't have been that much of an issue if said characters were likable.
@@laverdadescatolica5 Yeah, which ties into making the third movie PG-13. They didn’t understand their audience even though their audience was right in front of them stating the obvious.
Iko Uwais was wasted in this film. Literally an actual action hero who had to be nerfed because Statham has a “I can’t be punched” clause in his contract to massage his ego. Action stars are pointless these days haha.
Megan Fox ruined that movie (every time she appeared it filled me with cringe knowing what she's done in real life to her 3 sons, putting them in dresses and stuff). 🥺The movie would have been 10x better if Gina Carrano played that part.
Why is that Expendables movie finally gonna come out after all? I've been hearing for a long time about a potential 4thone I'm all for it. 80s babies. LETS GO👍
They could’ve brought in Nicolas Cage, Danny Trejo, Pierce Brosnan, Antonio Banderas, Samuel L. Jackson, Linda Hamilton, Jackie Chan, Robert Patrick, Kurt Russell, LL Cool J, Liam Neeson, Donnie Yen, Milla Jovovich, Mark Wahlberg or so many other actual action stars
@@SilentMerc331 Never in a million years would Tom Cruise agree to be in an Expandables movie. That's below his own standard. But you could get Al Pacino. He was in an Adam Sandler movie … And Nicholas Cage still has to pay back his debts from the 2008 financial crisis. He'd definitely take part. I'm actually surprised he wasn't asked by now.
Brosnan had agreed to be in a proposed Expendables film back in 2015 but that fell through. Jackie Chan said he'd rather do a film with just him and Stallone. Banderas was in 3 and clearly was meant to be in 4 [as one of the characters is his son]. I'm surprised Liam Neeson never appeared in one of these given he's still churning out action films.
Seriously this movie has both Iko Uwais and Tony Jaa in it, 2 AMAZING martial arts legends, and its considered as one of the worst films of the year. That is just so sad..........
Kinda shame how it all went downwards after the second movie. Both Jaa and Uwais could have made this epic again but the script and other cast destroyed the potential big time...
Honestly I think he's just networking in Hollywood making connections and such. Because other than that, I can't see why he would be in a project like this.
Expendables 2 is the only one I rewatch and feels like a completel package. Best cast, best action, best fanservice. Everything else always felt like something was missing.
Agree. Also I have to say the 2nd movie has pretty good cinematography. It feels like they actually cared about making it. Also Van Damme is pretty cool as the villain
2 really is the only one that feels like it lives up to the premise: Just seeing the old heads get together and just do their thing, and not take themselves seriously. The first one definitely took itself too seriously. The 3rd one essentially went against their own premise by focusing on a younger cast (none of whom were really action stars). This 4th one just felt aimless. With the exception of Jet Li's glorified cameo, everyone had legit time to shine, and we got a wicked scene of seeing Sly, Arnold AND Willis just share the screen as the action stars they are.
Ideally, that should be a self-aware joke, like Spinal Tap naming a song "Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight". But that's giving EXPEND4BLES more credit than it deserves.
It's actually quite a solid tag, but it's a shit show when you don't know what you want and what tone you're going for, can't have serious yet a parody my guy, they fucked up royally by sliding into parody with #2
My mom was watching Expendables 2 the other night; I asked if she was getting ready for the new one. She said: there's a new one!? Lmao the fan base for this franchise is pretty specific and easy to please 😊
I'm so glad Korey bought up that "kidnapping/murder" reveal, because when that happened, I was like "Hey uh, what the fuck". And then they laugh and joke about killing a guy who barely inconvenienced them.
It's messed up that Terry Crews wasn't in the film because of the sexual assault thing that happened to him, and the producers didn't want him back because of it. It's not like he's going to randomly mention it on set or bring it up alot.
He didn't want the big suits s.a. him anymore, so they said he can't be part of their Hollywood bs anymore. He's the only one in the cast that's against it.
Theres a double standard when it comes to a man complaining about sexual abuse. Now if a woman experienced that, she would've gotten paid and more movie roles
@AaronHernandez1 Part 2 was the only one I bothered purchasing. The first was "ok" I don't need to ever see it again, and 3 was trash. After this DT review I definitely won't bother even seeing part 4.
23:56 reminds me of Machete when Danny Trejo uses the ramp and shoots his guns attached to his motorcycle and back then, they made that as a parody to scenes like this 😂😂😂
My favorite cameo is the ship from Winter Soldier. Imagine if halfway through the movie a predator shows up or any of them would've made them more interesting and live up to the name.
The best thing was SPOILERS: Stallone loses his ring to a little person in a thumb war, comes back and beats his ass to get it back, STEALS HIM, throws him in the pilot seat of a downed plane to die on impact and burn, and used his burnt corpse with his ring back on it to fake his own death after scaring and depressing all his friends thinking he's dead for days. Bro that's our hero lol
That's so crazy 🤣🤣🤣 I actually didn't hate this movie. If it was made for 5-10 mil I'd actually say it was a success. But 10 Mil, where tf is that money?? Not on the screen ! That's for sure
The only way the 100 million dollar budget makes sense is if stallone got 40 Million for his 10 mins of screentime, Statham got 25 Million, the rest of the expendables got 20 million, and the remaining 15 mil went to making the movie
The fact that John wick chapter 4 has the same budget manage to show their production value perfectly with all the action, cinematography and location.
Escape Plan is looking pretty damn good after this. If you havent seen Cliffhanger definitely check that out instead because more Stallone movies needed snowboarding stoner Rosencrantz and Gildenstern characters.
Earlier this year, I had no doubt that Transformers: Rise of the Beasts, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, and The Flash would make millions of dollars at the box office based on the popularity of the established property. However, when I noticed that these movies failed it inspired me to make a film documentary about how as of September, 2023, audiences are not paying anymore money at the box office to sequels to a franchise that’s played out. Expendables 4 also counts. Audiences want to watch movies that are authentic and genuine. That’s where movies like Elemental, The Blackening, and No Hard Feelings succeeded in their victories at the box office.
I wouldn't really consider Elemental much of a success story. It had a hell of a comeback, but it barely broke even in the box office in this theatrical run in the end. And the story is fine, but very safe in certain areas (it should have learned more on the immigrant angle).
I actually liked the new transformer movie. The others were enjoyable but this movie was ridiculous. They literally pulled this movie out of the depths of hell to make a quick profit.
Barbie & Oppenheimer probably would've been the better examples to use. Niether Elemental nor No Hard Feelings made a big profit & The Blackening didnt really hit big either. Sequels aren't an issue as plenty of them succeeded (John Wick 4, Creed 3, GOTG 3, Spiderverse 2, Nun 2) it really comes down to audience interest in your brand & keeping the budgets down. That's where movies like Flash, Indiana Jones, Transformers & Mission Impossible failed.
The codename for the villain is: Ocelot, and I'll be damned they were really made Garcia dressed up similar like Revolver Ocelot from Metal Gear Solid 3😂
I had the same exact reaction when they revealed the last bit, straight up murderers. To be fair Statham ran out of bullets when he confronted Garcia but who cares lol
Between this, the recent Indiana Jones movie, and whatever action film Liam Nesson is in (that's still trying to capitalize on Taken's success), I guess the audience is getting tired of action movies starring actors in their 70's and 80's.
Don't forget Denzel with the Equalizer. Even though it preformed well it's cringe watching Denzel still doing action movie movies beating up rooms of trained thugs half his age.
This movie might win the prize of “the movie that absolutely nobody on the planet asked for or wanted but here it is and it’s gonna lose a lot of money!”
What do you mean? I think any fan of old school action ACTUALLY really likes these movies. You silly millennials are used to Chris Hemworth and The Rick action type of movies. 🤦 I hope they DO make the Expendables 4. Like they said they were. I hope they actually use Segal and make him Worthy. Even though he is a joke in real life. He had his moments And even if he ain't in it I'd still like for them to make a fourth one. If it's good we can end up seeing more Keeping my fingers crossed,Y'all 🙏
Although I had no interest in watching this, I feel they should've included JeeJa Yanin in this. The female Tony Jaa. She deserves way more work. Expendables 2 is the best out of this series.
I saw it on friday because i was bored after work and didn't want to go home yet. I should've went home. I agree with most of what Corey said. Omg what a mess.
3 positives for Expendables 4 I could say for me were Jason Statham killing henchman on the boat was dope, Tony Jaa & Statham teaming up was dope (wish it was longer) & Statham vs Iko Uwais final fight was pretty good (wished it was longer) other than that meh lol.
There was a scene when Statham was in a suit looking like the Transporter again, he was doing security Made me miss and want one more ride with Frank Martin kicking butt
Funny thing Jason Statham has a Stuntman background & was shitting on the MCU for years saying all the Lead Actors are not Action Stars & only act behind Green Screen when in turn his last 5 movies like this & The Megs have been Green Screen heavy hot messes😂😭
They’ve ran out of action stars. Will Smith messed it up for them to use him. Tony Jaa and the Ong Bakk guy was POINTLESS and it was basically a Jason Statham flick!!! 🤦🏿♂️
if hollyweird was smart, they should’ve kept statham but do a passing of the torch & use action stars from 00-2010. that could’ve been a logical move since the original had action stars from the 80’s & 90’s statham could’ve taken over for sly & life goes on.hollyweird doesn’t know when to move on from a idea.
Man Hollywood is wasting my man Iko Uwais in these generic ass action movies, First Mile 22, then Snake Eyes, now this shit. And when I think of modern action stars, I always thought of Megan Fox and 50 Cent 😆.
I had a feeling this movie wouldn’t be very good. If you’re looking for a fun, over the top action movie that’s well made I highly recommend Bollywood movies. Specifically Pathaan and Jawan which both came out this year 😊
That’s Factz but let’s be fair some of there stuff cringe also but they found a way to perfect it like sniping someone with a cell phone and etc but I love Bollywood films
I'd say something clever about about this movie and how bad it is but I'm not going to put the effort in because clearly no effort was put into this film or films like this, I just mainly feel sad more than anything because the nose dive for the actors integrity going this low for a Paycheck and for people who actually went to theatres and paid for this crap
Stallone is the only guy his age that’s still believable. It’s just unfortunate he’s had so many injuries and surgeries since making the first Expendables. Expendables 4 really wasn’t that bad either. Not amazing, but not terrible.
I was right there laughing along with you about this dogshit taco of a movie up until you mention Kesley Grammer in this. Now I've gotta see Frazier Crane, action hero. "hey baby I feel the blues are calling for bullets and broken legs, oh my!"
Knew this was going to turn out *bad* when even the Cinema Snob gave it a D-, and that's huge coming from him as his rating of a B- or a C is usually a full blown D for the average film-goer due to the sheer amount of schlock he watches.
17:56 "No one knew them for action before". But certainly after because one of the young members was Glen Powell who would later be in Top Gun: Maverick! 18:05 "Scott Eastwood was one of them! " NO! He is not in any of The Expendables movies! You probably meant Kellan Lutz! 18:11 What are you suggesting? Are you talking about Ronda Rousey again? Because Ronda Rousey was FIRST in The Expendables 3 (2014) and THEN in Fast & Furious 7 (2015), notably! In hindsight the casting director for The Expendables 3 (2014) did a pretty phenomenal job, ain't that right? And I haven't even mentioned all the main additions like Antonio Banderas, Wesley Snipes, Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford (A YEAR BEFORE The Force Awakens, notably) and so on and so forth....
Cynthia Rothrock, Don "The Dragon" Wilson, Sammo Hung...all still alive, never been in one of these. It's not like Stallone didnt have options. Shit... Hulk Hogan would do this in a second.
I saw it as a way to kill a couple hours on Friday while I was waiting on some work to be done on my car down the street from a theater. By the end, I was wishing I had just sat in the mechanic lobby as that would have been a better usage of the time. It was a total piece of shit. I have two "positives" and I barely consider them as positives. Statham beats up a social media personality which I liked only because it's how I feel about social media people. Second, there was a pretty good fight scene towards the end with Tony Jaa, everything else about it was utter trash and everyone involved should be incredibly ashamed.
That ending sounds like something he wrote after the fact. Like they were too scared to pull the trigger on so they tact that ending on during reshoot.
Too many people yes and unless you're a talented visionary like Zack Snyder or Marvel back in the first 3 phases, or Don Watts when directing Spider-Man: No Way Home, people who make movies that include too many popular people haven't got the slightest clue on what to do.
Megan Fox probably wishes she had a time machine to travel back to May, 2010 to stay a part of the cast of Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon after watching all the bad reviews for this movie.
I think she really has a good role in Jennifer's Body and the rest was just cause of reputation instead of talent. "Oh ya hire Megan Fox, it'll put butts in seats." Said no sane producer ever
@@JoeChilltonThere’s a movie she did not too long ago called Til Death where I heard she wasn’t bad in. But that’s the only other role where people liked her in. Oh maybe her guest stint on New Girl.
