It actually technically hasn’t 🅱️een a decade, while sure, Fairy was announced in 2013, Fairy wasn’t playing until October 12th 2013 and we didn’t see how busted they were u til then. ☝️🤓
As weird as it sounds, Garchomp's toolkit is just too honest now. It can't set Spikes while attacking, it can't outspeed a lot of offensive Pokemon that OHKO him, it doesn't have crazy utility moves, it can't hope to withstand Kingambit Sucker Punch, it can't get a stat boost for free on switching in, it can't switch into every status move in the game, it can't double its team's defenses for 8 turns in a single click, it doesn't get a free 20% boost on all its moves by holding a signature item that can't be knocked off, it can't blow past everything in the game using only STAB moves, it can't threaten three different status effects at a time in a single move, it doesn't have any signature moves or items Abilities to make him better. You need to be exceptionally above curve if you wanna be OU nowadays. If you can't cheat the conventions of a Pokemon battle, you won't work in Gen 9 OU
these weirdly empy facet eyes, these creepily cute pair of vampire teeth, this uncanny fusion of an eevee with a butterfly... i was in team normal type, but i can see where the bug type folks were coming from
Garchomp was the "what were game freak thinking" pokemon in its debut generation. It was once the perfectly designed pokemon a symbol of power creep that got power crept itself.
Those three have been the OU kings since Gen 4 (well, Garchomp was banned, but it was OU for a fair bit early on). Telling someone in Gen 5 that them + Lando + Tyranitar would fall out of OU would be like trying to explain 9/11 to a Roman. It would just not compute.
@@1TieDye1 Because by gen 7 those mons have been on top for 4 generations!!! It started to look like they would always be, no matter what. But here we are...
Literally just one generation ago Lando T and OU were synonymous and Lando was THE OU pokemon people thought of when the tier was mentioned. The mon went from the King of OU to barely staying in the tier in just one generation.
Also there is a difference in the situation because it actually took some nerfs to take lando down. It lost knock off, defog, and toxic. Even with those moves it wouldnt be what it used to be but it sure as hell wouldnt be on track to uu
@@Cherry_Magenta I mean, yeah, that's what happens when half your kit gets taken away. Base Lando-T is still as busted as ever, he just got hard-nerfed by Gamefreak because of course they did.
@@blazefactor6849 not even that much. In natdex ou lando-t still has its entire kit, and while it's not close to UU there, it did drop to 14% usage and might drop even more. Gliscor buffs and mostly Great Tusk keep pushing it out.
We're truly reaching the end of an era for competitive pokemon with Lando-t probably dropping into UU next month to visit his pals Heatran and Garchomp
That's what the developers taking half your kit away does to a mon, especially given they've just left Great Tusk, which has an objectively far more stacked kit in the modern day. He's just not a favorite of theirs.
One more wrinkle to the tusk issue: its another ground type *weak to fairy*. So not only are they sharing a lot of redundant defensive properties (positive and negative), it’s even more severe than another ground type like Landorus or Gliscor
@@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441it was like Bulls Jordon to Wizard Jordon At one point the greatest pokemon of all time and then as it gets older becomes it becomes extremely inefficient.
@@ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 even with this said. I love garchomp and dragonair even if they arent good lol. wonder how skarmory that steel bird doing or ninjask
That was a sad story for Chomp and it's still unbelievable, but that possibility at the end of Lando dropping to UU seems even more absurd. More absurd than when we get to see Duraladon in little cup.
I love how dominant gliscor is now. If someone had told me a few gens ago that Gliscor is powercreeping landot and garchomp, I wouldn't have believed them.
Nah, I've loved Gliscor since Gen4, when they gave him poison heal it just made him perfect for me. I've been using him in showdown teams solidly since about 2015 to decent success.
@@DrDrao I refuse to use Landorus on principle, it always seemed lame and sweaty to use it just for the meta. Plus it's ugly, garchomp is a chad though (especially dragon tail).
I wanna take a moment and really appreciate the amount of editing that really went into this. As time goes one frezzai's editing gets better, but this video in particular really shone for me for some reason. Seeing the stats bump around the screen as they become relevant to the conversation just really does a great job of illustrating your points.
Sad that Garchomp fell, but with Corv also on the fall I've been using it a bit in ou and loaded dice scale shot beats a lot including glimorra, hopefully it rises again.
I was once describing to someone how much power inflation the new gen introduced by letting him know that Garchomp was now a support pokemon because it wasn't offensive enough. To anyone that hasn't played this gen, that sounds absurd.
I remember a False swipe gaming video from the start of Gen 9 where Garchomp was listed as the number one winner in the new game. But that was before the meta really developed with the DLC
It was alright enough as a somewhat fast and somewhat strong dragon who could also be a decent tank with a good support toolkit, then Home came, then Walking Wake and Enamorus dropped, both mons that mop the floor with Chomp, then the dlc dropped, and it just became completely outclassed by better ground types, it's still a good mon, but things just haven't been easy for the landshark, there's really nothing it does well enough in the current meta :(
@@YOSSARIAN313 I'm not sure chomp is ever gonna be truly top tier in ou, at least without a crazy signatute move or new busted ability, dd might patch things up, but i don't think it'll be enough It is still decent enough in vgc at least
the thing about lando is so much of its utility also just got deleted from its kit; part of it is dealing with great tusk, sure, but the reality is the thing that gave it so much usage in past gens took a seriously hard blow in this one
Power creep'll do that tona guy, that's just how these things go. Maybe Garchomp will find his way back to OU, maybe not. But that won't ever stop him from being a popular Pokemon.
Unfortunately, the only realistic way Garchomp could ever rise back is if a massive portion of the Pokémon that ruin it's chances leave the tier and/or it gets a giant buff in the next DLC. Neither of which seem likely at the moment
It's not JUST Power Creep. It's about Total Number of Mons too. Teams are the same size as they've always been. 6 mons. The more mons there are total, the larger the chance something slides. I realize they can adjust the thresholds, but even then, human psychology doesn't work that way.
Garchomp simply needs a new ability next gen - he originally had an advantage that suggested he be hit whether it’s rough skin or sand veil for evasion. I think Garchomp should be the first Pokémon to receive the special version of intimidate. It’s Cynthia’s ace. It has to be special. It also needs dragon dance tomorrow.
Chomp, Heatran and possibly even Lando eventually dropping to UU for the first time all in the same Generation is honestly pretty insane. Not really a fan of this trend of GameFreak removing moves that Pokemon have had for multiple generations.
Yeah Garchomp's biggest problem is it hasnt seen any new tools outside of Mega and spikes, introduced in the same gen as hrott. Headlong would be huge, alongside espeed. A redistribution of some of its spdef and/or def to give it 10 more speed would also be huge
@@royalgelly8948 might be interesting if it got a version of Extremespeed that had a tidy up/court change effect also. Like how running past leaves gets the wind to kick them up and move them this E.Speed could do the same to hazards.
Atleast Garchomp is too strong for UU. Is bad for him, but at least that shows that it's not totally him, is the Meta being really broken. Also, Heatran and Rotom-W doesn't seem to return to OU soon, unlike Garganacl who is likely getting banned or raising by usage. As a new player knowing the past of competitive Pokemon, this still hit me hard
I started playing pokemon in gen 4, for my entire time playing this game garchomp has been ou or higher. In the time it took for garchomp to fall off I've become an adult and started living on my own, this is really the end of an era
Garchomp dropping to uu, though not as bad as i make it out to be is the final nail in the coffin for the power creep problem. Literally its lowest stats are decent and the only real counter to a garchomp with a fast ice type at the time. He was very well meant to be the line between OU and ubers. It just now feels like the pokemon company thought it was the best idea to get pokemon that tickle that threshold of the top OU pokemon even back in gen 6, and now it feels like gens 1 though 8 OU pokemon that didnt have a great niche against a full teams worth of powerful gen 9 pokemon, then the powerhouses got bullied to UU, the okay ones going into RU, the ones that seem good on paper being in NU, and anything else being in PU or unranked.
Pre-DLC i saw a ton of success with lead hazard chomp, since every hamurott would play the game of hazard grabass and nearly die in the process from helmet+rough skin. even then, though, enamorus really sat on it, forcing tera or a death.
"Maybe Next month there will be a video called: The fall of Landorus" Please dear god let this happen because it'd be one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.
random but what is best garchomp set for gen 4 battle frontier? choice band/scarf outrage? yachee berry with swords dance and dragon claw? jolly or adamant? seems like you have to compensate with every build.
Freezai, do you have an editor or are you doing these by yourself? This is the format that made me love your content and lately the videos look so good. Seriously the best poketuber.
@@SammyK-jt3vv september's stats don't count due to new toy syndrome. it's a miracle he hung on. if october's stats put him under, fine, but i expect him to gain some usage back because he isn't fighting the return of a mon that hasnt been in the game in 4 years.
I think you should take Ice Spinner in mind as well. Before there wasn't a generic physical ice move you can give to lots of mons, and the only physical ice move that was somewhat widespread was Ice fang (which is terrible) or Triple Axel, which wasn't that widespread. Lando T kinda faces the same problem atm.
Why mention ice fang, but not ice punch? Not that femiliar with meta games past gen 3, but ice punch has higher base power and common enough on two legged pokemon (and metagross).
@@Dragonoid269 I actually confused Ice Punch with Triple axel, as the only highly used pokemon in gen 8 I can think of using Icepunch are Ttar, Buzzwole, Nidoking, Weavile and Kommo-O. The rest either have no space for Ice punch or can't use it effectively. Ice Spinner can be used on way more mons.
