The Forgotten Tudor Queen - Part 1 | Lady Jane Grey 

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Please have mercy, re-upload without this annoying whistle music

Honestly, the most history you study, the more you see G.R.R. Martin didn't have to look very far for inspiration! 😂

The machinations of John "Tywin" Dudley do sound familiar...

I think it has been said that he based the story on the wars of the roses.

That's exactly my thoughts! 😊 Women may have lived in a male-dominated narrative, but they were still intelligent human beings who could see things for what they were. The smart ones used what they could to their advantage and broke the rules when they could get away with it. Not to mention, men in this era also often get shown as just domineering misogynists when of course there were shades of everything, such as all the men at this time who educated their daughters to the same level as their sons.

I love studying the Cousin's War and how Jacquetta of Luxembourg, Elizabeth Woodville, Margaret Beaufort, Queen Margaret (Wife of Henry VI) & Cecily of York truly manipulated the Royal men.

I agree, she was certainly raised in an atmosphere of clever, strong women, such as with Katherine Parr, as you say. She was also lucky enough to be raised at a brief time in Tudor history when it was fashionable for women to have a good education and be well-read (something started by Catherine of Aragon!), and I'm sure this probably helped her develop her strong personality, as well. Knowledge is always power!

I don't think I'd have dared mention it, but I would have soaked myself in perfume to cover the smell! 🤧😂

Thank you! I'm pleased you enjoyed it. 😊

Thank you! Glad to have you here. 😊

I agree. I saw how many subscribers it had, and I honestly wasn't expecting this level of quality. Good job! 😊

It was a good film! Especially as there hadn't really been much interest in Lady Jane Grey until that point, so it was great to have something that rekindled interest in her story. And the truth behind how her parents behaved wasn't really looked at it detail until the last decade or so, either, so they can be forgiven for how they depict them!

@@HistorysForgottenPeople Oh, you've seen "Lady Jane" then. "I want a shilling to be worth a shilling." Lady Jane got her wish and was then executed. She was some kind of hero. Thanks for posting your video; it filled in the blanks. 🙂

My pleasure! 😊 I really had a lot of fun with this one, there's so much more coming out now about her as a person. Part 2 will be out next Friday!

Thank you! It's in progress, it'll be out this Friday! 😊

Aww, thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. 😊

Very briefly! Although I get the feeling she might not have wanted to stay married to him for long, as there were already cracks appearing even at the start.

I agree that Jane certainly had no ambitions for the crown, and was definitely used as a pawn by Northumberland to further his own desires for power. There's little evidence, of course, that her parents were actively abusive in any way, most 'evidence' for their apparent abuse comes from a passage that Jane supposedly said to her tutor, Roger Ascham, and he was writing with a bias many years after the event. There's otherwise no other evidence to suggest they were anything but the norm for a noble family at that time. Certainly there were other families that were willing to try and get their children socially as high as they could get regardless of the risks (like the Boleyns and Seymours!). Holding the Protestant religion was definitely a big factor for Edward VI, who was worried about Mary reverting to Catholicism, and no doubt had Northumberland whispering in his ear. The Duke of Northumberland didn't care too much about the state religion, I feel he would have adapted to whatever was necessary, but it helped his case to use Jane's ardent Protestantism. And while Jane never wanted the crown, there's no reason why she might not have started thinking about how she was going to rule, and what she was going to change or improve. Everything did seem to be going well until the Privy Council lost their nerve, and Jane didn't know about anything going on outside the Tower unless she was told. I think she saw (probably egged on by her parents, I agree) a way to push her faith and cement it in England, and to get rid of Catholicism for good. There were rumours that Mary would flee to Europe, so Jane was probably told what she needed to be and no more.

That violated H R VIII's will.

Absolutely! I can't remember off the top of my head if Ascham actually tutored both of them at the same time, but Elizabeth and Jane were tutored at the same time when they lived with Katherine Parr.

I agree that probably was part of how she felt, yes. Her family's ambitions for her, once it was clear it was possible for her to be queen, don't negate Jane's own ambitions for herself. Once she was in that position, Jane perhaps felt it was her chance to actually rule, and with that came acting like a queen and making decisions of her own. Her main problem was that the public had no idea who she was, and as a result, they preferred Princess Mary, who they knew and loved.

My other comment to you seems to have disappeared, so I'll pop this here: Henry Grey was 1st Duke of Suffolk through his marriage to Frances. Her brothers originally held the title, and after their deaths, the title was returned to the crown as she was not (by law at the time) allowed to hold that title herself. It was then later granted to her husband by the crown as a new creation, hence making him the '1st' Duke of Suffolk, and she the Duchess by marriage to him. It was a strange system, but kind of like the title would go extinct, before being recycled again for use with a new monarch. So if you like, Henry Grey was 1st Duke of Suffolk (third creation), although it isn't said that way. A recent example is William and Kate Windsor, currently Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. William is Duke of Cambridge (fifth creation), after the title went extinct for about a century. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Cambridge#Fifth_creation,_2011 Sources: The Sisters Who Would Be Queen, by Leanda de Lisle Crown of Blood, by Nicola Talis Lady Jane Grey - A Tudor Mystery, by Eric Ives and Wikipedia, although obviously that one is less academic than the others, but gives you a clickable overview to see what I mean: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Suffolk

Good on you, HFP! Your explanation below should be well enough, thank you! Embarrassment, yes, but NOT on your part...lol!

The creator is right, these are all my ancestors, direct and indirect.