Before anyone says anything like "what about calyrex shadow?" I just wanted to say that it isn't technically in the ubers. it in ag which is basically ubers for ubers.
It is mildly frustrating that (for understandable RU-vid reasons) the name of the video doesn't suggest that non-Ubers legendaries would be disqualified. I think it definitely should have at least gotten a mention/explanation in the video, if only for newer/outside viewers who may not be familiar with the idea of AG.
Maybe it also exists as a soft counter to Ditto? If Ditto is faster with Imposter, wouldn't it transform into the baby form before the slower Terapagos uses IT'S ability?
Another honorable mention is Kyurem-Black with a usage rate of 9.6% (Rank 14), just shortly below Giratina-O and above Pokemon like Eternatus (one of the BIG 3). While it's not amazing, you have to give credit to my guy who has been struggled for most of it's life being at OU and now holds a solid place at probably the most powercreep state of UBERS that we've seen.
Not sure what they look like in the metagame but I can’t imagine that origin form palkia is terrible, if nothing else it looks like it’d be good on rain surely. Normal palkia though is powercrept to shit, 100 speed really doesn’t mean shit anymore and both forms of Dialga still don’t have a recovery move so those I can understand
There Origin forms should've at least gotten different abiliies like how Giratina Origin gets Levitate, it's half the reason Giratina Origin gets used in the first place... Multiscale for Dialga and Adaptability for Palkia would've done nicely.
@@Bash_the_Bash You might as well just slap a Choice Scarf onto Palkia, things have gotten speed-crept even more then they've been power-crept and the boost to 120 speed on Origin is 11 years too late...
honestly i find tera terapagos way cuter at least and as someone who loooves terapagos always tries to use it on my team i hate the baby form bc if i have it as my first party member and try to auto battle it goes in and out of transformation ever. single. time. it's so annoying
I have got to say your inclusion of text on move names like "It's earthquake from wish" is very funny. Seeing you get better at editing and adding these fun little jokes over time has been really cool.
I feel like legendaries without an amazing ability or signature move are being left behind by legendaries with these things. Dialga and Palkia are the pokemon gods of time and space, so honestly, I say screw balance, lets go for insanity. Lets give spacial rend the ability to bypass protect and hit users switching out, and give Roar of Time the ability to hit consecutive turns in a row, like a future sight that also deals damage the turn its used. Shadow force can become base 150 power, and Giratina can get multiscale. Power creep isn't going away, so we might as well make the gods of pokemon completely busted.
I don't pay attention to Ubers, so I had assumed Zacian was an Anything Goes 'mon. The fact that it's been eclipsed by the S/V box legendaries is a testament to the levels of power creep (as well as the nerfs it received). It's crazy also how Koraidon and Miraidon don't counter each other in the same way as P Groundon/P Kyogre since their field effects don't cancel one another.
@@bdellovibrioo5242 1 v 1 it probably already does, the bikes viability is like Groudon and Kyogre so being stacked is like a luxury rather then a necessity. Though going from 170 Atk and plus 1 every switch to 150 Atk and a plus one per battle makes a huge difference in what it can and can't muscle through.
That job's since been taken over by Calyrex-Shadow, who received a grand total of zero relevant nerfs going into Gen 9, plus Tera letting it clear past the Dark and Ghost-types that were supposed to limit it
I'm most surprised by the fact that Zacian crowned even exists in Scarlet and Violet. It would have been so easy to remove the problem by just not having Rusted Sword available in the games, but no. And the second most surprising thing is that it's not the single most busted mon anymore.
It's severely nerfed by the fact that Intrepid Sword only gave the 1+ Boost the first time it enters the field. You now have to commit to offense once you send it out or switch out to waste its attacking prowess, giving it a severe enough risk factor to be considered Ubers now.
@@spookyscarylamppost3431also 20 base attack is huge considering that attack is amplified by intrepid sword and swords dance. It might not seem like a lot but you are losing out on tons of damage. Pretty sad to nerf him like this, they should have just removed rusted sword and kept it the same.
@@The_LightlessBase Zacian was still an absolutely bonkers Pokemon in Gen 8 since Intrepid Sword worked the entire battle. That guy made it to AG as well. Also Zacian without the sword is really ugly
Use choice scarf or choice band and you have an even more ridiculous Zacian. No need of rusted sword. (It's steel a bit weaker with no steel type and weaker stats but +1 choice banded gen 8 Zacian-hero is way more broken than gen 9 Zacian-crowned)
I think part of sucker punch not being as common is a combined result of Calyrex Shadow Rider being banned and Yveltal not existing this generation. Yveltal might as well have sucker punch be its secondary signature move. For those who might not be familiar with Ubers, Yveltal was basically one of the only things keeping Shadow Rider from shredding through the entire metagame in Gen 8, alongside Marshadow and other priority users. Combined with the fact that it got Draining Kiss, and the existence of tera, Shadow Rider (who should've been banned from Ubers last gen anyway) becomes even more absurd, with its greatest counters not present.
yveltal was not only an incredible caly-s check, it also kept ndm from wreaking havoc. like freezai said, one of the big reasons ndm is so fearless this gen is that yveltal isn't around to keep the peace. once caly-s got released in gen 8, yveltal was at close to 100% usage on teams due to its ability to keep caly-s and ndm from getting out of control. there are also almost no sucker punch users sturdy enough to contend with ubers top threats. you have your frail sucker punch users like chien-pao and darkrai, but they really can't do anything else besides sucker punch twice (with sash) and then get blanked anyway because of tera. or, you have kingambit who can actually contend with the power level, but it has fewer entry points and is much less able to freely express its power because it's a guaranteed 2HKO by any unboosted neutral hit from a premier offensive threat. there are almost no dark types able to contend with ubers power level this gen, so sucker punch takes a back seat. there are also very few ghost types able to break into ubers unlike some other generations, so dark type coverage is much less useful. gambit functions as a meaningful barrier to caly-i and a vague response to ndm, as well as a very decent response to tera fairies and arceus fairy, but it's a very easily exhaustible resource. so you're going to get very few sucker punches/iron heads out of it. most players would rather forego the iron head/sucker punch viability of gambit and take much bulkier/more powerful threats against these pokemon. like, ndm and zacian-c beat caly-i, so why not just use your ndm/zacian-c? tera fairies and arceus fairy all can be answered with threats like zacian-c, ndm, ho-oh, and eternatus (depends on set and which pokemon tera'd). or, you can break through a lot of these situations with the pure power of koraidon and miraidon as well, depending on team core. also I really need to say, the level of miraidon's power in ubers is crazy. arceus-ground, gliscor, lando-t, ting-lu, and clodsire would all drop by at least one tier of viability if it wasn't for miraidon. these pokemon do in fact all have more roles and functions than just being a miraidon check, but the main reason most of them have a proper entry point at all is being able to blank an electro drift and then live at least 1 draco meteor. otherwise, the sheer power of pokemon like e-killer arceus or caly-i switching into them is very much not worth the risk. koraidon can at least be mitigated with checks like zacian or ndm, which are already top threats in their own right, but miraidon necessitates bringing specific pokemon that can take advantage of their immunity to either revenge kill, set up hazards, or threaten it out.
@@ihavethebrainofarat2309 if the legendaries this gen weren't so strong, ndm might have been put up for suspect test with the extent to which it's usually best answered with another ndm lmao
Genuinely I think its baby form exists exclusively because of the anime. Would be harder to have it wandering around the airship getting into hijinks if it were its Tera form at all times
@@BronzeR3 Tera Shift is one of the few abilities not negated by Neutralizing Gas. From Bulbapedia: Tera Shift cannot be copied by Trace, Power of Alchemy, or Receiver. Tera Shift cannot be replaced by Lingering Aroma, or suppressed by Neutralizing Gas.
Ever since Gen 8, defensive Ho-oh has been one of my favorite Pokemon to use of all time. Single-handedly one of my reasons to play in Ubers metagames - in a meta full of absurdly high power levels, Ho-oh has long since been a generally good defensive answer in some of the worst cases, such as Zacian-Crowned (even in Gen 8, when he was legal) and Koraidon's reign over the tier. Sacred Fire burns, pivoting, Defog... Ho-oh can do all of it. It's such a nice amount of versatility to have, and Regenerator was the perfect buff to give it before Heavy-Duty Boots. Now a Ho-oh with Timbs is more bulky than Lugia could ever hope to be (sorry, old friend...) Ho-oh may not be the *star* of many teams, but it's peak consistency and I appreciate all its hard work. It's like the Lando or Great Tusk of Ubers - a defensive backbone that helps anchor your powerful threats. EDIT: Ho-oh lost Defog and Roost oh dear... at least Recover still exists. Ho-oh also has a lot of niche tech options so I'm sure that 4th move slot will act like a toolbox of sorts for Gen 9 Ubers players. Will-o-Wisp is useful for more consistent burns too. Miraidon definitely proves to be an issue, but Tera-Ground is one of several potential options to answer it, as well as other defensive staples.
Although not banned, the raidons are the most impactful new pokemon we've gotten to ubers since gen 8 calyrex shadow who made almost everyone use yveltal to counter him.
This is an excellent video. I love hearing about Legendaries being good, it really adds that gravitas of _legends_ that makes you feel the power of the titans you're using
For the reason why the baby form of Terapagos exists its likely either because the story of the DLC changed and initially you were supposed to evolve terapagos through some means or it just exists fo merchandising purposes.
Very cool. You mentioned that Arceus Normal is ranked lower hecause people choose other forms as well. Where would Arceus rank if you added up all of his type forms? #1 ?
Terapagos - have baby form and its own base stats despite not usable in battle Koraidon/Miraidon - in-game data have ride form to be usable in battle, but not able to be use in normal gameplay
People talk about needing a pokemon that sets Trick Room with its ability, similar to drizzle setting rain. IMO if that would be too powerful, I'd say complicate it slightly: Terratrickster: "When one of your Pokemon would set weather or terrain effects, instead set up Trick Room" Or if this pokemon's stats are modified by an opponent, or something along those lines. The version above only works in doubles, and requires pairing with someone else who has a weather effect. The stats version depends on the opponent having intimidate etc, and gives them more power. This isn't necessarily how it HAS to be, but I'd start with that type of nuanced design.
Someone said way back in the Garchomp video that Garchomp was too honest for OU anymore. I think that much the same with Palkia & Dialga. I'd love to see your thoughts on why they're such dishonourable mentions.
Great video. I am surprised to see dusk Maine, so high up there. He always seemed somewhat busted, but it was never clear because he was always defensive.
I'm surprised to not see groudon at all, you mean to tell me a bulky beast like groudon who benefits from sun already being key in the format and gained SPIKES isn't in the top 10??
groundon is doing fine, but struggles with having slightly weak stats. Its a ground type that struggles to check Miradon since it really struggles to absorb draco meteor more then once. Since it doesn't do a great job at checking miradon many teams will opt to take another ground type instead thats better at that job. Groundon also needs to rely on precipitate blades, which is a good move but its inaccurate which makes running groundon less appealing. Finally it has a hard time picking its moves, it needs blades and at least one of spikes or stealth rocks which gives it only 2 slots left to fill in gaps. For example a groundon running wilo wisp instead of stone edge lets oh ho come in completely for free; but if it gives up wisp for edge then it lets Arceus set up in front of it.
Imo Koraidon is really good because of tera fire, if you ignore tera, Miraidon is the best. Tera fire turns your 4x weakness to fairy and your 2x weakness to ice, into resistances. But also you gain a burn immunity on your physical attacker, and gain STAB flare blitz In the sun.
Zacian is not the "perfect offensive pokemon" imo, it's hard stopped by a lot of things this gen and it's not gonna sweep. What it is is a weird role compression offensive-defensive mon, that stops choiced korai/mirai from clicking dragon moves and acts as a Ekiller, Deoxys, Flutter Mane, Iron Bundle and Chien-Pao check.
If Xerneas were added to SV, do you guys think it would go to AG? Because i did the calcs and... +2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 206-243 (51.7 - 61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
@@howisthis8849zacian is also 2HKOed by tera fairy modest +2 fairy aura boosted moonblast and Xerneas has 18% chance of OHKO ho-oh with thunder after geomancy (not to tera fairy isn't the only tera type she could use)
Terapagos mostly seems to be used as a utility Pokemon, not a sweeper. I don’t think anyone thinks a sweeper role would be good. Meanwhile, Terapagos has a lot of really good utility moves on top of having large bulk and a strong defensive ability
Koraidon being #1 while scarf flutter exists is crazy, it'll definitely go down in usage when megas and primals come back though, P-Kyo will do a number on that thing while Miraidon will probably synergerize with it way more with 100% accurate electric terrain boosted thunders
@@No.1GodzillaGlazer yeah Koraidon got banned in format with Megas and Primals. It loses Z-Crystals and Tera but Kori is not really dying to use those. Only way he definitely drops down in usage is if a stupid strong fairy type is added or Kori gets a direct nerf. Otherwise dude isn’t dropping that much in usage.
I'm convinced he pronounces Pokémon names slightly differently on purpose so that the video gets more comments which in turn pushes the video in the algorithm If not then you will still get +1 comment from me, ggwp
I picked Scarlet for 3 reasons: 1. Koraidon looks cooler. 2. Professor Sada looks cooler. 3. Scarlet looks cooler. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that Scarlet is the better game for version exclusives despite Violet selling more copies.
forme changing abilities (like Tera Shift, Stance Change, Shields Down, Multitype, Schooling, etc.) cannot be deactivated. You can turn off Tera Shell's effect though.
It generally still is consider worse then C-shadow due to the sheer speed and great offensive typing it posses, and with tera now to break through dark types. But it got booted out of Ubers to Anything goes in smogon singles
Since entry hazard damage is based on HP%, does Terapagos take a little less damage from them since it starts the fight in baby form then transform to the main form?