The Failed Masculinity of Walter White 

In case you aren’t joking, he did!

This is a good point. I always hear how men long for love and respect. So not receiving it may push their pride like Walt’s to bad places.

@@Eilonwy95 honestly I feel like everyone could use more love and respect. The present lack thereof in the world encourages self harm and depravity. We all want warmth and people we can trust. Otherwise existence is a ocean of emptiness devoid of meaning.

@@tomgundy7332 🎯💯

@@tomgundy7332absolutely. I think that is why there is this push for “self love” because we don’t trust others to love us. What we should all do is show love and respect to each other as well.

@@tomgundy7332 Love is given but respect is something you can earn more of, or throw away.

Very nice. The difference between being proud and being prideful. Being proud of the work you do means it has great meaning to you towards another end. Being prideful leaves nothing more than a sense of superiority in one's own self worth, determined by oneself in a vacuum.

A man provides

There is a video essay I would love to see from Samwise! Edit: grammar and spelling

"A miserable little pile of secrets" also works.

@@bc-cu4on "Enough of this. Have at you!"

A man chooses, unlike a slave Who never strays from the path that his master paves Follows every order and does everything they say Now would you kindly... OBEY

"You think you have memory's. A farm. A family. A plane. A crash. And then...this place. Did that farm really exist? Was there ever a family? Did thst plane crash, or...was it hijacked? Forced down, Forced down by something LESS then a man- something bred to sleepwalking through life until activated by a simple phrase, spoken by its kindly master"

If only. The comments make it all too clear young men are NOT taught that.

That's true, though I would argue that Walt does cook meth out of a mixed desire at first. He does want to provide for his family - but in an incredibly prideful way where he won't accept "charity".

The fact that Walt chose to cook meth (a substance that kills people and destroys lives), over a comfortable job, swallowing his pride, and working for a company he CHOSE to walk away from, shows where Walt's true character lies.

He is the blue print 🙏🏼

The Definition, one might say.

Not to mention a job which would erase the financial struggles he had suffered working as a teacher and in a car wash. Walt was handed a solution to every single problem he was facing and refused it out of stubborn pride. His downfall due to pride is almost akin to Lucifer.

did we watch same show? his son hated him, his nagging wife was watching tv and smoking with a pregnant belly while he was working two jobs

This is just ignorance right here. Sure, the cancer was a push to finally stop taking shit from people, but getting into the “business” was originally so his family wouldn’t be buried in debt after his, at the time, inevitable seeming departure. It didn’t start as ego.

@@DalvoryFair enough, it’s been a while since I’ve rewatched Breaking Bad. I’d say Walt started cooking for noble intentions, but continued out of ego.

He rejected a well-paying job with great health insurance that would have taken care of his family. It 100% was because of ego.

Oh definitely.

Would Walt still take that word to heart if he knew that Gus is gay?

@@nont18411 probably. He takes it to heart because it’s convenient to his ego and what he wants to believe. Not because he respects gus so much.

Gus also mentions that he has kids THAT WE NEVER SEE. Meaning they are definitely just inventions he made to have Walter relate to him.

​@@yggdrasil2That and it's heavily implied in BCS season 6 that he's gay. Also he lives alone in BCS, and I think Gilligan or someone said Gus and his business partner who was killed by Hector were in a gay relationship.

He said that he felt embarrassed that his dad was maimed and mangled. He said that thing to a disabled, maimed and mangled son.

@@nont18411 And shaking his hands!

Yep, that's human pride for you. We attribute our successes to ourselves and our failures to our environment. Spot on.

​@@master_samwiseIt's amazing how there's mention of the 'Human' aspect, but then go against that for the indoctrinated polarization, regarding 'Gender' - this whole notion of 'progressing meaning' is just a prescriptive abstraction that's made to divide based on a social construction of setting a higher set of perceived standards, that determines the indoctrinated polarization based on the division that 'gender' exemplifies through its 'progressive meaning' that only enacts on generalisation & differentiation, which makes 'gender' as a whole or a social construction as an allegorical & paradoxical means of indoctrinating & polarizing against the essence of being a 'Human'... this goes to the subset of 'masculinity & femininity' to which is all based on Gender Constructivism, which this abstraction exemplifies the subset that goes against 'Gender Constructivism' such as 'Gender Essentialism & Performativity' being a 'Human' is what matters in essence as is Male & Female since both are intertwined into being a 'Human' - nothing more & nothing less.

​@@master_samwisealso, this whole 'masculinity' debacle of what to absolutely determine on what's 'masculinity' onto a 'Human' (which in the premise of the video is only targeted towards males) is nothing but BS... (now im going to go off track & just argue about Modernistic Values) 'morality' & any synonymous that are derived from the Etymological nature that's been throughout Human History (which amplifies Modernism) are abided towards the progressive usage of forwarding 'meaning' of what a Human or Humanity should strive for in juxtaposition for what the essence of the existence of a 'Human' being should & shouldn't be as in its absolute form of truth & it's subset i.e. the determination of the Higher set of perceived standards; this further progresses throughout the Human Consciousness/Perception & the indoctrination, that being as; prescriptive abstractions that equate to that standard is 'Psychopath' or any personality disorder for that matter especially Personality within itself - then there's another prescriptive terms such as 'Humane, Humanise, subhuman, inhuman, monster' - (this also includes 'animal' even though Humans are technically animals by its prescriptive & descriptive nature of what an 'animal' is in essence, but Humans differentiate based on viewing Humanity based on the Human Consciousness & it's Cognitive parts of the brain that transpires Humans into bring higher-sentient-beings; the term 'animal' within context is just a subset of the contrived & prescriptive abstraction of what a 'Human' in essence should & shouldn't be as; these terms are used as an allegorical & paradoxical means to forward 'meaning' for Humanity, which further exemplifies generalisation & differentiation) that's an allegorical and paradoxical abstraction that goes against the very essence of what & how being a 'Human' is in its very essence of existence... the antonymous that is the superficial subject that is the abstraction of the dilemma that is 'Good' & 'Evil' - is a vague but a broad contrived spectrum that somehow Humans spewed upon a subset of 'meaning' in regards to Humanity based off this constructed dilemma that is 'Good' & 'Evil' - which in turn blurs and convolutes the world by its illogical fallacies that a subset of Humans have spewed into the Modern Ideological Dogma of an accepted standard of whatever it may tailor towards it such as the concept of 'race' - 'Morality' - 'Normality' - etc. determining on what's 'right & wrong' is once again another 'subset' of forwarding meaning via any means to indoctrinate based on prescriptive means that translate into it being descriptive by its apparent, absolute nature & the linguistic Modernism forms of indoctrination. the whole dilemma of 'Hero & Villain' is (also, once again another but MAJOR subset that's been shaped or transpired from Modernism) something that serves to give out 'meaning' as a concept, but it exemplifies the allegorical and paradoxical nature of trying to give out 'meaning' - for and against Humanity aka Human Nature or what it means to be 'Human'. it also ties into how much a group of sentient beings such as Humans can have a biased inconvenienced perspective of who to perceive, deem or determine which one is a 'Hero & Villain' based from a Ideological Dogmatic stance, such as the (everlasting) Higher set of perceived standards that gets determined in its absolute form of truth to what it should & shouldn't be ultimately & justly perceived as... so with that pointed out; all of the abstractions that I've just mentioned, fall into the measures of its superficiality regarding everything that I've just mentioned or elaborated (& not just modernism/meta-modernism) that is subjected towards to on its superficial level of presentation & the exemplification of its presence; this is a common superficial meta-modernist technique that's used in a means to transpire it's transparent/superficial determination of what it absolutely seems by justly, when that's just what it is - it's 'absolutely seems by justly' - everyone is indoctrinated to being subjected to any of these matters for being 'Human'.

​@@master_samwisealso, this whole 'masculinity' debacle of what to absolutely determine on what's 'masculinity' onto a 'Human' (which in the premise of the video is only targeted towards males) is nothing but BS...

​@@master_samwise (now im going to go off track & just argue about Modernistic Values) 'morality' & any synonymous that are derived from the Etymological nature that's been throughout Human History (which amplifies Modernism) are abided towards the progressive usage of forwarding 'meaning' of what a Human or Humanity should strive for in juxtaposition for what the essence of the existence of a 'Human' being should & shouldn't be as in its absolute form of truth & it's subset i.e. the determination of the Higher set of perceived standards; this further progresses throughout the Human Consciousness/Perception & the indoctrination, that being as; prescriptive abstractions that equate to that standard is 'Psychopath' or any personality disorder for that matter especially Personality within itself - then there's another prescriptive terms such as 'Humane, Humanise, subhuman, inhuman, monster' - (this also includes 'animal' even though Humans are technically animals by its prescriptive & descriptive nature of what an 'animal' is in essence, but Humans differentiate based on viewing Humanity based on the Human Consciousness & it's Cognitive parts of the brain that transpires Humans into bring higher-sentient-beings; the term 'animal' within context is just a subset of the contrived & prescriptive abstraction of what a 'Human' in essence should & shouldn't be as; these terms are used as an allegorical & paradoxical means to forward 'meaning' for Humanity, which further exemplifies generalisation & differentiation) that's an allegorical and paradoxical abstraction that goes against the very essence of what & how being a 'Human' is in its very essence of existence... the antonymous that is the superficial subject that is the abstraction of the dilemma that is 'Good' & 'Evil' - is a vague but a broad contrived spectrum that somehow Humans spewed upon a subset of 'meaning' in regards to Humanity based off this constructed dilemma that is 'Good' & 'Evil' - which in turn blurs and convolutes the world by its illogical fallacies that a subset of Humans have spewed into the Modern Ideological Dogma of an accepted standard of whatever it may tailor towards it such as the concept of 'race' - 'Morality' - 'Normality' - etc. determining on what's 'right & wrong' is once again another 'subset' of forwarding meaning via any means to indoctrinate based on prescriptive means that translate into it being descriptive by its apparent, absolute nature & the linguistic Modernism forms of indoctrination. the whole dilemma of 'Hero & Villain' is (also, once again another but MAJOR subset that's been shaped or transpired from Modernism) something that serves to give out 'meaning' as a concept, but it exemplifies the allegorical and paradoxical nature of trying to give out 'meaning' - for and against Humanity aka Human Nature or what it means to be 'Human'. it also ties into how much a group of sentient beings such as Humans can have a biased inconvenienced perspective of who to perceive, deem or determine which one is a 'Hero & Villain' based from a Ideological Dogmatic stance, such as the (everlasting) Higher set of perceived standards that gets determined in its absolute form of truth to what it should & shouldn't be ultimately & justly perceived as... so with that pointed out; all of the abstractions that I've just mentioned, fall into the measures of its superficiality regarding everything that I've just mentioned or elaborated (& not just modernism/meta-modernism) that is subjected towards to on its superficial level of presentation & the exemplification of its presence; this is a common superficial meta-modernist technique that's used in a means to transpire it's transparent/superficial determination of what it absolutely seems by justly, when that's just what it is - it's 'absolutely seems by justly' - everyone is indoctrinated to being subjected to any of these matters for being 'Human'.

And is even considered the Devil's sin. Few things are more destructive than pride.

and that's why it is the worst of them

Pride is not just 1 of the 7 deadly, its the source of all the other 6.

Monk is a masterpiece!

Monk is honestly one of my favorite shows ever. It's genuinely as perfect as they come. I will have to think about that (and probably do it eventually).

@@master_samwise great to hear!!

It's interesting, because Monk could be very courageous and thoughtful sometimes, and other times completely petty and childish, seeing only his wants and needs and completely bulldozing Sharona.

@@cailin5301 Oh definitely!! He is a good man struggling with his own selfishness. He can be very thoughtless about others preferences and focused so much on his own. He is also, “the cheapest man alive.” He cares deeply about those he loves at the end of the day and rises above his fears and selfishness for them when it counts.

Which one?

Haha I can only hope. Either way, I’m proud of the video.

@@UpperCumberlandGamers ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YmWgp4K9XuU.htmlsi=tO8Q62dPpa5qg--u this one, he made a community note about it, and had a pinned comment in the vid, I dont remember in which he tells people to stop watching it but he does in a tongue in cheek way, which i find amusing

It's just SO GOOD.

Absolutely! I’ll listen to it at the gym a lot, and also the whole soundtrack while doing school work

Are we talking when he's under the influence or not ( I haven't watched the just seen clips so I don't know if he isn't all there a lot of the time.)

He’s usually not under the influence. It’s pretty much just the one scene, but fair question

Crap. I just liked, but I don't have a boom stick yet...

@@Eilonwy95 thanks

I’ve heard it both ways.

There's a difference?

@@master_samwise Yes. Anti Hero's aren't usually evil. The Punisher, Geralt of Rivia, Sanjuro, and The Man With No Name are all anti heroes, but are still HEROES. Stannis Baratheon straddles the line between "Flawed Hero" and anti Hero. Barristan Selmy and any of the heroes in Tolkien and Lewis are just heroes. Michael Corleone, Kratos in GOW III, and Walter White are vilain protagonists since they are clearly evil. Magneto and Mister Freeze are anti vilians since they are sympathetic and have commendable goals, but use evil means to achieve them. Magneto these days has one foot or sometimes two feet in anti hero, Sam. I prefer Heroic Magneto. One who has let go of his hate and while very hard-edged, is a good man. Kratos is an antihero who went full vilian, then was redeemed went anithero again and then full hero.

@@balrog262what about eren yeager?

I'm glad! I have no actual training or experience in character writing to be clear. I just really enjoy a good character.

Exactly!! Strength is a great gift and responsibility. If you don’t use that strength to help others, how can that be considered masculine?

You are welcome! Thank you for watching!

You’re not supposed to find sympathy for him but for the people around him he damages. You missed the point

I guess it depends how you define it, but I’m not sure we can healthily incorporate pride into our lives. I believe we all need true humility, which is an accurate self knowledge including knowledge of one’s own worth. We all matter and have inherent dignity but we cannot let our selfishness or pride cause us to assert our will over others

Eventually! I’ve heard good things about Beserk but haven’t gotten to it yet.

@@master_samwise You are the goat

Not in any way associated with the channel. But thealmightyloli has a 21 hour video going through the Manga. The golden age arc movies are how I got into it.

@@Jfund12 I've seen that. They are really good!

I've heard there are several versions of Berserk just not sure which to watch

I try to mix things up now and again.

Thank you! I have watched some of AoT but yeah I need to get back into it.

It's really good. Would watch it all again.

Yeah it’s a work in progress. I’m bad with cameras.

@@master_samwise Totally understandable! You'll get there, I just didn't know if you were aware :)

LOL nope.

No a man doesn't have to to shit you base your entire principles from slave morality

No it’s not wrong. It’s more clear knowing walt that pretty much everything is about his pride, so he’s only worried about how his son remembers him, not for his son’s sake, but so he can while he is alive think about how much his son should and will think of him as this great provider. He’s not worried about setting a good example. Just his ego.

⁠@@Eilonwy95Walter getting pissed off that Walter Jr made a cancer donation site for him shows how vain he really is. People offer him legitimate help but he turns it down cause of his ego.

@@petermj1098absolutely!

Major spoilers for Better Call Saul - It's another pretty clear cut case of pride. From the point Chuck tells him "You never mattered all that much to me", Jimmy just stops giving a shit about morals and goes fully "I'll show them all".

I'll have to mull that one over. Jimmy's got pride (we all do), but his main vice seems to be his willingness to cut corners to get what he wants, as opposed to preserving his own ego. There's pride in that, of course, but manifested quite differently.

@@master_samwise Putting some more thoughts into it, I believe Jimmy's main sin is Sloth. I had always thought of sloth as laying around doing nothing, the opposite of productivity. But if you're taking shortcuts like Jimmy to avoid facing hard work, isn't that another form of sloth? With the irony being that like Saul Goodman, we put far more effort into avoiding work than we would completing it.

I thought it was pretty funny mys

Also do you have a family of your own?

Yes and yes!

@@master_samwiseI asked the same question a few months ago. I think it’s a testament to your moral and intellectual formation that your Catholicism shines through in your videos, even without explicit mentions of it. Bravo!

Autonomous is not a bad thing. It means “having the freedom to act independently” or “acting in accordance with one’s moral duty rather than desire.” Sounds like good things for men.

@@Eilonwy95 ya it’s a nice quality.

@@brendonford3838 Agreed. Your original comment made it sound like you thought it was a negative thing. I apologize if I was just mistaken.

@@Eilonwy95 I feel like saying it’s the essential or peak of masculinity gives me bad vibes. It’s like if saying the epitome of femininity is patience. Great, let’s all be virtuous to overcome when everyone else is lacking. I concede your point that it’s not a bad trait, I can’t deny that, I just want something….more.

@@brendonford3838 I can see that, but I don’t believe he is saying it is the peak of masculinity. He is just saying that this is Walt at his most masculine/virtuous. Walt is still far from the peak of masculinity at the beginning of the show. He is a better man than he becomes, but still not at all a paragon. The pinnacle of masculinity is not just one but all the virtues incorporated into a man’s life.

The reasons were needless violence. Not generally good to escalate the situation. Plus he took him down from behind.

@@Eilonwy95 he was outclassed and outnumbered, it wouldn't have been fair to begin with. And anyone stupid enough to make fun of jr in full view like that is always too stupid to be reasoned with. He'd never remember a tongue lashing and most likely just laugh it off, but he'll remember getting dropped by some old guy

@@evan12697I don’t think he should have fought him head on either. But I don’t think it is moral to attack someone from behind for verbal stupidity. Those guys were idiots, but they aren’t going to learn crap from getting hit from behind either. Just going to chalk it up to getting sucker kicked. Walt’s responsibility is to help Walter learn to be a better man. Attacking people from behind and escalating a verbal situation into violence is not virtuous. It is understandable, but not the right thing.

@@Eilonwy95 I understand the logic of it but you've only got 2 cheeks to turn and Jesus himself wasn't above flipping tables to stand up for what's right.

@@evan12697 I agree, but flipping tables is different than kicking someone in the back of the knee. I think it’s pretty clear Christ would not have kicked one of the Pharisees. Also, I don’t believe that we are supposed to limit the amount of times we turn the other cheek at offenses. Kind of like forgiving 70x7 is really just forgiving always. Sure Walt could call out the A hole. Not sure if it would do much good, but it would at least do less harm than resorting to violence.

Amen and amen

amen brotha

Huh?

@@Eilonwy95 sorry. Typo. I meant. Please brush your hair.

Bruh why so toxic?

What? He’s married with a bunch of kids. And very handsome. I don’t think he’s super worried about other women paying attention

So you disagree with him on what a "man" is, and your decision is to mock his appearance rather than bring out why you disagree. Boy, I do wonder what your definition is.

If masculinity doesn't exist, why are there so many RU-vid videos about it? Huh? Ever think of that?

@@master_samwise then tell me what is there in a proper masculine man that is not in a woman? Or vice versa? Positive masculinity is being a protector... Uhhhh if I attack a woman's child, she will totally try to kill me. Its not relegated to a man. A man is a provider.... A woman with a job is also a provider. A woman is nurturing, caring.... Uhh my dad is more emotionally vulnerable to me than my mom or sis. My mom or sis instead use tougher love on me. My dad talks feelings, my mom talks solutions. We are sentient creatures. The moment we gained intelligence, all people on the planet become same. There are bloodthirsty women and pacifistic men. The word 'masculinity' is itself a problem because it tries to make you believe that there is an inherent difference in a man and a woman, which causes toxic masculinity.

@@master_samwise I was genuinely asking

Check out my Iroh video for an answer.

@@master_samwise i have and YOU agree with me. Integrity, wisdom, authenticity, loyalty etc are, what you said, both authentic masculinity and femininity? Do you see? They are the same qualities. A good man is the same as a good woman. There is no masculinity or femininity. Those terms are what causes men to think there is a fundamental difference between men and women. That causes toxic masculinity. You agreed with me in the video. If you think more, if masculinity and femininity have the same qualities, What about non binary people and everyone who isn't cis? Do you see that you would have to create extra terms that would still have the same qualities. Do you see how meaningless the terms become? Iroh is a good man because he is a good person first. Iroh and Avatar in general does not make any distinction between femininity and masculinity. Azula, toph Katara and aang all easily subvert traditional femininity and masculinity. It is because those terms are truly meaningless

He literally goes on to say that walt is not perfectly masculine at the beginning as he is not living up to his potential. All of those things you list are part of virtue. Yes we are all called to virtue. But for men that virtue is masculine and for women it’s feminine. To be humiliated for the sake of others is very masculine. The greatest example of masculinity was Himself humiliated for others.

@@Eilonwy95 no, being humiliated for the sake of others is neither masculine nor feminine nor anything else. It could be considered virtuous depending on the context, but it has nothing to do with gender roles, and a man who was given everything to be successful but is reduced to menial labor has already failed. Also, please keep J out of this -- religion is the death of rationality.

@@vlastelinprislic286 I think we need to define terms. I define masculinity as “how a man should be.” If it isn’t how he should act, then why do we tell any man to be masculine? If it’s just a set of accidental traits men tend to have without any morality attached, why care? How do you define masculinity?

@@Eilonwy95 if a characteristic is equally applicable to people who are not men, then I don't see it as masculine. I provided some characteristics that I do see as masculine in the opening comment.

@@vlastelinprislic286 Your examples are “protects, elevates, serves as a role model, leads to a better future “ if I’m not mistaken. These can easily apply to women as well. Women often protect their children, elevate others, serve as role models, and have led others to a better future.” Additionally, one can accomplish all of those things and be humiliated for the good of those they love at times. Of course women men will express them differently because they are different from men. Similarly with all virtuous qualities.

You are a child buddy

Do you have anything to back this claim up?

Why?

He definitely never said they should be a slave to women. Both men and women should work to serve those they love. You probably only hear about men because I’m guessing you are a man. I am a woman and believe me I hear all the time about what women should do. It’s an important message for both sexes that we should love one another and try to help one another. He mostly talks about masculinity because he is a man, but if you are interested he has an almost hour long video on Eowyn and why her loving service for her family is what makes her a great example of femininity.

We hear "what women should do" all the time, sir. That's what the manosphere does 24/7 and I wish they would change the tune.

​@@Eilonwy95 what you hear woman should do ? not have more body counts then genghis khan ? oh the horror 😮

f RU-vid for deleting responses Margie is S l a v e r y

@@AmirDarkOne believe it or not, I pay attention to more than just the red pill nonsense. While chastity is absolutely a virtue men and women should have, the red pill outlook on it is often silly. I mean more like how women should love, serve, and sacrifice for their families and friends. How we should grow in virtue. Stuff like that. A bit higher of a calling.

In what way? Clearly not literally as he is married with two kids. I never really understand how people use the term “incel.”

@@Eilonwy95 He was an incel like immediately after Skyler tries to kick him out. He just moves his internecine ass back in then tries getting down and dirty with his boss. I don’t necessarily mean incel as it’s explicit definition, I’m just saying Walt always pathetic as a man. Before the start of the show and during his time moonlighting as a chemistry teacher. By the time he goes full Heisenberg, he’s basically the epitome of “not a good guy”. He’s just a prick. And he did it all because he couldn’t let go of his pride. I think a lot of incels are the same way. They are the way they are because of their pride.

@@WrottJackson So incel basically means a bad or pathetic man? Got it. I think he wasn’t living up to his potential before the events of the show but he was trying to be a good husband and father. Yeah his pride really takes him down the wrong path in an extreme way. I think a lot of people, myself included, struggle with pride. So , while I’ll never be in his situation, it’s a good lesson for all of us. Helpful to see such a massive downfall.

@@Eilonwy95 I kinda always viewed in an ironic sense. Walt’s cancer was basically the best thing that could’ve happened to him and the absolute worst thing for everyone else around him. He was already at a dead end in his life before the first episode. If anything, Walt’s cancer allowed him to actually live. Again, in the worst way possible. I’d call it negative self-actualization that leads to the downfall of literally everyone he cares about and makes him fabulously wealthy and infamous. I feel like the only part he didn’t get the last laugh on was building an empire BIGGER than Gray Matter. Other than that, he gets pretty much everything he wanted. The shit that people like Andrew Tate peddle all the time is ultimately a form of self-improvement and actualization which is good, it’s just like literally everything else that makes it bad. In a similar way, Walt became a better version of himself (as in being more capable, not morality-wise) but it’s also to the detriment of all the people around him. I guess that’s where I made the connection.

⁠@@WrottJacksonagreed! Everything he does in the end is from his own pride and selfishness. I like the term “negative self-actualization.” Not all self actualization is good. It has to be ordered towards becoming the most virtuous person, not the most powerful version of ourselves. Walt in his empire is the most powerful version of himself. He just also sucks. Also agree that the stuff Andrew Tate teaches is that same selfish self improvement. Improving life only focused on self rather than thinking of others as well. It’s all so shallow really. It’s good to work hard, it’s good to exercise, but the reasons he gives (at least the ones I’ve heard him discussed) are so self focused. Thanks for your insight.

How is it cringe?

Chritising man = misandry?

Skyler sucks too. Marie sucks, Hank sucks, Gus sucks, Mike sucks. They're all deeply flawed people.