I am currently trying to get Fakours as well, researching R27R1 ATM. I find that AIM-54As, while not surefire, I can have success with. Last time I killed 6 players and 4 AIs over hour and a bit. Most were Phoenix kills with 1 AIM-9 and maybe 2 AIM-7. When case studying the missile behavior in replay to improve my tactics, I found out that majority of misses were: 1) Missiles switching to going for each other instead of the aircraft. More often that I would expect. 2) Someone scoring hit on the target just before me. 3) Me shooting at missile reflection as at the time I acquired it had speed comparable with aircraft so hard to distinguish if it is one a bandit quickly when you need to make quick decision. I wasn't able to see whole replay, but I saw surprisingly few (maybe just one) cases where it would just go stupid so my respect to Phoenix increased. But I must also admit that in that particular review enemies were not maneuvering that much, which might have bee related to quite a lot of clouds hiding the smoke trails. When I shot 2 Phoenixes in enemy A-4 AI strike formation, it got 3 of them.
Okay, Sedjil enjoyer here! So yes, it is a American HAWK missile modified to be lighter and air launched! The interesting thing about it is that you quoted its range at around 10-20km. This is somewhat wrong. It's use is more of a SARH Phoenix, if you look at the range of it (easier done in ARB), you can see that it's best ranges are about 25-50km depending on speed, closure, and altitude. It also accelerates way faster than the Phoenix, and can catch people off guard. Being hard locked for upwards of 20 seconds can have people dodging erratically for most of it only to let their guard down, thinking it might be a stray ARH missile, and get hit in the face with a comically large missile. Just like the Phoenix though, it suffers from 20km and below as usually it is still in its crazy boost phase and simply is moving too fast to effectively turn against targets moving at a decent aspect. Never had a missile fail to kill what it hit, now getting the hit.... takes some work. All in all, not the greatest missile. But as I like to put it, funny over function.
Some have already said but a little more context on the Fakour's power for the ones wondering: The sustainer is straight up stronger than the booster on the Phoenix. Phoenix has a burn of 30 seconds while the Fakour has one of 27. However the Fakour has a booster that burns for 5 that outputs something around 90K newtons a second with the sustainer burning for 21 seconds around 12K newtons a second. The phoenix is a 30 second booster of about 10K newtons a second. The Sedjil has the exact same motor as the Fakour but it's semi-active and just cant pull well at all. Cool little meme missile though.
Anything below the top tippity top brackets and red is doing fine, at least on US and CIS servers, esepcially around that 11.7 range where the mig 23mld gets to fight f5's and phantom E's. At 11.3 they also do very well with early mig 23's and the mig 21bis, at 12.7 they do alright unless france and russsia combo them on the enemy team but otherwise "red team is doing terrible" is bs, people should be specific and say late cold war red team is doing bad
@@dnfluffles772 ah, werent it assumed that we were talking about 12.7 and beyond? It is a problem that would be shout out loud if it happened to USA. This problem even affects ARB cos top tier Russia is as unplayeable as top tier Germany. And if you want me to specify: MiG29 branch, Su27 branch. Those are compeeting with much better counterparts, and its not even fair, M29 and S27 are even twice as agile in some cases yet they are not fixing it. They did fix F16's and F15's flight model when they needed. Why is it too much to ask for the same treatment for Redfor?
One of the main problems gaijin need to fix is the R77 drag modeling,it got even worse after the "fix" where they reduced the structure drag but massively increased wing area wich doesnt even make sense for lattice fins....
@@dnfluffles772 I know this comment was written before this but now thanks to A-10C with Aim-9Ms and HMD IFF at 11.3 balance got shat on even harder. Redfor air players can truly only rely on skill.
The amount of fakours and phoenix's you face is ridiculous. Luckily if you can avoid them, winning a dogfight is easy because if they dont fire all of their fakours they are so heavy you run rings around them
The biggest issue i have with this plane is its horrible RWR. It doesn't show any aircraft's name, and DOESN'T EVEN WARN of any lock or launch Even Russian RWRs at that BR or lower even shows lock and launch warning
This is true but the rwr does have a precise directional rwr and if you get a constant spike you know you are being locked/fired on. I don't have too much of a problem with it
One correction the Fakour and sedjil have a crazy strong motor that burns for about 5 secs and then they have a 21 second sustainer that is is about as strong as the 54A engine. I am pretty sure that right now both of these are the fastest missles in game.
A considerable amount of time has passed since everybody got that cancer plane on hands. Since then sim lobbies are empty on red side and spammed on blue side. Which got me thinking: is there a point in buying cs4 mirage from gjn market to clown on all of these tomcats in sim?
For real, redfor doesnt have any fox3 aircraft until the top bracket while bluefor just lobs fox3 missiles all the time and cries because russia has r27er
@@dyaman_ Well that was reality in the nineties and early 2000's, the countries that we think off as redfor didn't have them in regular force eide use until the 2010s. And russia/USSR doesn't get to complain, after all they got favourable treatment basically from 2.0 zo 6.0 in Sim. Same as the US. And then getting favourable treatment in the fox one bracket, the ER is grest, but it's a 1991 missile, at which time the AIM-120A came around. And yeah in Lock On/Flaming Cliffs/DCS in we've been dealing with that for 20 years and got around it. Or getting the Mig-29 before the F-16, despite the Viper's IOC in 1979 and the Mig in 1983. Or before The F-15, despite that being earlier in 1976, which also came out concurrently with the Su-27 Flanker, despite tat reaching IOC in 1986.....again a full 10 years behind. And the Hornet not even being out yet. Getting tv guided weapons first, despite trailing the US over a decade in that.... The Soviet/Russia tree has been given a leg up a lot of times by Gaijin, who have sometimes inverted History.... And let's not even mention that the R-77 supply chain for CIS countries aka non-export countries wasn't secured until the early 2000s. By which time the AIM-120A was already replaced by AIM-120B snd early AIM-120Cs, with better range, radars etc. Which are curiously absent from the game. Now this whole whinging about who has it worse between the US and USSR is just a bad joke to the players of any other nation, given the ammount of preferentiak treatment you've both been given. That's the two favourite children complaining on who gets more cake, while the rest fights for scraps....
@@dyaman_From the deep of the heart BLUEFOR rlly believes that the R27ER is better than any Fox3 lol just because of mach 5 wich if you see on the new tacview it never reach those speeds lol
@@M0LOCK yeah lol. Also they should try keeping the lock of your one missile while the enemy just starts notching and going cold while their 4 missiles are coming to get you
Air Sim seems the same now as prior to the event. When the BR rotates to 11.7-12.7, the F-14s are the dominant aircraft as no one can match. It is a monster during that rotation. When the BR rotates to put the F-14s against 13.7 jets, it's competitive but not dominant. As to US vs Russia.... it's been lopsided since Seek and Destroy update and was a bit more favorable to the US prior to the update because the PvE guys and bots spamming F-111 and F-4S bomb trucks that no one can match.
Yeah this isn’t true, 12.7 F-14 is strong but everyone can contest you. Yak-141 and M2K are both equal threats. It’s 13.0 where the tomcat struggles against specifically the gripen and f-16s with 9Ms. And if they ever want to help USSR and bring the su27 down to 13.0…
F14A with 4x Sparrow and 4x Sidewinders is honestly much better, I know there are a lot of inexperienced players at 12.7 but any player with even a little awareness will dodge the Fakour VERY easily, you can roll under them like you could with the phoenix before, it will struggle to pull into you at all considering it will likely still be burning when it passes you with how fast it accelerates
