Update: I got hit with copyright strike. I had to silence the music on the landing segment. Sorry guys. BUT if you want to listen to it, it's "Time, Forward!", it's a banger
You didnt tell about the SIC Incident? Where an Ursan diplomat masked as an Orionite killed 3 Antarean Diplomats at the Libratum Island, in order to get an alliance from Antares again, to beat Hydrus and Orion?
They prepared and planned for decades to take over Centaura, but they didn't really plan to take over the other half of the world and the superpower that Orion was alongside its allies.
@@Fancy_Schmancy0dude Their plan is to get everyone on the same page by literally invading everyone and installing a government that aligns with them Not planning anything for Hydra is waay too stupid
@@Fancy_Schmancy0more like unprepared since the war essentially started because of the sudden death to both sides representatives, not only centauran continent is still not fully developed and unrests are everywhere in conquered continent making antares doomed at the start. The timeline is similar to ww2 Japanese campaign, they conquer many lands but still they can't control all of them let alone enough manpower, resources and factory
@@nathyboi21 Probably because most nations Antares fought in was weaker (especially when the technology is meh) than Orion & Hydrus + Northern Centauran nations combined
Some corrections about the video: 1. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="73">1:13</a> The 1948 Antarean surprise attack on Orion did not only occur in Port Delphinus, but also Palmsville 2. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="97">1:37</a> The Battle of Yelman Sea was originally fought by Hydrus vs Ursa, Hydrus lost almost all capital ships and called Orion for help. Later, Orion sent help to Yelman Sea and pushed Ursa out of Yelman Sea 3. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="172">2:52</a> The Antarean Imperial Army pushed much more in the Libran Campaign and the campaign surely did not only last until 1950 (or else the Southern Antares would probably be invaded by the Compact). It was more possible that it was held as a stalemate until 1955 (when the Compact landed on Skorpii Riaa and Antares sent the army to the north) 4. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="212">3:32</a> The Battle of Southern Ursan Coast should have been fought by both Hydrus and Orion if the enemy was Antares and Ursa. Hydrus would almost strike out from the war if there wasn’t Orionite support. Hydrus had no capability to fight both Antares and Ursa after Yelman Sea (the Navy of the Commonwealth was the weakest among the four main powers) 5. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="277">4:37</a> ORS Lambda should not be here. The Lambda class was finished in 1951 so it was impossible for Lambda to fight in 1948. It would be more reasonable for the destroyer to be the Himalia class (ORS Himalia / ORS Carme) 6. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="298">4:58</a> Belt was not a warship. Instead, it was the name for the Orionite dreadnought class (which the three dreadnoughts were finished and deployed to fight in 1951). The three belt class dreadnoughts were ORS Alnitak, ORS Alnilam and ORS Mintaka. 7. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="309">5:09</a> Similar to 5. ORS Bullfrog should not be here. She should be under the sea of Port Delphinus (she got bombed to death by the Antarean Imperial Navy’s aircrafts) 8. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="314">5:14</a> Also the same mistake as 5. AIS Skorpio should not be in the battle as she was finished in 1952 - 1953. In fact, the super carrier was only be designed after 1951 (when both Antares and Orion found that they needed air supremacy instead of big guns) 9. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="409">6:49</a> I’m not quite sure about this one. However, the Compact might have landed on Tucana in 1955 as there is a lore post about the war crime of Orionite soldiers torturing an Antarean priest in 1955 Riaa. Which means that the Battle of Sagittarius Strait might have been broken out and won by the Compact in 1955. 10. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="425">7:05</a> - <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="508">8:28</a> In 1951, Ursa was still standing and the Ursan Federal Navy had not collapsed yet. There was no way the Ursan mainland was invaded, especially by the Commonwealth (at that time the Commonwealth was probably working on HCS Serpens). Ursa collapsed due to a 3-sided war. This 3-sided situation would not occur before 1954 or 1956, until Antares found that the LIZ incident was planned by Ursa and declared war on Ursa. Ursa would be invaded by both the Compact and Antares. The Ursan territory would be engulfed in revolts and rebellions siding with the Compact would appear. The possible situation would be: the Federation of Ursa controlling the North, the Dragon Compact controlling and expanding in the South Eastern, the Antarean Imperial Army controlling and expanding in the South Western. 11. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="758">12:38</a> I’ve watched your previous video about the Centauran War. There are no official flags of Vega, Grusa, Centauri, Tucana, Vulpa, Lacerta, Skorpii Grusi, Skorpii Corvus and Skorpii Riaa (at least not posted before this comment was sent). Though it’s still cool that you designed some flags for them. 12. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="768">12:48</a> Just a wording mistake. Tucana, Riaa and Centauri were not formed. They were RESTORED 13. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="793">13:13</a> - <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="906">15:06</a> There is no lore posted about the Compact’s Army movement after they have landed on Northern Centaura. Here are some of my predictions: Skorpii Corvus and Skorpii Grusi probably wouldn’t fall that quick. The whole process might be: half of Columba was liberated but the southern desert, half of the Skorpii Grusi was invaded by the summer of 1958. Columba would have been liberated at the same time or before that. Ravo would fall by the end of 1958 or even 1959. By 1960, both Skorpiis would fall to the Dragon Compact. Aquila and Cetus would probably also be liberated from Antares in 1960. The Dragon Compact would also invade the south of Antares from Libra and now Antares would fight a 2-sided war from North and South (1911 Cetus moment). In 1961, Skorpius would have fallen to the Dragon Compact and Aran Tau, emperor of Antares would have been captured. (Reminder: the whole 13 is my prediction not official lore, the official lore has not been updated after the Aquilan campaign 1914 for Centauran War and the Forman War lore is mostly about equipment and warships but not battles) 14. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="928">15:28</a> Nice guess. However, the whole Forman War was estimated to be 80 - 90 Million death (not sure about this I can’t find the original message in Discord)
I wasn't initially sure if Palmsville was even in Port Delphinus since there isn't minute detail about the places of interests. I couldn't also find many details (or maybe I didn't look hard enough) about these warships. And for the 13th statement I tried to squeeze in as many Compact soldiers to match with the year duration. About 9, the lore says that Compact troops landed on eastern Tucana in 1956. But anyways, thank you for pointing out some mistakes my animation
I feel like the only reason antares managed to do a big conquest of centaura is because coalitions were formed too late. They picking them 1 by 1 until finally a coalition formed but it was too late Antares was already massive and was a superpower. But in the 2nd war every country formed a coalition to fight back antares.
I am pretty sure that lore-wise the Forman wars had ALOT MORE CASULTIES like tens of millions possibly like 100 million+. I am sure it says it somewhere on the lore posts (also keep in mind all the civilian casualties, countries like Riaa and Columba suffered ALOT OF CIVILLIAN CASULTEIS because of Antarean xenophobia and war crimes). Keep in mind that Forma in landmass is MUCH bigger then our own earth, and due to this countries are bigger and can support much bigger populations then in real life by us on earth.
@@1045HourVitality ''The total deaths caused by the Centauran War was around 100-million to 135-million deaths, though these estimates vary by country. The Forman War’s death toll, excluding the previous Centauran War’s count, was 50-million deaths. This is the official death toll from Orion. In total, the Centauran and Forman Wars combined cost around 150- to 185-million deaths over the span of 53 years.'' (I took this from the Centaura Wiki)
Mistakes in some battles: Port Delphinus: -Palmsville is not located on the Madison island -Antares captured half of the Madison island -The attack was split into 2 battles, one on the Madison island, one on the Orion's mainland, they attacked and captured half of Madison island as said. On the mainland, they attacked Palmsville, but are pushed back and retreated Libran Campaign: -The campaign lasted longer than just 2 years -Antares captured the Western big Island -Orion ends the stalemate somewhere in the late 50s Ursan landfall: -Ursa fell by 1954 -A while before that, people has found out that the war was caused by them, which kickstart the Ursan Blunder, they are being attacked by Compact, Antares and the Ursan rebels Centaura liberation: -Skorpius is located by the coast
The Amount of riaan Rebel casualties seems very low, it would've likely been hell for the Antareans to Maintain control over the region because Partisans would have fled into the tundra and mountains and waged a guerrilla war until the allies landed on riaan soil
I can't believe that the world in centaura are big than our us 3 time but after Forman war, they just have 50 million casualties ( from fandom wiki), it less casualties than the Centaura war 100 million casualties ( from fandom wiki too).
Ursan Submarine Skirmish are somewhat similar to the battle of atlantic where Wehrmacht Navy put up a dogging resistance on British American Soldiers those submarines target are supply merchant ships this made slow progress on Commonwealth Forces to resupply on battlefield
the opening is actually kind of incorrect antares was actually only wanting to unify all of the centauran continent, and had basically no wanting to go to the hydran continent However, they only did because of the SIC Incident (i think that's what its called) where an Antarean Diplomat and Orion Diplomat were found dead during a international conference that's what prompted Antares to go on ahead and attack the Orion Republic (and basically the rest of the Dragons Compact alliance) other than that, its good
Here's the kicker, Ursa is the one orchestrated the SIC Incident. That Orionite Representative is a crooked Ursan Cell that did the work to instigate the war between Antarean-Centaura and the free-nations of Hydra. Safe to say they had it coming when every side ganged up on Ursa being the one that started it all. That was later in the Forman War for the event known as The Ursan Blunder.
@@aldrichcruz9321 you do realize Kalvin Tau only wanted to take all of Centaura right? Aran Tau only continued that but not in the peaceful way Kalvin did, they didnt at all intend to want to go for Hydra at all, and only were prompted too because of the SIC Incident they might be conquerors, but they were only aiming for ONLY all of the Centaura continent.
I think the casualties have to be more, in fandom wiki it said the Forman war cost 50m, I mean compare to WW2, this war supposed cost like 50m is reasonable
Even though this is fictional, it feels like the Pacific theator of ww2 2 major powers and their allies, surprise attacks at harbors/ ports, carriers, Antares has a similar flag to japan, and Orion has a similar flag to the U.S.
@@1045HourVitality true but cetus could've either been able to repel them or their fall would be a lot slower due to the fact if they didn't annex southern corvus, corvus would probably not make an alliance w antares, therefore cetus would not be fighting on 2 fronts.
Logically, Ursa would have won the battle of the Yelman ocean, because if Ursa lost, then there would be no Serpent campaign. Where was the Serpent Campaign anyways? Lastly, during Centauran liberation, when Centauri, Tucana, and Riaa are liberated, I doubt they would be able to form strong militaries to support the compact alliance, after being severely war-torn. If they did, their equipment and uniforms would be similar, if not identical to other nations in the compact alliance and it would be easier for civilians from recently liberated Riaa, Tucana, and Centauri to directly enlist into the Orionite and Hydrusite military. Can you explain where the Serpent campaign is?
Whoa, this timeline animation is good! Although my only complaint is the death-toll by the end is far too low for a war THAT long. WW2's death toll was 70-80 *million* within 6 years, while your Forman War estimate was 301 760. Not even close to WW2s -- even though the Forman War is 7 YEARS LONGER THAN WW2. Other than that, this is a solid animation.
I noitice that each forman nation has an english constllation name like orion and ursa for ursan magor. I also notice some of the ships are named after starts in the contllation, like at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="292">4:52</a>, the ursa ship "merak" is also a star in ursan major and the orion ship "belt" is meant to resemble orion's belt. not all ships follow this rule. at around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="269">4:29</a> the antres ship "tau" should really be a cetes ship because tau ceti is in the cetus constillation. i play this game called stellairs, i regonize some of these names.