My guess on the brahmin skull was that it was actually a pre-war cow skull that the player identifies ad a brahmin skull. After all, brahmin are mutated cows.
WildHogKing well he's been living post apocalypse for however long and has been hearing them called brahmin for however long. Hes probably also going through some shit mentally so maybe pre war was fuzzy or some shit.
I was going to suggest the same, Oxhorn is presuming that this skull is from a brahman. I would argue that this could be a skull of a cow from before the apocalypse. I would like to know what differentiates a brahman from a cow (besides the number of heads).
Given Brahmin are for all intents and purposes just be two headed cows, I'd imagine the skulls are more or less identical. My guess is Bethesda just didn't want to make a new object for one misc instance, and justified it by allowing the player to piece together that this was all pre-war.
I'm sure someone can make a mod that renames that specific skull if it annoys them that much. Maybe make it a Unique Cow Skull that deals extra melee damage just for kicks.
you are aware of the fact that the phantom isn't arranging skeletons right? 200 years ago, in all likelihood, those would have been fresh, albeit now rotting, corpses, making you realise how horrifying this set up was meant to be for his dear detective
Well the guy that knocks on the door right at the beginning of the game is from your timeline and later he is a goul. I send him to sanctuary and someone kill him. Wtf? My old bud. Prbly that minutemen dude.
Always just assumed the glowing one was the serial killer who had turned ghoul and continued his killing spree after the bombs dropped. Explaining the brahmin skull and radiation barrels. Radiation heals ghouls but also turns them feral faster.
hancock has an interesting thought in this sewer. (and everywhere else in the game honestly) he says people must have clammored to get into sewers like that when the bombs fell. i think that explains the ghouls in here. you should do companion insight videos.
Now we need to figure out how...DETECTIVE NICKY, YOU AND OTHERS ARE GOING TO HELP EACH OTHER DEDUCE THIS PREDICAMENT!!! I, on the other hand, have to help a settlement, it’s already marked on my map, so I know where to go.
(1) There is a skeleton without an X just inside the entry that is blocked behind a wall - one of many references to The Cask of Amontillado. (2) The one with the fish has 3 X's, because of the worm, the fish, and the man (who isn't using the skull as bait, but is catching his own skull with the fish as bait). It is an homage to the food chain - or the turducken - hard to know which. (3) The guy on the mat is near a grocery cart in a dead end - a commentary on the homeless - who are so often serial killer's first human targets. (4) The two on the mat together is a clear homage to The Notebook. (5) You can't complain about the Brahmin skull - because Bethesda consistently breaks lore in this way. You are routinely in facilities that have not been touched since before the war and finding chems and food stuffs that only existed well after. They simply haven't cared enough to do a "pre war loot list" and a "post war loot list" for each category of loot (foodstuffs, chems, etc). As such, the Brahmin skull is just easier than having a new item in the game for a one-off gag. Or, if you prefer, the Fen Phantom could have been in his lair when the bombs dropped and continued his work for some time afterwards - part of Boston's extended serial killer connections. (6) The detective isn't on the manhole - because the detective is kidnapped by the Phantom. That is, most likely, the detective's partner staying outside to make sure the Phantom cannot escape. (7) The box of hands is in reference to what this entire dungeon is an homage to - The Manhunter from 1986 (the prequel to Silence of the Lambs) - a movie where the guy who would later go on to fame on CSI goes to Hannibal to figure out a serial killer who has a hand collection. (www.imdb.com/title/tt0091474/) Go watch it, and you will better understand the sewer. Do you see? Do you see? - The Tooth Fairy
Oakspar Oakspar I don't think it's his partner, the detective was to come alone so by that logic he could have had a load of police waiting at the surface and the killer would be fine with it.
+sam raynes You may be right. They manhole is marked off and there is a tool box there - so it could be that he was just a utility worker there to try and open the manhole cover when the bombs fell (you would have to believe that the Phantom would have a way to lock it shut). After all, we have no idea how long before the bombs fell that this all happened.
Actually,it's cause brahmin skulls and cow skulls are basically the same and the idea is usually that someone who's never seen a cow would think that a cow skull was a brahmin skull. That,of course,doesn't make sense in FO4 since the PC is from before the war and would know what a cow is. But Bethesda does make these little mistakes every so often.
Bhamin Skull is just a cow Skull, but ask any waste-lander wtf a cow is. Brhamin is just easier then renaming it and making people think it is a quest item. in the wasteland, this is just a Brhamin skull (Which is literally just a mutated cow so I fail to see the problem) It is literally just ease of inventory stacking at that point. Also, the Three Xs... WORM FISH AND FISHER YOU DAFT MAN! "Dis is jhust anudda ovasite bah buthasda!" No, you are just slow. Also "You hurt me, so I hurt you" Dude, the guy is channeling Buffalo Bill to hell and back, seriously, watch Silence of The Lambs and Red Dragon. Also watch Se7en and you will understand this can be everything BUT killing the detective.
I thought it was just an unfinished quest for Nick's Detective Agency. I thought maybe they planned to have like a big case you chase leads for across many smaller cases, but never got it finished.
fun fact nicks original (pre synth) character had a case you can follow by collecting information on every police precinct not gonna tell you how that one ends though but does explain how nick became a synth
uh there's a theory about children's skeletons in fallout being that aren't any anywhere, due bethesda wanting to avoid shit from the public, they instead put teddy bears. while some are put up in comical fashion, there some in areas where kids have died or thought to have died usually laying down.
***** you are right, there are holes in this theory, it's not even mine I just heard it was fairly popular one as to why there was a lack of child sized skeletons. Duchess I know the skeleton's you speak of and to me they seemed to be the same size as every other skeleton. That's just my opinion, and I've only played on console so I have no way of checking the size other than dragging another skeleton from a different area which I don't think you could do in fo3. Also if I'm not mistaken, I believe there is a computer entry or holotype nearby implying those are the teachers of the school. It's been a while since I've traversed the capital wasteland, while 3 dog shouts and howls at me and calls me a child. lol
this is probably coming very late, but after rewatching this video I came to a possible realization that while not much help in uncovering the mystery adds a certain grim detail to the story, when the detective arrived to go through the sewers and find the phantom it is much more likely that they would have been seening bodies in various states of decay and not the skeletons that we find 200 years later.
In a sewer it's likely that skeletonization could occur in mere weeks or months. Basically things would be the same as if they were in a swamp. Granted, things would be rather grotesque for some of the more recent killings.
I always thought the detective was the one who died trying to enter the sewer. Because the holotapes are still left exactly where the phantom placed them for the detective to find upon entering. So he must not have listened to them. So he must not have made it. But then again, Bethesda likes to leave them like that as if they were meant for us, not the person in the stories.
Theres a number of named Detectives mentioned at the ration station south of Diamond city. Also I seem to recall theres a mention of a serial Killer in the case files in one of the Police stations
Oxhorn, I found a secret regarding the Phantom. In Nuka World's Kiddy Kingdom, there are 3 teddy bears with knives in them. On the wall is three X's... What're your thoughts on that?
The teddy bears could be surrogates for children/babies and the real killer might not leave X's for them as they would not be as challenging a kill as an adult. Hence, he would view the kill as only a necessity for concealment rather than a true target. But the ones in Nuka World could simply be a copycat, or just a "prank" used to scare little kids into thinking the Fens Phantom was among them. Or... maybe the Fens Phantom really didn't die in the sewer. Because, How would anyone know about the X's to replicate them if they weren't down in the sewer... Just a lot of possibilities and "what if's"...
I played this a while ago but I remember after you walk into a room in the end, it traps you in or something doesn't it? It's where the carpet and blood stain are. I'm probably remembering this wrong but if the last holotape was in there then couldn't that mean the Phantoms plan was to lure and trap him in that room? Then he's down there with the Phantom forever I suppose. But since there's no body in there I have a feeling the detective never showed up, since non of the holotapes had been moved. The detective never picked them up, usually there on a NPC body if they had been listening to them. I feel like the detective was possibly that skeleton outside, and he never made it. And the Phantom waited and waited for eternity for his special someone to arrive and be trapped with Him... but he never came, and the Phantom became a Ghoul. Though once again I'm not sure. I had played a long time ago.
I think the Phantom and the Detective are one in the same; it's in the way he talks to the detective in the holotapes. He could be a detective wrestling with the killer he finds himself to be (schizophrenic/split personalities), and in the end, as the holotapes tell us, the Phantom takes over, forever. Or it could be that the Phantom invented the the detective in his own mind; the detective did come alone. I would imagine that the Phantom grew tired of no one admiring his gallery, and he created another personality to reintroduce the excitement of those kills.
Interesting theory, the Phantom mentions that if the Detective didn't come alone he would already be gone but there are no cameras. Perhaps the Phantom personality knows about the Detective but not vice versa. If the Detective isn't alone he doesn't become the Phantom and so he would only ever "meet" him when he is alone
Cat and mouse, the Phantom is playing with the detective and wants him (the detective) to chase him (the phantom). The fact that they're the same person doesn't matter from the detective's perspective as he isn't aware and makes things more interesting from the phantom's.
this is the definition of reaching. But in all respect your theory isn't right or wrong because it's all speculation unless Bethesda explains it. However on the wikia and other various websites the majority claims The Phantom is the skeleton goosing the other skeleton on the mattress....insinuating the Det. Was female. Both theories are entertaining to say the least.
@@Little-She-Devil yeah, the phantom said that if he was there alone, that the phantom would still be there but if he wasn’t, then he would already be gone, would a murderer split personality reveal himself to the other cops, the detective would be in form at that time.
I wish it had to do with Nick somehow. Would've loved to hear his commentary on it. I dunno, I kind of like the idea of the detective dying before entering the sewer from the bombs. He spent so much time chasing the Fens Phantom - and yet, in the end, he was so close but yet so far. And he died never seeing the killer face to face.
Brahmin (actually brahman) is a breed of cattle in our world so if that's the only breed that survived the bombs then that could be the reason the skull is a brahmin skull. Secondly, Fallout is set in an alternate universe, not ours, so cattle there could have always been called brahmin, becoming 2-headed after the bombs but not getting a new name.
Maybe the Skull eating the fish on the fishing pole is the guy with the Brahmin Skulls head. Or maybe it's just a regular cow skull and the sole survivor recognizes it as a Brahmin Skull.
Deathclaws were military experiments created by genetically engineering an ordinary Jackson's Chameleon. Gatorclaws were done in the Safari Zone cloning facility. They were the result of >200 years of experimentation by a ghoul, but were ultimately a failure as they did not listen to commands (just like Deathclaws)
i think the X's correspond to how many lives were taken to create one of the phantoms pieces, like with the strollers, there are four X's for the four women, and as for the three X's, id have to say, one x was for the skeleton body, one for the skull which might have been from someone else, and for the third one, i think the killer decided to count the fish as a life taken, as for the guy with the Brahmin skull (which is likely just a cow skull but Bethesda forgot to change its name) he probably didn't kill the cow to get the skull, so he doesn't count it for an x
Bethesda's use of the brahmin skull reminds me of the terminals on the chinese sub. They are all robco. I just assume the level designers often want things the artists don't have time to make, so they just grab the closest thing and use it as a stand in. No one wanted to make a cow skull that would only be used once, is my guess.
Wouldn't the hammer to the head contradict the last tape? Why such an "easy" death for the detective? I'd like to think that the detective overwhelmed the phantom and hammered him - then, probably because he was dying due to several mutilations, he ironically put the X near the phantom's corpse. Instead of dying he turned to a ghoul though. That's the magic: There are no definitives here. Just imagination.
I disagree. The holotape heavily implies that the altercation did not go the way that the Phantom had planned. A hammer to the skull was his only option to see his plan come to fruition. Also, if the detective had defeated the Phantom, then how did the Phantom record the holotape?
i believe the phantom recorded the holotape after he knocked out the detective and when the phantom went to place the holotape for the detective to listen to the detective snuck up behind him and killed him with the hammer then marked the X as an ironic gesture to his foe
While watching this video I also started to think that the glowing one would be the remains of the murderer because sometimes bethesda puts emphasis on a ghoul to show that it’s important by making it a glowing one, for example, in the Captain Cosmos creation club dlc they made the actor who played Captain Cosmos become a glowing one.
I know I'm soo late because I've just started the game and my conclusion for this lore is, the Skelton with a hammer in his skull is the detective and for the phantom he became a glowing one after consuming radiation from the barrel in his little operation room. I think the two men came into a fight with each others and the detective severely injured the phantom but the serial killer was able to knock the detective and kill him with the hammer and with that he completed his final strike and put the last X sign next to the detective, after that the serial killer couldn't heal himself so instead he decided to become a ghoul. My conclusion is based upon yours and this is the only scenario was there.
OxHorn. What do you do for a living? What ever it is, quit that job and become a detective. You were given around 25 remains and some voice recordings and could put this together. Oh, and when you become a detective, don't follow serial killers underground.
I did find his investigation to be rather enthralling and intuitively done, that being said you can read essentially any other comment on this video to see why many of the general public would beg to differ.
Well the last bit about ghouls just felt wrong though, since im pretty sure the whole ghoul thing was unknown/secret/experimental (atleast now it seem to be thanks to Bethesda...) before the war.
couldn't the three x's be that three lives were taken to create the art, and that the skull is from one person, the body is from another, and the last x is the fish
I'm happy to agree with your theory for the most part, thought the final tape made me think a bit when I did this run. To me, it sounded a bit like the 3 preceding tapes were pre-bomb detonation, and the fourth was post detonation, with the detective in the sewer perhaps very shortly after. To me, it sounded like the phantom was taping that with the detective strapped to his gurney, doing the infamous 'super villain' long-winded explanation, but has his final plan interrupted by the bombs going off.
the skeleton on top of the sewer was definitely someone running for shelter and was too late imo. i always knew the glowing one was either the detective or the killer. this was my favorite little 'dungeon' in fo4, just random lore that i dig. good work ox
Thats a dumb theory because the "X's" are made by chalk, the pencil couldn't made marks on that kind of concrete and thats random loot, in my playthrough i din't had a pencil.
OR... OR! What if the phantom is the one who was bludgeoned to death with the hammer... after creating the final holotape. Perhaps the glowing one is the detective, and the phantom merely lured him there to be trapped with him forever. Maybe that's why he wanted him to come alone... because if he had brought friends, the trap wouldn't have worked. Maybe he forced the detective to live with killing him until he turned into a ghoul and eventually turned feral... trapped with his corpse... then as time passed and people raided the sewers for supplies, or turned into ghouls themselves, the the sewer structures degraded, compromising the integrity of the phantom's make-shit prison, allowing you to find the detective and finally put him out of his misery. Yeah? Ever stop to think of it THAT way?
Cheshire I mean like, part of the cases that you find in his office in Diamond City. Because I hadn't done all when I discovered that sewer, so I thought I had discovered something too early (which feels like it would be typical of Bethesda for some reason).
godess rainy Same voice as who? Doc Krocker? Yeah. Back then, I didn't know there was only one case that you could actually pursue :/ Thought Bethesda got lazy on that.
very good, I have seen other videos about this subject, but you came up with some thoughts I had not heard before. And I think you may be right about the glowing one and skeleton with the hammer in it's head. I need to point out one thing tho, Brahman do exist they just only have one head....so, a skeleton with a Brahman head is not out of place. Over all I enjoyed this video , keep 'em coming.
On the ghouls in the sewer thing, I think in fallout 3 someone says that feral ghouls don't like the light so they tend to stay indoors or in the sewers.
Hey Oxhorn...love the videos however it's not the first time you brought up Bethesda not putting in corpses or skeletons of children. For obvious reasons they don't put them in however child skeletons are marked with teddy bears in these non main quest related exploration stories.
at this point if Bethesda themselves don't say it you can regard all other things speculation. Of course they will not say such a thing because it is up to the players interpretation, they want every experience to be yours, the players. But on the subject of speculation this dungeon in this video is a good one to test it as it contains several teddy bears in only one place...next to the carriages where the phantom killed the mothers.
i’m way late to fo4 content but i gotta comment, the way i interpreted this one was that the Glowing One was the detective. when you walk in, it’s in the right hand “room” that looks like it might have had a closed door at one time. behind there is a radioactive barrel with a radaway baggie on top of it, and a bed. i figured the phantom locked the detective in, left him with radaway to be ironic, and played neighbours considering his “office” is right next door. he wouldn’t have to know about ghouls, just that radiation plus limited medicine is a hell of a way for your arch-enemy to go. accounts for the sadism and for the tape claiming the detective would be with him forever - he literally locked him in. til death do they part, etc... oh and the room with the unaccounted-for X marks is also full of ghouls so maybe he thought he killed the people before they turned into ghouls but they had just enough kick in them for the radiation to work its sinister magic? hmm less believable though anyway just my humble onion on the matter. luv oxhorn videos but this one i looked at a little differently!
Maybe the phantom did love the detective so he set that whole thing up and waited at the end. But the detective took to long so he looked out of the sewer and saw the detective. So in his grief he marked 2 x's on the wall and killed himself. But that's just ,a theory a game theory
i think the guy laying on the outside of the hide is the detective. the guy with the fishing pole in his hands marks the second x and the skull biting into the fish marks the third. i think a serial killer drawing pictures with skeletons would draw this special picture with a detective he baited so hard. the guy with the hammer in his head could be only another victim, theres nothing that makes him special.
Maybe the detective, possibly never entered the sewer and was killed in the Great War, unless the detective put the holotapes back where they were instead of taking it in as evidence?
My guess is that the detective was the one that smashed the killer with the hammer, and then in an act of revenge or ironic turnaround, the detective marked him with an X in a different shape, then he remained there in the sewer because he couldn’t accept how he had killed someone so brutally and then used his MO
I have a question. I was just playing Fallout 4 and currently doing the mission where you kill the courser in Greenetech Genetics. While I was exploring, I noticed something on the chalkboard on I think the 4th floor of the building located in a small room lined with computers. Now the strange thing is that on the chalkboard there are three x's, much similiar to the one's that are here. Do you think Something's related here or it's just Bethesda reusing textures for the sake of it?
Thank you so much. I just got a minutemen quest that led me to the Fens Street Sewer, and I felt like I was having a hard time putting the pieces together after I finished exploring. This makes so much more sense now. Thank you! So glad you already had this explanation uploaded :D
First of all, awesome, well thought out video. I dig the amount of supporting evidence/logic you try to give to the situation. Now, I don't know why everyone just assumes that body with the hammer though the head is a man, if you thought it was at all possible that the dead couple could be the killer and the detective. The affectionate tone could be for any number of reasons, and the detective being a woman could still be it, even though that hammered body didn't have any female clothes. Lots of them didn't have any. Also, unless it's stated somewhere, Brahman must have existed in the fallout universe before the bombs fell, just not the double headed Brahman they became appear as once we come along. Finally, I wish, if the hammered person at the end was the detective, Bethesda hadn't decided that the killer should put the X above the body to make the story a little clearer. Now it's just murky, and requires this kind of theorizing, without that feeling of satisfaction. Great video. I do love theory videos that are this well thought out.
the one with the brahmin skull - i at least think this is true - probably is just a regular cow's skull, yet they did not change the name of the item. but that's just my idea ;P
Choosing the name phantom also naturally brings up the thought of the phantom of the opera who's most recognizable feature is the disfigured face covered in that mask. Disfigured faces is pretty much a perfect description of a Ghoul.
I just watched this again and thought I'd make a comment. I believe you're theory of the glowing one and the skeleton with the hammer in it's head being the serial killer and the detective is likely correct. The Brahmin's skull is just a cow's skull. You're getting too caught up on the title of the item. I'm sure they didn't feel it necessary to make a skull specifically for a cow for this one display. It's not meant to be a break in lore, it's just a case of them wanting the player to use their imagination rather than relying on the title of the item. As for the fishing skeleton I can't imagine a serial killer wanting to take credit for the death of a fish and a worm like someone else suggested...unless he did it as something of a joke. Perhaps there's a message in it as well, that being he feels no more remorse for killing a human than he does for killing a fish or live bait. That said the use of multiple bodies to make the display is just as likely.
There are a lot of oversights like this in Fallout 4. For example when you go to the Nuka Galaxy location you will go into the Vault bit of it and there will be Mutfruit, Tato and Corn growing in these plant pods.
Don't know if anyone else mentioned it, but an X is used to Mark strikes in bowling, and there is evidence in the area that the phantom at least liked bowling (several pins can be found, including some set up with a ball). What does it mean? Well, I don't know. Perhaps the phantom marks each kill as a strike, but perhaps he's marking how many strikes it took to kill the victims (which might explain the Fisher having three).
This kind of reminds me of something you would see in one of the Arkham games. Like, a serial killer leaving recordings for a detective? That sounds like a Batman villain
He is mimicking the voice of the serial killer "The Tooth Fairy" in Manhunter (1986) - the movie this sewer is an homage to. It is the same voice that Ted Levin would later mimic as "Buffalo Bill" in the sequel.
I think the 3 skeletons were supposed to be the body, the detective and him when he killed himself to finish his job, but the bombs were dropped before any of that happened, and the skeleton on top was the detective in his or her way to the scene of the crime.
TestRun how I see it, the detective gets there attacks the killer. The killer then subdued the detective and then proceeded to "ghoulify" them. At this point the already ghoul killer has an eternal relationship with the detective. The killer then spends his time kidnapping and turning people into ghouls to try and sate his appetite for pain and suffering. Conveniently the people of Diamond City blame the Institute, never realizing that the true culprit is right under their nose
How would he even have known about Ghouls or the process of Ghoulification before the war? There were no ghouls before the war, and if any information DID exist on them, it would've been classified information with the government. Plus, Diamond City doesn't allow Ghouls, so if the Fens Phantom was kidnapping from the city, he wouldn't have had any way in or out. Your theory doesn't connect in a few areas
That recording really does sound like a deranged serial killers tape 4real.. he has this deep disturbed voice with his only human " i think what I needed is just for somebody to know me" almost like he knows he is going to kill you but baits you in anyways just by being a human. fantastic voice acting in fallout 4. A+
Honestly, your theory is the best, most thought out and likely of what happened. Fens Phantom and Detective story reminds me strongly of True Detective (S1) and also how Jigsaw taunted Detective Tapp/Rigg in Saw and Saw IV.
The Phantom says "We have a long time to get to know eachother" SO, the Phantom in one way or another sealed the sewer system shut, guaranteeing the Detective could never leave. So if the Detective did go in the sewer, his body would most likely still be there, whereas the Phantom COULD have finessed his ass with Casket of Amontillado themed finessing, and left. Though, as menacing and sarcastic as his messages seemed, the Phantom did feel alone, and he did want someone to see him for who he was, and not run away(reminiscent of Dexter), so I doubt the Phantom left the Detective to die, and stayed with the Detective. Did they kill eachother? Did one kill the other? Did the Detective go in the sewer? Unanswered questions, other than the Skeleton at the manhole cover. That was either the detective, or the Phantom. (The skeleton looks the same as the others, so given the circumstances, it's safe to say they're directly correlated, making them all at least 250 years old) If the Detective never went into the sewer, but instead died from the blast on his way down, the Phantom's body would still be in the sewer. As I mentioned, the Phantom was a lonely person, who felt disconnected from the world around him, so as fun as this was for him, he has no reason to lie about the situation, and every reason to stay true to his word, that he was in the sewer. So, the Phantom could be anyone of those bodies, especially the ones where there's too many X's for the number of bodies, though, since it's a game, the Phantom would likely be at the end of the sewer's path. Edit: If they both made it in the sewer, and were both together(presumably same day the bombs fell)they would've been affected....turning them...into Ghouls. So how many ghouls were there again? Also, at the start, he told the Detective to come alone or he wont be there. The skeleton on the grate could've been the detectives partner, possibly going in after the detective when things went silent for too long. Meaning, either the Phantom knew he wasn't alone and left, the phantom and the detective turned into ghouls when the bombs dropped ,leaving this partner to die on the grate, or the detective never made it into the sewer, and the Phantom either became a ghoul, died and rotted, or left-leaving this mystery unsolved forever Edit(again): Finished watching the video, the detective got killed with the hammer, and the Phantom turned into a glowing one when the bombs dropped, giving him massive amounts of radiation. which is obvious because the video mentions it, but....isn't it weird how the detective was bent over the table? Lol..
The last recording goes with the last bodies you found, makes sense the detective being female with his implications from the last two holotapes. Gets her down there, she follows all of his clues to where she goes too far into the sewer to reach the bed at the end. He tortures her, has his fun, kills her and then himself.
Haven't watched all of the video so idk if you've explained, but the skeleton using the fish and it's own skull as bait symbolises that he's using himself (detective's criminal fascination) and the other's he killed as bait to kill her
Man, I love how much drama you put in these!!! I'd love to hear your take on the story behind Big John's salvage. I know it's not a lot but it has an interesting story to tell!
I favor the pieced together display notion as reason for the 3 X marks, one X for each victim included in the collage. I also propose that the killer is one of the high level feral ghouls encountered at this site, likely your glowing one idea, the other ghouls possible victims in captivity, all turned ghoul with the fallout. That's my head canon anyway. :)
fun fact; baby skulls are mostly cartalidge. It's quite possible that skeletons might have been in the carriages, but they probably deteriorated or were gnawed apart by rats or other animals, which cartalidge would be easier to digest than bone.
I recently ran across a reference to the Fens Phantom in Nuka World. In a secluded spot in kiddie kingdom just southeast of the Fun House there is a secluded spot where there is a teddy bear holding a piece of chalk facing 3 Nuka World dolls with a knife protruding from each with 3 X's marked on a wall.
We came to the same conclusion about almost everything the fishing skeleton was made with different bones which is why you can find boxes full of dismembered skeleton parts scattered about
In Greentech Genetics you can find another interesting detail which may refer to the Fens Phantom, on the 3rd Floor, when you walk over the catwalk to the east and go into the office by turning right and left you will have on the left side a blackboard with 3 x and 3 bullet holes and blood beside.
Hey Mister Oxhorn, I don't know if this has been mentioned or if you already know but in Kiddie Kingdom (Nuka World) at the North east of the map inbetween the rails of the cars ridding by and an outher wall of the castle you can go slightly up hill and find behind a bus against a wall a teddy bear in front of 3 toys. Each toy is stabbed with a combat knife and the teddy is holding a peace of chalk. To top it off, on the wall next to it there's 3 "X" marks in chalk. Did you know about this? And how do you think it fits in with the Fens Phantom as it is his calling card.
The two at the end are the killer and detective. In his last tape he says "it doesn't matter anymore you are here with me. We have all the time in the world to get to know each other." Meaning eternity.
Its always an oversight whenever postwar stuff shows up in a preserved prewar scene. Fallout 4 was crated modularlly, which means that they made X number of models and just copy/pasted
Hey dude, keep this up hey! You are the voice of fallout lore and speculation for me. Every time I play and enter an area you have talked about I hear your narration. You are amazing!
Yooo Oxhorn! No suggestions here or anything just wanted to say I freaking love your channel and all the fallout content! Literally all I watch anymore is your channel! No Netflix or anything else, just this. Love it, and keep it coming and keep up the great work!!
