The Fakes of War Thunder | Fake Tank Friday 

This comment is edited because I was wrong, if you wanna kno then ask GetDunced

The Char B1 Ter could probably have gone on the list, given that, while certainly real, and pre-production models were completed(modified from B1 hulls), the actual production model, which had a fair few differences from the pre-production model, never saw total completion, only partial.

Can you do brawl (from transformers) next?

To clarify about the Ho-Ri, the mess came out of a miscommunication between Gaijin and their Japanese researchers with Mai being one in particular. The specifications for the Ho-Ri were initially 75 mm on the front in total which is where they got the numbers for the Ho-Ri Prototype. That is the one directly based off of the mockup with the only difference being the driver's hatch that Gaijin added onto it. The Ho-Ri Production mixed up a engine proposal, the specifications of the Ho-Ri II, and the planned performance of the gun in what you can truly call a fake tank. The 1,100 hp engine was proposed and drafted but never completed or actually considered to be put into it, the Ho-Ri II specifications is where the 125 mm UFP come from, and the gun uses the planned performance of the experimental 10 cm tank gun (long) which was to penetrate 200 mm at 1,000 m/s. In reality, it only reached a velocity of 900 m/s in firing tests. The only part I don't get where they got the information from is the thickness of the casemates. In the case of both the Ho-Ri I and II, the casemates would've just been 75 mm thick so the Prototype's being 120 - 150 mm and the Production's being 200 - 225 mm is weird. Gaijin was told that information and by the time their researchers corrected them, it seems like the modeling had already been completed and with few Japanese tanks in that BR (on introduction) they just added it anyway. Iirc this also predated the statement they made about not adding in any more mockup or planned vehicles, which is how the J6K1 got pass because it was added just before that. Now the Ho-Ri Prototype does have some model differences, but it matches everything that was planned for it. The Ho-Ri Production is just a outright fake and the only reason it hasn't been removed is because Gaijin hasn't found anything that could replace it yet. The only possible candidates atm is the 105 mm GSR (TD based off of the B78 IFV) if more information is found on the gun or the Type 99 HSP. Edit: Also since this is commonly brought up; before anyone gets confused, the Ho-Ri I and the slanted mockup aren't the same. The Ho-Ri I refers specifically to the flat-front design with the fighting compartment in the rear. While the Ho-Ri mockup does situate the fighting compartment in the rear, that isn't the distinction that makes the I the I. It's the combination of both, and the Ho-Ri mockup, from what researchers can tell, predated the I and II designs, as it was just a demonstration of what the tank destroyer could look like before they became more realistic (Japan couldn't produce the large slanted UFP) with the Ho-Ri I design and then made a full blueprint for the Ho-Ri II design which is most likely the one that was being produced by the end of the war.

In the future I wouldn't mind you covering the M4-85 as seen in World of Tanks. It's implemented with a T-34 mod 1942 turret with the addition of a T-34-85 cupola... which actually makes the turret a mod 1943 but they call it the mod 1942 ingame... Now the M4-85 was an actually proposed design from the same guy who proposed the dual-gunned IS-2, but the proposal was to use the T34-85's turret on the 75mm Shermans they had. Soon after he had this idea though, the Russian began to recieve 76mm Shermans and the idea was dropped. www.reddit.com/r/CursedTanks/comments/ruo21p/m4_3485/ I ripped the models of the M4A2 and T-34-85 from WoT and mated the Sherman body and T-34-85 turret in blender to see what it would look like. I double checked the turret ring diameters and the -85's turret had a smaller ring then the Sherman so I image some form of modification could make the two mate. Note: the M4A2 Sherman I ripped incidentally had torsion bar suspension... so the model I made is erred in that regard. I wasn't paying attention and wound up using the cancelled M4A2E4 hull instead of a production models.

Well for one you have proofs that it never completed, for other you have paper that says it was completed, but without photo) Who knows, maybe they remove ostwind 2 in future too)

Except as a premium.

A tank thats even more fake

@@alexanderpopov473 nope The removed was a mockup The added Never got that far

Gaijn: That original porblem was solved no?

There is literally a tank in WoT made from the proposal from a Russian soldier, called the LTP; Light Tank Proposal. The soldier didn't give it a name. But despite it being drawn up from a common soldier, the drawings and design of the tank was quite good.

@@Thestuffnope they do label it as a proposal without prototypes, so at least its better than some of their... "real" tanks

😂😂

@@jonathangreenlees4772 sekrit dokuments

@@Thestuffnope In Soviet Russia you don’t give soldier tank, soldier give you a tank

sv_cheats 1 noclip ON )))))))) Profit.

@@RusskiBlusski Player disconnected Ban reason: Cheating

@@void1n The true reason the KT 10.5cm was hidden.

A proper 105 mm breach wouldn't even fit in a King tiger turret

The history channel has a special on the aliens that granted them such boons

Same, I like the more realistic aspects of WT… but I’d be embarrassing myself if I tried to say the game is a full on accurate simulator… it’s really not… Wish they’d stop adding copy and paste nation tech trees though and show some more love for the existing ones… I’d love some more additions to the game like the Alvis Saladin or more from the CVR(T) line of vehicles for the Brits… plenty of other things they could add too, both WWII and postwar… but I mean I haven’t even been back playing it for long after finishing a long break from the game and it would appear they’d much rather milk the battle pass now…

I play it if i can have fun.. thats why i stopped playing all 3 WT, WOT, and WoWs )))

@@zarlev9083 I can understand that… I only play WT because they’re ain’t really anything quite like it and I like my tanks… it’s less fun these days but it’s more I’m desperate now 😂

@@barghest9810 the game becomes fun when you don't take it seriously and just play at the tiers/br you have fun playing. Once you play it to grind it becomes a chore, tedious, and not fun

WoT and WT, both have realistic things, both have unrealistic things, want an example? An HEATFS bouncing on a Winbelwind turret.

@ConeOfArc pin this

Doing God's work homie

Panther2 had initially turret like Panther 1 with 75mmL70 gun. Panther 1F and later1 G got Schmalturm 1, 75mm L70 again. Also Schmalturm 2 for 88mmL71 created by Daimler Benz for PantherF. It in theory wasn't impossible to mounted on Panther2 chassis. Panther2 can found production factory, just one instead of Jagdtiger H, because roadwheels and suspension were at the same . Panther2 was 18 tons lighter and clearly more reliable than Jagdtiger H. E100 was redesigned for only 128mmL55 gun. Not 150mmL37. Maus planned with tube 150mm , and Tiger-Maus. Tiger-Maus cancelled and E100 approved with low priority , and 128mmL55 main weapon + 75mmL24 seccond weapon( or 75mmL3 Maus1 seccond weapon ). Tiger2 105mmL68 was usually replaced by E75 105mmL68( 105mmL52 ) but E75 wasn't completed before war ended. In theory bigger tank than King Tiger, E75 Tiger3 can hold turret with 105mm guns L52 and L68.

@jeff pentagon yeah but watching the video would explain why it's there mate

tutel

@jeff pentagon that'll be the hybrid section I presume...

WoT kinda does that already with the vehicle's description. Warships as well.

No they don't need to do anything. people need to stop pretending to be experts on things they are not.

why? its not a tank simulator, its just a arcade game

war thunder stopped caring about being historically accurate years ago. it happened when the tiger IIs started being forced to fight ATGM missiles and heat FS and cold war shit etc etc

Lol screw gaijin

Wargaming: Someone's stealing some ideas from my high tech ideas Gaijin (Daebom): *Using old school camera* Eheheeehhehheheh Wargaming-chan

It's funny you mention this and how everyone lost the plot due to it in game having the aft superfiring turret missing. Yet there are many vessels that are a hodgepodge of refits & or are missing armaments or are completely fake vessels ntm never finished too, One example is the Ocean Defence Ship Shounan which is missing a cannon on the aft turret yet crickets... But that's how it's where everyone only goes loony when it's something more known an not obscure. There are several lists of hodgepodge vessels or are missing weapons or fakes iirc an there's a Cruiser & a Destroyer that were never finished only being 40-60% built.

Because it never exist

well it is called “fake tank friday” so i don’t think he’ll talk about ships and planes.

money

The only fake Shimakaze i know is the cross dress trap Shimakaze

Someone's mad that they got killed by a copy and pasted tank

@@thegeneralfrogarmy9721 well yeah, War thunder is basically just Sherman tank simulator at this point. It's quite annoying

@@homiespaghetti1522 paper armor simulator u mean

@@thegeneralfrogarmy9721 true

@@thegeneralfrogarmy9721 The panzer 4's had thinner armor than all of the shermans, especially when compared to the flat rolled armors with no weak spots on the front above the tracks.

Returned for the bare minimum amount of time to get the footage I needed. Wasn't drawn back in by it though tbh

@@ConeOfArc for now

@@ConeOfArc well I certainly wasn't expecting you to reply But now that you're here: Great video bro, keep it up! :)

@@ConeOfArc this comment aged poorly

Balance )))

I wish I had the coelian😭😭😭

And the worst part is that they will give Germany this completely fictional tank but still haven't given America the skink

U know no one can be greater than ussr

And now the Coelian is meta for 6.3 Squadron Battles. Find me another 6.3 or lower AA that is effective and closed top to survive strafing from planes. There's none.

Bold of you to assume any tank can climb a slope in this game.

@@copter2000 The hellcat can, its top speed was 55 mph

@@MrGamer-rs4ov or allows it to have special modifications for our tanks to add diversity or that be too hard for them

@@copter2000 some japnese mbt the hellcat and us wheelie tank

The T95 and T28 were the same tank, it just went through different name changes and it did function.. But it was never "made" to run with the outer two treads off that was just for transport on trains since it was so wide. It just never made it out of testing since the war ended and we didn't need it for assaulting heavily fortified positions (It was never intended for use against tanks)

It couldn't be a GMC because it was too heavy, the US designations were simply too strict.

That...would solve a good amount of problems.

No one cares typed that up for no reason all ppl wanna do it play the game

@@gorrillaeggs4101 Many historian nerds like us do care about these accuracies

There’s now 3 separate times where the warthunder community leaked classified design specs on modern tanks to prove gaijin wrong.

​@@Kalashnikov413 nope

There is already vehicles that diverge from the "Same tedious gameplay" in the game while still being realistic. I do not want to see "Fringe fantastical vehicles" in War Thunder, if you want that go play WOT. I played world of tanks for years before I switched to War Thunder, i switched because it wasn't realistic enough, i say the majority of players stay for the realism aswell, disposing of realism to create wild tanks like WOT will kill the playerbase, and Gaijin knows it. I certainly would stop playing is they go that route.

Yeah. Personally i really want to try the matilda hedgehog but i cant be bothered buying it

@@takablepigon9686 I think this would hold up if War Thunder was realistic in the first place. Post Scriptum is a lot more realistic. Then Steel Beasts is a lot more realistic than both. War Thunder gives you the impression it's realistic, nothing else.

I agree, more fantastical or paper vehicles would be interesting. I want to use the O-I or Mansyu KI-89

@@TheBaralinChannel war thunder is more realistic than world of tanks without being boring or extremely tedious in its game mechanics like in an true to life simulator. It is the perfect balance. And yes, I know what you are about to say "War thunder is tedious" the grind is tedious, but the game mechanics are clean and enjoyable even if a little unrealistic. The balance that war thunder has would be destroyed either by making the game more realistic at cost of playability, or making it more arcady at the cost of realism. In both cases I would stop playing.

There’s a lot more documentation to say that Ho-Ri Prototypes were produced however unlike the versions in game which mirror the Ferdinand in design they were only the first drafts and drawings. The likely real vehicle would look much closer to a Jagdtiger in setup although unlike the ones in game it would have almost no significant armor like the Chi-Ri II

@@legozeke246 So.. Basically WoT blitz got to put all the design in? We have the Ho-Ri type 1 (the jagdtiger look alike) Ho-Ri type 2 (the one in the video) And the Ho-Ri type 3 (chi ri hull)

Yes and No, WoT blitz basically screws up the number. Their Ho-Ri Type 3 is the 1 only how it has a cannon I don’t think was ever considered. Their Ho-Ri type 1 is the 2 Their Ho-Ri Type 2 is the 3 Basically Japan realized the vehicle had next to no armor so they planned on making the Ho-Ri III actually have sloped armor. I know it sounds kinda confusing the way I initially put the statement. But as far as what is said to have been made only the Ho-Ri Type 2 and Type 5 Ka-to were the only tanks to ever carry the long Japanese 105mm

Nope sorry, you're getting more Shermans.

@@reinbeers5322 True, and it would be time they added the M4A3E8 (76) W to the Italian tech tree. It would be yet another Sherman, but at least it would have something more than the almost identicals IC and VC, that is, more armor and engine power.

World of tanks carp game

@@damienamory5857 they have fish yes

@@damienamory5857 im more of a trout gamer myself

I'm more forgiving of WoT having the fake or """"""experimental""""" vehicles, since they're much less realistic and arcade-y. Whereas WT tries to treat themselves as much more serious and historical. Heck for *years* they made fun of the ahistoric tanks in WoT

@@damienamory5857 Virgin World of Tanks carp game Vs Chad Yes, WoT is also a WW2 game but i prefer to play WT without disrespecting WoT

The weight of the Maus turret would have made it unusable for the E-100 so it's not historical at all to use it. They should have given it the more accurate turret instead since the addition to the game is already fantasy.

Plus having the E-100 with the more accurate turret would make it less of a maus clone that it is in game

@@ConeOfArc Or would it. Was the original E-100 turret lighter, even with its 150mm gun? I am not that sure. The only way to make it lighter is less armor, and smaller, which would mean smaller guns. So, in my opinion, even if gaijin were to add its original turret... It would not make much of a difference. I would even rather have the kitbashed E-100 we have ingame, at least made with existing components.

@@swisstraeng the E-100 compared to the maus had reduced armor thickness on all sides of the hull, presumably this would also mean armor would be reduced on the turret.

@@swisstraeng the original turret was too heavy when the E-100 (Tiger-Maus at the time) was being proposed. The design was changed significantly from a more Maus-like vehicle to what we know today and with it the turret needed a redesign. Like I say in the video no turret was ever selected in the end and the hull was designed separately as with most tank projects

I feel this same way about BF-109Z.

Same here Tiger 10.5 or Panther 2 were not even broken

I like the Panther 2, I have the Maus,10,5 Tiger, and the coelian unlocked. Just need to research.

@@LordOfChaos.x The panther 2 is broken as hell. That thing outclasses anything in its Tier, everytime i get one in my lobby its usually top of the scoreboard with 8+ kills.

@@awacsrazgriz967 its ussually top because only old players have them mostly So the skill difference with the rest of the team is big

I'm fine with tanks that only existed on paper if they actually existed on paper and are added to fill gaps in tech trees.

As if. America never gets to have anything halfway useful. All of our tanks that aren't completely outmatched are either moved up in br until they are useless or are given such a high repair cost or in the case of the super Pershing both. Oh and be moved down a tier because America can't have a useful grinding tank like the m24 because fuck us right.

People would nonstop complain about getting shot in the flamethrower tank and immediately exploding.

Rip fps on city maps

@@SueDoeNimh In a wirbelwind you blow up instantly if you get shot in the ammo, so that's not a problem.

@@Zorro9129 the problem is that the Wirbelwind was more useful than flame tanks

The armor was planned but never fitted if I remember right. So although that tank is semi fake ingame it's not far from the original plan for the vehicle

@@ConeOfArc isnt it the same case as Tiger 105? Altough Tiger 105 is more possible since the M6A2E1 doesnt tell the add on armor beside concept art?

@@rifqifm6434 no, the Tiger 105 was never even considered past the proposal which itself wasn't actually requested.

Took it straight from Wargaming, Gaijin saw WoT and decided War Thunder a YEAR later

The gun is what puts it that br. And the turret is almost impenetrable from the front. Hulled down M6A2E1 is op even for its current BR. You can't put a cannon that powerful any lower.

@@smolwavingsnail9028 I mean other than HE it’s got almost the same pen as the ASU-85. OP is seriously stretching it. Underplayed is more accurate. A of tanks can actually easily pen the turret if they just aimed for the big flat bit above the mantlet. And yeah the way to get hull down anywhere is just reverse the hull and face the engine deck at them. It’ll absorb almost every shell due to basically 250mm of engine. Only APDS & Soviet 122mm can pen through. Also gives 100% protection against 155mm HE shots to everything except top of turret shots

@@legozeke246 an ASU 85 is a TD that can be penned by most rank 2 vehicles. you wanna talk about stretches that comparison takes the cake. the M6A2E1 can sit behind a rock with it's cannon that one shots practically every time it pens with nothing but it's it's extremely strong and trolly turret sticking out. that small flat area you mentioned is extremely hard to hit and because of volumetric bounces most of the time. good positioning negates the front plate anyway. this vehicle would be monstrously over powered at any lower off a br even without the front plate and implying otherwise when you go on to say how driving it backwards make you practically invulnerable is dumb. you literally just proved my point. removing the front plat doesn't make it any less of a power house to anyone that knows how to play it. so yes it is overpowered and yes it would most certainly be at a lower br. next time you try prove someone wrong it might help if you don't inadvertently prove them right in the process

@@smolwavingsnail9028 well it’s good but it also comes into what you qualify as OP. It’s gun does fulfill two three I believe needed for a perfect gun. Pen, Post-Pen and reload. Reload being the item lacking. And yes the turret can be bouncy but that’s not in un heard of for that BR. You consider the vehicle vastly OP for 6.7. I think it’s good to great for 6.7 but not OP or requiring of a higher br. When you get down to it you essentially have T29 with a worse turret, worse reload, no side armor, a frontal plate that will only stop idiots with over tiered guns who don’t know where to aim and requires either playing hull down to take full advantage or playing in reverse which is considered unorthodox. Am I saying all this to say the M6A2 is bad or that I dislike it? No not all. I’m saying if the vehicle was any higher in it would get outclassed by it’s 7.0 counterparts. In my opinion it’s 6.7s are equal to it The T26E1-1 gives you a better top speed reload, side armor and similar gun The T26E5 is gives you a great reload and amazing armor (mostly) The M26E1 is a very quick M26 with a fantastic reload to pen ratio almost on par with the Pak43 Then there’s the T30, T34 and T29. All of which I’d say are better vehicles. I’m careful to not call vehicles OP when in fact a lot of vehicles are good and can be great when used to their advantages. If Gaijin regarded every vehicle as being “OP” when played to their advantage then we’d get a situation with T32s only 2-3 brs up and the one thing the vehicle does best is highly inconsistent and not worth bringing over more consistent vehicles of the same BR

@@legozeke246 you proved that it would be op if it was moved down. I agree it's ok where it is atm. Even though before my account got locked i did think it was fairly over powered. And im not even the greatest player. And yeh the reload was a bit horrendous. And the T26E5 is basically to a tiger 2 what a jumbo is to to a tiger one. the super pershing sucks imo and is over tiered now especially comapred to the T26E5 the extra plates do nothing because it's still not modelled correctly, gaijin doesn't understand how much velocity a shell loses when it hits something. So a tiger 2 can still pen it through both armour plates and the upper glacis which is total bullshit.

true

What's the recent incident?

@@thehumanoddity tanker leaked secret document i think

Designs that only existed on paper are ok if they actually existed on paper.

@@warpey5632 yes. _Looks at wot blitz and its dracula, smasher and whatever_

Where is the commander?

@@warspite7452 prolly fuckin other ships

Boat gang boat gang

@@inanisfrfr6 shiet

@@ijnhieibb5140 don't mind the fact my profile pic is warriors of chaos and not warspite

Ho229 too, actually.. not entirely fake, but combination of several prototypes J6K is also borderline fake as it was just a mockup irl, with entirely fake armament setup.

@@RFi731 if you have the horten than the bv-238 is a similar situation since it had no guns fitted IRL

At least the Horton actually flew unlike the none existent r2y2

@@RFi731 Actually the Horton 229 V3 has one built example which currently resides in the Smithsonian. If it were finished, it would have had even more features not shown in game.

because the historical mode was unbalanced, that's why nobody wanted to play it. Plus, only a small selection of tanks and maps made this game mode quite boring quite quickly.

@@robinkhn2547 yes, I think you're right there... the real world and gaming are two separate things nowadays!

The E-50 and E-75 never got past the hull designs with no turrets being designed or selected. The ones you see on models or ingame are usually based on the theoretical turret drawings made by historians.

I believe the E-75's turret in WoT is actually just the larger turret that was proposed for the Tiger II to fit the 105mm. The E-50's is a fake modified Schmalturm.

@@ConeOfArc yeah I’m saying along the lines of proposed ideas because the E series was also meant to improve upon the previous tanks (of course) as well as be cost effective but of course making a cost effective and better vehicle when you’re at the end of a war and losing isn’t gunna work all that well

@@KermitTheGamer21 yes I know of the E-50 turret being fake not bad for being fake tho

Built a 1:35 scale plastic model of the E-50 & E-75 by Trumpeter. They look neat and all, especially with the longer 88mm & 105mm guns but really cannot imagine these vehicles in actual combat.

We got things fromt the seventies fighting tiger Is. I recently found out the concept 3 was introduced in 1976 or so

AMX-30 1972 comes to mind....

why am i not surprised that the german main is complaining about "muh ww2 tanks fighting cold war tanks"

@@TheTankCrew the germans have a lot of overpowered vehicles, that are low in BR because they're driven by german mains with a collective IQ of 38. Half of you are brazilian wehraboos who still dont know where to shoot the jumbo after playing the tiger I for 200 games.

@@SteveIsHavingMC not really trying to be one of those guys but being uptiered and being dead weight isn't much fun. The long 88 is mediocre before being uptiered and the 105 isn't much better. Rather not spend 15 minutes trying to avoid being seen to fish for 1-3 sideshots in a heavy tank that has slow acceleration and mobility. It's not the worst till you play long range maps uptiered. You can't even run before someone gets their free SL.

It wasent a problem with overheating it was a problem that the king tigers needed to be modded to accept the SLA.16 Diesel Engine it was Air cooled not water cooled as well as a modular engine able to bring heavy vehicles like the jagdtiger and Kingtiger up to better speeds

I mean, some nations do need paper stuff like italy and japan

Said like this game is not broken

I wish they had like events just 1 time every year like the maus event so that players can get the tiger 105, panther 2, and flak panther

​@@AlanLin1995I mean, he said it would break the game "more", which implies the game is already broken to some degree. "He's illiterate" "He'll adapt" "He'll adapt to reading?" lmao

I'm still wondering why Gaijin didn't add any of the 9cm armed Leopard prototypes as a replacement for the fake Panther II. Along with adding the *real* Panther II at a lower BR.

I'm on your side here. I quite enjoy the more crazy prototypical AFV stuff and find it annoying when Gaijin picks and chooses rather than keep all guesstimate tanks. I especially found it humorous when, maybe due to the language barrier, they added the South African 'Concept 3' to the game with that name, a clear placeholder for something never built.

. . . . . . . Take them, you need some

,,,,,,,, You might need some of these to so here you go.

I typed it quick don't try to give me a grammar lesson

You understand exactly what I'm saying

the lego like game? Why...?

@@panzerlite8108 why not

What the game that breaks peoples computers When they fix that I might go back

@@humanhuman5024 wut?

@@person0-016 that game is known for breaking gaming PCs just randomly happened to few people and happened to me For me I was just playing and then my computer crashed I tried to turn it back on and nothing would happen Next day it turned on but my graphics card is broken and the computer is super slow This was not even a bad pc my pc ran battlefield 5 on high at 240fps and it ran total tank simulator perfectly as well before the crash When I looked back at the game I found a steam guide where people were saying exactly the same thing that happens with my pc where it just crashed and broke the next day

wt community be like:

i mean, he no longer "works" for Gaijin so he can now say whatever he wants to without getting called out by the company

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@@ceoofdazn7615 hello, imma yell at you for a valid reason. Okay. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT WHERE I CAN PUNCH SOMEONE IN THE FACE FOR STEALING MY KILL. Thank you that’s the only valid reason I have of yelling at you

oh how the turntables

Wargaming: Cuz I can make gods kill themselves! It is a game after all 😎 Gaijin (Daebom): WARGAMING-CHAN!!! >///< Gaijin became a human form snail girl. Thats how fallen Gaijin really went lol

It's a video game

@@Americanbadashh Yeah I know and a lot of them don't fit the VIDEO GAME BALANCING.

that maus misspelling hurts me on a personal level

The Japanese got a replacement for the Type 75 SPH, which is the tank destroyer researched above the Ho-Ri. The Type 99. That could be a good replacement.

it was a cruiser sub!

It does exist

@@chost-059 I always thought it was a paper tank that wasn't built

It exists. Theres an entire wikipedia article with its data.

@@awacsrazgriz967 aight.

The T30 is/was still extant, though not in the best shape. There's also footage of it firing on youtube here. The T30 definitely existed.

The T30 is very real. It was intended as a vehicle for dealing with bunkers iirc.

@@ConeOfArc Exactly

@@ConeOfArc Then how were they able to fit a 155-mm gun into a turret that was originally intended for 105-mm at all? Either this is magic, or the designers of the original prototype with a 105-mm one should have been shot for sabotage in the form of a deliberately irrational tank layout (remembering the amount of alterations that are usually required to install a gun one and a half times larger in caliber, normally this is, at least, strengthening the hull and total redesign of the turret, like it was with KV-2, T-44-122, T-34-100, Brummbar or Tiger 2-105, which was mentioned in this video for that exact problem). The only significant exception I know is IS, where it was possible to replace the 85-mm gun with a 122-mm relatively quickly, but this is rather the merit of an extremely successful and relatively compact 122-mm cannon of the Soviet model than the tank itself.

@@disketa25 There are 2 surviving prototypes displayed, one was in Detroit Arsenal in Warren, MI. Another is at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. This should be enough to convinced you that it was indeed a real tank

You mean Wargaming. Yes, World of Tanks is considered an Arcade p2w game. Wargaming made bets on that one game topping out it's two other games. And they do it pretty good. Gaijin mashed up only planes and tanks. When it's actually official, maybe they will implement all three categories in one big game. It might be hype for a while long, but it won't last that long. Wargaming knows it can't usually keep the hype going with one event or a tank. But they can keep you in the game for a VERY long time

Just an additional side note, you can easily mod the skin or HUD in WoT, WoWS, and WoWP

The E 100 was never a Tech Tree Vehicle, so not available for research and was only given out as a Reward for the Top X Players in Specific tournaments. The only way to get it know is to be one lucky fcker with a loot box, grabbing that 0.6% Chance or you buy it for roundabout 1800 Bucks from another player, thats happen to sell it. The Maus was available, got removed because of balance reasons and made short comebacks OveR events to give people the chance to research it.

Not sure where you heard that but that is not true. The Soviets found a Maus turret on a blown up Maus hull and put it onto a complete hull which only had a simulated turret weight

nicho immideatly jumping in when someone mentions italy, i see? keep up the good suggestions my guy :)

@@jackdiedtoday_ Thanks man haha! Gotta keep people informed ;)

I was mainly pointing out that the real thing was never built outside of mockup ones and that the photos we do have show it lacking the second launcher.

@@ConeOfArc As far as im aware there aren't any mock-ups, but yeah fair enough. Also Cone hmu if you wanna make a video on an Italian vehicle. :D