40k Isn't THAT Overpowered by PancreasNoWork - Reaction 

I think the only thing that helds Dead Space back is that: when a Marker gets destoyed, all the Necromorphs it controls turns into soup

Actually there is conformation by one of the members that worked on dead space that their would have been a 4th game were the necromorphs are defeated but something worse ends up coming for humanity truth is the necromorphs were created to keep that very thing at bay

@@memosanchez8916 So basically humanity is fucked.

​@@memosanchez8916what happened to that 4th game? Was it just a scrapped idea or what?

I would also like to know.​@@memosanchez8916

I can't help but imagine a swarmlord gaining the ability to speak just for it to say: "I think I left my wallet in the previous galaxy, I'll be back!"

@@dinodude6992 "who left our Fast Pass at home? I will send you back into the goop if you don't fess up!"

Toon force can't be stopped

Popeye literally beating the abrahamic god.

Gumball Waterson is going to pile drive Khorne

If they had a chance to figure out what they were dealing with before fully committing, they'd probably start chucking nova cannon rounds and Exterminatus-grade ordnance at all signs of life.

If the meta player count numbers were accurate, a breakout followed by a defensive line could potentially be established. And if the Tenno could not only access, but enhance the technologies of 40k, as we are wont to do with our bountiful mods, we'd become an exponentially more terrifying force.

Warframes could kill chaos gods but I’m not sure how they would ever get to them

Yep, that is entirely accurate. As matter of fact i still think the imperium would lose because of how much it's a logistical nightmare, by the time they realized how big of a threat the origin system is they might just throw their hands up and go "yep, NOT WORTH IT"

@@alaskarii007 Let's be real here, the Inquisition would at least _attempt_ to sterilize the system and then strike it from the records. Too much BS going on outside of their control.

40k would burn in the fires of the Timewar as a side-casuality I think.

@@erikjohanson3929 More like erased before it could even start. But even without timetravel the Daleks are dangerous enough.

Why would the daleks pray to a god?

@@NameIsDoc They wouldn't. But considering the case with Tuska Deamonkilla, Khorn wouldn't care that much as long as the Daleks get some killing done, which they do anyways. Granted they might go after Khorn himself at one point but i guess as long as they don't pull a Starkbrand, that's fair game.

Khorn actually would have a hard time with them, the dalek brand of hatred is primarily disgust, not anger (the actual emotion core for khorne), the daleks are effectively super space marines for resisting chaos.

They were made symbiotic, not tamed. - Xeelee: Endurance

Thr fact that the Qax have the audacity to hate humanity is hilarious

@@Mondy667 >We enslave them >erase their entire history, literally >Let's a random Slave anywhere nearby a super weapon, and they are somehow suprised that this same race then blows up their homeworld >Good ole Qax

Eh considering Atriox’s past, no the Banished wouldn’t get along with the Tau.

Chaos would corrupt Halo The people of Halo are both ignorant and greedy

@@christiandauz3742 Ah, le troll has arrived.

@@kabob0077 indeed he has, he does realise that his argument is beaten by the Imperium simply existing right?

@@Azorees-oj5zr Shh, not so loud. Buddy really thinks he has an argument so don't damper his mood yet, save that for when he gets crushed by a response.

I can see Khorne trying to grant Goku power. And Goku responding with, "Nah dude, thanks but I'd rather train and build the power like usual. Also, you're really strong, wanna fight? The one you should really worry about is if Goku meets Gork and Mork

@@missjayspeechley9213 Goku is battle hungry but he lack the blood thirst of regular Saiyan so Khorne is unlikely to approach him. Khorne is more likely to target Broly

@@aokhoinguyenang3992 And I can see that back firing on Khorne too. The Saiyan I'd be most concerned about is Prince Vegeta, and his pride. If he starts referring to himself as King. Start looking for anything Slaaneshy

Saiyans regularly took over entire planets with 3 people. Space Marines tend to send more than that when they take over a planet, and they don't have to take over planets where people can shoot ki blasts from their hands and fly at will.

@@aokhoinguyenang3992 Any other Saiyan, Broly included. Would more likely want to fight Khorne. Broly especially, and brutally

The writing is so poor. I don't know what the writer is smoking when he made it, but it's quite boring.

​@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 who cares. Still will absolutely obliterate some other fanbois ego 😂.

​@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 I must agree on that. I didn't like how it was too obscure and didn't develop on much on anything. It was more like a simplified summary mostly and not much commitment to worldbuilding and just surface level summaries. Another Sci Fi author named Olaf Stapledon kind of did the same thing when he was making The Star Maker book and went into strange philosophy. In that book he made a powerful creator deity called The Star Maker.

Again que the nerd arguments again but I would say that Big E could very well beat Frieza. Side note: Big E doesn't wear gold, the metal that is used for Big E's and Custodes armor is auramite. Calling auramite Gold is like calling steel, silver.

Best part about comparing the sequence to 40k is bringing up the Interim Coalition of Governance agaisnt the imperium

Chaos gets stronger with all those Universes to corrupt! So many greedy, desperate, retarded, ignorant Cannon Fodder

worth noting star wars (from now on to be refered to as palpy's for simplicity) imperial star destroyers are roughly the size of 40k destroyers and it takes a month to make a trip that proportionally in 40k takes roughly 6 to 40 years and palpy built 25k star destroyers in 30 and reminder the star wars galaxy is roughly 40% bigger than the milky way just sayin

Im guilty in the Rimworld department. if I mention any of the messed up stuff I've done in Rimworld on youtube, my account would probably get nuked.

@@laughingcloud3516 Let's keep things vague otherwise... Now as a Starsector player I have to say I may or may not have destroyed a few planets at the very least...

@@kabob0077 as I am also a Stellaris player I may or may not have used a few Star Eaters and every variant of colossi several times. For one playthrough the Devolving Beam was my favorite I'd use it then convert the now devolved into pre-sapience species into food. In another I use the Neutron Sweep weapon on literally every inhabited planet that wasn't my own though in that play through my empire was loaded with Fanatic Purifiers so it kind of fit in with the theme of that empire. I've done some pretty messed up things in Stellaris but nothing I've done in Stellaris can compare to the stuff I've done in Rimworld.

@@laughingcloud3516 Rimworld and Dwarf Fortress make you into a monster most of the time...

Stellaris player found a system with 4 primitive planets invaded them one after another and re engineered them to be the perfect slaves for hot, cold and temperate worlds respectively then turned the last one into slave super soldiers then when one empire was annoying me I literally invaded them and nervstapled them (basically servitors without the cybernetics) actually I think the only thing they did was be in my way Also I’m fully aware this is tame compared to what some people have done in that game PS. also thanks to a mod that lets you use multiple ascension paths I was also actively worshipping discount Slanesh while doing most of this. Make of that what you will

Chaos corrupts all A toddler corrupted by Chaos can rip apart Elites and Jedi in melee while destroying thousands with Sorcery!!!

@@christiandauz3742 What have you been smoking, buddy, because it seems like some good stuff to say something like that and to come here with arguments as harebrained as this.

@@kabob0077 Angron literally destroys Titans in less than a second Sanginius nearly died banishing him Horus curbstomped and beat Sanginius to death like a dog in just minutes thanks to his Chaos powers Chaos is much more powerful than fools like you realize

@@christiandauz3742 You... Do realize you are using a _Daemon Primarch_ as your baseline for Chaos, yes? Do you realize just how facetious that is?

@@kabob0077there’s also the fact that Angron can’t destroy titans in seconds.

Jumpscares are not terrifying

​@@chill-lady-brook Gotta agree. It was pretty good back then but I'm not sure if the scares themselves still hold up. At least they didn't last time I played the original. The atmosphere still works for me, though.

I mean, any story about the doomslayer teaming up with the Imperium of Man fundamentally misunderstands the doomslayer. This is the dude who got sent to mars as punishment for putting his superior in a full body cast when ordered to fire on civilians.

@@aquila4460 You're not wrong, not at all. It was still a fan fiction though.

​@@aquila4460 He's just saving the Imperium for last.

Don't forget ACOT and its submods.

Do you have a link to that comic?

The one thing keeping that from happening is Nintendo wanting it's characters to be exclusive to their consoles. As many know, Nintendo is quite protective of its franchises. Samus was almost in, but Nintendo wanted her to be Nintendo exclusive, but Epic wanted her available to everyone else. Especially when they do cross play. There are only three ways this is going to go down. Nintendo allows its characters to be non-exclusive, Epic respects Nintendo's wishes and keeps their characters exclusive, or no Nintendo characters in Fortnite. The 3rd option seems more likely to me.

@@mill2712 Yeah... Nintendo wants their toys to be in their toybox alone, and Epic doesn't like telling players one of the available toys can only be found in one of the toyboxes unless it's that old raggedy ann doll that no really wants. I mean, Fortnite has a couple console exclusive skins, I have a PC one for some reason I can't recall, but they're original designs that I've never seen anyone actually play as. I'm sure there are people who like them, but they're nothing crowds are gonna fight over. Samus on the other hand? Yeah people will absolutely fight over Samus.

Send s bunch of chaos sonic marines and they're all toast. Hell, send a beta class psyker and they're all super toast.

To little for them. To large for us

True, but give them a world or several where they can breed in peace for a few generations... And I don't mean among themselves, but with humans. Those 49 Viltrumites could turn into legions within generations depending on how the Viltrumites go about it.

Yet 49 Viltrumites is more then enough for most situations in Warhammer 40k. Especially if the weaker ones can bust open continents on average.

​Yea that's definitely not enough. Plenty of imperial worlds would fall but the imperium definitely has enough firepower, bodies, and worlds to spare to halt any meaningful expansion they could do especially since they're genepool is already getting king tut thin. Viltrumites can tank a lot but a version of omniman got killed by a bomb that wiped out Europe im betting the imperium could match that.

I’m not so sure, I feel like people are really underestimating the Chaos gods sometimes. But that could also be just me not really as deep into the Elderscrolls lore.

Absolutely correct! I feel that the same would be true for Guardians from destiny

@@kaijukingdom2686 Imagine chaos gods but 17 of them. Also, the most powerful one is the crazy one. There's like a 50/50 chance he would get along with Tzeentch though. Oblivion and the warp might as well be the same place. Daedra and chaos demons operate by essentially the same rules with some minor differences. For example, Sheogorath can just show up in the mortal world when he feels like it. None of the others can do that, but he seems to be able to. Imagine Khorn just showing up instead of needing a champion.

@@scottphillips6005 hmmmm, I can see your point. However I would reiterate that while you could be right, my counter is…The chaos gods aren’t just connected to one reality, they are connected to other realities, other universes. While i didn’t read the book someone did mention the Archaon the ever chosen tried destroying Chaos gods, only to find that out that there other worlds similar to his own where these gods spread their influence in.

As someone who loves TES and Skyrim in particular, 40k stomps. And they stomp _hard_

Chaos gets stronger. All those Fortnite potential Cultists

They have more than a few hundred Titans. Also, those things generally aren't deployed at all without conventional heavy mechanized units, artillery cover, and infantry already having gotten stuck in and providing a forward line. Conventional heavy mechanized units, if expecting enemy heavy walkers, often include a smattering of super-heavy tanks, armed both as general breakthrough vehicles and specialized variants with anti-Titan weaponry considerably nastier than an AC/20. And this is just the Imperial Guard and Mechanicus coming to play.

Urbie go curbie. :)

​@@crowe6961To be fair, in Battletech Battlemechs are often supported by Infantry, Aerospace units, Armor, Battle Armor and Artillery as well most of the time for big fights. The unit sizes are smaller than the Imperiums, but for Basic Tech Battletech is actually better on that scale. TOAD Battle Armor is superior to any Mark of Space Marine armor, and can have a normal ass dude in it, Lazer Mauser standard Battle Rifle is just a Hotshot Lazgun, etc. Infantry vs Infantry Battletech ironically hard stomps, but once we get to the Mechs Battletech loses hard. Don't even bring up Warships vs the Imperium. Battletechs Warships are some of if not the most realistic combat spaceships in fiction. And as such they get turned into little more than Target Practice for the Imperial Navy (When they even have Warships around)

@@ssjjshawn There's a mentality difference, though. If you keep mowing down the Imperial Guard, rather than running out of men, they tend to start bringing in equally large or even more numerous units who _don't care_ about taking 80% losses on the advance and will continue to slowly grind down the position with artillery, mechanized pushes when they detect weakness, and constant infantry assaults that cause fatigue and logistical strain across the line. 10 million losses? Send the Munitorum the bill, they'll just call Krieg again if they're not too busy in the Octarius Sector or whatever.

@@crowe6961 Then Battletech busts out its conscripts, death row prisoners, mercs or its own specialized attrition units. Eventually yeah 40k wins via scale, but squad vs squad Battletech wins.

Canonically, the WoL has defeated a chaos god of despair. And turned it into a collectible pet. Not even joking.

@thomascranor2668 I can't wait to farm The Golden Throne (Extreme) for a mount I will never use.

It'd probably be the golden throne itself. Lol

Agree and disagree. Depending on the guardian, someone like Ikora, Saint, and other prominent top-tiers would do fine for the most part. But most guardians aren’t actually as powerful as them or the player character. Sure they still have insane Light/Dark abilities, but they can still be killed via conventional means like bullet fire. And ghosts aren’t immune to non-paracausal firepower either like most people think, they can be killed through normal means so long as there’s enough force placed on it.

@@weaboojones2178I believe it was stated that you needed something like a heavy artillery barrage to destroy a ghost with conventional weapons, though I could be wrong about that. Basic Guardians still fight and kill beings that are a lot like Astartes for sport, so yeah.

​@@Azorees-oj5zryou need to be in a Darkness Zone as well for said heavy artillery to even be able to do anything

@@whatthefeebas2505 I think that’s just gameplay.

@@Azorees-oj5zr no, the Darkness Zones are canon now. They're apparently areas where remnants of Darkness back from the Collapse continue to linger. It's like Darkness kinda just... stained the area I guess? And now it's tained.

Chaos Battletech casualties are very rarely in the Low Billions 40k casualties go into the Quadrillions

@@christiandauz3742 Buddy, are you just wanking Chaos as your argument to everything? Wow, and I thought 40k stans couldn't get more predictable.

@@christiandauz3742 oh yeah, if it came down to a battle of attrition, 40k is going to win, they simply have more bodies to throw at a problem.

Yes, yes, YESYESYES!!! Chaos Vong, Chaos Viltrumites, Chaos Supreme Commanders, Chaos Forerunners

@@christiandauz3742 Time Lords erase Chaos.

@@christiandauz3742 Did you just Say VONG!? Oh hell no, those freaks aren't getting that! DEPLOY ALL BIOWEAPONS AND PREPARE FOR DELTA ZERO FLEET BOMBARDMENTS!!

@kabob0077 Dr. Who is mid...

@@imaran1303 Did you even pay attention to all the variables and factors to even begin to imagine the true wide gap of power separating Endgame Stellaris factions amd especially the Modded factions like the Aeternum and Stellarborne from Warhammer 40k factions? Just how wide the technology gap is and how exponential can become? Tell me. What can the Necrons even hope to do against a Birch World with the durability to surround a super massive black hole and lines and defenses that are literal Gigastructures up to themselves? What can the Tyranids do against something which uses superior technology and weapons tactics and strageies and has access to resources which harvest stars to outpace them?

@@imaran1303 What the hell are you talking about? Astartes never punched planets. Who the hell gave you that nonsensical perception? Emperor class Psykers? Wtf are you talking about? This isn't in Warhammer 40k lore. It sounds like pure made up nonsense because never once did that happen.

@@thorshammer7883 Yeah, that's the point. Pulling out mods/fan-content for a game setting that changes the game's limitations is outside the scope of the setting's power limits.

@@devilsluk These mods atleast have their own self contained continuality and I can include them if I so choose to in a logical manner. I am self aware about these things. The nonsensical claims like Astartes punching planets has no continuality in of itself.

@@thorshammer7883 he wasnt making claims he was using the mod aurgement where mods/fan made stuff was used then he countered with if we count mods/fanmade stuff heres his op pls nerf chapter of marines who can one tap planets

hadn't the war in heaven already done that?

​@@Spartan135 Not on a universal scale before no. All the War In Heaven activities and resources were concentrated within the Milky Way galaxy. Including C'Tan powered weapons like the Breathe of the Gods which to Daleks and Time Lords that is a regular weapon. The weapons the Time Lords, Daleks, and the other parties and factions were fielding and had stocked were distorting reality and causing paradoxes which were ending entire clusters of galaxies in their engagements.

@@Spartan135 Not on the immense scale and level of the Daleks and Timelords. Those two, even the whole Whoverse as a whole is one of the few Sci-fi Verses fully capable of challenging and competing handily with the Xelee.

​@@Spartan135not to the extent of the changes to the universe. In fact, in Doctor Who the universe before and after the time war are treated as completely different universes. Funny enough the Post-Time War is Canonically the 5th incarnation of same exact universe.

It's not never ending. It never happened. And always happened. And is always happening. And isn't happening.

I see you’re a man of culture as well.

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Chaos corrupted Star League

@@christiandauz3742 Amaris is most definitely corrupt, but I don't think it had anything to do with the warp

@@missjayspeechley9213 Who said it was during the time of Amaris? Chaos corruption spreads much faster than the Necromorphs and offers much more power

@@christiandauz3742 It was Stefan Amaris who brought about the Fall of Starleague

The cis could drown the imperium of man if it was one on one thing and if it was the 40k imperium with its stagnation but the great crusade imperium is a completely different story even though it could drown the imperium in the 40k it would still take huge amounts of losses and true they can drown the tau out but pretty much any faction can the cis would get stomped by the necrons that have forerunner tier tech and outclass the cos tech wise it’s not even funny. As for the plasma argument that other 40 k fans bring up the “hot as a small star is hyperbole” their legit exists a schematics map of an imperial plasma gun on the 40k wiki the nozzle is made of an adementium ventellation alloy that has a melting radius of over 3600 Celsius and while it use to kill the user if overheated the imperium has refined it thanks to belesaruis cawl and is way safer to use in the current lore and more common among space marine primaris .

​@@memosanchez8916 Sure the CIS might not be able to take on the Great Crusade era-Imperium but there's also the fact that the Imperium of that era is also actually organized and actively communicating with itself for the most part, it doesn't take ten months for something to end up on someone's desk. The current Imperium meanwhile has the same problem as someone who has had their hemispheres disconnected, the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing and if there's a conflict of interest, a miscommunication, or just someone not telling someone else something important or vital then there's something bound to go wrong at best or a Dawn of War Soulstorm or Dark Crusade at worst. There's also the fact that the Emperor living means the Adeptus Mechanicus are walking a very, _very_ fine line between cooperation and keeping "their" stuff to themselves, current AdMech meanwhile can do pretty much whatever the hell they want and keep whatever they want for themselves since there's no Emperor around to make sure his deal is enforced and that the Imperium is getting the equipment it's promised. There's so much that can go wrong with the current Imperium that the CIS can essentially pick it apart as they please, every ship the Imperium of Man loses, every planet that changes hands, every Space Marine that falls in battle, and every AdMech world taken out of action either permanently or temporarily is another blow in a war of attrition the Imperium cannon actually win. Sure a Space Marine is worth far more than a single B1 or B2 but the problem is that, much like with the Skaven, there's never just _one_ and with an unrestrained CIS with no Palpatine to play both sides into being of the same industrial capacity and equal power there's nothing stopping the CIS from doing something as batshit insane as making the Protodeka a semi-common vehicle once they see Baneblades or Titans or developing more of their insane prototype units and models into actual mass production types. Imagine the Defoliatior from Clone Wars as a common SPG or even perfected to bomber dropped ordinance. There's also the B3 battle droid.

​ @kabob0077 You act as though, in 40k, a random Inquisitor wouldn't have a very real chance of seeing something funky in the Emperor's Tarot and prepare to start flinging all the Exterminatus-grade ordnance they could find at the CIS once they tried to start establishing themselves. Certainly been done before. The Imperium doesn't fight fair when it does figure out there's a fight to be had, and PDF and hastily-mobilized conscript numbers are actually large enough to contest droid numbers in the grand scheme of things, they're just not really capable of interstellar offensive operations. The Imperial Guard is the top 5-10% of the PDF. The CIS would also be highly vulnerable to Chaos corruption. AI and Chaotic scrapcode do not play nicely with each other.

@@crowe6961 And how much red tape would that random Inquisitor have to cut through to get all that out there? And what about the fact that the Warp is a fickle thing while Hyperspace is an exact science, sure the Inquisitor _could_ mobilize a lot of assets but how long would it be for all that stuff to actually get on the move? How long for the Crusade to be organized? What about the travel time from the place of organization to their first objectives? Hyperspace can take a few hours or days to get from point A to B depending on how far away you are, the Warp meanwhile could be insane travel times that you have no idea of when exactly you will arrive. The CIS can do coordinated fleet movements with twice the amount of ships in a quarter of the time and when they say it will take them 16 hours to get to a location it will take them 16 hours to get to a location. You are forgetting the most important and yet overlooked aspect of why I give the edge to the CIS, the one aspect almost every other Sci-fi or Sci-fy setting has over 40k that every 40k debater ignores, Logistics and Communication. You know what wins Wars? Logistics and Communication make or break wars and battles, if you can't actively get the gear to a front you will lose that front, if you can't tell your men what to do in a certain amount of time you will fail at what task you set out for. You know what ground the German and French war machines to a halt in Russia? Logistics, the Germans couldn't get supplies like parts for vehicles to the front (not helped by the nigh Lovecraftian Nightmare that is the parts and ammo for all the captured equipment and vehicles they used, seriously it's a nightmare) in great enough quantities while Napoleon could not get resources to his army in addition to unfamiliar terrain. And for communication, do you know what secured German victory over the French at the onset of WW2? Communication and Coordination between units, the French tanks for example where over all better than the German tanks of the time but the Germans all had radios in them and could coordinate and out maneuver the French tanks. The CIS can have every droid linked to a single ship or Super Tactical droid and have unmatched coordination and near perfectly execute plans, if the Imperium is fighting over a CIS planet then a single Hyperspace capable ship breaking off can be a call for reinforcements that will bring even more ships into the fight or catch the Imperium off guard while they're conducting Exterminatus. Add in the fact that CIS ships can and do operate on mostly or all droid crews even the ships themselves can be weapons, what would the Imperium do if several enemy ships just started ramming them while they're mid Exterminatus? Not much, and for every ship the Imperium loses that's more tech that can be scavenged and reverse engineered for later.

@@kabob0077 Inquisitors are professionals at cutting through red tape, it's kind of why they exist. Some do so extremely unsubtly and just pull rank while others work more quietly within the system. Thing is, AI in the Imperium sets off every alarm bell, everywhere, especially among the Mechanicus, Ecclesiarchy, and Inquisition... you know, some of the primary Imperial organizations with vast political power and private fleets and armies, in addition to the official ones. An AI revolt was substantially responsible for the mess that resulted in the Imperium needing to be created in the first place, so all of this would be taken with abnormal seriousness rather than taking 50 years to be noticed. Also, have you not noticed that Imperial Navy ships tend to be heavily armored, massive, and have ramming prows? If they've just launched some cyclonic torpedoes or whatever, they can simply turn towards the enemy and accelerate to deal with a CIS ramming maneuver, then rake whatever's left of any capital ships into scrap with their broadsides. Imperial Navy fleet doctrine is designed for finishing enemy fleets in close-range brawls like that, after attrition from fighters, anti-ship torpedoes, and long-range energy weapons take their toll on the approach. Also, the average Lunar-class cruiser and escorts would make mincemeat of anything but the most capable CIS vessels, and those are workhorses of the Imperial fleet seen almost everywhere.

@@imaran1303 40k is on the higher end of fiction but it's not in the upper tiers. It does crush most Syfy settings but there is a lot that does beat it.

@@imaran1303 dudes main content is 40k, and its in his top 3 favorite sci fi settings, the reality is 40k fanboys overhype it by ignoring its downsides.

@@imaran1303 You're the one that extremely overscales 40k. From another comment thread, you also think the Tyranids would get Toon Force if they ate Bugs Bunny. This shows that you don't understand how Toon Force works and also don't understand how Tyranids work. They don't just instantly get the powers of everything they consume, it's a process that takes time. Time that they will never get against Toons or characters with powers that enable them to leave the story, change, and alter it to their whims. Even if the Tyranids successfully eat a Toon, they wouldn't get anything because Toon Force is not a biological ability. Spongebob Squarepants will fold the entire 40k verse hundreds of times over before going back to work in the Krusty Krab the next morning.

​​@@imaran1303The problem with the viltrumites is they absolutely do stomp the 40k verse. For starters every single one of those remaining viltrumites is strong enough to end planets by themselves. Every single viltrumite in the Empire even if they're just 50 of them is a living exterminatus. Considering Omni man can stop a meteor the size of Texas and throw it back into outer space what's stopping him from chucking it at a nearby imperial planet that doesn't surrender. They could destroy any imperial world by just throwing a big rock at it the same way Abaddon destroyed cadia throwing a black stone fortress at it. So they could just show up to a planet and be like surrender and if they declined they could just fly to space grab a meteor and destroy it instantly. And considering singular viltrumites can fly faster than imperial ships using warp drives they could destroy entire imperial Battle fleets by flying right through them at light speed using their bodies as projectiles and destroying them effortlessly. And the main reason that guarantees that the viltrumite Empire could conquer 40K is that in the invincible comics the viltrumites discovered that humans are the perfect species to reproduce with because their kids end up producing nearly 100% pure viltrumites. So if the viltrumites capture an isolated imperial Hive world and turn it into a breeding camp in 20 years they would have an army of hundreds of millions to billions of viltrumites and at that point the Galaxy is screwed. The imperium will be in trouble with just 50 of them now imagine there's hundreds of millions if not billions of them.

@imaran1303 where are you bro? why your comments gone?

Chaos corrupts Halo, Star Wars, Battletech, etc

@@christiandauz3742 Okay, Time Lords _erase_ 40k so 40k never exists.

@@christiandauz3742 Depends on what route the story teller takes . Because Humans didn't start showing any psychic abilities until millennia later. So they may not even have any psychic abilities or connection at all really so could be about as affected by the Warp as the Tau are. Which is to say they are likely not going to be corrupted by demons straight away. Or since they are from alternate universes where the Warp doesn't exist they may not have any connection to the Warp making them more similar to Psychic Blanks aka an Untouchable, a psychic Null, and a Pariah in effect. Which would be a major problem for psykers and Chaos. So that is a how they are written in to the setting issue. Also the UNSC are honestly not even a snack on a demons shopping list. And IF for some reason you decide to go this route then their psychic presents in the war and religions means they might just spawn a new god. On earth today Christians 31.5% of the world population. Muslims make up 23.2% of the population. Unaffiliated make up 16% of the population. Hindus make up 15% of the population. Buddhists make up roughly 7% of the population. Jews are 0.2% of the population. In addition, more than 400 million people (6%) practice various folk or traditional religions, including African traditional religions, Chinese folk religions, Native American religions and Australian aboriginal religions. An estimated 58 million people - slightly less than 1% of the global population - belong to other religions, including the Baha’i faith, Jainism, Sikhism, Shintoism, Taoism, Tenrikyo, Wicca and Zoroastrianism, to mention just a few. So unless you would like for say the Hindu religions version which views the entire universe as God's and everything in the universe as God. Hindus believe that each person is intrinsically divine and the purpose of life is to seek and realise the divinity within all of us. Essentially turn themselves into gods. Or the Jewish/Christian/Muslim version of God to take form which all three being Abrahamic religions creating their God which All Abrahamic religions claim to be monotheistic, worshiping an exclusive God, although one who is known by different names. And the belief that God is also transcendent, meaning that he is outside of both space and time and therefore not subject to anything within his creation, but at the same time a personal God, involved, listening to prayer, and reacting to the actions of his creatures. So that kind of god appears and removes all of the other gods from existance then what happens with one god sitting on his golden thrown surrounded by his angels. Yeah the Warp becomes a lot different if you go that route. Also the belief that certain religious symbols protect the people to include holy books , crosses , and other such symbols which appear not only as personal trinkets but in their architecture as well . Ever looked at the beam structure of a building ? They are all crosses. Hence the term Cross Beams . And the Cross is a Christian symbol. Ergo the demons of Chao could never affect them because of their religions And it's symbols being all around them. If there were literal demons showing up a whole lot of people would be going to church ,mosques, synagogues and temples to become part of their religion and be forgiven of their sins by their god. Because that 16% of unaffiliated people were generally raised in a religion and abandoned it after becoming adults. So would rather quickly repent . Making your entire argument for Chaos corruption completely void.

@@John2r1 Warp feeds of emotions, thoughts and actions All sentient beings are capable of all three, dumbass

@@John2r1 You destroyed him.

Have you checked how many Sisters of Battle there are? Sure, not quite Space Marines, but they literally have the God-Emperor on their side and His favor is often made manifest on the battlefield in blindingly obvious fashion when they get stuck in.

@@crowe6961 Both would be stomped on by a mech.

@@elenorefangirl3389 They have some kind of EM-initiated fusion guns as standard support weapons. Fire rate is low and range is kinda trash because mass-produced models ditched presumably expensive tech that would keep the beam more coherent, but they melt very large holes into heavy armor and can easily cook an MBT. Even a fancy sci-fi MBT. You do not want to try that sort of stunt against the Sororitas.

@@crowe6961 ER pulse lasers would shred them from a long distance long before those Melta weapons get into range. And that's not talking about plasma rifles, ER flamers,, and inferno missiles (LRM, SRM, ARM, MRM). Infantry in Battletech have a short lifespan if they don't luck out. So those SoB and Space Marines are still getting stomped.

@@elenorefangirl3389 Are we pretending the Imperial infantry doesn't have fire support and walkers to back them up too again? The Mechanicus loves a good brawl, and combined-arms operations are rather typical affairs...

since we going with supreme commander lets go with its spiritual predasor total annihilation with in that game you had 2 factions waring for what a few thousand years between Core and arm witch was basically Core being people who went the necron route with biotransferance and wanted everyone to becoem that and arm who was basically like naw being a robot is gay. samething applies jsut with less super weapons ( core is the only faction with that mech the Korgoth). out side of that they can do everything like in surpreme commander. star trek is also verse that people sleep on phaser tech being jsut down right unfair since it does what necron gauss weapons do jsut instant. the borg with their adaptive shields, along with their weaponry and hive mind way. also i would put the Xeelee Sequence above the doctor who verse just with the amount of op pls nerf bs the Xeelee Sequence has.

@@coolchrisable The Doctor Who verse with factions at their prime should make the Xeelee concerned. You see in Doctor Who there are alot of fancy universal or multiversal superweapons which exist. From matter erasing weapons like the Reality bomb, to multiversal existence ending weapons like the Ultimate Sanction and the Eye of Harmony both being weapons of multiverse power that can tear the time vortex apart and wiping the creation of the Doctor Who multiverse. Then there are being who operate outside the Time Lords like the Grace and then the most powerful device ever constructed in Doctor Who the Glory which goes beyond all multiverses and manipulate the Doctor Who omniverse which consists of other multiverses as well. The Doctor Who Expanded Universe is no push over even for the likes of the Xeelee.

If you want to see some supreme Commander interacting with 40K and then I recommend looking up The A Stranger in a War-Torn Galaxy: A Supreme Commander/WH40k Quest by bot Commander

It's all fun and games for the 40k universe until the tier one bomber spam blocks out the sun. You think a nid invasion has numbers. But nothing compares to the tier 1 bomber spam.

@@zegawar1594 teir 1 bomber spam with scouts . just blotting out the sky as the commander jsut micromanages his army against the imperium as he goes for T2

The Ordo Malleus and friends would have a word, they deal with this nonsense for a living and do a pretty good job, given the circumstances.

@@crowe6961 the problem with that is their wards don't mean anything. Faith is just psychic stuf in warhammer. A devil doesn't need a psyker to enter a hive or board a ship.

​ @themalcontent100 As if they wouldn't vaporize the entire hab block to get at the thing if they had to? You guys don't know how the Imperium operates, especially the Inquisition. Better a thousand deaths now than a million later, is what they'd say. Better a billion now than 40 billion later. They've been there, done that, over and over. Their conclusion? They have no right NOT to act like that. The cost is too great...

@@themalcontent100 But they also have no defense against Psykers which is just magic fueled up on meth. It's also not just faith, it's reality bending laws of physics. If a Psykers says a demon will die from his attack, the demon *will* die.

*Eldarly*

How do you know if their technology work or not?. Unless it is shown that their technology doesn't work. Your comment is baseless. Heck even bleachs technology and shimigamy might doesn't even register as soul power of 40k. Even 40k warp power doesn't even register as magic in bleach. Just because one anime character that has immunity, doesn't mean it is also immune to other fictional worlds magic as well. They are completely different. 2 completely different fictional world that has something called mana doesn't mean that 2 mana are the same thing even if it called mana in both fictions and acts exactly like each other.

@@timexyemerald6290 I know it because I have read the idw comics and played the games that they showed some of this technology in affect and if u read those comics you know the one mainly making those pieces of tech is shockwave

Chaos corrupted Shinigami

@@christiandauz3742 then that would be over for 40k

​@@christiandauz3742 bruh shinagamis literally specializes on purification. That's what they do on hollows. It's like a hard counter to corruption.

Chaos corruption

@@christiandauz3742 Is that all you can say?

@@kabob0077 standard Warhammer fanboy defense for compensating for his lack of power in his fantasy setting

@@LoneWolf20213 It's so standard it's like the Lasgun or AK of 40k related arguments. Look he's even liked his own comment too!

@@kabob0077 yeah, chaos corruption is basically a scapegoat for power scaling cause it's suppose to be oh so powerful when in fact, resisting it is not even that hard, space marines for example didn't fall to chaos over night, it had to take time, and even then, many chapters you think would fall don't so it's not even that viable for power scaling anyway

*eat 40k

@@kryvex4996 that too

The ancients: Nova delete them

The Covenant would fit in well in 40k. More of a threat than the Tau and too big to be ignored, but simultaneously too small to bother crusading against too much if they don't start anything major with the Imperium. They and the Tau engaging in internecine squabbling at the fringes of Imperial space and winding up creating increasingly large xenos empires of every species that's halfway civilized and not wiped out in the region through the war, would actually be an interesting story. The Covenant would establish themselves as another anti-Imperial banner to flock to, and the Tau might start granting their human populations more rights to keep up, since the Covenant wouldn't tolerate them.

Angron would likely salute him in thanks.

Khorne would love slayer

Good imagination Doomslayer couldn't fight all of Hell at once on his own!!! He NEEDED an army in the DLC!!!!!

@@christiandauz3742 Thanks for killing the joke.

@@discountplaguedoctor88 Thought you retards were serious Doomslayer can only fight 50 Demons at a time Doombreed would curbstomp him

Stellaris: ACOT Mod: SBTG submod: The Stellarborne. A race of each universal tier entities wich exist in all universes. If you beat their challenge they offer you to merge with EVERY OTHER INSTANCE OF YOUR EMPIRE ACROSS THE OMNIVERSE and a bit of their tech. That is the reward.

​@@requiemlul3140 Why are you blending universal civilization with multiverse? And why the term omniverse?

@@thorshammer7883 1. I mean as in they can destroy universes. 2. Cause Multiverse=/= omniverse. Multiverse= franchise specific (like all of marvel, or a specific canon of marvel and its variants), Omiverse=literally all of everything. You could say I guess that multiverse would be the correct term here, bout I feel omniverse gives the right emphasis.

@@requiemlul3140 Can you prove they destroyed universes? I would like to say where they state these things in the mod. And why keep merging the terms multiverse with omniverse? This will only create unnecessary confusion.

@@thorshammer7883 Bear in mind the official timeline is badly translated from Chinese, so I do have some interpretation to do and am likely wrong on some parts. In the official ACOT timeline the Omegans, wich used the same tech as the Stellarborne (I’m not exactly sure they are the same), were created from the Omega Sentience, wich is a Sentient Outverse that healed itself after almost being destroyed trough the sacrifice of the children of the being wich almost destroyed it to begin with. The Omegans fought the Shroud Masters, wich are basically Chaos Gods, and in their war the Shroud was made into its own dimension. The ingame descriptions of buildings have them making spacial anomalies and resources out of nothing. They have literal universal gateways. Lower civilizations they gave tech to imprison their criminals in separate dimensional prisons. The lower civs created the enemy the prethoryn scourge is running from after losing even the lesser technologies the Omegans gave them. Lastly, the most powerful tech you can develop trough them is a device that among others gives you the option to destroy reality. Yeah. If you would wait a bit, I recently watched a guide on ACOT without the SBTG submod, and frankly the stuff you’ll see in there is already ridiculous. You can also search for stellaris maginot systems on RU-vid. The giant white and gold glowing spheres are Stellarborne tech.

The only issue here is that is on the ground. In space, things heavily favor the Imperium of Man.

@@voidtempering8700 nope, their space combat is still pretty nasty, given they throw missile barrages that make _Manticore from Honorverse_ blush. Remember, a Bolo's Hellbore is literally taken from a battlecruiser or battleship from the Navy.

@@TheTrueAdept I know, and it is only 2 megatons a second. Which is very weaker by 40k ship standards, where casual missile attacks output hundreds of gigatons of explosives.

@@voidtempering8700 no. First, the Mk XXXIII (33) has three 5MT/sec guns as its primary armament, and two the main weapon of the Concordiat navy isn't hellbores but _missiles_ and by missiles I mean "make Honorverse go 'damn son' in awe" amount of missiles that can get leakers in the extremely lethal point defense environment that exists in Boloverse (to give you an idea, an older mark in the mid-20s had some 400 hypersonic actively-dodging missiles sent its way, and after the barrage of PD those missiles went through, only some 40 survived at MOST). Oh, and they can send several volleys that way too. It should also be noted that Hellbores send hydrogen at .7c, and lasers are the absolutely *_WORST_* thing to use against anything with a Battlescreen.

@@TheTrueAdept Ok, I messed up the yield. But even I'm reading the yield by 10 times that still wouldn't make it competitive for naval combat. Also, lasers don't work on battlescreena because the lasers uses by Blood are to weak. When you start getting into melting continents territory than things start to change. I mean, even the weakest capital-ship can obliterate an Imperatoe Titan.

Chaos is OP Doombreed was once a normal human. Now, he slaughters entire Hiveworlds on his own Imagine if Anakin or a Supreme Commander was corrupted

@@christiandauz3742 So, how much did the Chaos Lord who hired you pay for you to come here and jerk Chaos off?

​@@christiandauz3742 I was just talking bout a _cat_ for Throne's sake!! 😂

Same.

Chaos corrupted Riku

@@christiandauz3742 I edit this statement, remembering how manipulative tzeench is, there is a shot. how about ... Chaos god Vanitas?

@@spencerc4252 Vanitas would just be another Daemon Prince, Undivided

​@@christiandauz3742 I can see it, though I think he is closer to a chaos god since unversed are basically just his Daemons and all pain they suffer, he suffers which only makes him and them as a whole grow stronger and as long as he exists the negativity of others can also become said things as well. if anything, the warp itself kinda becomes an interesting thought experiment with this in mind, what unholy unversed would be formed from that endless pit of all things good and ill

Where did you get that navy listing? The Empire has a hell of a lot more ships than that. The Empire has 12,910 sectors with 24 imperial class star destroyers and 1,574 other warships. This puts the imperial navy at having 20,320,340 warships, this doesn’t include logistics ships, this is purely warships.

@@Azorees-oj5zr True, the number came from a codex a long time ago. You're probably closer to the truth, but this is likely outdated. That said, my knowledge of Star Wars comes almost purely from Legends, as I vehemently despise the new canon propped up by Disney and modern LucasArts.

@@austinkersey2445 The issue is the star wars numbers are so inconsistent they make the 40k numbers look ironclad. There are sources that say that the 30 ish ships guarding the death star 2 was half the imperial fleet for instance. The reality is that there is no lore bible for wars, unlike trek/40k, so numbers change wildly from writer to writer.

Um, while I do hold Star Wars FTL as a powerful and reliable iteration when comparing franchises, even the Falcon is usually supposed to take longer than just a couple days to cross the Galaxy. Mind you it's also inconsistent, with the sequel trilogy really abusing the Hyperdrive and Solo taking steps towards Dune lore by ironically removing the Spice smuggling to imply that Hyperdrives need their own fuel, which you can't find outside of this one planet. Which is just not how any of that has ever worked!

@@bthsr7113 It usually is supposed to take longer and I was using Legends canon. It doesn't take mere days to travel far, but it definitely takes way less time than most other science-fiction or space fantasy franchises. I was being perhaps a bit hyperbolic, but I was bringing up a factor that not everyone takes into account when discussing Star Wars vs WH40K. Star Wars can resupply and reinforce their troops and fronts way faster than pretty much any faction in 40K, and there is the fact that they tend to have more ships in the average fleet.

Actually that black holewas altering the whole Multiverse. It is canon that the universe it was in got merged with another hence the inconsistencies between it and the rest of the trilogy.

@@Xo-3130 As convoluted a lore retcon to cover for a mistake as DC. I kind of have to respect that.

Doombreed solos entire planets

When it comes to SCP, 40k would handle it quite well, things would only go to shit for them once the Scarlet King comes to the picture.

I agree ancient humans and forerunners would steam roll modern 40K but using prehistoric Halo on it is kinda cheating when 40K has OP ancient lore too called *"The War In Heaven"*

HAHAHAHA!!! Doombreed solos entire planets Chaos corruption

I mean, we already have an actual SCP for 40k and the foundations containment for it was NOT attracting the universes attention...

@@syrienangel4137 Well yeah, because they would end everything. 40k would destroy SCP humanity pretty trivially, then fail containment because they have no idea how to handle it, and then something equivalent to the Scarlet King will get out and not even a living Emperor would be able to stop it from erasing reality.

AND YOU KNOW NOTHING OF CONTAINMENT!

necromorphs themselves aside from larger ones probably wouldn't be too much of a threat for the factions of the setting directly, the tau would likely be susceptible because of the fact the markers are infinite power and they likely won't see the trade off coming when the populations suddenly begin to go crazy, then there are the odds they might be able to mass produce markers that leads to more brethren moons, ork worlds would likely help markers accidently as the mutagenetic effects of the marker signal works best on dead tissue prior to the infector species popping up, so their natural way of life would inevitably result in more and more death so if anything, it could just become a self contained Octarius War on any ork world those things happen to touch down on. humans would probably be the least likely to engage with the object unless it were a chaos cult of some sort thinking it a boon from the powers that be, though if its taken in by a cult then the odds of it becoming a nurgle weapon go up a lot. eldar of both varieties ... I genuinely don't know, the craft world ones I want to assume would not trust this object but the dark eldar might not trust it either but homonculi might find uses for it and nekromorphs could be entertainment in many ways

@@spencerc4252 this is true but i also find depending on the humans who finds it first chaos cults definitly would use it then i also find the mechinicum also studying it and the infinity powerbut they would be alot less likely to fall to it since they have all those cyborntics in them. than if it lands on a penal world shits going to get crazy. but if it lands on a shrine world or any world close to one or a world with heavy inqistor presnce 1 of 2 things will happen they would try to destroy it and as far as i seen the marker is pretty much indestructible unless i missed something or 2 lock it away and studied see if its a chaos artifact or something ( since it isnt chaos they might be weary with it but keep it under close eye) but since humans didnt make it they would possible see it as some zenos garbage and attempt 1 again. Hive worlds lets behonest are going to get necromorphed fast

Facts

Chaos corruption is absurd Turning normal people into planet-soloing monsters like Doombreed

@@christiandauz3742 Is Doombreed your lover or do you just love jerking Chaos off?

70 million with populations large enough for representation in the senate with a few million more less populated worlds. There is 1 billion inhabited worlds in the Star Wars galaxy.

Chaos corrupts them, Halo, Battletech and Supreme Commander at once! Doombreed used to be human

@@christiandauz3742 Chaos hasn't corrupted everyone in 40k so I doubt they'd corrupt everyone in all these other franchises

@@cantmossadtheassad9952 Don't bother him, he thinks _Daemon Primarch Angron_ is the average for Chaos and the level Chaos boosts people to.

@@cantmossadtheassad9952 They literally get Trillions of followers everyday. They just keep killing each other and the enemies of Chaos which ensures only the strongest survive and earn powerful Chaos buffs Imagine if half of the Rakata Infinite Empire fell to Chaos. Star Wars would be another part of the Warp in just years Khorne turned Doombreed from normal man to planet slaughtering one-daemon army The more destruction, disturbing thoughts and Chaos worship happening in Star Wars the more Chaos grows A normal Possessed Human can outrun and are stringer than a Jedi. Some of them have teleportation and can shoot lightning from their hands The HoloNet is infected and becomes Daemon Tech The Imperium kills Trillions of its own citizens regularly to slow down Chaos corruption