The Insane Abilities Of These Musicians 

Playing slow and good is goddamn hard.

a 100% with you. I'm a guitarist and I had to learn percussion to learn what you are talking about. Make it slow but with groove and then you really have it. "Milongon" has they say in Candombe music

Playing slow with rhythm and keeping pace is one of the most challenging things I’ve done. I practice now at different bpm’s from 40 on up. I really want to create some slow grooves it’s difficult.

@@marcelrodeka That applies to guitar playing, too.

@@Colaeroimages It is, but it is something we can practise to get better at.

Thank you for that!

it's weird for me, too. You can find awesome stuff in any genre, from classical, to blues, to pop, to techno etc. I also don't just sit in one country. I have favs artists coming from Japan, China, France, Italy, my native Poland, Germany etc. The world of music is vast and I am a bit disappointed that Rick is not going out of American music and learns about B'z for example, who have their print's on Hollywood Rock Walk, or Yoshiki, who had a pretty successful career in the U.S. and won Variety International Award this year.

It's why I love Steve Morse's playing so much, particularly the Dixie Dregs music.

Jeff Beck was one of my faves, a total master of the guitar: blues, jazz, and he could shred. Be it fast or be it slow it’s all about bending strings to a purpose.

So do lots of people. This is one person's opinion of what we think without knowing us. Don't confuse opinions with facts.

Isn't that Debussy, but slightly modified?

I agree with your teacher. There is a time to shred, but there is also a time NOT to shred. The best talents can do both and know when to and not to do both as the music calls for it.

Agree, silence is a “note” as well to be considered that plays an integral part in the message

I believe Sting said the same

Tears always seem powerful but really they're pretty cheap, a lot like big laughs ... (and orgasms).

@@beingsshepherd i'm not sure I follow?

​@@stephencroce2033 Physical reactions can be induced quite easily in people and don't necessarily signify anything of profundity. Consider a sneeze for example.

@@beingsshepherd I still don't follow - Being moved to tears or laughter signifies an emotional connection that has been made and to the original point I think really hard to accomplish via artistic expression on it's own. I mean I suppose you could release pepper spray or laughing gas during a performance and people would tear up or laugh and that doesn't signify profundity - I am not aware of anyone having ever been moved to sneezes due to anything other than some sort of physical irritant.

​@@stephencroce2033 Provoking laughter is hard to accomplish by art??? It's as easy and commonplace as sexual arousal. _Bambi, Rocky, Watership Down, E.T. and Cocoon_ all feature tear-jerking scenes but are rightly regarded more works of kitsch than fine Art. Who wants to be dabbing their wet eyes and streaming nose every time they hear a particular performance? "Manipulative" used to be legitimate criticism in artistic assessment.

So true!

Yes indeed!

That's why I've always respected disco drummers too. Anyone who can keep a 4 on the floor with almost no variation in tempo to the point where DJs can easily beatmatch the next record on vinyl (no sync buttons or "grid" back then) is great in my book.

Beyond being a rock-steady drummer, Nick Mason also contributed a tremendous amount to sourcing and creating all the interesting background sound effects that add so much texture to the recordings of Pink Floyd. He doesn't get the credit he deserves for his contributions to their amazing soundscapes.

I find more impressive drummers that play what the band need by improvizing and doing it on the fly. Say, John Bonham who played kinda by the ear what was needed at the moment. Jazz/blues roots. John Densmore also comes to mind in similar vain. Mason did the same for Floyd. Pure technical skill is boring - computers can do that.

for me it's gary moore

@@mongo4utube That's a worthy answer. Gary was melodic and expressive, but had the skills to go fast when it fit. Fantastic player in all aspects.

Fore sure, speed is what you strive for when you don't have that natural groove. That natural groove is something one hears in music from a very early age, you either have it or you don't.

I was with some friends and we decided to go hear Scott Henderson many years ago. We were not expecting as much. but were all blown away by the end of the show. It was how he connected with the audience, it was not just his playing but the music as a whole. I've seen a lot of great players but sorry I never got to see Jimi

I'm sorry, but you're manipulating the meaning everyone understands when they hear «virtuoso» just to fit the players you prefer. There's no need to do that, we can (I do!) enjoy all kind of players, even truly bad players who do something that resonates with us.

yeah but Christian Muenzner is never wrong with his speed, and he does technical death metal & power metal (best power metal in the world, Eternity's End)

I'd rather listen to BB King than Yngwie Malsteem

Speed is one “plateau” of skill and achievement…but there is so much more but it’s still a “high skill” ability.

@@UnforgivenTrucker well MELVIN SPARKS , the guitar player of Fats Domino is superior in fun speed talent than Yngwie. "The Texa Twister" = old school speed funk

@@cerd6292 yup, the best players are emotion + speed. When you do both nobody can challenge you. Technical deat metal guitarists are atop the mountain with the jazz guitar players in this field

“This…is not meth.” 🫳 💥

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Why do you think they call it Speed Metal? LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹

Angel Dust…

Gary could play the same way. He came from a hard rock background and those speedy chops were a must. But very few people could rival the bending and tasteful vibrato in his melodic soloing on things like most of Still Got The Blues and Parisienne Walkways.

IMHO Gary had chops and feel for days. He could do it all and hit me in all of the right places.

@@Pete-Fisher Lol what are you talking about.

@@Pete-Fisher Different strokes for different folks. SRV was deafening. Likewise for Joe Bonamassa and Eric Steckel. Love Buddy Guy but he has the worst guitar tone. Gary will always be my favorite player.

@@adam872 He could play loud (Cold Day In Hell) or soft (The Messiah Will Come Again).

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Nice! I've thought of it as some people try to make music into a sport.

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I always think of Muhammed Suicmez. From Necrophagist. The clearest, most articulated solos ever. But - everything's the same speed, same volume, same tonal colour, same key. And back in the '90's and noughties, you couldn't compare as easily as nowadays. What IS an amazing feat of Suicmez, is that he could shred alarmingly high-endish AND grunt easily and convincingly at the same time.

This is basically it. As speed increases, the articulation of each note becomes less important and the movement of the musical lines becomes more important. That is why something like a scale sequence is likely to sound less exciting at a lower speed than a lyrical musical phrase, but can be absolutely exhilarating when played fast in the right context.

I think you nail it on the head. Speed is relative. When you're at cruising speed on an airplane, it doesn't feel like you're moving fast, but when taking off and landing, you notice it! Jimmy Page was able to generate a lot of excitement playing at the edge of his ability, which wouldn't be considered fast at all now, but he was a master at tension and release, which is a lost art form now and was rarely an aspect of most shredders' playing.

Here Here. Spot on. Couldn't have said it better. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹

​@flazjsg Wow. Somebody that gets what James was all about. That's one of the things I appreciate about James the most. That and his ability to mix and use minor & major pentatonic scales seamlessly, along with others. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹

Don't forget putting. As they say 'drive for show putt for dough'

@@erics7992 True that!!

@@KeyOfGeebz Yep! Michael Jordan's legendary slam dunks are showstoppers, not the beautifully executed passes and feints previous to that.

Drive for show, put for dough !

Guess who is the best at approach shots in golf? Yep.

In fact I think any bass player should know that also in a bass line, the notes not played are as least as important as the ones played, unless you are Jaco Pastorius. :-P

And then Ritchie Blackmore came and said, "Because I am a better guitarist than you." Personally, I love fast playing and find most bloooz dadz to be incredibly boring.

There are a lot of guitar players who can play better than BB. If BB had chops what he said would mean more. I listened to BB when I was in middle school, but eventually the thrill was gone with the same few repeated licks.

Probably because talking and playing guitar are 2 entirely different things. You don't start using vibrato or bending your words when you talk either and you certainly don't hold a word out for a full measure in the middle of a conversation. BB king is literally the most overrated guitar player in history btw

Love that!

@@Tigermaster1986 Ritchie Blackmore of all people probably knows way more about the blues than you seem to do. Fast playing isn't everything. Fast playing and moving your heart is something entirely different. And, yes, without blues, our world would be much poorer.

Right there with you. Fast is cool, and obviously you gotta be really talented to do it, but it has diminishing returns. I like Eddie Van Halen's guitar work on Dreams much more than on Eruption. But what do I know?

I think you've got it right. Speed can be exciting and attention grabbing, but it's not melodic in any way, to me it's noise.

She's totally right. Slower phrases make fast phrases seem even faster and more exciting. Cantrast is king. Same with bright and dark moments in harmony. It's all about light and shade, as Jimmy Page said.

I love this advice :) Wise elders are great 🙏

Melody is king. I love bands that can do both great melody and speed like Dream Theater. But when it's a band that has solos that are just pentatonic noodling without caring about melody, I personally call that just "guitar wankery".

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If you truly love music (at least playing it) you would want to be a virtuoso though because then you can play anything you want to play. "Just being myself" means nothing really other than you just play what is within your current skill level and possibly not those tunes that require a certain high level of virtuosity.

@neomangeo7822 well alright, I'll go practice my scales again and see if I can break 160bpm today ;) Then I'll work on Freight Train finger picking style a little faster and then maybe one of my old classical pieces I performed in jury in college like Leyenda a little faster. Maybe wrap it up with either Eruption again or maybe a jazz arrangement of Don't Get Around Much Anymore that one of my older guitar instructors taught me. I mean who doesn't want to be a virtuoso right? :)

To me it's very simple. Either it sounds good, or it doesn't. The player's technical ability (speed, etc.) has literally nothing to do with it. I could give a flying f*ck lol

@@BrianAndersonPhotography I’m with you on this one!

Some people downgraded Beamon's distance because it was done in Mexico City's elevation of 7349'/2240m, which is silly in my thinking.

​@@carlgemlich1657 The thinner atmosphere certainly did have an effect on a lot of sports at that games - track athletes, in particular, struggled in longer endurance events, due to lower oxygen levels, but excelled in shorter explosive distances, due to lower air resistance. That almost certainly was a factor that accentuated Beamon's record jump, but given that the silver medalist at that competition jumped 6" less than the old world record - and 28" less than Beamon - it's safe to say that the majority of that record was due to one guy putting everything together to perfection in that one jump.

Beamon's record is still (after 2024 Olympics) the Olympic record, although not the world record

Far less known is the photographer who took the shot, Tony Duffy. “On the day of the men’s long jump final and carrying my Nikkormat camera, I was determined to get a good view of the action. With a half-full stadium and with a relaxed approach to security at the Games, I was determined to take my chance. I managed to talk my way past the student volunteers and I made it to the front-row seating. The long jump runway was outside of the track oval, which was ideal for me as this allowed me the chance to take shots of the jumpers head-on. I was only 50ft away and I was one of the few photographers down there as most were focused on the men’s 400m final. “After the first three men fouled, Beamon was ready to take his first-round jump and I was able to shoot over the low railing. What happened next has become athletics folklore as Beamon, competing in the oxygen-thin air of Mexico City, launched out to a stunning world record of 8.90m - more than half a metre farther than the previous mark. I snapped one frame of Beamon’s jump and I recall seeing the whites of his eyes, but to be honest I was enjoying the action so much I had no idea what I had shot and carried the film around with me for a couple of days before taking the film to be developed at a one-hour photo kiosk at a nearby hotel. “It was only after I held the negatives up to the light back in the room did I discover the Beamon pic. It was a sharp picture in which his mouth forms into an O and the scoreboard frames his figure. “On my return to England I sent the photo and others I’d taken during my time in Mexico to Amateur Photographer magazine. In December of that year they published the Beamon image and only then did I realise the enormity of the pic. My phone started ringing and people really started talking about the image. Over time I realised I had taken something special and this gave me the confidence and belief to pursue a full-time career in photography. Three years later I gave up my accountancy job and the following year I founded Allsport photo agency alongside my photographer friend, John Starr. I was lucky enough to then establish one of the world’s top sport photo agencies (note, Allsport was sold to Getty Images in 1998 for $29.4m).

Thank you for clearing that up. Definitely, that was no dish on Rick. It's interesting that I had to scroll a long way to find your comment. We might be anomaly, being music lovers.

I wouldn't even call it a limitation. It's just a different style. Limitation makes it sound like a weakness in their ability. Jeff Beck, Brian May Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Peter Green, BB King, none of these guys are shredders, none of them are known for being fast players (although they probably could have if needs be) and all of them would be on any serious list of "Greatest Guitarists".

Are you sure David “admitted” he would never be fast? Could it have been more of a _statement_ that he never played fast? That’s a rule that David occasionally loosened, though not to the same extent as shredders.

No wonder! 😅 "Citius, altius, fortius". It always has been like that with human skills.

When Patrik Sjöberg set his high-jump world record of 2.42 m we were in the stadium. When we got home we took out a folding rule, measured up 2.42 m next to a door in the living room, and then we stared in awe for 10 minutes, it's high. Next couple of days we did the same for long jump and triple jump. Those are crazy impressive feats.

I was in high school in 1968. Bob Beamon was as amazed at his jump as everyone else! (Dick Fosbury also forever changed the high jump during the 68 Olympics).

@@jimshultz7043 Oh yeah, the Fosbury-Flop. I remember that one too :)

2 underrated players

I agree. It's amazing, all that speed, but not necessarily interesting, much less captivating. My test is whether I want to hear it again right away.

That's what kicking people out of the band is for, or maybe not letting them join in the first place for the sheer WOW effect of their momentary try out performance. Sometimes you just gotta' do what you gotta' do!

I say "Fast is only fast when there is a slow, loud is only loud when there is a silent to compare against".

Comparing Jimmy Chamberlin to Matteo Mancuso is wilddddddd

Magnificently stated.

Yngwie is a prime example!

Nice way of putting it. Playing at extreme speed is physically hugely impressive, but does it have a kickass melody? Is there tone? To use your sporting analogy, Larry Bird is still regarded as one of the greatest players ever, and he hardly dunked.

Well put.

Have a blast!

Through The Flower is my fav live thing they do.. it has a nice building progression that gets to the part where it blasts as opposed to blasting from the get go (which is cool too)

What a Treat!!

Marco Minneman is to drumming what Guthrie is to guitar. You get two of the greatest virtuosos in one show. Enjoy, I'm jealous.

Congrats! Just saw them at the Gramercy Theatre in NY 2 weeks ago! Guthrie is insane, but I couldn't keep my eyes off of Marco's playing. Just superb!. Enjoy!

Seriously!? Do you honestly think people are against shredding just for the sake of something to be opposed to? Or that they ALL dislike ALL fast playing, and don't know that fast playing can also be amazing in the hands of a truly talented player? Or that they don't know that some slow solos can be exactly as you say, boring? If you think that's what's going on you have missed the point.

@@darcyperkins7041 Read the comments on this video and many others and see for yourself. And I never said ALL. Yes, SOME people are against shredding or any kind of playing that requires technical facility because they think it 'has no soul." "It's just musical masturbation." "I don't need to watch a dick measuring contest." And yes, some people who comment on RU-vid post just want to be combative. If you don't think so, you're not paying attention.

@@darcyperkins7041 absolutely. Lots of people are just afraid to admit that they like speed because then they have to listen to all those boring monologues about how only slow music has emotions.

I listened to "Juice" on your recommendation and it is a top song, great virtuosity.

@@rachelcolomb Glad you enjoyed it. As amazing and creative as Vai's music is, some of it falls into the "Difficult Listen Hour" category. On the other hand, "Juice" is easy to appreciate...and it's just one guitar, bass and drums. A stellar performance.

Out of everything Rick said in this video, it was how long the Olympic Long Jump record has stood, and by what margin, that surprised me the most. There has to be a story behind that.

That’s right. There were other composers who were good or competent but not world class. In fact, it was not uncommon for them to write pieces they themselves could not play. On the other side, it’s always amazing that Mendelssohn is left out when naming virtuosos. Also, Chopin is considered a great composer of piano and that is it!!! He is not a great composer in any other genre. Even his concertos are like… bad examples of orchestral writing.

Someone like this guy, who only knows music and nothing of art, will never understand. A barbarian.

@@coreyjones5270would love it if you could elaborate a little on this. I don’t know a lot about classical music but i’m always keen to learn how to listen to it

@@TooLittleInfo sure thing! As an example of a composer who wasn’t a virtuoso but is primarily known for his compositions we can look at Manuel Ponce. He wrote some of the best guitar music for classical guitar and worked with Andres Segovia when writing music for the instrument. Segovia was the most well known guitarist of his era and they worked together to expand the repertoire for the guitar. You even have examples of great players like Leo Brouwer writing music for virtuosos like John Williams ( not the film composer). Chopin was an incredible composer of Romantic Era piano music. He is far and away the most played composer for the instrument. His music offers a range of interest and difficulty so he can be used as performers are growing their technique and musicality. However, to say he is considered on the same level as Bach, Beethoven, or Mozart is a bit silly. These three wrote in most genres and have masterpieces in both chamber and large ensemble. Chopin did not… not even close. His piano music is second to none but that was his only focus really. His concertos are real boring orchestrally. The piano part is great but the orchestra is not having a conversation with the piano…. They just kind of sit there holding notes out as background for the piano. Beethoven and Mozart wrote concertos too, but they were able to create a dynamic interplay between soloists and orchestra. Bach did not write for piano as it was a new instrument in his life time and he was much more fond of the harpsichord, organ, and even the lautenwerck. Yet his writing is so spectacular that it sounds awesome on any instrument, and his concertos are spectacular. The point is that performing is not the same thing as composing and we have numerous examples of people who have given us grate music in genres they did not play/sing for. Mahler for example was an incredible pianist but is regarded for his massive symphonies. Anyway, hope this helps.

A harsh way to finish, just want to point out without any judgement, only for it's interestingness@@ToxicTurtleIsMad

Absolutely. Carlos performs open heart surgery on his audience without anesthesia. I've seen Santana 5 times live; that first note of the first song brings the tears and the joy comes flooding in for the whole evening. Albums 1-5 are my favorites.

It already has been seen again - Roy Marchbank. I just heard of him from an Andy Edwards video. It's ridiculous stuff.

@@flazjsg Roy cannot play any of Shawn's stuff up to speed AND in one take. His 2nd-Look lessons are all broken up into 3 second segments. He's fast but it's more like a gymnastic feat than a musical thing.

@@dutycalls8256 That's it. As spectators, our attention focus span is limited.

Exactly. I'd much rather watch a really great team playing well together than to watch one athlete perform amazing feats of strength, speed, and dexterity. I love Nikola Jokic's game a lot more than many much flashier players because he plays within his role and makes the whole team better. Virtuoso music is mostly soulless to me.

I thought the comparison to Jordan was spot on. It's just awe-inspiring to see what some people are physically capable of.

"Unmatched", blah, blah, blah. Why do guitarists have such a tendency to confuse their opinion with facts?

@@RagggedTrouseredPhilanthropist who told you I am a guitarist? Why do people 'like you' just keep getting offended at everything?

@@ayandey137 😂 I'm not offended, just pointing out you don't know the difference between your opinion and a fact.

@@RagggedTrouseredPhilanthropist okay fake laugh guy I never called my comment an opinion or a fact, so you just assumed something just to get salty about. And in music when it comes to analysing the effect it has on the listeners, how it makes them feel, what they observe, these can't be stated as facts as there are no metrics that can be used to come to a conclusion, it is always subjective. So again, when you supposedly took my comment as 'fact' , instead of trying to act smart while actually giving an insight to the type of person you are, I wish you actually acted smart and presented something to let me know why you think that I might have been wrong

@@ayandey137 ahhhh, I think I see what happened here; you don't know what "unmatched" means. I'll help you out so you know for the next time you try to use a big word. Unmatched means unequalled/unrivalled, it means that no one can match something. So whether you knew it or not, you were saying that no one can match Lane on the guitar, therefore you think he's the best, and that would be an opinion. You see how words have meanings? Don't be suprised if people actually think you mean what you're writing. You're welcome for the brief English lesson by the way. 😘

birds aren't real

​@@mixmastermootree...but they are free. 🤔🤣🦅

The recording was doubletracked too.

@SuperLocrian, Yes Jimmy is a great player. How is he doing, is he still playing some if you know?

RU-vid has definitely ruined guitar virtuosity for me a bit.

There's just too many of them now in yt. As a guitarists I just take my own sweet time playing and enjoy learning riffs that I like. Not into these speedsters who play with no passion and heart

It's not cliche, I just felt defeated 😂

Fantastic player but Satch and Vai come up with tunes,consistently,I’ve only got one EJ album and I can’t remember the last time I listened to it🤷🏼‍♂️

@__Philip__311, It's funny as I have mixed feelings about Eric Johnson. I think he knows a lot more than he shows. I mean I think he sort of plays to his fanbase. When I saw him live, the venue was sort of bad, there was a ton of echo and it was just a mess of sound except when he played one acoustic tune and that was my favorite. I left the show early as it was just too loud for my ears. But I know he's one of the great guitarists of all times, I especially love his chord voicings on some of his intros. Nobody else plays like that.

@@tomruth9487 I'm surprised to hear about the venue, as Johnson has a reputation as an absolute perfectionist when it comes to how his equipment sounds.

@@richardnanian6075 , Yes, I've heard the same about Eric. I don't think he had any idea how it sounded in the audience. I think most people there at the show didn't care or know any better. I have much respect for Eric, I just didn't think much of the venue.

I see what you did there. Sniffing a little glatch

Don’t do drugs 😁.

Are you high right now?

Absolutely that. So many people get triggered by speed it's ridiculous. To say Oscar Peterson plays without emotion is the wildest statement imaginable but it's popular opinion. People these days might also just be afraid of admitting that they like speed...

@provincialfish, Bruce Cockburn is great. I followed his music when he started, not so much lately. You ever listen to Harry Manx?

@tomruth9487 of course. I live in a place where Harry passes through when he's touring pretty often and I've been around the singer songwriter folk music community in Toronto for 25 years. His stuff with Kevin Breit is cool. Breit is another underappreciated guitar virtuoso

Speed= Christian Muenzner, Vektor's DiSanto ! Gorod, Kronos from France. THAT is fast music. Tech Death way faster than Thrash Metal !!

ah, yes, only slow songs can have a great melodies

But Al Di Meola is the exception to the rule of "un-musical fast players." He does plays fast but there's not a single wasted note, unlike fast "virtuosos" who just play fast for the sake of it.

@meretrxutube, funny story. Back in the 80's I went to see Al Di Meola. I was disappointed as so much of his playing was just a lot of notes. But I still enjoyed his arrangements and the band was tight. I think I bought one of his albums and that was about it.

​@@tomruth9487 I didn't mean to rip on poor Al. I actually saw him perform with Return to Forever a couple of years before that too. Even back then, I found it ironic that someone who was so vocally anti-speed would attend Al's school. On tremolo picking, as an example, I wouldn’t call 'Misirlou' fast playing,. You can play a slow mandolin tune while tremolo picking your head off-not the kind of 'fast' Rick is talking about. The whole situation felt like an unhelpful attempt to assert dominance and hump me over something I wasn't even focusing on. I wasn’t any good, never pretended to be, and was no threat to anybody. I was just being offered up as a sacrifice for his prepared statement about his pet peeve. Much time has passed since then, I’m not bitter (we Irish are a forgiving people and can let things go), and if I keep practicing, I might reach a passable level any day now.,

@@meretrxutube Well, it sounds like you have a large passion for guitar, if not music in general. I'm 74 and have sort of given up playing guitar, I was never really any good anyway. But I think just being a fan of guitar or music makes you a better listener and it adds a lot more to the joy of music.

As a career neuroscientist, I have to add: It's all brain, though, where feelings and thinking occur. The heart is just a blood pump. 🤣

Rick had the perfect moment to ask Paul Gilbert about his time with Shawn Lane, and that epic Let it Be solo. I didn't watch the interview, but I doubt either of them mentioned Lane.

Somewhat ironically, he is given the place of honour in the 80s rock guitar heroes video from a few years back.

Best words!

Yes! Exactly this! Speedruns to the end of the songs bring no emotion.

The right analogy. It may sound excessive fast and be 'damn that sure is hard to play' , but it doesn't tell a story. I can hear Comfortably Numb solos and start crying, because it is so beautifully played and every note is perfectly timed that it is absolutely divine. I wouldn't add or subtract anything from it, it was born perfect. And I cry because it tells me a story, it resonates with my mind. I can have it be 10x faster and it will be impressive but without a soul or story to tell.

Playing fast is like running with your pants down around your ankles.

It might be more exciting to watch people play fast, but for me it’s always lacked depth and emotion. I will take Gilmour over any other guitar player because you can feel every single note he plays in your soul.

Davis got annoyed at Coltrane extending his solos for too long. Trane said to Miles..." When I start I can't stop myself." Davis replied " Just take the ****ing thing out of your mouth" 😂

Miles as a performer was never a good "speed demon", his knack was doing slow, melodic, intriguing solos with sultry tones. He was like a spicier version of Paul Desmond (but on trumpet). That's why he transitioned out of bebop, because cool jazz and modal jazz was more akin to his style. But it's not as if he was against virtuosity when it came to his musical partners: I mean, dude practically made it a habit to showcase virtuoso guys like Cobham, Corea, McLaughlin, Williams, Miller, Benson, Stern, etc.

​@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266Miles from 1960s playing bebop tunes was as fast as any top trumpet player...

Miles was still a skilled trumpet player. What made him special was his tone and phrasing. You knew it was him. Much harder to distinguish, say, Johnny Coles from Jack Walrath, though I'm sure there are those who can.

@@Yourbankaccount It's personal taste. Miles was decent at bebop, but he exceled at his own thing.

The tempo of that song is out this world. Genius

​@@suziederkins3310Stevie Wonder's genius!

As good as dimash is I don’t particularly care for anything he does/sings. I’d much rather have a great singer with less vocal ability but with great songs and a more organic performance like Kate Bush, Thom Yorke or Freddie Mercury

If you're not used to listening to music at faster speeds, you won't hear the mistake. If you have never listened to the virtuosic musicians/composers Rick is talking about, then yeah you could listen to someone wank around missing note after note but playing fast and you wouldn't know the difference, because you aren't processing the music fast enough. With faster improvised jazz, I have a hard time keeping up with some of those players, but i I'm listening to a prepared piece, that I know, I'd be able to tell you if one 32nd note was wrong. It's a skill, for me it was a learned skill I honed by transcribing music for many many years. There is the same level of difficulty and same need for accuracy in fast music and slow music.

Glen Campbell said that when he played the William Tell Ovature on his 12 string. He comment that if he made a mistake you probably couldn’t tell because he was playing it so dog gun fast.😂

Oh yes, the great Swedish Philosopher Malmsteen!

Because if you can beat it in trials/ regional competitions, you should be able to put up at the Olympics. No one cares if your team beat the opposing team during the regular season. Are they going to win the Super Bowl?? same-same

@@TheNudeBrewer Mike Powell set the record at a World Championship. Not exactly a "regional competition", is it?

Bob Beamon's jump was such an outlier, and still is. Nothing against Mike Powell's jump, either. But the Olympics are the biggest track and field competition in the world, and because Beamon's jump happened on such a worldwide stage and was so much longer than previous records, it captured the imagination in a way that few athletic performances ever have.

@@jorymil Of course, no disagreement from me. You are talking about something completely different than I was.

Yep Rick should so video on Shawn Lane. Guitar, piano, improvisation, completely ridiculous chops combined with great slower playing

@@MikkoLindholm That's what I'm talking about. It's the biggest Rick's fail. He never ever mentioned Shawn Lane... or invited Bumblefoot. :D

Would be cool to see Jonas Hellborg talk about Shawn Lane in a Beato interview. Hellborg recently played with Mancuso, so that's something.

Speed= Christian Muenzner, Vektor's DiSanto ! Gorod, Kronos from France. THAT is fast music. Tech Death way faster than Thrash Metal !!

> the cusp of human possibility Exactly. I came here to make that comment and your phrase says it.

Sculpture and painting won't adhere to such a statement 🤷🏻

But at what point is it no longer art but just a (perhaps impressive) gymnastics exercise?

@@christopheroliver148 never... it is always art. Technical death metal is based on 160bpm minimum songs and it's high quality art. Alkaloid, First Fragment, Inferi, Gorod,...

Exactly. It’s become so predictable and boring. They think it equates to having refined tastes. Total bullshit

@@irena7777777 classy!

@@zarni66 ?

He is/was awesome as was the whole band

Impresive but they sound like crap. 2 minutes and a have a severe headache.