The Flood (Could) Devour the 40k Galaxy by PancreasNoWork - Reaction with Archo, Eagle, and Zach! 

Oh yeah, that pretty much proves that the Flood do something to reality itself...

and as slaanesh cultists their sense of caution is shot to hell(Literally) so they would definitely bring back specimens and accidently give the flood control of the webway just straight up

I call Hax.

@@DaddyVeo1911 And you would be right. Too bad the Flood doesn't give two shits about that, because all shall be consumed.

From what I know they didn't turned into Flood forms, but were just mutated and twisted beyond saving.

I remenber halo ghost of onix, where the flood was trying to escape delta halo with a bunch of spirit, banshees, phantons, etc. And were ultra fast on taking a ccs cruiser and almost escape, and later just a few seconds later other two cruiser were been taken. That was impresive. Oh and then they totally take over hight charity in a few hours

​@@martinnavarrete5279didnt the flood cover the entirety of alpha halo in like 2 days?

@@MiGLifeCrisis yes pretty much

And also the same guy who played the Clones in Star Wars The Clone Wars.

@@kabob0077y’all acting like Dee Bradly Baker don’t got a name

@@creed8712 I know his name, but for those who don't it entices them to look him up.

Dismantle mines yes? (Insect-like clicking)

​@@creed8712Oh so also like 60% of the Ben 10 cast

I knew about it, yet forgot and was to excited to inflict upon the pain of OwO gravemind.

What

@@crispinravlin4256 at almost the end of the video PNW says really cursed stuff about Gravemind

Floodussy

The Webway portal on Terra is ruined, opening it will result in a flood of Demons.

@@nobleman9393 the flood would take that too

@@nobleman9393the flood get to murder more enemies they will like it

The flood are in lore a galaxy wipe / human test. They might hold back

The Flood won’t destroy humanity immediately. It is my understanding they hold the belief from their Precursor ancestors that Humanity should take the Mantle of Responsibility. So in the Halo universe they are actually holding back and are really destroying Humanities rivals.

Myes

First Halo media the boss saw was, The Mona Lisa.

Yet a marine, nor Master Chief isn't infected when fighting these things, lol.

@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 gameplay reasons, same reason arbiter doesn't become one either.

@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 the master chief is wearing effectively a titanium skin suit as for the marines it’s the same reason the airborne flood spores in game don’t infect everything not wearing a breathing apparatus

Good, my master plan is in motion.

And in the end it doesn't matter if the flood is good or not: when you can catapult flood combat and infections form across the galaxy and (in lore) the spores spread, the Flood has already won. The launch a capital covenant ship from High Charity to crash on Earth and spread. Luckily the Elites were there to limit the spread by basically GLASSING HALF OF AFRICA in less than 1 day, by the order of Arbiter. Otherwise, they'd glass the whole planet. When the Flood (in lore) is soooo infectious it makes every infectious disease on earth combined throughout all of history look like a miniscule spread in comparison, just throwing a capsule with some infection and combat forms at a ship is enough of a destructive weapon to annihilate it and the crew in a few minutes, or hours if the ship crew is able to fend it off for a while.

Which is SCARY! Since that stuff just ignores all rules of reality.

UNSC united nations space command

@@Paulito2026 I don't know how I wrote it like that to be honest

"Chief you ok? Your vitals just pinged K I A?!"

You know, I never thought about it, but that makes a scary amount of sense. When a method of communication can be classified as a type of weapon, you're officially dealing with something that eclipses you by a wide margin.

Homeworld cataclysm came a year before the first halo

Same

It's actually The ch Zach btw. And I wish

There's not a whole lot of other options when dealing with an opponent that goes from 0 to shit hit the fan in a matter of hours.

Told you, he would get to it.

Or as avatars for the eternal Precursors, the Flood would be made into Alpha Pariah, erasing Warp energies everywhere they go.

They’d probably become a new chaos god, or just smother everything else once they got powerful enough.

I fully believe the Gravemind would either be a Psyker more powerful than all 4 Chaos Gods combined, or a Null so powerful it outright kills them simply by existing.

Just imagine hordes of infection forms the size of Flood Tanks or bigger.

No.

​@@nobleman9393considering Hiveworlds... definantly.

@@berilsevvalbekret772 Key minds started to appear only at the end of the war, before that many planets were fully consumed at didn't turn into Key Minds, even in Halo 4 terminals we see a planet almost consumed and that was long before the Flood War.

They would need more than one Hive World to have enough biomass for a Keymind.

Frankly, the writers need to the the F out with giving Nurgle buffs against chaos resistant factions. Like, he is getting way ahead of the other 3, and in ways that threaten to blend chaos with the other biggest existential threats.

Wasn't there a thing about Khorne Orks once?

The only thing I see saving the Flood if Nuegle _can_ corrupt them is they just make a new gravemind who analyzes what happened and comes up with a counter. If it's a keymind I don't know if he could pull it off in the first place.

@@bthsr7113 yeah that about sounds right- like where's the fucking line that is supposes to make certain factions unique?

Good to know the entire halo universe is dead since halo CE since there is no way in hell MC ever beat them.

They'd need enough Halo Arrays, or some sort of equivalent, to hit the entire 40k galaxy. In the end, that would leave the Necrons and the Daemons alive, with a fresh batch of Tyranids moving in eventually. So the galaxy would fall into the hands of Death Robots, Psychic Demons, or Bug Monsters.

@@perrycarters3113 Assuming the Warhammer 40K is the same size as the Milky Way, there's no reason to think the W40K galaxy would need more any more Halos than 7. Granted from my surface level understanding of W40K, it's implied some of the races like Tyranids came from multiple galaxies outside of the W40K galaxy.

Even better, seeing as they’ll have enhanced reflexes and the like

Hehe

Maybe if we allow ourselves to be consume by the real floodit will discard that thougth inmediatly

it was a massive stroke of luck the forerunners wiped the galaxy before the flood found the Xalanyns, imagine if the flood infected just one and learned how to negate the Halo rings

@@gregthepeglegpregdreg You know what's scary? The Primordial is on Zeta Halo too.

​@@ssfbob456the primordial was destroyed, it was held there until the forerunners made it age into Oblivion. Though technically it's still alive as it exists within the flood.

While Nurgle adopting The Flood would be interesting, I vehemently believe that the Gravemind, let alone a Keymind, would either be a Psyker more powerful than all 4 Chaos Gods combined, or a Null so potent it outright kills them.

That would be because that is what the flood is. The surviving precursors after the forerunner purge did intend to return but they were unable to do so due to the corruption.

@James Lennie that's what I'm wondering, is it hardset in lore from the precursors that it was a failure and corrupted or if the flood were the plan to take out the forerunners, given that the flood are just a physical manifestation of the domaim

@@colbycharlton7259 not entirely sure but to me the failure was that they couldnt reform but they didnt let that stop them. took this from their wiki page. Far from accepting failure and extinction, the Precursors viewed the Flood as a means to bring unity to the galaxy as well as punish the Forerunners for their insolence. dunno if this answer works for you as im not really big on the whole precursor lore

The Precursors are eternal constants, existing beyond space and time. Thus no consequence of anything can be unforeseen, because they see the whole of time, always. That means the creation of the Flood was deliberate. The Precursors willfully tuned some of their avatars into Flood, while others were in temporal stasis to eventually be rediscovered as the Endless.

​@@colbycharlton7259it wasn't a species wide thing, guilty spark reseeded precursors recently in a book and the flower that sprouted was free of corruption

It depends, how populated is the galaxy? Because either way the Flood and Necros both need bodies, heartbeats optional, and in the Flood's case if AIs are present that's an edge against the Necros and Moons.

They combine

They already do that. In the games they don't because balancing and fun are more important. This is why the covenant needs to burn planets wholesale when the Flood shows up.

I vehemently believe that the Gravemind, let alone a Keymind, would either be a Psyker more powerful than all 4 Chaos Gods combined, or a Null so potent it outright kills them. Though Nurgle + Flood could make for an interesting combination.

Pain

Not Human-Covenant war era UNSC tho. But if it's a hypothetical 2600s UNSC where SPARTAN IVs augmentations are common and also available to civilians? Yeah they can survive.

@@icefl4re597 I've basing my scenario more on 2525 era UNSC. If it sounds like I've lost my mind, I'm counting on the Navy to make certain the Imperium or otherwise cannot set foot on a UEG colony.

@@Augment_Failure UNSC land forces, specifically Spartans, were the only thing that could hold back the Covenant. UNSC Navy has little to no chance unless we give them Infinity, and then they have to hinge an entire war on a single ship. Granted that ship can outgun, outsize, and outmaneuver anything 40k has because a lot of its parts are literal Forerunner tech built by Forerunner original Huragok, but one ship can't win a galactic war, especially since Infinity lacks a proper planet killer weapon.

@@lawrencebenz1313 You seem to be taking my argument out of context. I'm trying to say that the UNSC might be capable of surviving in 40k because it's effectively a galactic battle royale. I'm aware that in a 1v1 the UNSC has slim to none chances against the Imperium. In my scenario, I'm substituting the Tau for the UNSC-UEG and giving the original point of contact as Harvest. The Imperium ship that discovers this iteration of humanity may not be a warship anyway. Far as I can tell, the Imperium loses contact with it's own worlds for decades or hundreds of years at a time. That being said, they might just think Harvest to be another world they lost contact with and just now finding again. This could be where the UNSC could have a chance to learn about their foe before an aggressive response is triggered. This was an idea for the set-up, but if you want my reasoning about the UNSC fleet being able to contend with the Imperium, that will take further explaining if your interested. What say you?

@@Augment_Failure I just don't see how their navy could compete, the UNSC never won space battles against anything but pirates and Insurrectionists. They get stomped in every engagement in space, even when they can hold their own on the ground. I was thinking along the same lines, but I don't think even the pre-war UNSC or post war UNSC with Infinty and ONI supremacy could actually hold the line. They would probably just be integrated into the Imperium or Tau, if they didn't get wiped out by Orks or Chaos first. If you have a good reason to believe they could hold the line I'd love to hear it, but as much as I prefer Halo I just don't see how they could.

Shut up

@@tzeentch8228 I CATO SICARIUS DO NOT TAKE ORDERS FROM THE RUINOUS POWERS!

@@catosicarius3027 I, Tzeentch, don't care! Your own Emperor doesn't like your chapter.

@@tzeentch8228 HEY! That's quite mean. We're trying our best to stave off the constant attacks from heretic forces. My chapter was the main astartes force within the crusade! What else do you want from us?

@@catosicarius3027 Conversion to the true godly powers?

The Flood gain some Reality Warping BS early?

@@kabob0077 maybe in that case even the caos gods are screw, even without their follower being wipeout

@@martinnavarrete5279 well maybe except nurgle.

The precursors come back but far more gross and aggressive

That is factually inaccurate. It's a false narrative the Precursors permitted to be perpetuated. The Precursors are constants, eternal beings beyond all confines of space and time, which means they see everything that was, is or might be, because they can interact with the whole of the timeline seeing the consequences of all possible courses of actions and choosing to intervene in whatever ways produce the outcome they want. The Forerunners only succeeded in killing the Precursors' avatars, which they only accomplished because the Precursors didn't fight back and let them do it. The Flood were created from the survivors to further the Precursors' goals of having the mortal races reach their full potential, but the Flood accomplishes this by giving the mortals an enemy that they have to strive and grow to overcome, whereas the Precursors' previous avatars provided peaceful guidance and instruction on how the other races could best advance themselves.

The Flood's exponentially faster than the Tyranids, and every single cell functions independently to turn any biomass it contacts into more Flood cells. Those Tyranid microbes would instantly be ripped apart and turned into Flood biomass. The Necrons could be tricked into capturing a piece of technology that appears to have information on the Flood, but actually contains the Logic Plague, which would quickly spread through the Necrons. Nurgle wouldn't like the Flood being Alpha Pariah, because it looks like something he'd like, but it would actually negate his influence wherever it was.

@@lennardchurch8483that’s if the necrons are that dumb, they are very petty but wise, I’m pretty sure the eldar have pulled a stunt similar before or the 4 other races during the war in heaven that no longer exist probably due the necrons. The silent King needs humanity for bio transference so I don’t think he would sit this out if humanity starts getting munched on.

@@g1g4_ch4d7 My argument doesn't depend on the Necrons being dumb. Quite the opposite. The Necrons are smart enough to gather information to have the best advantage they can. It's not their fault for not recognizing that something's wrong when they're reading important stolen information, and there are no negative effects for them to notice. The Ur-Didact carries the Logic Plague, and he never figured it out at all. The only reason we know he had it, is because he unwittingly spread it to Bornstellar when he served as the template for Bornstellar's first mutation, and we got to see what the governing intelligence behind the Flood actually is.

Realistically, would any leader in 40k who's not already a Chaos-cultists trust the Chaos gods saying, "We need to team up because there's something out there scarier than we are... Honestly... Trust us!"

Oof my mic quality makes me cringe

*judges quietly*

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Thing is that the Gravemind exists in every Flood form down to the very Super Cell, there IS no actual center because it doesn't actually matter and one thing that the Flood could just do at that point is recreate Precursor tech like Star Roads and start abusing Neural Physics again. Even if every star explodes there's still going to be Flood left over, probably a few Graveminds inside some larger ships too, and even if most of the Flood is destroyed there's still bound to be Infection Forms and spores left over in various corners of the galaxy and as we know from Halo such things can stay viable for millions of years at the very least and probably near billions of years in actuality.

@@kabob0077that depends if the necrons actually give a shi in the beginning and just explode the stars and the surrounding ones of the flood infected, the celestial orrery is the weakest super weapon the necrons still have

Does the game ever explain what the "creeper" is? It seems to be like a D&D Ooze, that multiplies like Star Trek's Tribbles. If it's biological, then the Flood would consume it fully. I can't imagine that it could be anything but biological the way it spreads and grows.

@@lennardchurch8483Given that the generation of anti-creep is done via acquiring ore, it is entirely possible that it's made of some form of nano-machines.

@@wolfliker4260 In that case, it's more like Stargate's Replicators. That's an interesting scenario, because they don't really communicate as far as I'm aware, don't capture information or technology, they just break down everything to build more of themselves, so the Logic Plague may not work... So I think the Flood would have to use the Star Roads to fight them.

@@lennardchurch8483We know they capture information, we just don't know how. It is their presence and collection of info that allows for the Arc to be found (and potentially used). Given the presence of anti-creep I that the Flood could make their own version, but the big hindrance I see is simply the rapid dwindling of biomass in the galaxy, either consumed by the Flood, or destroyed by the creeper. Also, even if the creep biological in nature (something I doubt) it acts almost like an all-destroying acid.

@@wolfliker4260 If the Creepers capture information, then there is a method for them to potentially contract the Logic Plague. An interesting detail of the Flood, is that it's an avatar wielded by the Precursors, and not actually a corrupted mind bent on consuming all life. The guiding intelligence and power behind the Flood is the same one that created life in the Halo universe to begin with, so I don't think there would be a problem of running out of biomass. Even the Precursor-made AI, Abbadon creates biological creatures where none existed.

what's a good anime to watch? i need a recommendation that's not from the current season.

@@forkittens Eighty-Six, if you like war anime that also touches on discrimination and systemic racism. Though Fruit's Basket is another if you prefer something more light-hearted

@@Furydragonstormer you are the second person to recommend that to me. i guess i'll check it out lol. thanks for the reminder about this gem, bro.

Delete.

Appropriate, considering the extra bonus video.

This is actually coincidental

Shut up

Don't start iron

You solely are responsible for this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-32GZLded-Uo.html

@@kabob0077 Thank u fow the wink uwu. Sorry curiosity just got the best of me. That video was funny as hell though.

The thing is, it honestly scales well. You don't just nuke a galaxy over a plague. You nuke a few worlds. If a race with the ability to build a galaxy-spanning reset button has to hit it, the threat must be insane. In truth, it has never been one-up-minship. It has been about giving a valid reason to warrant cleansing an entire galaxy, billions of worlds, of life. We've never been told of any truly insane flood feats performed outside of their converted fleets and use of precursor tech. In truth, it is completely fitting that they'd be this strong. even just from the first game alone. We never know that's a proto-gravemind being built, but its very existence shows that at least the base threat was there from the start. Any real one-up-minship comes from fans and fans alone. Because the threat of the Flood is such an insane one, that other series get mad when they try to scale their universes nightmares against them. And lose almost every time. And that's without mention of their abilities beyond growth and conversion of infected beings. Being one-upped starts with a 40K fan going "Well, the Tyranids might surround the entire galaxy and have eaten countless others." And the conversation ends with the Halo fan chuckling while replying "And what gives you the impression the flood hasn't done so as well?" As for why the universe doesn't end when the flood just exists? well that's explained quite thoroughly. They are not gods and never have been. They are an echo of a corrupted race of incredibly advanced beings. It's completely possible the flood can't even construct most precursor tech on it's own without a massive amount of time due to lacking the tools to do so, and the actual knowledge itself. It could drive a road because that was the same as driving a car for them. We've never been told it has all of the memories of the precursors as a race. Just a shadow. We've never seen them do a fraction of a fraction of what the precursors could do, and the unknown facts of the matter give it some extra horror elements for lore fans. Their kinda like a Ca'tan Shard. It seems insane, but it's a fraction of true insanity. Although as a whole it still has jack shit on that other series they were talking about. Where the BIG BANG itself is weaponized as a standard infantry rifle and mass-produced. jfc man.

Lol. This reeks of someone commenting on a faction they know little about. Cope.

Exactly, I played the games, then read the books. MC should have NEVER beat the flood, it simply couldn't happen with how the books portrayed them, even with the halo being right there, guys at MC's level were dying like guardsmen vs daemons according to the books, vs the very same type of flood forms, or more or less infected civilians. Yet you play the games and the flood have things they actually need MC to do for them because they can't do it themselves which according to the books is pure nonsense and they simply needed an excuse to keep MC alive meaning he's only alive because plot says so...in which case congratulations 40k has plenty of SM MC characters flood defeated because power of plot.

It does, but Bungie-only fans made up their minds before it came out and never bothered to learn the nuances. The context in the Forerunner Saga if fully understood makes everything fall into a coherent continuity. In Halo, the Precursors are eternal constants, literal gods untouchable, beyond all confines of space and time. They created life in the universe, and in the Milky Way Galaxy, they specially created one species to eventually give the responsibility of protecting the rights of other species to the opportunity to advance and reach their full potential. The Precursors used biological avatars they created to instruct the created races in what was expected of them. The specially created race split into two, with one faction of them relocating to the far side of the galaxy and losing contact with the first, and the faction that remained in their home system explored stellar engineering and genetic manipulation to try to turn themselves into the ultimate species. The Precursors revealed to that faction that they were not chosen, and that the other faction that went to the far side of the galaxy (hereafter referred to as "humans") would be the ones given the responsibility of upholding the Mantle. That's when the faction that stayed behind (which I'll hereafter refer to by their chosen name, "Forerunners") decided to rebel, attacking the Precursors' avatars with their full fury. The Precursors didn't have their avatars fight back, instead letting the Forerunners' fury burn out against them. This both spared the other races from the Forerunners' rage, and even though this rebellion by the Forerunners brought them a death sentence, the Precursors wouldn't carry that sentence out until the Forerunners themselves had had the opportunity to reach their full potential, in accordance with the Mantle. The Precursors preserved some of their avatars as dust, to be eventually revived as the Flood for the purpose of presenting itself as a galactic threat to drive the development of the created races, forcing them to work through their differences and advance their societies to survive. The Flood also leveled the punishment against the Forerunners, waiting until all that remained of their civilization was on the Greater Ark, while all of the other species were located on the Lesser Ark, and then the Flood destroyed the Greater Ark, timing their assault to ensure that the Halo Array would be fired, giving the Flood a plausible exit from the galaxy without revealing its true intentions and abilities. The Flood infects space-time itself, altering reality around it, using Neural Physics to instantly traverse any distance. And the Flood rips apart any biological matter it comes into contact with and uses the components to build more Flood cells, turning an entire being into Flood within a matter of seconds from the briefest of contact, not even requiring an Infection form. The Flood's abilities are so virulent that even the Forerunners' armor that in real time corrects all genetic anomalies, making them immune to all diseases, never needing to sleep, and never aging, was not enough to stop the Flood from converting them. After the Halo Array was fired, it was discovered that there were organic beings that survived it. These beings were the Endless, another group of the Precursors' avatars that were placed into temporal stasis while others were turned into the Flood. The energies of the Halos destroyed the Neural-Physical components of the temporal stasis devices, releasing the occupants, but the halted time prevented the energies from reaching the occupants. The Endless were rounded up and placed in stasis on a Forerunner installation, to eventually be released by the Banished, where the Harbinger would manipulate them as part of a convoluted scheme to bring about the desired end-scenario. The Flood's emergence in the games consistently fills the roles of resource denial and anti-hubris education. The Flood prevents the Covenant from collecting or using Forerunner technologies that would allow them to eradicate humanity, and the Flood shows enough power to let humanity know that it can't be controlled, yet the Flood holds back enough that Humanity and the Covenant think that it's something that's actually defeatable. The only reason anything survives contact with the Flood, is when the Flood deliberately allows it to survive, and that applies to Master Chief's survival as well.

@@lennardchurch8483 nuances? Bungie only? 343 lore has more plotholes than holed cheese. Can you explain to me how humanity recovered from near extinct level of Halo 3 back into full scale space colonization and having new flagship that can carry smaller flagship with a spartan program that rivals the numbers of ODSTs in a span of a 4 and a half years? After covenant war of 28 years? Why is gravemind calling Humanity its ancient enemy when last time flood and humans interacted they were allied against forerunners? Wtf is one piece. I MEAN mantle of responsibility? Why did Forerunners make halo array straight away even tho original trilogy said it was last desperate idea? Why are shield worlds suddenly an alternative instead of safe havens intended to work with the rings?

@@lennardchurch8483 even 343's own lore contradicts itself. Librarian destroyed all keyships after finding humanity at the end of Flood war. Now ancient humanity appearently caused the flood to begin with. Also the devil stand in the gravemind was born by feeding dogs space cocaine.

@@_NutcasE_ The holes are in your knowledge of the lore, not in the lore itself. Through the events of the first three Halo games, humanity was working on a secret project to try to save their species in case Earth was discovered and destroyed, that project was the UNSC Infinity. As time went on and they made discoveries, they incorporated the new technologies into this ship to give it the best possible chance at survival. By the time we reach Halo 4, the ship has been completed, and humanity is no longer at immediate risk of extinction, so the Infinity is being used as a flagship instead of running and hiding anywhere they think it won't be found. The UNSC is not up to their former strength. They have very few colonies, and are putting extensive effort into reclaiming glassed worlds as is seen in Halo 5. At technology progressed, the UNSC refined the augmentations of the Spartans until they had something that approximated the abilities of previous Spartans, but could be applied to already grown and trained ODSTs, which is where we get the majority of the Spartan 4s. Ancient humanity rejected the Flood's offer to ally against the Forerunners. The Flood stopped attacking humanity, but they were never their allies. The Mantle of Responsibility is the duty of the chosen race to safeguard the opportunity of the other races to reach their full potential, not to police them or rule over them, only to prevent their eradication or complete and perpetual subjugation. The Forerunners didn't make the Halo Array right away. They spent centuries trying other ideas until they had none left except resetting the galaxy and repopulating it from preserved species held outside of the galaxy when it was purged. Really, you just need to read the novels.

@@_NutcasE_ Again, you're showing your ignorance by making accusations that you'd know the answers to if you took the time to read the books. You're misrepresenting every aspect of the lore.

Halo Infinite takes place on a Forerunner installation, the Ark. And the Endless are avatars of the Precursors... so it is all tying together.

​@@lennardchurch8483 it's actually Zeta Halo. The halo that originally belonged to the first generation of halos. which were 30000 km in diameter.

@@what_the_... You are correct. I mixed up some of the details between Infinite and Halo Wars 2.

The flood in late stages could infect the Necrons using the logic plague however that’s very late stage

@@jameson1239 we don't even know how the logic plague works since it only been used once an one forerunner ai, cortona was left with a gravemind was shaken but ok.

@@cogrunner6763 mendicant bias was left alone the grave mind in a chamber that accelerated the passage of time

If the flood get left on a planet a gravemind would form and a graveminds intelligence at minimum is an entire species intelligence stacked and in the games the gravemind literally picks up flood forms and literally throws them to other planets and with so much intelligence it would most definitely build a ship, Trying to quarantine the flood is like like trying hold down a bear with your hands it is not happening you either wipe them out before they form a gravemind or you lose if it was easy as 40k fans made it out to be how do you think they managed to destroy the forerunners who are capable of tunneling to other universes destroying them and harvesting their energy which is something that no faction in 40k could stand against except maybe the war in heaven nekrons but even then they would arguably get destroyed by the forerunners due to the forerunners far higher numbers

@@cogrunner6763 Lol. No. The logic plague was used millions if not billions of times throughout the war with the Forerunners and was even used against people to drive them insane like the Ur-Didact and turn them into unwitting tools of subversion and subterfuge. It didn't even need an AI to have direct contact with the Flood either, two machines that have even a small passing contact can transmit it if one was infected. Why bother commenting on lore you obviously don't know?

You're so biased you can't even see the center. The tyranids' adaptation is not as fast as the Flood. The Tyranids have to harvest biomass from the battlefield, dissolve it in their acid pits, drink the slurry, then birth new Tyranids using whatever information they gained. In contrast, on contact with a single Flood cell, your body begins transforming into Flood biomass, a process that at longest is still under a minute, and once you've been consumed, everything you ever knew, every skill you ever had is now in the Flood's repertoire, available to ALL Flood forms. The Tyranids disrupt "psychic" abilities via their Shadows in the Warp, which disrupts connections to the Warp. The Flood's abilities are not Warp-based, and would not be affected by the Tyranids' Shadows in the Warp at all. The Tyranids leave lifeless rocks as their whole population moves on to the next one. The Flood consumes the entire planet, turning it into a giant Flood form that manipulates space-time, as it also sends Flood out to infect other planets. The Tyranids aren't stronger than the Flood in this. The Flood's methods allow them to consume entire galaxies, multiplying their numbers endlessly, whereas the Tyranids eat everything in a galaxy, then move on, leaving nothing behind, so they are not multiplying the way the Flood are capable of on a galactic scale. And finally, the Flood are not the end-all of their faction... they're a tool wielded by the Precursors, who are constants existing beyond all confines of space and time, with knowledge of the whole of the timeline, and possessing the ability to alter the genetics of entire species extensively and at will. The Precursors would know about the Warp, and about the Alpha Pariah, and every single Flood Form would be an Alpha Pariah, negating the Tyranids' ability to psychically communicate with each other, and preventing the Tyranids being consumed from being able to relay any information about the Flood back to the others, perpetually preventing the Tyranids from adapting to the Flood in any way. The Flood are the ultimate hard-counter to the Tyranids.

Because those who contain and eliminate the Flood are actually competent, unlike the Forerunners who treated the Flood as a minor threat that could be contained.

That because the current era civilizations who knows of the flood knows that the only response to flood infection is nuke the immediate and surrounding area immediately to ensure they don't get loose and snowball into the nightmare the Forerunners had to face.

In game yes but if we’re going by in game Halo lore and exclude the books it’s only fair we go by in game Warhammer lore and exclude the books

Except they literally did though, literally the only way they stopped them the first time was by obliterating everything, the reason they didn't win in one two and three is because a small scale infection was stopped

The Flood have the ability to devour the entire Halo universe, but chose not to. The forerunners analyzed the Flood's abilities and realized that the Flood could have consumed everything before they even thought of the Halo Array, but the Flood was instead dawdling, waiting for something. What the Flood was waiting for was for the Forerunner civilization to peak, so their destruction wouldn't violate the Mantle.