I didn't know that Vaylin managed to transfer herself into one of the jedi. It would be interesting if she did. I'd like to see a redemption arc for her. I always felt bad for her character even though she does such terrible things because of what happen to her as a child. I dunno how anyone could turn out normal after going through what she did.
It is always a sore point for me to see Vaylins story, Bioware made such a bad decision killing her off rather than making her the redemption story. With her background as an innocent and her unresolved mother issues she was perfect for it. She could even have been a roamknce arc for the outlander but instead they wasted her... and gave is a Redeemed Arcaan instead that made NO SENSE the guy was a total psycho patricidal, fraticidal douche. The writers messed this one up big time sadly :(
Ya, her character was wasted. Very complex, an emotional nuclear weapon..her taming story could go on and on and still be a nail biter til the very end. Although not at all comparable by disposition, the waste of her character reminds me of Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) of Alien: Prometheus and Covenant. Shaw’s character was so built up in Prometheus, it’s impossible to think of the film without her - and then she’s immediately killed of in Covenant. And Arcann’s redemption was thoroughly underdeveloped to the point it absolutely made no sense. In fact, the entire plot fragment was not only unnecessary, the story suffers for it. I can’t imagine why the writers forced this other than to ‘try on’ a redemption for an Anakin experiment. Egad, I hope that wasn’t the case; ruining a TOR story to test drive an already ruined ‘modern’ SW story would be the height of blasphemy.
Honestly, im 50/50 on this, i sort of agree with you but, i also feel her not being saved is the best path to go, not everyone can be saved, some people can be broken to a point of no repair and that is Vaylin, a child who was tortured and suffered her whole life. Having a romance story wouldnt make sense with her character, saving her would also not make much sense.
@@Oriii-uu4py I could agree with that, were it not for how they structured her story from the cinematics to the in game quests etc.. ALL of it was geared toward her and her mother Senya reuiniting and sorting things out and it just didn't happen. And not only that they then throw Arcann at us who was utterly irredeemable and showed ZERO signs of wanting to be anything but a scum bag and went oh yeah he's redeemed now and now you can also romance him and all that was purely because some folks were calling for him on the forums. It was silly the Vaylin arc was a damp squib that ended in total disappointment, which was in stark contrast to how her story had been set up and started. It was just a hugely lost opportunity to make that story matter. As for a Vaylin romance arc making sense, well it could have if she had been redeemed by the Commander, if he had helped reunite her and her mother, helped her get free of her fathers influence and deal with the trauma of her childhood and that feeling of being abandoned by her mother leaving her feeling grateful and close to the Commander. But instead the writers were lazy and lacking in imagination.
@@neowolfsden I wouldn't go so far to say the writers were lazy but they were forced to rush it. Im not a huge fan of how quick Arcann was redeemed honestly, was very rushed.
What I find pretty crazy is how if Vitiate wasn't so power hungry and actually wanted to rule over the galaxy forever (similar to Palpatine's final goal) instead of just consuming everything, he would've easily done it. The Eternal Empire stomped both the Sith Empire and Republic easily, so imagine if he used the eternal fleet as an addition to the Sith Empire, the Republic would've been screwed and the galaxy would have been in darkness until the end of time lol.
My god!!!! Your videos are truly amazing!!! Can you make intros for every character video you do moving forward!!!! And can you do , Darth Nihilus, Darth Malgus,& Darth Traya! And keep up the great work!
Good video. Vaylin is an interesting character in that she answers would Anakin have been like if Anakin has lost his mind, instead of becoming the self-hating monster Darth Vader. One would wonder how powerful Vaylin would have been if she has been properly taught, instead of having her mind and body chained. I hope you are right on your theory of Vaylin at the end of your video.
Oh I wonder that too! Vaylin had the potential to succeed Valkorion and be a benevolent ruler of Zakuul... Would make a cool what if story actually. Thanks for the comment!
Throughout the entire game I had planned on killing her as soon as the option presented itself… but I’m not gunna lie once I got to the lab she was raised and tortured in I really started to understand her. That’s also when I realized that valkorian was going to betray me and would never be anything more then pure evil.
Same really... I hated all of his children, but the final chapters along with echoes of oblivion really changed my mind. Man the emperor is an asshole xD
17:33 - I don't think Vaylin willingly joined that battle. If you play it on the a character who has Senya and Arcann one of her responses is about being dragged there by the player. I suspect she was bound to the player since the end of KOTET.
Yeah she didn't prepare and go willingly of course haha! - Her spirit wasn't destroyed alongside Valkorion in KOTET Ch 9 as clearly we know she appears in Echoes of oblivion :D It's possible she was bound to the Outlander after they / Valkorion consumed her on Odessen, it makes the most sense for sure!
@@SWCentral ok in the old republic star wars who do you think is the most likely canon romance partner personally I think its lana. ps I know non of them are canon it's up to the player choose i was just wondering what you think is the most likely.
SW Disney: "We want strong and independent female characters in our movies and shows" SW Community: "What about Vaylin?" Disney: "No not that kind. She's too good. But Rey? We want her, Mary Sue is the way". Disney Star Wars does not know what we want and they don't care at all.
Nailed it, brother. Nailed it. Well, I think you nailed it. I stopped watching the films years ago…maybe since ROTJ? I DID see Rogue One (which I liked), but only cuz I was stuck in a hotel and there was nothing else on. But ever since disney started using the theater as a platform for their f-ed up ideology bs…no. I’m not funding any of that garbage. Not when there’s so much TOR content out there on YT.
@@SWCentral i still don't understand why wouldn't senya just force pulled vaylin and dragged her outa there even thou she is corrupted. so simple. i guess that's why senya blames herself big time in EoO for "not fighting harder" lol.
@@MakutaBrainhax yeah pretty much! She also hates herself because she allowed it to happen without questioning Valkorion further. That’s why after she tried to rescue Vaylin, she exiled herself to the frontline of the conflict. Separating herself from her family.
