The Forefathers of Estonians 

Today I learned where the producers of History Channel's Vikings got the accent used in that show.

Jah, nii on, meie aktsent on konkreetne, nagu meie keel. 😃🇪🇪

Yes

Rõve rõske Eesti inglise aktsent😂😂😂

It's intentional, as it is meant to symbolize the Pre-Indeo-European population of Europe.

Eastory Really interesting video ! But why to choose Aitor if he came from the "Balcan genetic pool" and not from the "Basque" Pyrenee refuge? Really brillant video !

Thanks! Aitor was to symbolize the Pre-Indo-European people of Europe. As Proto-Basque is the only well-known language spoken in Europe before the arrival of Indo-Europeans, we chose the name of a fictional patriarch of the Basque people to represent them. The choice has less to do with the genetic ancestry of modern Basque people, but more with their culture/language.

yes and the meaning comes from Hai tor as the Armenians call themselves Hai of Hai-astan and Tor means grandchild or offspring...The Basque are the tors of the Armenians..see the works of Robert Ellis...and others...

Aras is ancient Turkish name which still using. And Aras migrating from Central Asia like my ancestors did it into Anatolia. Interesting.

Hap N originated in Southern China thousands of years ago and then it split from Hap O. Hap N was brought to Northern Europe via the Urals by Siberian reindeer herders migrating in. Hap NO is an originally East Asian Y DNA group but the N part split off and is now both Northern European and East Asian.

i think majority of the chinese are cousins of kalev as in haplogroup NO. something major happened with kalev and his cousins, perhaps a conflict and then kalev decided to venure northwest. you thought descending from kalev means that you probably have ancestry from north china or siberia?

@@user-ce6iy2nw5o NO separated from one another about 38,000 years ago. After which N underwent a strong bottleneck period and most are now descendants of the N1-L735 branch descended from the same male ancestor 18,000 years ago (except N2-Y6503 branch predominantly found in the Balkans today, among Serbs). So I'd say O is not so closely related, but N1 is fairly close. O is extremely common in East & Southeast Asia (>80-90% of the male population) today, but we are left with only less than 5% of Haplogroup N in most areas of East Asia.

@@Toivo58479 I am actually from Singapore, but of Chinese ancestry because my great grandparents migrated from China to Singapore about 4 generations (~100+ years ago). Actually some earlier studies have placed the origin of Haplogroup N in Southern China because of the N1b-F2930 lineage which was grouped as N1*-L735 or N*-M231 at the time. However later studies at this point usually place the origin of Haplogroup N closer to Northern East Asia (around northern China). At the moment we have the highest diversity of basal subclades (N1a-F1206, N1b-F2930 and N2-Y6503 which is more common in the Balkans today among Serbs, it was also likely a lineage found in the ancient Scythians). Also archaeogenetic testing to support these findings that the origin of N was likely in northern China rather than the south.

@Rusty Shackleford closest I have been to Estonia is the local shopping mall.

@@einbatixx4874 the closest I’ve been was when I visited Israel or Netherlands idk which one is closer

Yeah, good point, we should have used "patrilineal descendant" in this case.

N1 is R1's third cousin or something. R and N both descend from K.

@@hersirivarr1236 Yes but their womens are from different origins,hence overwhelming differences.

@@hersirivarr1236 yes they both descended from K near east india and travelled through tibetan plateau ,where one branch went to south and another one to europe.

@@sabhrestman6644 , nope. The Indo-Europeans develope in current day eastern Ukraine and conquered Indian. Return to swimming in the Ganges, dravindian.

Väinämöinen (from Kalevala) = Väina+maine = Strait+lander Väina meri = Strait Sea Väina jõgi = the river Väina / river Viena There was a meltwater watershed to the south of the Baltoscandian ice shield, which spanned from the White Sea, Viena to the Väina, Vistula, Oder, and to the Straits of Denmark and Kattegat. That watershed moved around as the glacier edge moved around. The seals have adapted to the whole range of that watershed. After the glacier melted away, that watershed formed the Baltic Ice Lake and / or the Baltic Sea (and the White Sea). And one name for that watershed was Väina (Strait Sea), thus the people called themselves Väina+maised. The other name for it was Valg (valg+ala), which literally means a watershed, the english language cognate is Fall/Flow and the finnish cognate is valu. Thus the Baltic Sea and White Sea both derive from the Fall area, not from 'white'. In estonian language, both have the same form: valge valgus valgub alla jõeoru põhja (white light flows down to the bottom of the river valley). The edge of the glacier is what gave name to Eesti (finnic este), Aesti, Estmere, Vistula, Weichelian glaciation. That cognate spans from IE to uralic to ket to native american na dene languages. Where do estonians come from? We are the descendants of the paleolithic Swidry culture from the shores of Väina.

your name, valik, means "choice" in estonian!

Not that hard to remember simple haplogroup names.

priezai, xopo4im ljudjam radi

Took a quick look, and it seems that if you are interested in history, then Wikipedia is still the best option: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Estonia

You can also try *visitestonia* or google Estonia + food, heritage sites, music, festivals, etc.

Or come visit :)

Survive the Jive *deep breath* V E R Y

Finno Ugric

WE WUZ THE FINGOLIAN KHAGANATE There is no way you can look at the modern baltic/finish populations and think their phenotype is urgic, I dont know why you'd want to self apply "urgic" to yourself anyways.

usually myths arent all false

Finland is not scandinavia.

In order to get so detailed results, I took the Big Y-500 test: www.familytreedna.com/learn/y-dna-testing/big-y/big-y/

Да

Artyom Metro Are you a New Worlder by chance?

It already has, but due to change of topic towards military history for the channel, we we aren't going to follow up on this video.

i think certain ethnic groups have similar gene mutations due to reproducing in the same area, so it can be determined by tracking the mutations. but im not really sure

No no no no no. You mean I1. Where the hell did you get L1 from? Haplgroup L is common in Dravidians and some Middle Easterners.

Luis G A what is the rest of your dna

This could be true, but Viking was a profession done by multiple ethnic groups and if youre using the word "Viking" as a code word for Norse people, i will inform you that Finns and estonians are not scandinavian, scandinavians are North germanic, Finns and Estonians are Uralic, they have a different origin.

Why not also add J2 (Muhmad) and E1b (Hamudi)

Finland's booze cellar

You mean mainland Estonia, Finland is Northern Estonia

MrTurpasauna Jep

Western Russia**

BrancaLeone You mean Russia is Eastern Estonia. 👌

Yes. The best bet would be googling "Family tree DNA" EnterYourCountryName "Project"

titeltekst hier *Answering this for fellow americans* Try to search for State name instead, there is no full National DNA poject unlike Estonia

Another question: Since i'm male, do i have to look up my dad's nationality? You said in your video that they use the y-chromosome to determine the lineages of males.

First migration is believed to be originated from the steppe. Oskar's ancestor came to Estonia later.

Interesting. Great channel btw, I really loved your video about the Estonian war for independence! The map was amazingly detailed, if only all history channels used such accurate maps when describing battles... Keep it up Oskar!

I think the older R1a was the R1a5 subclade (which I think is extinct or very rare now since 99% of modern day R1a is in the form of the R1a1 subclade). R1a5 was found in the pit-comb ware/Comb Ceramic culture which lasted between 4200 BCE and 2000 BCE. Autosomally speaking, the people in the said culture were 65% "Eastern European Hunter Gatherers" + 20% "Proto-Indo-European-like" (and PIE were normally 50% EHG + 50% something else (something else being CHG or CHG + Anatolia depending on the PIE culture)) + 10% "Western European Hunter-Gatherers". If we break this down only into the HG components then it would be- 75% EHG + 15% WHG + 10% CHG (or CHG+Anatolia neolithic). This would mean that they would be fairly close to the Karelia and Samara EHGs. Here is the source- www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07483-5/figures/4 The Baltic_CCC is the culture of interest in my post.

Autumn is coming :(

Esty is a cross between the Balts, Norway and the Saami. (Norway is the least). By the Finno-Ugric, they are related only to the Sami line, no more. Among the Finns, the percentage of crossbreeding with the Sami is greater, and with the Balts it is less, that's all.

Were did they originally come from? Afrika

Why the polish Eagle? Poles are Slavs, and Slavs are Schythians and Sarmatians

@@samvodopianov9399 Yes. But he can be of ragnar descendant and his family just moved to Poland in some time in history.

@@ewok4907 Alright.

So you are a Proto-European.

Your appearance is greater determined by your autosomal DNA aka recent ancestry within the past few hundred years instead of your distant patrilineal DNA (Y-DNA) which is passed down from generation to generation for thousands of years. I am 100% Chinese in terms of autosomal DNA, I don't look European at all yet I also have Haplogroup N (though very few Chinese carry this Haplogroup nowadays, only about 3 to 7%). :) in my opinion since Haplogroup N originated in Northeast Asia our distant patrilineal ancestor should be Mongoloid / East Asian in appearance. Estonians and Finns today look North European because of European matrilineal DNA and autosomal DNA. In fact there are also other Finno-Ugric / Uralic speakers like the Nenets, Nganasan, Khanty and Mansi who look very Northeast Asian as well.

original haplogroup N carriers were asian but when the N carrier populations migrated to europe over 1000's of years they became what they look like today by mixing with the local populations

Lorenz Kiraly yo my mom can do that too and shes finnish