The First Holy Grail War Explained [Fate/Stay Night] [Fate/Zero] [FGO] 

*Irisviel, waver and, chu culain gtfo shinji

Specify that it's extra shinji so he's less hateable

Then he became sex offender worm pile

Except Cu was once a good man,bruh.

Sad that he become worm rapist

Shh Don't just expose me like that....

@@Lemuel928 except the Dino president Cú

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

What bar ?

@@donq8990 shirou works at a random bar

@@randoshmuckarias1296 Not random, it's the Copenhagen, owned by the father of one of Taiga's friends, Otoko Hotaruzuka. Her nickname is is "Neko".

@@lopez.jacinto.6726 jesus christ man do you read the wiki as the bible lol. But still thanks for the info

Fighting darnic really fuck his mind.

As long as you don't defend what he did- even Justeaze is rather disgusted with what he became and what he's done.

Love is very dangerous. Live long enough with the same emotions will destroy your old self.

His story is eerily similar to Kiritsugu's. He was trying to find a legitimate way to bring world peace and realizes its unobtainable. Still clings and then finally caves into the pain of living after 200 years and becomes a worm rapist

Thats why i would love to see a a alternative timeline, where Makiri decided to stop the war before it beginns. And in the end he destroy the grail and all the bad stuff never happened and we see Sakura as a Matou but this time with a happy live, together with the Kariya and Shinji

Quite them angry marble

more like it turned the grail into a monkey's paw

Angry mango the source of all evil Meanwhile in fgo, the weakest and hardest servant to got

Srsly tho, Angry Macha is just more or less a "what if Jesus actually hated the people"

Gawd, that'd be awesome if that were true.

@@Frank_West a lie that was believed till it became reality

Maybe because they are gone from The Age of Gods.

The third magic guy is your OP deadpool that can hop multiverses ,always bored and loves to prank the unsuspecting victim with troll sub dimensions which may harbor eldritch entities Oh wait we talkin bout third not second..Lol my mistake

@@actuallysatan7105 You must be mistakin for the nutty vampire for a wizard marshall that so happens the Tohsakas are acquainted with.

Or Merlin...

@@lokksiders__2151 that's a possibility

@@lokksiders__2151 There's a mage before Merlin, Solomon, if I remember correctly he's the reason why magic as a whole and concept is brought to the world, he had even to say Omnipotent power due to owning the 10 rings that God gave him.

It was Jesus

@@milcho8233 dude that was solomon

Zelretch who produced the 2nd killed type moon, the original vampire who holds true dominion over all mature. Type moon- crimson moon brunestud tried to bring down pieces of theia and gaia to unite, bringing down the moon to earth... zelretch used 2nd magic kaleidoscope to push back the moon indefinitely and murder crimson moon. All true magic users are beyond overpowered, and unlike zelretch and his kaleidoscope, heavens feel's creator would still be in their peak condition with the 3rd magic's indefinite absolute immortality

@@acehughj4527to be honest the only one I really know by heart is heaven’s feel. The others I’m somewhat oblivious to because I don’t hear about them much. But it’s all pretty fascinating.

Considering it was recently stated that FGO is planned to continue on at least another 5 years, it's possible they could touch on it there. I mean after the incineration of humanity and the lostbelts, I can think of little else that could feel like a threat on par or superior to that other than a user of true magic, or maybe one of the Types.

@@notanotaku1101 they properably going to summon type mercury ORTE in lostbelt 7 and i bet they need at least 3rd magic to counter that thing.

@@notanotaku1101 Considering the clue about the Outer God in LB4.5 though, I think the next part would have their involment be in more of a limelight next. These being are a source of a much, much worse trouble to come.

The Einzbers are Germans

@@unicorn_homunculi111 still they somehow give off a russian vibe

How is einzbern from japan?

You mean Zolken. Einzbern is from Germany, and yes, I thought Illya was from Russia as well (because it sounded like a Russian name). Zolken is from Russia, and after coming to Japan, it became “Zouken” which is more of a Japanese pronunciation.

Tohsaka's are from Japan, Einzberns are German, and Makiri's were Russian, but changed their name to fit in.

The plot thickens

@Toneri Ōtsutsuki the visual novel

Oh yeah, Aoko Aozaki, right?

They sould make an anime serie about Miss Blue...

@@redhorseman7599 For real though, UFOtable needs to give her the Fate series treatment. Or the studio that did Oath Under Snow, I’m fine will either.

Shirou and rin producing 2nd magic belike hon hon

@@randoshmuckarias1296 Too be fair they already had the path towards the 2nd laid for them. They just needed the means (Illya's help and Archer's arm).

Well, Aoko wasn't the one that created the 5th. It was her grandpa. Also she stole nothing, Touko was just disinherited and salty about it.

a matter of perspective, did u see anything beyond Tsukihime's prologue to pass judgement?

@@umu-san4414 To be fair instead of Archer's arm they could have just waited for Shirou to grow up a little while keeping up with his training in a hypothetical scenario where that is possible and he didn't lose his arm.

It’s shown in hf3

Yeah, but he wouldn't have free will right? He is probably on some land living a simple and happy life for all eternity

If we're going by fantasy logic then yes the user is probably alive and just looking from the background laughing it's ass thinking look at all this pitiful wannabe magician imma just live here chillin and shit so just do your pitiful things.

Zelretch who produced the 2nd killed type moon, the original vampire who holds true dominion over all mature. Type moon- crimson moon brunestud tried to bring down pieces of theia and gaia to unite, bringing down the moon to earth... zelretch used 2nd magic kaleidoscope to push back the moon indefinitely and murder crimson moon. All true magic users are beyond overpowered, and unlike zelretch and his kaleidoscope, heavens feel's creator would still be in their peak condition with the 3rd magic's indefinite absolute immortality

@@luigitaku1018 why not? the 3rd magic doesn't do anything to free will. Hell given it's just literal soul magic your will would be empowered beyond compare.

third magic is soul magic to simply say put. Imagine the guy actually dying physically but reincarnating like nothing happens and remembers everything. I be just ignoring my old life cause it's stressful as heck if that was the case

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Zouken is basically a trajic hero, but when you only consume the anime you would never know it till you decide to dive deeper into fate lore. Like I thought he was nothing but a souless bastard that hurt Kariya and Sakura to the point of self-destruction all for his own self-interest, only to find out he was a man who dreamed big but was disappointed in the end. Still doesn't excuse the shit he pulled on his own blood but atleast he isn't so flat imo.

Yeah it's too confusing and too much hidden information. I just like the fights because getting into the rest is too much for nothing

@@R.O.T.C._SEEM yeah when i firat watched the main story line like three years ago i just thought oh the animation is well done and the fights are good but didnt get the story at all so i got some more information about the lore and its pretty good abd bc of that i rewatched it but when i look smth up on the fate fandom wiki its more confusing than every maths exam i ever took like whaaat.

Nah probably not. This are grand casters we are talking about.

@@drakejoy2902 exactly, just imagine if the grand casters doesn't bounded by contracts

@@empforceone Rather than that, it would be more like Solomon, the original Grand Caster, could just create True Magic at will and as a result, basically creating magecraft in the process. We do not know the full extent of Solomon's power, but it can be reasonable assumed that he was to Merlin what Merlin is to other casters. Merlin, having inherited the title of Grand Caster from Solomon tells us that he is at least strong enough to effectively wield, if not create, True Magic himself. The only thing we know about the First Magic is that its wielder was “born the night before B.C. became A.D." which sounds like they mean Jesus Christ, the man with likely the closest connection to the Grail in history due to a shared origin, and that the first magic was something granted by God. In the case of The Third Magic, it must also have some special connection with God, which can be derived from its name "Heaven's Feel". From what I can gather, I think that the original wielder of the Third Magic was something like a priest or Extremely devout follower of the church, and his devotion was rewarded with the Magic, and he was the progenitor of the group who created the Einsburns.

Most likely that mage was a Vampire or a man from the Age of Gods that manifested their entire power.

The 5 magics and bordering true magic are very different. Solomon or any grand caster wouldn't really stand a chance against type moon while zelrich did win in a 1v1. So in terms of that a true magician has better feats the 6 sisters also defeated type pluto. Beast 1 is well a beast of disaster and needed thousands of years of preparation and for lev to not die or suicide for his master plan to work. Zelritch just kinda showed up one day to 1v1 crimson moon

You mean aside from fate zero?

@@sautortheratkiller9172 yea like 1-3

Zouken was body Hopper and justeaze was a artificial Homnoculi

same

Type-Moon wiki

beserker saber or lancer

Lego is clearly an assassin-class weapon. Idk what you're talking about.

true

the materialization of soul. Basically, modern-day magecraft uses mana to do amazing things, but those things are still bounded by the laws of the universe or physics like the conservation of energy etc. However true magic defies those rules and can stand above the laws set up by the universe since they come from the source of everything. For example, third magic the materialization of soul not only grants immoritlaity but the ability to separate soul from the body, which is an impossible feat under the laws of physics. Another one would be the fifth magic, which is breaking the rule of causality, as in you no longer need a cause to have an effect. Basically tru magic users are beyond overpowered, they are literally gods that stand even above the universe itself.

​@@lordneversmile8105 I'm really late but who are these god beings? Also, how did the first Tohsaka remain alive for so long? He didn't have Zoken's worms or Einzbern's homunculus body right? Also also, the disciples are still alive? If they have the power to create the Einzberns and are interested in third tier magic, why don't they act instead of just waiting for something to happen? Like, at the time of the fifth Holy grail war Zoken's an old fart, the only remaining Tohsaka is Rin (which is not at the level of Zoken or the founder of the Tohsakas, if I'm not wrong), and the only remaining Einzbern is Illya, a loli. Isn't it about time to do some shit? 😂 I may have sound critical but it's just cuz I love fate and I want to have the lore clear in my head

@@xDanilor I think the problem is for me at least i donw know what to read/play/watch in what order or where to get it. Its complicated as fk and you need to go through a lot to find it. Its a bit sad tbh that it isnt more clear experience because the lore is great. I believe you ask about first tohsaka but i think they were living as normal human lifespans, only matou &einzberns were semi-immortal.

@@xDanilor so when i say gods i just meant like able to bend the physical laws of the universe, which can only be accomplished through true magic. im not too sure where u getting the first tohaska, pretty sure he passed long ago. As for einzberns, the diciples couldnt replicate their master's true magic. The homunculus is the closest they could get to and even then they are not quite there. Im not sure what you mean by not acting, Illlya literally is their champion. I hope this helps

@@lordneversmile8105 ah I see! Thanks!

Probably busy with Dead Apostle research.

too soon

I feel like they were just out and about being Heroes of Justice. whilst the 3 founding families bicker with each other and all that

its zouken

It relates to resurrection as in the nature of his body after the fact, that is why is called heaven's feel, there's a parallel to how humans are supposed to exist in heaven but is not a direct confirmation of anything, the user of the third also went missing like in 1000 AD , that said Jesus birth is tied directly to the first magic and true magic in general have this shift happening at his birth as the breaking point between the age of gods and the human era, the stuff with Solomon also has ties to that, all in all everything is still vague but the dots to connect are there, seems god is directly involved in a lot of the setting

No, They're From Diffrent Timeline Of Holy Grail War. I Forget The Detail, And If My Memory Correct, It Was Explained In Fate Hollow Ataraxia, Including The 5 Holy Grail War. CMIIW Please If Someone Read This.

We don't some theorized it was Jesus, but again that is just a popular theory.

@@albertoluis1544 is it cannon ? And where can i read it ?

Its even more of a straight adaptation from the vn. You will see Caster Garhhh moment beforr she die in lame way like in Presage flower

@@johnwu1907 yeah i know the movies skipped a lot of content because of time i was wanting to know how real hf happened but i. Was not prepared to go through the entire vn

@@donq8990 The manga is basically the VN in manga form that is how faithful it is, but the pace is slow like real slow

@@MrYoyoshi9 how many chapters ?

On what? Makiri?

@@TsiahIV Yes, and everything else. Getting it right might be troublesome, need a bit research and training. But in my workplace , it will be a difference, they tend to looking for me, I can talk to my foreign client easier, they like it, more so if we understand their pop culture even for a bit, then job goes smooth and i take it as another upgrade for my self. Don't know why i tell you this, I beg your pardon for my weird behaviour, I know good shit when i saw one, hope you might take this into consideration.

That's the first magic. Which was discovered *surprisingly* at Jesus's birth.

Yeah jesus can literally create new life if he want to. It's like nega-genesis but minus the nega.

Yep

@@nottomiokagiyu9830 really

@@thirtydindy701 Probably? His miracles would be called Magecraft in-universe

In truth,Adam and Eve were made of Magecraft once.

while its not confirmed what the first magic is, there are hints that it is the creation from nothingness, as in creating out of nothing(thereby breaking the law of physics and universe as under the conservation of law u can't just creat something out of nothing). Also Akarsh, or root, can be interpreted as many things. It can be thought of as the source of big bang, or where God, the one above all, resides etc