The Floating Dust Shoe (The very best dust shoe out there?) VCarve tutorial.

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I wanted a dust shoe that have a easy access to tool change and something that kind of float on the surface. And I have seen shoes with long brush that sucked in by the vacuum. I think I have the solution too all that here. My DIY Floating Dust Shoe How To video.
Music - ”Killers” by Josh Woodward. Free download: joshwoodward.com/
VCarve files Link: drive.google.com/file/d/1wBwi...
Clamp Part Vectors Link: drive.google.com/file/d/1xdqb...
Middle part Vectors Link: drive.google.com/file/d/18V2C...
Brush Part Vectors Link: drive.google.com/file/d/1H2Hw...
All parts in DXF: drive.google.com/file/d/1uDDB...
Here is links to the Swedish stores were I bought the material for the shoe. You can search on eBay for steering gear boot and door sealing brush or door bottom sweep as well.
www.biltema.se/sv/Bil---MC/Bil...
www.jula.se/catalog/bygg-och-...
www.biltema.se/sv/Bygg/Kemikal...
www.clasohlson.com/uk/Neodymi...
Tool data for this project.
3mm single flute end mill.
Spindle speed 18000 r.p.m.
Feed Rate 1800 mm/min.
Plunge Rate 900 mm/min
Pass Depth 1.5 mm.
Stepover 1.2 mm.
6mm Single Flute end mill
Spindle speed 18000 r.p.m.
Feed Rate 1800 mm/min
Plunge Rate 900 mm/min
Pass Depth 1.5 mm.
Stepover 2.4 mm
90 degree 10 mm V-bit
Spindle Speed 18000 r.p.m.
Feed Rate 1800 mm/min.
Plunge Rate 900 mm/min
Pass Depth 1.5 mm.
Final Pass Stepover 0.21 mm.
Clearance Pass Stepover 2.5 mm

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5 янв 2018

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@vevveyfonzo 6 лет назад

I agree with Janne on this one. This is one of the best boots that I have seen!! Amazing work with the design, and the video as well!!

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Justin Ohlsen Thanks Justin nice too hear 😀

@pauliandersson5836 5 лет назад

Looked very good. Will build this and try it. Thank you for your contribution.

@mthiessen134 3 года назад

I’m building a cnc right now. Love this idea. Thx. I think it’s a right of passage that most cnc builders redeem... Finish building cnc.... make custom dust collector boot

@Simsy5861 6 лет назад

CNCSwede That is a great variation to the normal Dust Shoe. I have a home made dust shoe that works well, but I think I will be following your lead as I think your innovation will be far more effective. Thanks for the ideas and the great videos.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Geoff Sims I'm glad you like it, it works really well and it always has contact with the material even if I use longer end mills. I see a lot of people running with their shoes far above the surface. It should not be as effective I guess.

@EduardoTorresDeMadera Год назад

This is a game changer, thanks a million for such awesome demostration.

@CNCSwede Год назад

Thanks! 😊

@jakemancnc 3 года назад

So good. This is what I need so badly. Thank you for sharing!!

@CNCSwede 3 года назад

Jacob Armstrong Thanks 😊 👍

@alinmarianbalasa9331 3 года назад

Thank you Erik. Brilliant.

@Dimmasscont1 Год назад

CONGRATULATIONS. MAGNIFICENT WORK. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR IDEA. IT WILL HELP MANY PEOPLE TO SOLVE THIS DUST PROBLEM IN THEIR WORKSHOP. I'M BRAZIL

@CNCSwede 5 месяцев назад

Thanks 🙏😊

@alejandroleon3365 3 года назад

Excellent job, thank you very much for to share it with us.

@CNCSwede 3 года назад

Thanks Alejandro 😊👍

@Rawcnc 6 лет назад

This is awesome, the best one i have seen this far...

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Raw cnc Thanks! 😊

@michelrigaud9552 2 года назад

Clever and brillant design!

@CNCSwede 2 года назад

Thanks! 😊

@pgoessnitzer 6 лет назад

Very nice job! Thank you for sharing!!

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

pgoessnitzer Thanks 😊

@SuperiorEtchworx 6 лет назад

That's brilliant. Gonna share the hell out of this!!

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Superior Etchworx Thanks man! 👍😊

@jacquesblais6094 5 лет назад

Super brillant et très beau merci pour cet vidéo

@CNCSwede 5 лет назад

Jacques blais thanks 👍😊

@JaymeVanAuken Год назад

Excellent, very nice

@CNCSwede Год назад

Thanks! 😊

@kjellt.evensen4811 6 лет назад

Love it. Brilliant.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Kjell T. Evensen Thanks Kjell 😊

@moneymcr Год назад

Looks great. I'm planning on building one. Just a couple of questions. What are the three 5.3mm holes in the in the Middle and Clamp parts? I have an 80mm spindle so I'd have to enlarge the whole design. You don't happen to have an update with a bigger spindle? Thanks.

@bami2 Год назад

That is amazing

@MatteHatt 4 года назад

Bloody fantastic !

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

MatteHatt Thanks 😊

@mikeysp007 Год назад

Thats very clever! im impressed

@CNCSwede Год назад

Thanks 👍😊

@mikeysp007 Год назад

@@CNCSwede Whats the inner diameter of your "Steering gear cover" im struggling to find one which fits over my spindle at 50mm.

@grantlesueur 5 лет назад

Nice job!

@CNCSwede 5 лет назад

Grant LeSueur thank you sir! 😊

@Ezanity 5 лет назад

Wow .you are a genius. Wish I found this before I spent £15 on a piece of crapy metal I have that is poorly made and don't even fit well

@CNCSwede 5 лет назад

Ezanity Gaming Thanks man 👍😊

@ianmellin3259 2 года назад

Hello, I have watched this video very interesting. My issue is that when i try and mill the acrylic it the feeds and speeds mentioned melt the acrylic and break the 3 mm tools. Can you suggest a more appropriate speed to cut acrylic at.

@joseoteronieto597 Год назад

Hi , can u tell me what sofware are u using ?

@coulterjb22 3 года назад

Brilliant!

@CNCSwede 3 года назад

Thanks 😊

@saccaed 6 лет назад

I like it.

@JDSquaredInc 6 лет назад

Very cool

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

JD Squared, Inc. Thanks 👍😊

@hiandrewfisher 2 года назад

This meets almost all of my autistic and OCD needs.

@gilcd85 6 лет назад

Love the design! I am in the process of making one of these and was wandering: the lowest (brush) layer moves freely around the spindle so its hole should be mush bigger than the diameter of the spindle. Is this correct? For a 65mm spindle, what should be my brush and middle layer hole size? Thanks!

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

I got the same width on all three. My chuck isn’t so wide so it interferes with my dust shoe. I hope to see some pictures when you are ready with the shoe 😊

@gilcd85 6 лет назад

First of all - thanks! I have all three parts cut and was able to get the rubber dust boot so it's really a matter of assembly now. I think I understand the mechanics now: the two upper parts sit on the spindle while the lower part with the brush hangs in the air around the chuck. That's brilliant! Where should I post the pics?

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

gil segev Great 👍😊 You can post pictures to cncswede@gmail.com

@SmartGuitarTools 5 лет назад

Bravissimo!

@CNCSwede 5 лет назад

SmartGuitarTools thanks 😃👍

@bengeiser3646 6 лет назад

For some reason I can't reply to your posts, that is why I keep making new comments... so the total stroke is the length of the brushes plus the compression of the dust boots?

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Ben Geiser thats weird 🤔 Yes that’s correct 😊

@Serbo-Greek 6 лет назад

HAHAHA!!!! WOOOW! So simple, and yet so amazing! Great job man!! Edit: I just saw your name, this is the first video that I am watching of you, and I realise you are swedish. I am in Stockholm and I would like to ask you where to buy good spindles in Sweden? Can I have somehow your email or phone number? Thanks.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Karadjordje Trkulja Thanks! 😊 My machine and Spindle are from cncmaskiner.org and I bought some stuff from www.jbcnc.se/sv/ if you want to mail me you can do that on cncswede@gmail.com

@bengeiser3646 6 лет назад

So 1.81 inches is the max depth you can cut? Seems like that may be more a function of the brush length or am I thinking about this wrong? I thought of a couple more questions: 1. is it possible the boots hit an angle that they make contact with the spindle/bit? 2. if the dust shoe catches on something, it will detach from the magnets and make contact with the spindle? Is there any type of latching that prevents this?

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Hi Ben! I thought it was the bit length that worried you in your last question? The clearance under the z-axis is almost 5 inches on my machine, but if I had material so thick the shoe have contact anyway if you understand? 1. Either the brush or the boot can contact the bit in my design, that’s the reason of my design actually. If you add longer brush without the boot the brush will contact the bit. 2. If you look at my video you see the three pins that prevent that.

@pauliandersson5836 5 лет назад

What thickness of acrylic plastic do you use? And where do you buy the acrylic? Is it molded acrylic plastic? I live in Sweden.

@CNCSwede 5 лет назад

Pauli Andersson Hi Pauli. It is 10mm cast acrylic plastic. I got hold of the acrylic plastic at a local sign company. Good luck 😊

@rufustoad1 2 месяца назад

Well? After 6 years is this the best shoe out there? What would you do differently?

@bengeiser3646 6 лет назад

How do you set this up for bits that vary in length? For instance, the difference between a v-groove bit and a .25" end mill can be a couple inches. Great design though, I am designing a boot right now taking your lead.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Ben Geiser Thanks Ben! 😊 The shoe doesn't have any problem with the bits that I have used so far. But that's a good question, I should measure the stroke of the shoe later today. 👍 I let you know the results.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Ben Geiser I have measured the stroke now. You can read results in the document and look at the pictures I uploaded here. drive.google.com/open?id=1TiBgdUAnSsqUH28Stj0rYOdvTw2Vs64-

@lewy7601 7 месяцев назад

May I ask what type of aryclic cut above? is it casting or extruding kind?

@CNCSwede 7 месяцев назад

It's Cast acrylic. But if you want to make one use baltic birch or mdf

@paulreader1777 5 месяцев назад

Looks a great design Erik. How is it performing after all these years? I am thinking of adding a 4th layer to accommodate long and short brushes and, in our case possibly brush layers for wood and other materials separately.

@CNCSwede 5 месяцев назад

Thanks! 😊 It works great. After the video was made, there are a couple of things I should have done differently. The part with the brushes would have a bevel so it would slide up if it hit something. And the acrylic I built it from I got from a friend. I didn't know at the time that it was so expensive, so it might as well have been built from MDF or Baltic birch.

@clydeparks1134 6 лет назад

Great design. When I try to download the "Brush Part" vectors file all I'm getting is the "Middle Part" vectors file. What am I doing wrong?

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

clyde parks Thanks 😊 hmm maybe I uploaded that wrong, I check it out and let you know in a while.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Yep the link was wrong! Thanks for notice the bug, now it will work! :-)

@HansOlofViktor 6 лет назад

Hej cncswede! Is it VcarvePRo you use for the design?

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

HansOlofViktor Hej! No its the Desktop version I used for the design and the toolpaths

@amazoncanvas 4 года назад

Good work. What is the reason for using clear expensive acrylic instead of wood? you cannot see the tool bit anway. Also, no dust shoe works for all application, I can see yours will catch the workpiece as it drop down below the workpiece if the workpiece is thick and narrow enough.

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

Vincent Doan Thanks! I can se some of the working area but the main reason was that I got 3 square meters of 10mm acrylic from a friend for free. 😉 I’m planing to make a new improved dustshoe in MDF with a circular “window” of thin acrylic because it’s easier to buy for most people. And the improvement has with the catch issue to do, but since I did this shoe it’s happened only once 😊

@amazoncanvas 4 года назад

@@CNCSwede Better yet, make one that can adjust the height to always a bit above the material so you can see the bit cutting it. This is not easy to to because you need to have a distance sensor to get the current distance between the tool bit and the material, and then adjust the shoe accordingly. Of course, you also need a motor to dynamically adjust the shoe's height.

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

Vincent Doan Well now a bit of acrylic plastic became cheap in comparison and its not so important for me to see the bit 😉

@phillipp6849 4 года назад

Do you have one available for 80mm spindle?

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

Phillip P No, unfortunately, I do not have that, but I plan to do some other variations on the shoe in the future so then maybe I also do i file for the 80mm spindle.

@ArkMachine 4 года назад

Brilliant design! Best I've seen so far. And great craftsmanship in the design and making too. I'm curious, how did you achieve the beautiful surface finish especially after machining the middle plate? It looks like a mirror after being milled!

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

Mark Mallett Thanks! 😊 It’s work’s really great too. I used fine grade sandpaper and a bench polisher.

@ArkMachine 4 года назад

@@CNCSwede 😁 I see it works very well from your video of making a riser plate spacer for your Dodge Challenger! Thank you for posting this! I have a large DIY CNC that I use to cut some very dusty materials. My current dust Shoe does not float and many times sits too high above the material and is nearly useless. I use Bosch Colt and DeWalt 611 routers which are larger in diameter than a usual spindle, but with some modifications to overall size and spindle diameter this could work for me I think. The rubber boots could be from a salvaged truck propeller shaft slip joint for very little money, and sometimes free here at Salvage/Junk yards. Seems I need to get busy and make one of these! 😄

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

Mark Mallett Many people seem to have trouble getting hold of the acrylic plastic so I was thinking of making a video with a different design. Birch plywood with a round insert of acrylic plastic for visibility in the lower part . Good luck with your build! 👍😊

@ArkMachine 4 года назад

@@CNCSwedeThanks! 👍 I have some 0.357inch/9.07mm Makrolon polycarbonate I will be using. Hard to get good acrylic, I agree. I have it here but mine shatters like glass when dropped, it is beautiful however. The usual unfinished MDF when coated with an oil based clear like Minwax Satin is cheap and very strong. I built my entire CNC router this way. And MDF is available worldwide - My wife used this in furniture construction in the Ukraine. Just an idea. I'll send you my progress and construction files in email, if that is OK?

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

Mark Mallett Yeah MDF works great too. I’m looking forward to se your progress and your CNC! Cheers Eric

@kenmckay194 6 лет назад

Your English is fine. Do you have a file that is in inch?

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Ken McKay Thanks! You can Easily change to inches in setup in VCarve

@northotagogolf 5 лет назад

Sadly, the v-carve files wont open in V8.5 and neither can I open the other files open. (eps). Any chance you could "export" the vectric files as DXF and post here? Cheers

@CNCSwede 5 лет назад

Hi Allan! Sorry for answer you so late. Now you can dowload DXF files. Link in descripton box. Cheers Eric

@northotagogolf 5 лет назад

@@CNCSwede Thanks Eric, your a star!

@northotagogolf 5 лет назад

@@CNCSwede Hi Eric, not sure whats happened here but the 2 smaller DXF's seem to have no information in them - just opens blank? If you have time could you take a look please? Thanks

@CNCSwede 5 лет назад

Alan Long That's weird 🤔 I tested it now and I dint get it to work as separate parts. But now I uploaded them in one file and now it's seems to work. I added a readme file for setting the size right.

@northotagogolf 5 лет назад

@@CNCSwede That's perfect Eric - thanks a bunch!🙂

@rickmccaskill7888 4 года назад

Love the design. I tried downloading the Vcarve file and keep getting an error message. DXF file was fine.

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

Thanks! I tried to download the vcarve and no problems. So try that again.

@rickmccaskill7888 4 года назад

CNCSwede I tried again today and just downloaded it. Thank you.

@cruisinsixothree3960 3 года назад

What material did you use? Thickness?

@CNCSwede 3 года назад

As I mentioned in the beginning of the video. 10mm acrylic plastic. But what I understand that’s quite expensive so you can use plywood or MDF as well.

@thewoodmaster 6 лет назад

It appears to be deeper than most shoes, have you found that to be a problem. I do like it a lot

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Howard Boehm Thanks 😊 I don't really understand what you mean by deeper. But it is very effetive and sucks up all dust 😊

@thewoodmaster 6 лет назад

From the distance where you mount it on the spindle to the bottom of the bristles.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Howard Boehm No, that's the benefit of this construction. If I cut objects with large variations in Z axis and have long ball nose bits, it seals all the time because of the big stroke length.

@JohnMotschenbacher 4 года назад

2 years later....are you still using it? Any drawbacks you have found? It looks to be a great design. Not sure it will work on my router but I think I am going to try.

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

John Motschenbacher Hi! Sorry about the delay. I totally missed your comment. Yes I use the shoe all the time! It works over my expectations. The drawback might be the choice of the material, I got a lot of that acrylic and didn’t realise that it was so expensive. So I consider to do a new video and make the shoe out of MDF with a little inspection window in the middle of a thinner bit of acrylic. And it have stuck once in a obstacle so I recommend you to round of the edge on the part with the brush. Try to do something similar to fit your spindle and you have a dust free CNC. Good luck 😊

@JohnMotschenbacher 4 года назад

I ended up making one out of 1/4" birch plywood. The baffles were spendy but I love it.

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

John Motschenbacher I’m so glad to hear that 😃👍

@buchnoun 6 лет назад

Great Video Eric, I wonder where you got the original idea first ? ;-) ;-)

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

buchnoun Ha ha! Yes Jerome it was you that made me do a dust shoe 👍😊But the floating Idé I actually got from Marius excellent design 😊 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ufXTIu2VmME.html

@buchnoun 6 лет назад

That's what I called a collaborative job very efficiently achieve ;-) will do mine next week but still not sure wether it will be floating or not... Either way, continue your great job entertaining us with your excellent videos : congratulation again ;)

@lucapaludo1673 3 года назад

Buongiorno sembra davvero fantastico e' possibile ordinarvi 1 pezzo?

@CNCSwede 3 года назад

Grazie! Se hai un CNC. perché non ne fai uno tu stesso? Grande progetto divertente. utilizzare mdf o compensato invece del plexiglass lo rende più economico.

@rvankooij6637 6 лет назад

very good. Perhaps share the Drawing and G code for others

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

R Vankooij Thanks! Yes maybe I do that! 👍😊

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Link to the files is in the description now :-)

@jamesdean8864 2 года назад

3 years on, is it still working fine? Does the boot wear out?

@CNCSwede 2 года назад

Yeah It’s working great, and the boot are good as new 😊

@jamesdean8864 2 года назад

@@CNCSwede brilliant. Thank you for taking the time to reply.

@bengeiser3646 6 лет назад

Hey man, messaged you a month or so ago. Can I get your email? I want to send you a few pictures of the begining of my dust boot. I'm starting to think my spindle is too large for your design.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

Ben Geiser Hi Ben! Here is my email. cncswede@gmail.com

@branislav38 2 года назад

where I can send you a tip ? : )

@CNCSwede 2 года назад

I don’t understand what you mean 🤔

@clydeparks1134 6 лет назад

Would you be so kind as to post a parts list just to make sure we get it right? once again, Thank You very much!

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

clyde parks Great ide! I have pot links to the Swedish stores in the description box and search words for the parts at eBay/Amazon as well. BTW It would be nice to see the shoe if you make one 😊

@sanjivsuri8233 4 года назад

Please confirm that the middle part have a border so that it sits accurately when the magnets come together with the part which is mounted to the spindle

@CNCSwede 4 года назад

No border but it has three pins that's going down in three holes, as you can clearly see at 14:00 in the video.

@sanjivsuri8233 4 года назад

@@CNCSwede yes I noticed thank you for the clarification ..... but I feel that the weight is going to be too heavy for the magnets to handle ... if I have a machine with an 8 inch/200 mm gantry and I am doing a job close to say 100 mm the bottom part of the skirt would exert pressure while adjusting....also when the head will move to one side the bottom part of the boot will hit the side of the material and the magnet will not be able to hold onto weight ... we will need to figure out a way to keep the brushes longer and the boot system smaller. .... finally I think this was a great idea but we need to improvise as per the job ...

@LogicSpeaks 6 лет назад

Very useful and informative video and an awesome dust boot design... but I highly suggest avoiding using music during the video explanation. Not to mention the kind of "triumphant" style music you used distracts from what you're trying to do here.

@CNCSwede 6 лет назад

LogicSpeaks Thanks 😊 And Thanks for the advice about the music. I'll shell think about that if I do another video some day. Do you have done a lot of videos your self?

@LogicSpeaks 6 лет назад

CNCSwede hah, nope, I'm just the watcher of videos and considered making them. Thanks to people like you, I get some great information on a daily basis :)

@beatleleebailey 6 лет назад

Great job but, lose the back ground music.

@conkcat 3 года назад

Sorry probably interesting, but you talk too quiet and the music is distracting

@CNCSwede 3 года назад

I’m sorry that you think so. My English isn’t that good I’m afraid so it’s probably therefore I’m try too hide that with the music. If I do any more videos I will think of that. Thanks for your opinion. //Eric

@conkcat 3 года назад

I am not complaining about your content it was very good, I hope I didn’t offend you. It’s great to see people’s do this I am looking to design a dust shoe for my home build cnc, so I was searching for ideas. Keep up the good work.