The Four Things Everybody Should Know About Miter Saw Dust Collection!!! 

I am a pretty heavy-duty hobbyist, detail-oriented, and I really enjoy doing homework before making a purchase. I have watched at least 30-40 videos (plus googling, etc.) and your video is DEAD ON with what I have learned, eg larger 2.5” hose, more hp (if your electrical service allows you to take advantage of it), better connectors and filters, tape to extend boot, etc. Your one video will replace TONS of research others might do on this topic. Very well done - topic content, delivery, concise. I am a new follower!

The shop vac bags are the way to go. Keeps everything so clean.

This is one of the most comprehensive and practical video I’ve seen on the subject! And I’ve seen quite a few!

Hope you heal up fully soon. Just found your channel and have gone through some of your back catalog being under the weather myself today. As a multi-decade Trim and Remodeling/ Restoration carpenter I see we're mostly on the same page. You're for real, not some perfectionist who tells you that you ain't spit unless you buy the latest greatest expensive tools they recommend, nor some clown who recommends patches as fixes which RU-vid is full of. So you just gained a subscriber and I'm going to recommend you to friends and associates. ATB to you!

He said crippled old man 🤣😂, welcome to the club!!!

Changing to using bags was the best improvement I’ve done. My filter was always clogged reducing suck and cleaning the filter made more dust than the job. I also added the separator so I didn’t use as many bags. But I use short bigger hoses than the one that came with the shop vac. It’s still smallish and portable. 2 years ago I bought the Bosch axial glide. No DIY fixes helped much because the OEM shute doesn’t move with the saw and was too far back. Adding the Shop Nation upgrade made a huge improvement. This setup gets almost all the fine stuff. Only small amount of larger chips that can bounce out now escape.

Maybe one day I'll get to worry about air quality. Right now all my table saw and miter saw cuts are made in my driveway. 😂

Thanks for a very thorough video, brilliantly explained. I particularly liked the illustration of the difference between internal and external hose connection - it was actually quite shocking.

Get well soon brother ! I did all my doors and trim doors perfectly thanks to you ! A big thanks ! By the way if you have a tip to hide the nail holes when you are not painting, that would be great. I already bought several wood fillers in order to mix them and match the color of the wood as much as I can... Let's cross the fingers

Noticing the increased production quality on your videos but still the same practical content. Awesome!

Such a good breakdown!

Wow this is a very helpful video. I will be changing my dust collection setup, I’m guilty of jamming a small hose into the saw and using my cyclone setup. Thank you for the very informative and helpful content.

Bought a Hitachi (now Metabo HPT) sliding miter saw a few years ago, which has a larger dust port. A two inch hose cuff from a 6 HP Ridgid HD1400 fits perfectly. I use both a filter bag and the blue fine particle filter. This setup captures a lot more dust and chips than the earlier setup - an OLD non-sliding miter saw with 1.5” port and an OLD shopvac with 1 1/4” hose. However, dust still goes EVERYWHERE. I much prefer to work with the doors open and a fan blowing. Last year I also came into possession of my father’s old Craftsman radial arm saw, and a 2HP HF dust collector. Currently working on installation of the DC. Plan to install the miter saw and RAS side by side, with cabinets to right and left - essentially a “miter station”. Fisher’s Shop published a video on RU-vid in which he built what is essentially an auxiliary fence with dust collection, which appeared to work quite well, and has been copied by a number of others, with good results, so I plan to try that. There are also a few videos showing how to build better dust collection for the RAS. These are essentially very similar, ie, a box (with a dust port) at the fence captures the vast majority of dust particles and chips coming off the blade. Again this approach seems to work very well. In both cases, this approach has one limitation - it works for 90 degree cuts. For each miter and bevel, a different “box” would be needed, something most of us will not bother with. However, if I was making a LOT of cuts at the same angle, it might be worth it, similar to swapping the zero clearance insert. Enjoyed your video. Thank-you! Good luck with the injury.

Great tips. Sorry to hear about your injury, hope you heal quickly. Thanks for the upload.

I had a 50' hose for a pool vacuum and build a little dust vortex collector as a prefilter. I found that automotive vacuum / intake rubber connectors are cheap compared to shop vac specific branded ones and made it really easy to do non reducing connections on all of my tools. The pre filter actually has the additional benefit of being able to easily disengage the shop vac from the system. Otherwise I put a pool skimmer sock on the shop vac filter and it seems like I keep the dust down in my garage shop.

Using duct tape for the dust shroud is a great idea! I'm going to have to try that. FYI... The dust port on the back of the mitre saw is Dewalt's AirLock system. If you want a perfect fit, go buy the DWV9000 Universal Adapter and screw it on to any 1-1/4 inch hose.

Practical and cost-efficient advice for that saw dust generator. Thanks for making this video.

I started using my shop vac on site when trimming homes. It makes a HUGE difference in how I feel at the end of the day from not breathing in sawdust.

Great tips, tricks and advice. Stuff that really works and matters.

Thank you for sharing. I'm getting ready to set up my first garage shop and I've been thinking about solving the dust collection problem for my DeWALT miter saw.

I hacked a diy vortex collector together using a couple of home Depot buckets. I appreciate seeing how much it can reduce the air speed, which is something I've been concerned about. Cheers! 🍻

Double end Rubber plumbing connection adapters With ring clamps can really help adapting to those miter saw dust outlets (and others)

Thank you. I hope your injury heals soon

I use the same exact setup with my miter saw and table saw, cyclone w/5gal bucket for table saw only, run all ridgid tools and their vac hoses are fully compatible with their saws, love it!

Another gold nugget here, many thanks!

Very helpful! Hope you’re back on both feet soon!

This is awesome! Thanks for the detailed analysis!

Thank you! I will be implementing all your tips.

There are a number of folks on Etsy and elsewhere who sell 3D-printed dust collection upgrades for most miter saws. I went with one from Travis over at the Shop Nation RU-vid channel and it works incredibly well.

Thank you! Really helpful.

Nice video. I can understand the Achilles thing. I’m a runner and ultra endurance bicycle guy and have had three Achilles surgeries during the last six years. The first surgery included four anchors to reattach my achilles. I started running again and pulled two of the anchors out twelve months later. 🤦🏽‍♂️ Yep, a boned headed move. Wait for it. 🙅🏾‍♂️ I rode my bicycle 7,000 miles in 2022 and had surgery #3 in December of 2022. At least that one was only to clean up scar tissue. I learned the hard way to be very very very careful. My woodshop is a safe haven these days with my three dust collection systems. (Oh yeah, I’m an asthmatic too).

Showing up with real numbers. Thank you! Great video.

Welcome back my friend!

From one old man to another, good job. I do about the same stuff you recommended. It’s a constant battle.

This is one of the most educational videos ever! The wind speed tests are so eye opening. I have a kind suggestion. For future videos could you rate all your tools based on "Amps" of the motor? Amps are an appropriate and important measurement, because some people don't even have enough power to run that 6.5 HP vacuum. The "HP" number on most modern electrical machines seem to be a random number, without any meaning. For the RIDGID 40108 vacuum, I think it has 12 Amps.

'I tore my achilles playing basketball with my son'... every aging fathers worst fear! Hope for a good recovery. This video is super helpful. I really need to be less lazy and just hook up the damn vacuum.

Old man cant jump, my favorite film. Great information 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

I love the idea of the air quality meter. I'm buying one for sure. Also, fantastic information and a super high quality video. Hope you heal up fast!

Very informative and important information!

As always, things I didn’t know I needed to know!! 👍🏼🙂

Great video. One thing I have found as well is that the bags slightly decrease suction as well. But they are so worth the loss you take in my opinion. And these dust issues happen with every saw! I couldn’t believe how little if any, that my dust collection improved after upgrading to a Kapex.

This was great!! Thanks !

As always - great needed content with healthy amount of jokes, but without bs and subscription. I mean, with a subscription, but it's kinda my choice to do. Thank you. PS: Converted to 230 and Dynapatch myself and propheting all my fellows. Thank you again

Outstanding analysis, nice work!

Thanks for the video, useful to know about the DD not being appropriate for all tools. Wishing you a speed recovery from the Achilles. Strained my hips last year and then needed 6-8 weeks of rest, after not resting them properly for a month after injury. Longest recovery I've ever had and sarcopenia is no joke when you're laid up for weeks.

Thanks for the video! I hope your leg gets better soon

Excellent video.

What a fantastic video! Thank you

Well analyzed, sir! Thank you!

“I’m trying to sound smarter than I actually am.” You and pretty much everyone else.

So good and so needed. I think wood workers are notoriously bad at understanding the health issues from dust inhalation ( I’m certainly not good either!). Thank you, I didn’t get all the numbers and I don’t have a mitre saw, but just ordered my new Dewalt table saw….. any other tips on that would be great. Get super healthy and we’ll soon!

Always enjoy your videos. Get well soon!

nice work. And I concur. Gold dust all around.

Great info👌

Great vid 👍 I use a cloth filter over top of the pleated filter to catch finer dust particles, don't know how much CFM I lose though, if any.

🇦🇺 Hello. Sorry to hear about your injury. Thamks for the great information.

Check your vacuum bags occasionally when using them to make sure they don’t fall off when you’re moving it around, especially as the bag begins to get full. Also, I put some packing tape or duct tape on the side of the bag that faces the filter where the inlet comes in from the hose to prevent rapid erosion.

Great vid. Much appreciated.

Very good information! Thank you for sharing! I'm going to buy a vacuum bag.

Great information. HP isn't necessarily the best way to determine the "best" shop vac. There are some comparisons of major brands to look at. Regardless of the brand, the shorter the hose the better.

I do tinker with the miter saw dust collection. My favourite method on an xgt that has 2 dust collection points is to run a vacuum to each port. It really does wonders.

Great information 👍

Sorry to hear about you leg. Feel better.

Nice video, nice to see how much of a difference all this stuff actually makes. I'm just looking into setting up a little garage workshop. I've been using a shop vac with my saws on site when possible for awhile though. I find plumbing fernco's work well for getting the larger hose to work with the tools (I have the 716 as well). I've been looking into dust collectors as well- any experience with these? One benefit seems to be less noise and also less amperage than a big shop vac, which could be a plus in a rented shop space with limited electrical capacity. The cheaper ones seem to be a couple hundred bucks.

Wow, you remind me of me. I crushed my heel and just had surgery on it. I'm walking around in a boot just like you. So I too am now just a crippled old man hobbling around the shop

Thanks!

A small note about quoted vacuum hp ratings. A standard wall outlet in the USA provides 15 amps of current. 15 amps x 110 volts = 1650 watts. Being that there are 745 watts in 1 horsepower, 1650 watts = 2.2 horsepower. With that said, any vacuum quoting a hp rating above 2.5hp (2.2hp) that comes with a standard plug is automatically lying.

Might be worth mentioning auto-start amperage when you connect a vacuum to a high-powered drop saw. I’ve been in discussions with Makita Australia that say some of the smaller vacs simply can’t handle the load.

Yur purdie smart. Smarter den me which is why I watch. Good vid!

This is a good video, people should think about their lungs more (sheet rockers and welders looking your way).

Before you are able to weight bear (sooner than later I hope), please get an orthotic made to equalize your left foot to the height of the walking cast (or whatever that plastic cast is called) or you may find that your hips etc. will suffer due to the different height of both feet. Good article on dust by the way! Good Luck!

I'll definitely need to mod the dust collector of my dewalt saw. The 6.5 hp rigid vacuum sucks the chute flaps in and closes it off. It's too powerful even with the dust separator. But man do I like how clean the separator keeps the filter

Dewalt sells a vacuum connector I bought DWV9000 years ago and it works great

Do you attach the vacuum bag to the outside exhaust port or do you fit it inside the shop vac? Great video!

Hope your leg gets better soon Mr Funny Carpenter. I have forgotten your name but been watching your channel since 2020. Please forgive my forgetfulness

What's your advice about purchasing a miter saw for my new position

👍👍👍. Thank you

I’m considering a dust shroud, either making my own or amazon! I imagine. They would work the the best in keeping dust contained. Did you consider this option?

Great vid as usual; do you prefer an auto switch for the vacuum or manual?

What was the weight loss after the 100 cuts? I’m curious about the efficiency.

I use a dust deput with a hepa bag without the cartridge filter. It does awesome. The bag never fills up.

Also, use a shorter length of hose which will reduce restriction and increase air flow.,

Interesting math on the Dust Deputy! Great Video! Sorry to see you in a boot! Get well soon!

I use a fernco coupling for the hose connection. Leaves the duck tape in the dust...so to speak.

Good luck with the rehab

What the difference between red and orange shop vac of similar model?

My air quality is phenomenal. I just watch people using miter saws on RU-vid.

Festool came out with a reusable bag for their dust extractor.

May i make a suggestion, please put a false raised heal on the opposite shoe. When you walk in moon boot without raising the other shoe you will be putting a twist on your lower spine/hip area, which will come back to bit you. I broke my Achilles at 66, now in my 70's, suffered with much pain ever since. Interesting that medical people don't explain this to us.

I’d love to know how much my Kapex with CTM MIDI collects.

I use a makita sliding mitre saw with a makita dust extractor and there’s still airborne sawdust.( the extraction starts when the mitre saw is started) extra work for me to do when I use it indoors. I need to find a better solution. Any suggestions people

Did you upgrade your camera or lighting? This video looks really good

I wonder if the Festool 36mm hose will fit on the outside? Generally speaking, if the 27mm fits an internal connection the 36mm fits the outside.

Bags are way better. I use stock white filter for 3 years now with a bag and get 100% suction and still have a clean filter. Bags are $33 for 10 and amazing.

BTW... The RT1600 is listed at only 139 CFM on Ridgid's website, while the HD1600 is 161 CFM and seems more readily available at my local HD. I'm seriously considering getting one after watching this video.

I wonder about the affect of hose length on suction

Also run it through a cyclone separator on a bucket ahead of the vac.

I put a hose on my shop vac exhaust and vented it outside. The big stuff is in the vacuum and all that fine dust is outside. And blows into my neighbor's yard, Fisher's Shop. He hasn't caught on yet.

All of my power tools are connected to vacuums and the big dust collection systems as well as an air cleaner with 3 speeds and a timer

Cheep filter with vaccume bag?