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The Future of Energy | 2023 Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate 

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What will fuel the future of civilization? Major advances in energy production, and the urgency of the climate change crisis, are re-shaping the conversation about what we use to power our world: fossil fuels, wind turbines, hydroelectric, solar panels, nuclear fission and nuclear fusion.
With the recent breakthrough at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) National Ignition Facility, nuclear fusion has emerged as a leading candidate. Many see the ability to harness nuclear energy as a clear positive for reducing our impact on global climate, while some are skeptical of its practicality and safety for everyday use.
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How will science, engineering, and geopolitics shape how the future of energy unfolds?
Join Neil deGrasse Tyson, the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium, and our panel of experts from various sectors on this issue for a compelling discussion about today’s energy landscape and what we can expect in the future. 
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2023 Asimov Panelists:
Peter Keleman
Arthur D. Storke Memorial Professor, Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences, Columbia University
Olivia Lazard
Fellow, Carnegie Europe
Tammy Ma
Lead, Internal Fusion Energy (IFE) Initiative, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Anna Shpitsberg
Deputy Assistant Secretary for Energy Transformation, U.S. Department of State
David Wallace-Wells
Columnist, New York Times
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@ivonnezaragoza5010
@ivonnezaragoza5010 Год назад
Once a year is not nearly enough! Love these debates
@newmexicoartist2468
@newmexicoartist2468 Месяц назад
I have found that, in these talks, the moderator doesn't disperse the conversation between ALL of the 'debaters' well enough. A very few of the debaters vastly dominate the conversation. Also, the constant interruption by the moderator is annoying and only sometimes as funny as might be assumed. I would like to hear from all of the guests in a more equal way. The interruptions by the moderator also, at times, cause confusion in the communication from the guests.
@FictionBlue
@FictionBlue Год назад
I wish these would happen more frequently than once a year! Great stuff! Thanks a lot!
@josephdonais4778
@josephdonais4778 11 месяцев назад
Nice to see others today experiencing how we as little kids felt in the 60s and 70s of the Wizard of Oz appearing once a year.
@malikapollard3618
@malikapollard3618 10 месяцев назад
No. Or it wouldn't be special. It's a memorial, not a show.
@CreamyBone
@CreamyBone Год назад
Can you believe people still sit around and watch commercial television? - With cool interesting stuff like this for free 😁👍
@sebeast1
@sebeast1 7 месяцев назад
Asimov was incredible, and this debate is the least we can do to remember him, his books will remain relevant for milennia to come.
@helfrich24
@helfrich24 Месяц назад
Im glad Neil Degrasse Tyson is the host.
@TheMighty_T
@TheMighty_T Месяц назад
Closed loop systems don't have to use fracking for underground water system flow. Eavor (a Canadian company) use such a system and it becomes a very versatile system when you are not tethered to fracking for geo thermal.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 23 дня назад
My one major "complaint", if you wish to call it that, about Dr Tyson: he does not emphasize nearly enough that science is EXPENSIVE. That technology is EXPENSIVE. That one should NEVER EVER TAKE FOR GRANTED or ASSUME that some technology will continue to progress into the future. That technology happens ONLY because people CHOOSE to make it happen. They can CHOOSE to be STUPID, instead, and slow down progress.
@MikeAPRN
@MikeAPRN Год назад
Awesome job putting this together again! Loved the panel and guest appearance of Jamie ☢️⚡️🧪
@OCTO8R
@OCTO8R Год назад
Have been waiting it all the year long! Yes, this would way better to have two conversations a year. But in any way, thank You! ❤
@gsilcoful
@gsilcoful Год назад
Thank you for this video.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
I never anticipated that this discussion would be too dumbed down to be useful, but I suppose I should have. It really is. To get anywhere with this subject, you have to get into a little basic math, and some charts and graphs. Sorry to have to bring that bad news, but surely it can't really be news. This is not rocket science…except that, at times, it kind of gets to that level.
@biologyprodigy
@biologyprodigy Год назад
I've been waiting for this year's debate.
@rhondah1587
@rhondah1587 27 дней назад
It's not a debate. It's a panel discussion.
@joeyhinds6216
@joeyhinds6216 Год назад
I like the systems mind of Anna but I just don't see that future being feasible with the state of our political/industrial complex. Olivia is spot on. We need sustainable mindset. We need to think long term but with focus on anythingnwe can do now, breaking through engineering political and corporate barriers. Also having energy systems won't be helpful if no one can afford it or won't be accessible in certain areas.. Thanks for the great talk!
@Rnankn
@Rnankn Год назад
Isn’t it that our political/industrial complex isn’t feasible with the future we need? And why would we allow dollars to be a functional barrier to something like energy? Energy cannot be created or destroyed, nature is a complex biochemical and geophysical system(s), but economic is a construct. We can always create money, or value it differently, or forgo it entirely. I really think it is important tot start with what is absolutely necessary, and cannot be controlled, everything else is superfluous.
@DarkenedSpell
@DarkenedSpell 4 месяца назад
Love the annual debate ! But please give them comfy rotating chair ! :P
@ViktorBorgGrelsson
@ViktorBorgGrelsson 9 месяцев назад
maybe kick the headline quoting journalist next time
@apophisxo4480
@apophisxo4480 8 месяцев назад
Great discussion! Thank you!!!
@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory
@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory 7 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@dancooper8551
@dancooper8551 22 дня назад
This panel and discussion was excellent!
@richardwainwright507
@richardwainwright507 Месяц назад
Awesome stuff, just wish it was much longer
@teebee4699
@teebee4699 Год назад
I hope more people start watching these!
@abrahamsatinger265
@abrahamsatinger265 Месяц назад
Not a professional: What about the MIT roll to roll graphene production on a copper substrate. Dissolve some of that copper and expose the graphene to make a copper graphene copper pattern to make a Brownian battery? and using plasma sounds like an awesome idea, but go full circle. Chuck down trash and toxic waste ( past the water bed) and have usable products out of what effectively is a caldron of elements and compounds which you can collect by using heat and pressures. The plasma can be fueled by geothermal energy anyways even by solar and wind.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
1:05 Surely we'll all rejoice if that happens. But as much of an optimist as I like to consider myself, I have to tell you, if by 2050 there is ANY fusion power plant generating net energy, I will be SHOCKED. Any size, just one plant, price no object (for the time being). ONE PLANT. I won't say it's impossible, but that's really out there.
@Orson2u
@Orson2u 38 минут назад
Wallace Manheimer at the National Fusion Energy Research Labs agrees. It is far off in the future, in the next half of the 21st century, at best. Late 21st century? Too optimistic?
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 19 минут назад
​@@Orson2u A lot will probably depend on progress in superconductors. Raising the critical temperature, critical current density, critical magnetic field. That could do a lot to reduce the minimum size of a reactor. And then, smaller reactors can be built faster, and more can be learned more quickly. I think it's safe to say that no working fusion reactor, of any kind, could ever be made without superconductors. That was a key development. But on the upper end, even with the best superconductors we can imagine, it may only be possible to make a magnetic field just so strong, because the constituent materials can only be strong, and at some point the magnet would have to break down. With better software and models, it may be possible to accelerate progress in designing and building better reactors. In particular, I wonder if stellarators will eventually win out over tokamaks. Stellarators are more complex to build, and software could help a lot with that; on the plus side, they should be more stable, and in fact, reliable operation of tokamaks, without disruptions, for long periods, may never really be possible. Stellarators apparently don't have the same problem with disruptions.
@karlstone6011
@karlstone6011 11 месяцев назад
Status of the Magma Energy Project Dunn, J. C. (Sandia National Labs., Albuquerque, NM.) Abstract The current magma energy project is assessing the engineering feasibility of extracting thermal energy directly from crustal magma bodies. The estimated size of the U.S. resource (50,000 to 500,000 quads) suggests a considerable potential impact on future power generation. In a previous seven-year study, we concluded that there are no insurmountable barriers that would invalidate the magma energy concept. Several concepts for drilling, energy extraction, and materials survivability were successfully demonstrated in Kilauea Iki lava lake, Hawaii. The present program is addressing the engineering design problems associated with accessing magma bodies and extracting thermal energy for power generation. The normal stages for development of a geothermal resource are being investigated: exploration, drilling and completions, production, and surface power plant design. Current status of the engineering program and future plans are described. Publication: Presented at the Symposium on Geothermal Energy, New Orleans, La., 10 Jan. 1988
@gabrieltreewolf4618
@gabrieltreewolf4618 Год назад
A great conversation ! Ended where a another hour should have started.
@evanreakes
@evanreakes 4 месяца назад
I hope the next one is about Technological Acceleration. Seems like a suitable debate that is currently taking place. Something that opened my eyes to e/acc were books by Alan Toffler titled, Future Shock, Third Wave, and Powershift. Not to mention Doctor Tyson's explanations of NASA spinoffs. The benefits of pushing our boundaries in how we got cordless drills and the like.
@domdela5217
@domdela5217 24 дня назад
I just started watching this channel, beginning with the 2024. Thank you for setting up this discussion. 80% goes over my head. But nonetheless, it is entertaining and educational.
@jwonderfulsuccess
@jwonderfulsuccess Год назад
Was waiting for this 🙏✨🕊❤ 2024 T O E
@denislemenoir
@denislemenoir 3 месяца назад
The only debate where the MC talks more than anyone else by an order of magnitude
@rhondah1587
@rhondah1587 27 дней назад
It's not a debate, it's a panel of very smart people who know their stuff and some will agree, and some will disagree, but it isn't a debate. Neil will always have tons to say in whatever venue he is at. That's part of his personality. He is a very enthusiastic science promoter as well as an astrophysicist.
@denislemenoir
@denislemenoir 27 дней назад
Oh my mistake, I thought it was entitled the Isaac Asimov Debate.
@rhondah1587
@rhondah1587 27 дней назад
@@denislemenoir It was indeed titled wrong. A debate is where there are two sides and they have timed periods within to make their arguments. This was a discussion between a number of people with varying opinions and assertions.
@snuffeldjuret
@snuffeldjuret Год назад
Nice to see people in location.
@ObsoleteTutorials
@ObsoleteTutorials Год назад
GOD DAMMIT. I emailed AMNH multiple times asking when will this year's Isaac Asimov debate be. Never got an answer, and now I missed attending it live. Seems a bit rushed though, this year's debate, and no Q&A at the end.
@imamiddleagedgoofygoober
@imamiddleagedgoofygoober 4 месяца назад
Hope you get to go to the next one buddy!
@AndrewNiccol
@AndrewNiccol 9 месяцев назад
Tammy Ma's answer make me believe we won't have fusion in 2050, she is a fusion scientist, if she believe we can make it, she will just simply answer "Yes." But she is very coy about the question.
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 6 месяцев назад
Too many unknowns at present. First step was coming up with expensive experiments. Second step was finding one that seems to work and verify it. Next step is to scale up to create a demonstration reactor. After that would be something commercially viable.
@user-rq7hv6lf8c
@user-rq7hv6lf8c 4 месяца назад
It's always problematic to ask what people BELIEVE. So many things are speculative that the experts believe may be as valuable as the believe of a pastor in his made up story. Not to be taken literally.
@user-rq7hv6lf8c
@user-rq7hv6lf8c 4 месяца назад
It's always problematic to ask what people BELIEVE. So many things are speculative that even the experts believe may be as valuable as the believe of a pastor in his made up story. Not to be taken literally.
@JohnRider
@JohnRider 8 дней назад
It is a really tough question. And, scientists and engineers are wired to not answer in absolutes.
@iRossco
@iRossco Год назад
NEED A PART-2 way too brief...or better still a whole continuous monthly/6monthly series all the way to 2050 til we get it done! There were things raised in that that many are not aware of such as guest Jamie's venture. Wind, waves, etc. etc. It will spark ideas in others to pursue or support, perhaps even fund. New & suppressed energy technologies explored & researched.
@horsreseauquebec
@horsreseauquebec 11 месяцев назад
I do live off grid using mostly solar panels where there is low light. The strategy is having enough solar panels to fill the batteries at 100% in a few hours only. So, whenever there is a bit of sun, you refill fast. The rest of the time, bi-facial panels will still generate a few kWh per day in the worst conditions. I made it through 9 days without sun this fall; +- 5kWh of production per day or less, still enough for internet and a computer!
@AlignmentCoaching
@AlignmentCoaching 8 месяцев назад
Well done! What sort of battery(s) are you using?
@horsreseauquebec
@horsreseauquebec 8 месяцев назад
@@AlignmentCoaching Silicon dioxyde / lead crystal. I hope to try LTO soon.
@czarlguitarl
@czarlguitarl Месяц назад
much respect, thanks for the info!
@shawnnoyes4620
@shawnnoyes4620 9 дней назад
You are a small rounding error. There are not enough solar panels and batteries to go around. There is not enough land area and raw materials to do it with solar. You need nuclear energy for process heat and electrical generation.
@RCHeli1
@RCHeli1 7 дней назад
I don't live off grid, but have a 12kW PV rooftop array, and 10kW of battery storage. In summer, my reliance on grid power is around 10%. This will be my first winter with batteries so I don't have the numbers yet, but I expect my grid dependence to be less than 40%. With the exception of hot water, my home is all electric, and my car is electric.
@factnotfiction5915
@factnotfiction5915 Год назад
26:44 - major thumbs up!
@dan2304
@dan2304 День назад
Geology is the limit of supply of both commodities including energy. The geological mechanisms for the formation of most commodities has been well understood for 70 years. Few new reserves to be found.
@joeyhinds6216
@joeyhinds6216 Год назад
Tammy it's easy to sell the search for the holy grail but in the meantime please stop bad mouthing fission while speaking of diversity. Can we please have a thorough discussion of options like small modular reactors and coal to nuclear transition?
@Grobocopatel
@Grobocopatel Месяц назад
The moment near the end when she says "we really prefer you just call it fusion" (instead of "nukes") is quite revealing. Fusion is just a make-work program for plasma physicists financed by public money in captured government institutions and FOMO-driven private VCs investing in startups. The fact they don't really have a superior product to fission nor to any of fission's alternatives in wind, solar, etc., means incumbents need to care a lot about keeping up the hype on the media, propagating false memes of infinite abundance, and of course: branding itself as something different than nuclear power.
@nikolasantonas4647
@nikolasantonas4647 Год назад
Incredible conversation to witness. More please!
@MelliaBoomBot
@MelliaBoomBot Год назад
oh wow. Ive been waiting all through covid!!
@EduardoMartinez-km9tz
@EduardoMartinez-km9tz 6 месяцев назад
Asimov debates are my favorite class.
@JoeHacobian
@JoeHacobian 16 дней назад
1:24:57 Neil explains the common sense and most evolutionary outcome, a common energy distribution network (electricity) where all generation sources compete for the title of most efficient and cost effective per application. He goes on to praise all the competing technologies and says they should compete on their merits and the best in class for electric generation in each category will emerge. Common sense, he also adds “after that I’m not a fan” which is a reference to the no-growth, de-growth green spectrum of Malthusian thinkers. The panel goes silent, because the green de-growth cat was let out of the bag and instantly guillotined, that was what the silence symbolized. To hide that one of the panelists said “You don’t mention wind” which was a misdirection out of the cul de sac. Good job Neil!
@wendellwilke721
@wendellwilke721 Месяц назад
Neil could you see a future without vehicles. Build a system of tubes throughout cities and between cities. Diferent sizes for diferent comodities and put people or goods in capsules and send them. To take it further build cities underground and grow a lot of our food underground. Our planet would be a lot safer for the rest of the species.
@shawnnoyes4620
@shawnnoyes4620 9 дней назад
Nuclear energy is the answer. Also deploying fission-suppressed fusion hybrid reactors. That is a nuclear reactor that uses high-energy neutrons from a fusion reactor to trigger fission in non-fissile fuels. The reactor has a neutron-producing fusion core surrounded by a fission blanket. The neutrons from the fusion core trigger fission in the blanket, which multiplies the energy released by each fusion reaction. This design can make fusion reactors more economical and allow them to burn fuels that aren't suitable for conventional fission plants, including nuclear waste.
@hapah4894
@hapah4894 22 дня назад
Iceland is sitting on a magma conveyor belt. It can sell and supply Europe's energy needs probably cheaper than the current cost. Of course, the set up cost initially will be high.
@VeritasPraevalebit
@VeritasPraevalebit 24 дня назад
The big problem for nuclear fusion to become the power source of the future is rarely mentioned. This is the fact that the tritium needed for the operation of a fusion reactor has to be produced by the reactor itself. It is possible to breed tritium in a fusion reactor but producing enough of it will probably turn out to be impossible. The reason for this is that each fusion reactor produces one neutron that could in principle be used to create one tritium atom. But inevitable neutron losses and losses in extracting the tritium will cause the yield to be far less than hundred procent. The only hope to make the losses up is to utilize nuclear reactions that produce more neutrons than they consume. Nobody knows if this will be a solution to the problem.
@autohmae
@autohmae Месяц назад
I'm glad we had some European representation who made clear we need a LOT of change to get this right.
@user-mb1zv8dl8l
@user-mb1zv8dl8l 5 дней назад
Why do you clap? Glory be to you man.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
50:30 The increase rate of renewables (wind+solar) is, right now, just about covering the rate of increase of energy use, globally. You find that discouraging? Really? That's far ahead of where things were ten years ago, AND it's far, far behind where things will be in another ten years. To me, that's a lot more than just "barely moving the needle," to use a popular phrase.
@autohmae
@autohmae Месяц назад
It also means fossil fuel consumption is still increasing. That said: energy storage solutions are coming online more and more which makes replacing fossil fuel sources much easier/reliable.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
​@@autohmae No, it's not clear that it is still increasing. (Note that I was comparing increases in renewables tototal energy use, not to fossil fuel use.) I have stats for combined fossil fuel use, for 2021 and 2022, and there is an increase, but very small-a little less than 0.5%. The picture is a little confounded by lingering fx from Covid. The 2023 figures should be out in a few months, and the trends should be clearer then.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
1:19:30 The last five years David is talking about are the recent tail of a process that has been ramping up for MUCH longer. It's just that he only noticed the changes in the last few years.
@autohmae
@autohmae Месяц назад
Yeah, I was thinking the same. All these technologies, etc. take up a lot of time to develop. That said: to deploy them at scale and thus reducing the price through mass production, you need money. Lots of money, which is where the government comes into play. And if their is political will to pay for it, it usually moves much faster in the implementation phase. Also the biggest source of payment the R in R&D is the government.
@tringomun1697
@tringomun1697 Месяц назад
Will these deep holes to access heat eventually cool the earth's core if there are thousands of them around the planet? Will it dissipate heat away from the core? I'm not a scientist, but it made me think about it. If the earth's core cools over time, will that affect it's rotation speed or orbit? Possibly over hundreds of years? Great debate, I'm glad I watched!
@aaronaardvark1361
@aaronaardvark1361 27 дней назад
I’m not credentially qualified to answer; but no, not even close. I don’t believe test we could even, well, scratch the surface.
@JustNow42
@JustNow42 8 дней назад
One thing nobody mention is people. We are too many people and we really need to do more to stop this growth. 3 billions would be enough, and yes we will be there or less with our failure to curb the CO2 emissions. Also nobody mention Australia, the biggest coal exporter in the world. Australia is ruled by big companies that are not very kind to the people that live there.
@user-dc2ot2tj2b
@user-dc2ot2tj2b 8 дней назад
my dear you do not need a laser for that that is only your focus on it can be done mechanical, electrical and only electrical that is the fuel for the laser.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
1:08:24 Suddenly this is getting way more interesting! I wonder if what Dr Keleman says is true. It might be. Never really worked it out. But when you consider how wastefully energy was used in 1776 (whale oil lamps, wood stoves, tallow candles, and so on), it might be. If so, that's truly remarkable-although I'm sure there have been substantial ups and downs along the way. But here's the thing: The good Doctor NOW seems to be saying that the next few decades will bring a STEEP RISE in that global, per capita energy use. I have to question that. There are energy EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS going on apace. LED lights and electric cars are just two examples. There are others. There is a constant tug between countervailing trends in this area. I'm not so sure about that big energy surge that so many are predicting.
@generyan2332
@generyan2332 Месяц назад
fusion power powering itself too.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
1:19:00 No. HELL no. That's not that everybody thought five years ago. Probably not even a majority. Those scenarios you're talking about are just preposterous. And I, just for one, was saying so at that time. I have the records of it. Of course, whether anyone was listening to little old me is another matter. But this is not just 20/20 hindsight I'm claiming.
@sunflowerz54
@sunflowerz54 4 дня назад
Helium 3. Nuff said
@canadiannuclearman
@canadiannuclearman 2 дня назад
For carbon sequestration I'm very much in favor of planting bamboo because it's very fast growing it's easier rather than building exotic plants in Iceland
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 6 месяцев назад
I just watched an interview with Isaac Asimov where he envisions satellites collecting solar energy and converting it to microwaves to beam to Earth where it's collected and converted to electrical power. No mention of that here. Is it not a possible solution?
@autohmae
@autohmae Месяц назад
Well, commercial space flight didn't even exist until fairly recently. And the production of energy is usually seen as a commercial endeavour. That said, people are working on these things, but mostly as designs, nothing much else.
@kevinim300
@kevinim300 Месяц назад
So happy I am exposed to this video series
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
~57:00 If you succeed in producing large amounts of clean geothermal energy, that would do a lot to actually undermine the biggest use case for hydrogen, which is stationary energy storage, especially at high latitudes.
@NicoFord-tc5nl
@NicoFord-tc5nl 3 месяца назад
SO happy that Neil Degrasse Tyson hosts these wonderful events❤❤❤❤❤
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
1:14:00 But if you see the system as a whole, and that's the ONLY perspective you use, then you have only a hair-shirt solution. We have to stop our wasteful ways, be content with less. And you know the retort to that: Fine for you, not so great for the great bulk of Humanity. The solution is to go beyond that, and see many other factors that allow ways forward, some of which you've been discussing just now.
@ourlovehowerica
@ourlovehowerica Год назад
💖
@wdvest8333
@wdvest8333 4 месяца назад
He's not dissing on you at your job
@user-dc2ot2tj2b
@user-dc2ot2tj2b 2 дня назад
if energy mesuments is a calculation thing than the energy solution are numbers and that is the truth
@manmohanmehta5697
@manmohanmehta5697 Месяц назад
Do we have to continue living in wasteful ways . Can we not simply live with the nature without disturbing the environment and other creatures on the planet, below and above. Every one in looking on other's minerals and big companies looking for for the Geopolitics and instability. Poetic!
@macanoodough
@macanoodough Год назад
America's CO2 might track with population vs China's, but that's misleading. America is responsible for much of China's emissions because it's American owned factories, American driven resource demand, etc. So saying we only do 10 and they do 30 is flat out propaganda. Because taking America out of the equation, China would spew a lot less per capita than the USA. And the USA is responsible for most of the damage done over these past many years, as well as the coverup going on since the 80's. So let's stop the China bashing, and I'm shocked that Neil even has someone from the state department up there spewing this propaganda with such a weak check on his part. Tracks with population...give me a break!
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 6 месяцев назад
I don't remember hearing much negativity against China in this conversation. But that's a good point that their economy is serving ours.
@derekl6475
@derekl6475 10 месяцев назад
Too bad Prof. David Ruzic wasn't involved here, this is exactly what he works on in Illinois.
@stageiii1
@stageiii1 Год назад
Video is nice. Can't hear anything, but the video is nice.
@robertpawley5715
@robertpawley5715 5 дней назад
So out of date. Hydrogen is not clean it leks and not suitable for transportation not even trains or trucks. Almost nothing on chemical, water and heat storage or efficiency and passive usage or how the limiting factors are not solar and wind because they’re the solution with some storage and most importantly modernisation of the grid and microgrids with HVDC
@davidhenry5128
@davidhenry5128 9 месяцев назад
It is actually extremely stupid to have a discussion about power production that does not include nuclear fission, more so when climate change is considered to be the main point of contention. Honestly,,,,,, be honest....
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 6 месяцев назад
America can no longer build big projects, possibly partly due to corruption. Georgia's new nuclear power plant came online July 2023, seven years late and $17 billion over budget. South Carolina's new nuclear power plant was cancelled due to corruption after spending $9 billion that rate-payers will pay for in their utility bills.
@majorhowell1453
@majorhowell1453 3 месяца назад
What about spinning a magnetic top in space with sunlight? We could beam it to earth. Clean full energy.
@edwardbishop1176
@edwardbishop1176 Месяц назад
Earth heat to generate power is the way to go.
@roger_is_red
@roger_is_red 2 часа назад
It only took NASA fifty years to get back to the moon and they can't build reusable spaceships. The best thing NASA has done in that time is employ engineers. Jeannine
@Orson2u
@Orson2u 29 минут назад
TRUE.
@wdvest8333
@wdvest8333 4 месяца назад
Idea: don't like it? Use the power switch to turn it off?
@johngault-9597
@johngault-9597 Месяц назад
Put someone on a pedestal and they will look down on us so why is Tyson's behavior so surprising...
@anatoliypankevych4853
@anatoliypankevych4853 6 месяцев назад
What scares me the most is giving the technology to such an aggressive society as russian…
@autohmae
@autohmae Месяц назад
You probably should not, the energy/fossil fuel they produce right now gives them power in the world. If the world does not depend on them, their influence is reduced.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
1:25:00 And Neil, do you not think that infrastructure is being created right now?
@canadiannuclearman
@canadiannuclearman 2 дня назад
According to James Hansen of Columbia University 1.8 million people have been saved by nuclear energy by displaying ultra fine particulate pollution
@kinghenry100
@kinghenry100 Месяц назад
Nuclear is proven and safe today.
@MartinGugino
@MartinGugino 4 месяца назад
If I were David Wallace Wells i would have considered just getting up and leaving I could not listen to the "smart people" on stage. Made me sick.
@duduoverburn1777
@duduoverburn1777 8 месяцев назад
This is SO BIAS.... we CAN NOT replace combustions engines... for electric ones ... IS JUST NOT POSIBLE within out plannet... Hidrogen is other thing.. but the energy density of a batery is just ridiculus, also polute way more than building a normal "car" with a combustion engine.
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 6 месяцев назад
Shut down the highways then and make people take the bus, until they're willing to build electric trains.
@duduoverburn1777
@duduoverburn1777 6 месяцев назад
@@sandal_thong8631 seriosly? and the electric train where does it get the electricity to run?....
@iRossco
@iRossco Год назад
No mention of methane which has a much greater greenhouse gas effect than carbon.
@HebaruSan
@HebaruSan 11 месяцев назад
Methane is CH₄, the C is a carbon atom. Talking about "carbon" generally includes methane and the products of burning it.
@user-rq7hv6lf8c
@user-rq7hv6lf8c 4 месяца назад
No mention of methane in the same dull way, methan is mentioned allways in these discussions. Let the facts be allowed to be presented to the recipient in a different way to check if he's actually following the strain of thought. Here: As @HebaruSan explains it, for example.
@AlignmentCoaching
@AlignmentCoaching 8 месяцев назад
We can't build out renewable energy in the same way - the population is too big, energy use too high and the infrustracture would require massive amounts more resources than is avialable on the planet.
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 6 месяцев назад
About 20 years ago Al Gore said we need to tackle it in several different ways like increasing different types of carbon-free energy, as well as energy efficiency and conservation. That's not even talking about a reordering of society to end suburban sprawl. But we haven't been serious about this issue since Global Warming was talked about in the 1970s and 1980s. We probably could have gotten off coal twenty years after making that our objective. Germans got scared because of Fukushima and shut down their nuclear to return to coal. How dumb and shortsighted!
@autohmae
@autohmae Месяц назад
@@sandal_thong8631 Yeah, that was because of politics. The Germans also heavily subsidized solar power which is why it's so cheap now, the cheapest option of all that we have.
@NicksonSilva-bg9nk
@NicksonSilva-bg9nk 3 месяца назад
Replace him as u want.
@richardcourtenay8114
@richardcourtenay8114 4 месяца назад
Sorry previous comment half written. I meant to say "Up till now we have used fossil fuel to make renewable energy systems so there is that backlog to pay for.
@antoniomalynowskyj183
@antoniomalynowskyj183 7 месяцев назад
Como não mencionaram o Brasil, acredito com toda certeza que nós habitantes de Cucamonga estamos fazendo a coisa certa..... excessão para as queimadas criminosas da floresta amazônica.
@markjmaxwell9819
@markjmaxwell9819 Год назад
I am surprised only 52 comments are displayed. Asimov was an absolute legend and science will save us going forward but the change over to environmentally friendly power is a huge task. As is reducing our reliance on fossil fuels in generaI. 😎👍
@estebandevile2706
@estebandevile2706 Месяц назад
Deberían tener Wikipedia de vdd la que si guarda lo que borran y lo mide en más cierto o no. Y esa cortina puede proyectar emoticons así uno habla pero los demás tendrían de que corazonsitos o luces de asombro o alguna fruta. No tan complejo qué pierda el foco de atención como un avatar classi o algo así, más simple más fácil de diluir y sea para augmentar no para diluir la penetracion del desenvolvimiento egoico o la famea fama o la mítica idilica o la Heroica nmemonica
@estebandevile2706
@estebandevile2706 Месяц назад
Podría servir algo como un watch pero de los que si son para wacheart. Y se deberían usar alreves con la parte baja de la palma y la cara del reloj en la misma xyz de menor resistencia. Osea la más chafa o barata. O la más más o la más evidente u obvia o más prácticamente útil.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
1:10:00 Oh, but there are a lot of vocal commentators predicting just that. And I'm just cynical enough to think that many of them think it's desirable. No, I'm not trying to be funny. I wish I were.
@jestermoon
@jestermoon Год назад
Take A Moment My fellow apes For me, wants and needs are the issue. Some people want more than they most. A reset is required Stay Safe Keep looking up Stay Free ❤🎉
@Orson2u
@Orson2u 34 минуты назад
No. It simply isn’t “required”. That’s false.
@csbrudy
@csbrudy Месяц назад
Liquid Fluoride Thorium Salt Reactors are the answer. Proven, and Safe.
@autohmae
@autohmae Месяц назад
And... I think only 0 thorium reactors are in use and 1 thorium reactor is being build right now.
@csbrudy
@csbrudy Месяц назад
@@autohmae 9 years running at Oak Ridge. It would not produce weapons grade material, so they shut it down.
@autohmae
@autohmae Месяц назад
@@csbrudy yeah I know, I meant currently in the world.
@TheCD45
@TheCD45 3 месяца назад
Am really glad there are more women than men in this year's debate. For over a decade, it's always men>women in these debates, sometimes even 0.
@ravicabral2522
@ravicabral2522 Месяц назад
I was really looking forward to watching this but the moderator was so awful with his unnecessary interruptions that I couldn't watch. The level of his questions was more suited to a junior school science class than a serious scientific discussion.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
45:00 But Neil, you're saying this problem can be solved quickly, and without wrenching, deep, fundamental changes to our whole way of life, attitudes, and godknowswhat else. Do you know how heretical that is? To some, that sounds like magical thinking. And that, I submit to you, is a divide in our thinking that runs deeper than is generally recognized.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 Месяц назад
One thing of substance in this show, at least: To sequester the excess CO2 already in the Atmosphere involves quantities, and costs, that are NOT prohibitive. Don't believe that. It's bunk. We have already extracted quantities of carbon out of the ground that are comparable. And unlike the original fossil fuel extraction, undoing that is NOT a mining operation. Complete the transition to carbon-free energy, and this is totally feasible. And for the most part, if we do it right, it only needs to happen once.
@solexxx8588
@solexxx8588 5 дней назад
Carbon capture would cost more than the GNP of the planet. It's not feasible.
@Orson2u
@Orson2u 31 минуту назад
All irrelevant and wasteful. CO2 rise is greening the earth, while we are near or over the saturation point where CO2 ceases to be thermogenic in the atmosphere.
@PabloMayrgundter
@PabloMayrgundter 11 месяцев назад
Not much room for debate when you draw from institutions who advocate the same policies. I also share the sentiment that NDT's image seems to have outgrown his role
@justinklenk
@justinklenk 8 месяцев назад
Here, here. Neil has gone from the popularizer of science I most admired, years ago, to a 'scientific' figurehead who goes as far as to actually _disgust_ me, now. In this appearance ALONE - in this moderator role alone (read: immoderator) - he managed to once again botch or be unaware of basic facts; visibly annoy (for good reason) every SINGLE participant onstage with his stupidity and arrogant ego; nearly constantly distract from the momentary point of conversation (see: every goddamn exchange across the entire video); and dumb down not only the points and flow of dialogue, but the entire essence of the conversation (he always turns any 'conversation' he takes part in into a self-aggrandizing 'uni-sation,' full of his own lazily-fostered erroneous logic, which he vociferously offers up as _obvious_ reality - as if everyone listening at that moment is actually _more,_ or even _as,_ misguidedly foolish as himself). This panel, traveling to and engaging in this conversation, could have, should have - and _would_ have - gotten sooo much further - and sooo enjoyably more, had he been kept away. He's become a disgrace - and that is a disgrace to us, the scientific community which he still unabashedly purports to represent. 😢😢😢👎👎👎
@apophisxo4480
@apophisxo4480 8 месяцев назад
Relax! It's his personality, it makes the "debate more interesting." Which "institutions" would you have drawn from for a different perspective? I would have liked to hear about more advancements in fission energy, not because I don't have high hopes for fusion, but just because it seems more realistic at the moment. Also instead of burying the carbon, maybe we could use it to build???
@sandal_thong8631
@sandal_thong8631 6 месяцев назад
@@apophisxo4480 He's talking about inviting coal, oil and natural gas industries so they will keep telling lies to dissuade the public from carbon taxes and the like. The big Exxon scandal from a few years ago was they had two sets of climate books: one secret where global warming is real and they have to build their facilities according to sea level rising and the like; and the other where they fraudulently say it's not happening to convince the public not to take it seriously.
@BartholomewCounty
@BartholomewCounty 16 дней назад
We gotta get to mining H3 from the Moon.
@jlat951
@jlat951 28 дней назад
God, Europeans are so righteous.
@user-dc2ot2tj2b
@user-dc2ot2tj2b 8 дней назад
i am sure you do not know the future from energy, but i think that you think what it is going to be and there is only one reason for this, you do not know what i do!
@happylittlemonk
@happylittlemonk 8 месяцев назад
I watch these debates are more than blockbuster movies. These are well under-rated.
@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory
@AmericanMuseumofNaturalHistory 8 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoy them!
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