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The FUTURE of PUSHBACK is ELECTRIC! Without a pushback truck! Explained by CAPTAIN JOE 

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Today I'll show you how to make your flight faster - by spending less time stuck on the ground, waiting to fly. It all adds up to one of the biggest innovations in the airline industry in decades.
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@nathanyao3525
@nathanyao3525 3 года назад
So those FSX pushbacks without a truck were really just happening in the future
@TheRealEnglishTeacher
@TheRealEnglishTeacher 3 года назад
Hahaha, underrated comment!
@rojaunjames747
@rojaunjames747 3 года назад
i have to apologize to them oof
@henriklmao
@henriklmao 3 года назад
I can now uninstall gsx, pushback got realistic again.
@MalaysianAviator737-8
@MalaysianAviator737-8 3 года назад
I was just about to comment that..
@TheRealEnglishTeacher
@TheRealEnglishTeacher 3 года назад
@@henriklmao HAHAHA... YOU JUST MADE IT EVEN FUNNIER!
@murdelabop
@murdelabop 3 года назад
I came up with this idea 35 years ago. Everyone I talked to about it gave me the same response: "It would be too heavy, too expensive, a maintenance headache, take up too much room in the landing gear, and it would be unsafe because the pilots couldn't see where they would be going." It's nice to see someone finally making it work.
@Sweetstevenson
@Sweetstevenson Год назад
Oh I hope they do this I hate pushing the plane
@beyondinsanitybr
@beyondinsanitybr 5 месяцев назад
I also thought of an electric motor for all wheels to spin them right before touchdown, hence reducing tire whear and increasing it's lifespan
@Zych.Grzegorz
@Zych.Grzegorz 3 года назад
Wow, I've had no idea the Spitfire was so big.
@t_sixtyfivex_wing8787
@t_sixtyfivex_wing8787 3 года назад
Spitfire 1:48 right?
@BETTER.ART.
@BETTER.ART. 3 года назад
lol at the fools who dont get the joke
@fieryjustin
@fieryjustin 3 года назад
The toy spitfire in the background contrasting size to the 777
@polarjet1833
@polarjet1833 3 года назад
@@t_sixtyfivex_wing8787 no he’s talking about the big dark colored pane on the wall behind Joe, the one at the top of the three model planes, that’s thenspitfire, it’s a WW2 British fighter plane
@shaneraymond3729
@shaneraymond3729 3 года назад
Lmao
@vwegert
@vwegert 3 года назад
5:55 Well, technically, pogo sticks could classify as air travel - just very short-haul...
@doolittlegeorge
@doolittlegeorge 3 года назад
"it ain't the fall but the sudden stop" no doubt.
@spewmuffin
@spewmuffin 3 года назад
When I worked in avionics a decade ago, I remember the hot buzz around this concept in systems development and research and how exciting many engineers were in wanting to participate in this program. I am glad to see that this is coming to fruition!
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 года назад
Well, a baggage tug has enough power to push an aircraft back, the mass of the aircraft being ridiculously higher, stopping is the challenge. The biggest obstruction has been getting powerful and small electric motors, although a hydraulic motor could have fit the bill, hot brakes and hydraulics, yeah, not a good idea. My only concern is what protection is there to guard against a seized clutch?
@JerryBiehler
@JerryBiehler 3 года назад
@@spvillano No clutch, the wheels are the motors. Direct drive permanent magnet motors.
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 года назад
@@JerryBiehler which can offer their own potential failure modes that can cause problems. Sounds like a challenging project, of the more fun kind! As an example, were implementation to be done on a pushback, rotational velocities wouldn't really matter, due to the legendary lack of speed of said behemoth vehicle. In an aircraft wheel, while pushback speed is still slow, one would be asking the rotor magnet to be able to withstand both impact and 200 knot speeds on a rapid spinup in an emergency landing. That's one hell of an ask for a ceramic, hence why I mentioned a clutch to pull the rotor out of the wheel system when taking off and landing. Brake heat would also be an issue to resolve. That sounds like a fun project to be on!
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 2 года назад
I am wondering if electric cars are what helped this along, A decade ago EVs were far less common. But now there is a lot of engineering R&D knowledge in the wild for compact light weight and very powerful electric motors.
@josephjohn666
@josephjohn666 3 года назад
i think you were lucky in moving to cargo operations before covid arrived.
@saims.2402
@saims.2402 3 года назад
Yeah ikr.
@BlackAttraction
@BlackAttraction 3 года назад
Definitely! This dude spreads so much knowledge and motivation! Maybe there is something like Karma?
@DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey3
@DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey3 3 года назад
Before government response to Covid Arrived.
@TheNixie1972
@TheNixie1972 3 года назад
It turned out well, but he did have a rough and uncertain time when AirBerlin went bust.
@donaldstanfield8862
@donaldstanfield8862 3 года назад
He sure is!
@n-plane
@n-plane 3 года назад
Hi captain Joe. I'm 12 and I'm an aviation inthusiast. I've been learning about planes on RU-vid since I was 6. I've been flying alot on xplane 11(my flight sim) and I've learnt alot in the past six years from you and youtube. I'm a big fan and thanks so much for all the hard effort you put into your videos.
@Rose.nancy_
@Rose.nancy_ 3 года назад
Same here At first I didn't know anything I saw how to defrence an Airbus and Boeing I watched it and baam I knew I wanted more I subscribed and watched a ton of videos
@Rose.nancy_
@Rose.nancy_ 3 года назад
I have alot of simulators about plane even I have apps to tell me about such as avionics history of planes and mor
@ulysseslee9541
@ulysseslee9541 3 года назад
@@Rose.nancy_ borrow books about the civil aircraft from public Library & u will get the answer
@Rose.nancy_
@Rose.nancy_ 3 года назад
Thanks and don't worry old age comes with knowledge
@Rose.nancy_
@Rose.nancy_ 3 года назад
I'll ask my mom to buy me some cause am a child I can't travel much covid-19
@abnormaalz
@abnormaalz 3 года назад
I can see another advantage in this system. You noted that most damage is done to engines by pilots having to spool up for "breakaway thrust". If instead the airplane is "broken away" with just the electric wheel drive, no breakaway thrust is required.
@kenneth.pascual
@kenneth.pascual 3 года назад
As an aircraft maintainer, this will provide me with work for many hours to come
@yoyoyoyoshua
@yoyoyoyoshua 3 года назад
More like provide you with another headache lol.
@j.mc.8773
@j.mc.8773 3 года назад
As a groundworker ,this will provide me losing my job ...
@yoyoyoyoshua
@yoyoyoyoshua 3 года назад
@@j.mc.8773 if it makes you feel better it will take a long time to replace you in loading the bags and all other things you do.
@emmetts1899
@emmetts1899 3 года назад
I completely agree as an aircraft mechanic myself. Winglets and elevators being ripped off is a lot of OT for us.
@CHOXON2CHOXOFF
@CHOXON2CHOXOFF 3 года назад
@@emmetts1899 true
@will53e
@will53e 3 года назад
As a USA based regional jet airline pilot, I can say unequivocally that this system would absolutely increase overall efficiency. Personally I love the concept and wish I had it on the jet tomorrow. That being said here in the US at least, it will be a long time before this system is widely adopted. The FAA moves so slowly, and then there are real concerns about the thousands of ground handler and ground equipment maintenance jobs that would be lost upon the widespread use of this system. Also I can't wait to see what the FAA and airlines come up with for training requirements not to mention certification....anyhow I love it, and I hope to push myself back, taxi out of the ramp, and park myself someday using a system like this. I wish the inventors much success! Thanks Joe for sharing.
@haynlaskan9668
@haynlaskan9668 2 года назад
Im literally about to start at an airport gig as a Tech and i stumble upon this clip/Comment...No pressure Right! Lol.. However, i don't believe it would wipe out TOO much jobs. Us Me-CanFix still have the Belt loaders, De-icer trucks, and regular cars and trucks used to transport personnel to 🔧 wrench on so we'll make do
@zhaofengyang6472
@zhaofengyang6472 Год назад
Did you realize that pushback driving is just one of the hundreds of jobs done by groung handlers? Mins saved by pushback won't buy you too much time, other jobs still need to be done including unload/load before you can finally "fly". Pilot is just about fly, but the aircraft and the whole system is not!
@mildlemon7866
@mildlemon7866 3 года назад
I had this idea more than 25 years ago, and I'm 100% sure I wasn't the first one to think of this. But developing such idea into a viable and certified product is a great accomplishment!
@paulroling1781
@paulroling1781 3 года назад
It isn't actually certified yet. And viability is another issue, especially if the in flight weight penalty outweighs the benefits.
@firstnamesecondname5341
@firstnamesecondname5341 3 года назад
We did it as a project at university too and we weren’t the only ones…. Patents screwed us up though 🙄 and also we weren’t the ‘elite’ engineering students of the department so weren’t taken seriously or given a chance at all…. Protean based in Farnham Surrey had a prototype version for use in a car over a decade ago but I guess they’re not the sort of company to spot opportunities (they got caught up in the in hub wheel for electric cars and wouldn’t have even thought about planes, or commercial moving equipment 🤷🏻‍♂️)
@donaldstanfield8862
@donaldstanfield8862 3 года назад
Yes, it would not be easy to sort out all the energy and weight-saving components for retrofitting thousands of aircraft.
@ReluctantLuddite
@ReluctantLuddite 3 года назад
@@paulroling1781 I’m in California, our crazy leaders here don’t care about things like costs vs benefit ratios. If is saves fuel and reduces emissions, you can be sure they will mandate its use, regardless if it make economic sense. They’ve mandated zero emission Semi truck use, even though we don’t have them available yet, and when they do become available, they won’t be very affordable...
@Rose.nancy_
@Rose.nancy_ 3 года назад
That's the spirit
@farazalam3325
@farazalam3325 3 года назад
Co-incidentally I had this in my dream yesterday. Dreams are mostly irrational... So it was an A340 using this and I got a chance to talk to the pilots and started asking questions like is it electric, so it runs on APU... I woke up before their answer.
@sierraromeomike
@sierraromeomike 3 года назад
And i was thinking about the feasibility of such a system just this afternoon!
@Flyby-1000
@Flyby-1000 3 года назад
They've been working on this project since 2012 if I'm not mistaken, glad to hear they've continued it. There wasn't much information getting out about wheel tug in the last 6 years...
@aaronbianco2392
@aaronbianco2392 3 года назад
I found they were from 2005!!
@AaronShenghao
@AaronShenghao 3 года назад
To put it simply, regulations are a b**ch. It takes years to make FAA and similar regulatory bodies to approve small things like this...
@christianbarnay2499
@christianbarnay2499 3 года назад
@@AaronShenghao Safety requires time and proper thinking. You can't just put a motor in there and voila. You need to make sure there is enough rear vision capability added so the pilot can operate it safely. You need to study all cases of failure you can think of and the proper response. You need to take that new option into account in radio communications, pilots training, airport procedures. You need to check which weather conditions allow or forbid the use of that system. I as a passenger want them to do their job the right way and not repeat the deadly fiasco of the 737 Max.
@kennethsrensen7706
@kennethsrensen7706 3 года назад
​@@AaronShenghao No . It is due to a lot of people are gonna loose their jobs . Same reason why they pushing so hard to get this system . They simply want to fire all those who drive the trucks and now they are close to sucess.
@michealeckert499
@michealeckert499 3 года назад
@@aaronbianco2392 hi
@johnathanasiou9284
@johnathanasiou9284 3 года назад
My biggest 2 worries with this system was a) Reversing camera views which the ground crew usually manage & b) The system accidentally engaging on the takeoff & landing rolls. It seems they have thought of both. BRAVO!. Last time I saw such an innovation was when they moved away from the INS navigation systems on early 747s. I believe they are on a winner here. Well done!
@bamisona
@bamisona Год назад
Great Idea. I can see this evolving into: 1. Having enough power to do all the taxiing between the gate and take-off point for departure as well as arrival. This will save lot of fuel, as well as increase the life of the engines. 2. Having a computer at the ground-control take over all the taxiing from the pilot, making the ground operations more efficient and error free, also eliminating the need for the follow-me car.
@wewillrockyou1986
@wewillrockyou1986 3 года назад
Heh, I used to think about this kind of electrical taxi/pushback system when I was a kid, finally someone has been willing to implement it and try to get it on the market.
@donaldstanfield8862
@donaldstanfield8862 3 года назад
Nice, what else do you have up your sleeve!? 😊
@wewillrockyou1986
@wewillrockyou1986 3 года назад
@@donaldstanfield8862 Aircraft style business class lie flat seats for long distance overnight (high speed) trains (:
@unclejoe8310
@unclejoe8310 3 года назад
@@wewillrockyou1986 They already got these in China
@IKEMENOsakaman
@IKEMENOsakaman 3 года назад
My dad's a pilot, but Captain Joe teaches me more than my dad! 😂
@saims.2402
@saims.2402 3 года назад
Lol
@adriansrealm
@adriansrealm 3 года назад
Use what Captain Joe says to impress your dad.
@ekurve
@ekurve 3 года назад
@@adriansrealm big brain
@Docstantinople
@Docstantinople 3 года назад
Your father failed you.
@gurukn
@gurukn 3 года назад
@BHAVIN PANJWANI ICSE are you even allowed to watch captain joe with your school account, bud? lol
@syedazzam7740
@syedazzam7740 3 года назад
2 minutes of silence for those who haven't discovered Captain Joe's youtube Channel. I really do feel for them. 😔😔
@kmmediafactory
@kmmediafactory 3 года назад
Amen
@flywithcaptainjoe
@flywithcaptainjoe 3 года назад
Hilarious 😂
@NikodAnimations
@NikodAnimations 3 года назад
Lol. Just let them discover captain joe
@Rose.nancy_
@Rose.nancy_ 3 года назад
Yap like years ago were was I in the internet I'll tell you were lost
3 года назад
You can always share it, so more people are aware ;)
@rexwave4624
@rexwave4624 3 года назад
When I was a kid, I was a tug operator for a big airline at a big airport. I pushed back everything up to 747’s. It was always a challenge to drive a straight line as the pilot started the engines sequentially while I pushed. I think the lead hand and possibly wing walkers would still be necessary because of the movement of other aircraft on the ramp, especially at night.
@smakermanster
@smakermanster 3 года назад
Great video! This system seems like such a no-brainer addition to any plane's systems it's a little surprising that something like this didn't come out sooner!
@mrslkungpowchikn1206
@mrslkungpowchikn1206 2 года назад
And help prevent the terrible fumes passengers are being gassed with!!
@OhRums
@OhRums 3 года назад
As a ramp agent pushing out planes is literally the best job ever and the funnest thing to do!
@YANK951
@YANK951 3 года назад
I’m a cargo aircraft K-loader operator and I have to say it’s the best job ever tbh I wanna get that pushback certification as well tho 💯💯
@PsychoKat90
@PsychoKat90 3 года назад
It does sound fun tbh :)
@Docstantinople
@Docstantinople 3 года назад
Your days are numbered.
@therealdjdijon3340
@therealdjdijon3340 3 года назад
Agreed
@krozareq
@krozareq 3 года назад
@@Docstantinople Yep. As for most of us unfortunately. The only ones who really benefit in the end will be executives and wealthy investors.
@sqwk2559
@sqwk2559 3 года назад
I can see airlines having a problem with the extra wear-and-tear on the main tires, but I suppose they’ll be happy with less stress on the engines. A good trade off.
@aaronbianco2392
@aaronbianco2392 3 года назад
What about the stress on the nose gear from the pushback tractor. Every time it moves an aircraft there is a shock, since the tractor moves, and THEN the aircraft moves. No more collapsed nosegear because a pilot forgot to release the brakes LOL
@frankpeck1448
@frankpeck1448 2 года назад
There goes 'Job Security' for tug operators. I recall about two decades ago, Lufthansa developed a vehicle designed to tow the airliner to the takeoff point, as a means of saving fuel. Never seen or heard of it since.
@cyyzaviation7469
@cyyzaviation7469 3 года назад
Very cool, but the best part of working the ramp is pushing!
@Jodah175
@Jodah175 3 года назад
Im honestly surprised this hasnt been built sooner. Though Id think youll still need spotters, or a very good camera system.
@SetMyLife
@SetMyLife 3 года назад
Exactly my thoughts
@Andrew-zv4fm
@Andrew-zv4fm 3 года назад
I agree.
@1967mustangman
@1967mustangman 3 года назад
As mentioned it comes with a 4 camera system.
@Jodah175
@Jodah175 3 года назад
@@1967mustangman and this is why I shouldn't be playing a game whilst listening to a video. Haha, thanks for that.
@ian3580
@ian3580 3 года назад
@@1967mustangman Does NOT come with the 4 camera system....it's optional......meaning you can get WheelTug without it and it costs more to get it.
@notbadgamers9497
@notbadgamers9497 3 года назад
**late at night** captain joe: *uploads a video* me: there are more important things to do than sleep, like watching captain joe
@Rose.nancy_
@Rose.nancy_ 3 года назад
Yap
@AlexForencich
@AlexForencich 3 года назад
You mentioned breakaway thrust; can these be used in a sort of "hybrid" mode where the electric motors can provide the force to get the plane moving initially, then the engines can be used to increase the taxi speed beyond what the electric motors alone can do, thereby reducing wear on the engines?
@donanders2110
@donanders2110 3 года назад
I was wondering the same thing
@ZachareSylvestre
@ZachareSylvestre 3 года назад
I believe he covered this in the video, where he said that the 'breakway thrust' that is normally needed to get the plane moving from stopped is the place that normally engines are worn the most, because the plane ingests debris from the airport and causes damage to the propeller blades. This hybrid mode would allow the plane to begin moving, then use engines to keep up power without getting high power then back down to taxi power to get moving.
@Angry.General1461
@Angry.General1461 2 года назад
@@ZachareSylvestre I'm sure the electric motor in the nose gear is not strong enough to handle bigger planes like the 747 or the A380. It might take several built into the main landing gear!
@chagi4334
@chagi4334 3 года назад
I remember a few years ago when he was still flying for a Airberlin. I recognized his voice while being a passenger on his plane. I never was so hyped to be flying on a plane haha. I think it was a flight to Venice
@ajrafkabir
@ajrafkabir 3 года назад
Stop lying 🤥
@chagi4334
@chagi4334 3 года назад
@@ajrafkabir what are you talking about. It was a flight from str to vce back when air berlin still existed
@Zenheizer
@Zenheizer 3 года назад
I always wondered if that would be possible, as a child. Glad to see its coming!
@piyushkanthak1087
@piyushkanthak1087 3 года назад
Joe is back!!! Man I missed you soo much...Take care of your self😊 Love your vides your voice and what not, thanks for keeping my love for aviation alive
@agentmuldermd
@agentmuldermd 3 года назад
Enjoy the videos but this, while interesting, seems more of a sponsored ad. What are the downsides, what are the lease costs/yr, are there any competitors, any concern for loss of tug-vehicle jobs?
@schmal911
@schmal911 3 года назад
yeah there's definitely a side to this story that we're missing. Some tug drivers will definitely be out of a job, but that's also a cost we've seen a million times before. The visibility issue is also curious. The only comment was that there's an *optional* camera system upgrade to look behind the plane... something you can bet low cost carriers won't be buying for their pilots. So then what? A team of marshallers? A quick prayer that it's clear? Nothing about this seems like an improvement of safety. All I see is just another way for airlines to shave down costs being disguised as a "time saver" for passengers.
@olivertomlinson6108
@olivertomlinson6108 3 года назад
The most interesting thing was when the plane was positioned sideways and then they connected two jetways 🤯
@JaxVideos
@JaxVideos 3 года назад
Yes. All of us from row 20 on back will experience such relief the first time that back door opens onto a nice empty jetbridge! I was able to ride inside the demo plane shown here during the Twist maneuver, and was thrilled when WT's CEO proudly released the door latch and ushered us up into the terminal gate. I felt a wave of relieved passengers from future flights breaking out of hunched postures and exiting happy and refreshed.
@SDK-im8sl
@SDK-im8sl 3 года назад
Parallel parking with fore/aft jet bridges was commonplace for larger jets in the 1960s, for certain airlines like United and TWA. The planes would power into and out of the gates. As mentioned in this video, there were significant jet blast hazards. As not mentioned, it was hell on tires and brakes, and if the final alignment wasn't perfect, the aft bridge couldn't make the hookup. With the "WheelTug" shown here, those problems would be lessened. BUT, parallel parking and fore/aft bridges cause each gate to take up more space on the concourse, which means less gates for a given length of concourse, a very big economic/productivity concern. // I think the Wheel Tug general concept will someday take hold, but it's going to need many years of development. Using the nose gear for locomotion is the least costly approach, but it's not functionally ideal... Only a small proportion of an airplane's weight is on the nose gear, so traction will be a big problem in many conditions, for both accelerating and braking. Then there's the need for redundancy and safety... you can't use main gear brakes to stop a jetliner's rearward motion, because there's a large risk of the airplane "tail standing".
@JaxVideos
@JaxVideos 3 года назад
@@SDK-im8sl Capt. Joe mentioned that WheelTug limits speed in reverse. 5mph would be OK even if the main gear came to a full stop against, say, a misplaced piece of ground equipment... The gate navigation aids coming along will park these planes perfectly and repeatably. I foresee this happening rather quickly once the first few installations are analyzed economically. Time savings recoup seats, concourse length, and even a little weight.
@alanmorton1370
@alanmorton1370 3 года назад
Brilliant! World record distance for pogo stick 26.2 miles (42.16km) but not much room for luggage. Know which way I'd sooner travel!
@zootnetwork
@zootnetwork 3 года назад
Joe crew here. Want more people to view his channel.
@aviationcatF22
@aviationcatF22 3 года назад
Best channel ever keep up the good work love the vids I want to go to flight school then want to work for cargolux!
@ccm2059
@ccm2059 3 года назад
Same but unfortunately I'm too young I don't think an airline would trust a 12year old with there cargo so I have to wait
@aviationcatF22
@aviationcatF22 3 года назад
Bro I am 12 too can’t wait to get old enough to start flight school
@donaldstanfield8862
@donaldstanfield8862 3 года назад
@@ccm2059 Awesome, good luck out there! 👊🏼
@donaldstanfield8862
@donaldstanfield8862 3 года назад
@@aviationcatF22 That's great, all the best to you and blue skies! 🎯
@ccm2059
@ccm2059 3 года назад
@@donaldstanfield8862 thanks
@FerroequinologistofColorado
@FerroequinologistofColorado 3 года назад
This is a BRILLIANT IDEA!
@carmengrace2413
@carmengrace2413 3 года назад
I always wondered about how much fuel burn it takes to taxi in Tampa. It’s almost like their going to just drive to the destinations. Not to mention having to wait for a gate with engines still burning.
@jameswoods7276
@jameswoods7276 3 года назад
That's pretty damn cool. Will be great for operators in and out of smaller airports (like here at YHZ) or airports they don't regularly go to where they may not have pushback trucks of their own. Its a game changer for sure.
@Deamon93IT
@Deamon93IT 3 года назад
Not surprised this relatively tiny innovation is getting attention: the amount of cost and time savings alone are worth it, especially considering it takes only minor modifications to install
@qwerty112311
@qwerty112311 3 года назад
Except not… max speed it can taxi at is around 10 knots, when 20 is common and 30 happens here and there on engines. The weight of the system alone makes it only economically feasible on very short routes, and that’s with cheap fuel. Forget for a moment the added complexity of the system and the snail speed taxi…
@Deamon93IT
@Deamon93IT 3 года назад
@@qwerty112311 most of the flights are on thr short end, where any gain in turn around time is precious. Add to that the fact that the carriers doing such flights tend to be low cost. After all they started with the B737 and A320, not exactly known for long hauls
@akkids6887
@akkids6887 3 года назад
@@qwerty112311 Yeah, I'm curious about the process and the tradeoffs. Seems like fuel savings won't be the core value; more likely the benefits will be smoother and faster ground operations? I wonder: * how much of the overall time on the ground is spent at 20 knots taxiing? * once turned around and entering the taxiway, can the aircraft then start up the engines while rolling, and turn off the wheeltug when the engines are ready to push? (I don't know whether this would work, just curious). It seems like wheeltug will give more simplicity, flexibility and smoothness when on the ground, and that should bring savings in time, equipment and personnel, but I guess there are more tradeoffs I'm not considering. Insight appreciated!
@balazslengyel6950
@balazslengyel6950 3 года назад
While this was a very interesting video, I liked it, it also sounded a bit like an advertisement. Are there competing companies?
@danielrose1392
@danielrose1392 3 года назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EGTS
@erandajanaka3790
@erandajanaka3790 3 года назад
Fix motors to other wheel sets too. You can use them as Dynamic breaks to reduce break pads wear out.
@bongarijit
@bongarijit 3 года назад
Lean operations -- excellent presentation @Captain Joe
@brad4057
@brad4057 3 года назад
Welcome back joe
@idiotsevant71
@idiotsevant71 3 года назад
Why in the world didn't this happen 20+ years ago? I mentioned this kinda idea when I worked air cargo to a Kalitta engineer, and it was just laughed at.
@AdventuresonTour
@AdventuresonTour 3 года назад
I was kind of thinking the same thing... Seems so logical, and down right simple really..
@user-ez5vq9fd2t
@user-ez5vq9fd2t 3 года назад
Regulation. The reason mainstream aviation tech is behind a decade is because it takes a lot of time and money to introduce new equipment, procedures, and regulations. If it's not 100% necessary or have enough bang for buck, airlines and aviation authorities will not look into it.
@JaxVideos
@JaxVideos 3 года назад
WheelTug's patents on this are circa 17 years ago, and on the motor itself 21 years ago. That's the time it takes to do this without gov't funding or major airframer support. Oh, and if you think those would have helped, consider why there is no competitor left on the field.
@idiotsevant71
@idiotsevant71 3 года назад
@@user-ez5vq9fd2t I would have thought that when planes started to get bigger it would have been done at that time. Especially during war time as an effort to get them around quicker on the ground. Just kinda makes sense to me that way, there were so many aviation breakthroughs of things in the 40's thought someone would have come up with that then.
@aaronbianco2392
@aaronbianco2392 3 года назад
Safran/Honeywell got together and tried, but they put the motors on the main landing gear NEXT TO THE BRAKES. I bet the two heat sources loved one another. I also realized that if you are going in reverse with an electric motor in the main gear and hit the brakes, then you will get a tail strike, but if you have the motor in the nose gear act as the brake, then it simply lifts upwards, loses traction, and you avoid the tail strike since the plane never stops moving backwards as the braking force causing a potential tail strike is removed. Why didn't Safran use this solution?
@AlbertPool1995
@AlbertPool1995 3 года назад
Naples, Italy, 12th May 2019: The pushback truck broke down in front of my Lufthansa flight to Munich and had to be towed away by another pushback truck.
@shuttleman27c
@shuttleman27c Год назад
As a ramp agent, I see 1 more problem with it. How people driving on the ramp know when a plane is about to move is by looking and seeing the beacon lights on, a pushback connected, a wingwalker at either wing, and the jet bright or stairs are pulled. If either of those are not present, then it will take a minute, long enough for you to drive safely past. Without most of those signals, I can see people driving behind a plane while its moving backwards will become too common. Also, what if the APU is out? You will still need to have crew who can operate the pushback but they will be out of practice by not doing it all the time
@PtrkHrnk
@PtrkHrnk 3 года назад
This is such obvious thing to do, it could be done since forever... It's actually surprising isn't requirement yet.
@technophant
@technophant 3 года назад
In stop and go traffic you could roll forward without revving up the engines. Nice
@MarcDufresneosorusrex
@MarcDufresneosorusrex 3 года назад
right?
@SB_AE
@SB_AE 3 года назад
I always fell so inspired when i watch him i so want to become a pilot in the futrue!
@tvanharp
@tvanharp 3 года назад
Do it! We need pilots. A lot of pilots took early retirement because of Covid and a lot of them probably aren't coming back. There was a shortage before Covid and now that everybody is ramping back up it's going to be even worse.
@tvanharp
@tvanharp 3 года назад
Just take a look at American Airlines right now. And United's Scott Kirby has talked about the looming pilot shortage due to less military pilots.
@Dogsnark
@Dogsnark 5 месяцев назад
I’ve heard of this innovation before, and always wondered how and when it would be implemented, or IF it would be. Thank you for this explanation of the system. I’m glad to know that it’s likely to come into more common use soon.
@sventheman
@sventheman 3 года назад
During my years working for a big European aircraft manufacturer all my handed in suggestions for improvement have been declined argumenting "too heavy". As I'm working now in the fields of electro mobility I know about the weight of e-motors and can't really believe that this extra weight will be accepted in a larger scale no matter how great this idea is. Hope I'm wrong because I really like those usefull gadgets
@Bluenoser613
@Bluenoser613 3 года назад
Oh, that must be way safer. Those push bars seem to be a hazard.
@pd4165
@pd4165 3 года назад
And you have to have the right one on the airport - diversions can be a nightmare (and probably why they were doing that pushback 'by hand'). Nose lifting pushbacks are much better all round.
@XeonAlpha
@XeonAlpha 3 года назад
Is there any potential time savings with this from being able to begin your taxi roll while still doing the engine startup procedures?
@jamesf791
@jamesf791 3 года назад
As a pushback driver I think this may happen sooner rather then later. But I don't think that airlines will install a second jet bridge, that would mean more space and airports are running usually a little thin at the moment on space to add a second jet bridge per hate. Occasionally there has to be a pushback driver for when the APU is INOP. I would think the wing walkers would have to still be in contact as to make sure no vehicle would approach or for other objects. Not to mention de-icing. But as we know the 2 biggest costs for airline companies are fuel and employees. And this would certainty help them save money
@pastorhaze9509
@pastorhaze9509 3 года назад
What a thing to see my first week as a ramper. so long flight benefits
@robthetennisman
@robthetennisman 3 года назад
I just wrote a report on electric taxiing for university literally last week haha
@LizardDoggo
@LizardDoggo 3 года назад
Haha
@akkids6887
@akkids6887 3 года назад
Interested in what you learned! Did you look at nosewheel motors, main wheel motors, autonomous/robotic tugs, all three, or an even broader scope?
@arjansinghsuri9336
@arjansinghsuri9336 3 года назад
His videos are so informative that you can pass your exams with flying colours and also give information or guide pilots by being a passanger lol 😂
@Rose.nancy_
@Rose.nancy_ 3 года назад
That's right one day I asked my mom about jet lag he didnt even know what it is I explained an I got congratulated
@Crystalus08
@Crystalus08 3 года назад
I was gonna hit the pillow, when Captain Joe comes to orient us with another interesting fact😂😂
@Renard380
@Renard380 3 года назад
Looks like you're hitting the "like" button instead ;)
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 3 года назад
This will be particularly good for the 737, A220, A320, and Embraer E-Jets planes, where pushback times and not having to run the engines will really save fuel. Mind you, APU's will have to be designed to run a lot more than in the past, though.
@essayasnigussie5790
@essayasnigussie5790 2 года назад
APUs are mostly on during engine start and after landing at the taxi way. Thus, it won't be much of an added problem I presume.
@mikepawlik3989
@mikepawlik3989 3 года назад
i read this is a polish patent as well as for main wheels to be speeded up during landing not to burn tires over and over again which generates huge additional costs every year for airlines and airport maintenence
@s1dd637
@s1dd637 3 года назад
I was thinking about this topic and here I see a video about it!! Crazy coincidence xD
@Tang0Fox1
@Tang0Fox1 3 года назад
Coincidence or you're being spied on. Lol
@Ismalith
@Ismalith 3 года назад
Well you definitely can roll till the waiting position in front of the runway and only start the Engines there. Also they could go further and add hub motors to all wheels, they could increase braking performance and stabilize the aircraft on touchdown with spinning the wheels up and counter slipping effects on wet runways. Also you could use them to speed the aircraft up especially on the first few knots when the engines still work poorly.
@kittyislandadventure
@kittyislandadventure 2 года назад
Spinning the wheels before landing would be a terrible idea. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AJRf1jDiaXw.html
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 года назад
Ah, powerback, I remember it well. Eastern Airlines had a labor agreement that pushback was only to be conducted by A&P mechanics, so in order to keep staffing costs down and ontime performance acceptable, powerback from the gate was the norm. Way back when, in the age of trijets, I was working for Piedmont at PHL. One of our cabin cleaners had just opened the starboard rear door for cabin service and an Eastern L-1011 powered back. Alas, the pilot in control kept the engine power fairly high, resulting in baggage carts flying around the ramp, commuter aircraft blown off their chocks, resulting in collisions with parked ground equipment and our 727 jumping its chocks - ejecting the cabin cleaning crew member that had just opened the rear door. She fell 17 feet, to land face first onto the ramp. Plastic surgeons did an excellent job reconstructing her facial bones an eye orbit. She sued Eastern and not long after, the already troubled airline ceased operations.
@irideaduck939
@irideaduck939 2 года назад
Quite the sales pitch here! Two issues that were not talked about are, one with only ~5% of the aircraft weight on the NLG will it be able to operate in wet and snowy conditions? Two, with the added mass, has the NLG been certified for the additional loads placed upon it and can the retraction system pull the NLG as certified by the OEM?
@MatthewSC93
@MatthewSC93 2 года назад
Truely revolutionary. Can’t remember the number of delay due to tug unavailable at busy airports. Then it leads to missing slot time and futher delay.
@kd5nrh
@kd5nrh 3 года назад
Needs a Volkswagen gearshift instead of those silly buttons. Bonus points for a high-quality audio system to provide the gear grinding sound effect throughout the plane.
@glengrayban3004
@glengrayban3004 3 года назад
Hopefully this saves labor and money!
@vitamin-3265
@vitamin-3265 3 года назад
Sheeesh
@munawarazad413
@munawarazad413 3 года назад
I had put a patent for ravinng all wheels to ground speed by small motors. That would eliminate tyres burning on you the down, making landing as simple as take off would also reduce landing distance, skidding on wet, snowy runway and duir cross wind. Little bigger motor would do this function also.. It sure is a usefull feature for all sizes of aircrafts making them indipendent..
@amparotorremocha7473
@amparotorremocha7473 Год назад
Everything that comes to reduce and improve waiting time, fuel and the sustainibily ( CO2 ,NOx ) , is welcome .
@UltraMagaFan
@UltraMagaFan 3 года назад
I'm sick and tired of hearing the "electric is the future" shit but this this is awesome.
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh 2 года назад
They can put permanent magnet motors on every wheel and resistor grids to help in braking and spinning the wheels before landing to near ground speed reducing wheel wear .
@leerb44
@leerb44 3 года назад
It’s also great for maintenance ops
@derraumdeuter2109
@derraumdeuter2109 3 года назад
I will miss the connection with the pushback truck drivers even as a passenger
@TheRealEnglishTeacher
@TheRealEnglishTeacher 3 года назад
The only problems I see with this, are the loss of jobs for those tug drivers.
@lhenn_
@lhenn_ 3 года назад
Jesus, get over it. Airports are so big and offer such a huge diversity. One can surely find other tasks for the personnel (controlling and guiding, for example). You could even think of a system combined with remote control by ground crew. With your reasoning, we all would still be painting walls in caves. ;)
@marcmalnick9929
@marcmalnick9929 3 года назад
Its inevitable. Innovation, progress and just like the horse and cart are gone, so will all the tight drivers and assistants
@TheRealEnglishTeacher
@TheRealEnglishTeacher 3 года назад
@@lhenn_ I never said I was against it. Love your assumption
@aaronbianco2392
@aaronbianco2392 3 года назад
But are their job gains elsewhere that offset? From what I know, tug drivers don't necessarily require that you have a high school education like a truck driver, and since the pay is low since the qualifications are low, I'm sure there is a lot of turnover. As a contrarian, I might expect that they will have to keep at least one person for the cases that a plane doesn't have the system, or that it inoperable on an aircraft. Most likely, some jobs at the airport will have their responsibilities exapanded for the cases where there is a severe wind snowstorm. So tug operations might become seasonal in northern climates while southern climates they simply disappear.
@weintdm1
@weintdm1 3 года назад
Research the job longetivity for the average tug driver.
@texkill
@texkill 2 года назад
Safran and Honneywell made a similar system in 2014(green taxi). Airbus and Boeing didnt choose the solution because it was to heavy around 400 Kg and they was not enough space in the landing gear. The system was made to only use the APU to pushback and taxi from the gate to the runway.
@EivindfxW
@EivindfxW 3 года назад
One concern though, the wear and tear of the main wheel gear. As shown in the video, it's only the front wheel that is moving while turning. It seems in some of the turns that the main gear is stationary. This, while being a hot sunny day, at full capacity could increase the wear and tear of the wheels. Could it lead to a wheel eruption?
@daryusshroff5534
@daryusshroff5534 3 года назад
Literally if someone sees all his videos a person can give an exam in his flying school
@FedoraSnatcher
@FedoraSnatcher 3 года назад
Not at all
@daryusshroff5534
@daryusshroff5534 3 года назад
@@FedoraSnatcher we all have differences in opinion 🙏🏻
@FedoraSnatcher
@FedoraSnatcher 3 года назад
@@daryusshroff5534 The exams in flying school go in much more depth then this, this is surface level things basically.
@daryusshroff5534
@daryusshroff5534 3 года назад
@@FedoraSnatcher ok understood,
@FedoraSnatcher
@FedoraSnatcher 3 года назад
@@daryusshroff5534 Yep
@milk-it
@milk-it 3 года назад
Top innovation. Well presented!
@DarkTAwolf
@DarkTAwolf 2 года назад
You would still need a push back tug as a backup not to mention it does not reduce the crew on the ground requirement for wing walkers.
@jhill4071
@jhill4071 3 года назад
Based on cost vs effective value powering the front wheel is doable. May need to do a little system engineering analysis to consider the effects of wind, rain and snow along with failure modes effects analysis (FMEA) and repairability and maintainability.. In Anchorage probably want a plan B truck nearby if the front wheel drive motor system can't deal with prevailing wind and ice.
@Norsilca
@Norsilca Год назад
I'm not a pilot so I don't understand the fuel savings part. Normally the pushback is done by a vehicle, not the engines, like he said. So I'd think it's replacing the vehicle, not engine power, but clearly I'm wrong about some part of that.
@Yitz42
@Yitz42 3 года назад
Remember learning about the system a few years ago, it uses a new kind of electric motor with higher torque. There were competition but they were focused on the rear wheels.
@pankajbhatt9910
@pankajbhatt9910 3 года назад
A TaxiBot system is already in-use at IGI Airport, New Delhi, India. It uses electric Semi-autonomous tractor for push back and taxi-out, reducing emission and fuel consumption. Good to know about this alternative as well.
@raymasraymas
@raymasraymas 2 года назад
A little trivia: Growing up in India in the 80s, there were no/few tug vehicles as we see today. Instead agricultural tractors were most common and are still seen at some smaller regional airports.
@Salim-pt4tj
@Salim-pt4tj 3 года назад
I hope one day to see in the cockpit a screen in the radio system to see the communication from the control tower in words along with voice this can help the pilot to repeat back exactly the instruction received. because sometime the controller speaks too fast and cant understand the instruction very clear specially .
@cryptofunded4719
@cryptofunded4719 3 года назад
Backing from the gate without wing walkers is dangerous. At least 1 of 20 pushbacks, a vehicle doesn’t stop for your plane like they’re supposed to. I can see many ground collisions from this. Costing even more money and delays.
@takimara154
@takimara154 3 года назад
The WheelTug system sound amazing, but i wonder what happens to it when it comes to worst situation (emergency landing where you have to rely on braking).
@tommartel7398
@tommartel7398 3 года назад
I don't believe brakes are part of the nose gear.
@svendolenielsen3569
@svendolenielsen3569 3 года назад
Seems so simple. And usually simple stuff are the most brilliant.
@stevehofmaster7489
@stevehofmaster7489 3 года назад
Yes I enjoyed this so much and oh yes I only wish we had these while I was working as a ground agent for 30 years,I can't tell you how many times we had to WAIT for a push back tug great idea hope it comes along soon!
@ghostrider-be9ek
@ghostrider-be9ek 3 года назад
Definite some benefits for smaller airports with limited resources, but this will also add at LEAST 300lbs right on the nose, which is way forward for CoG - and will definitely affect fuel consumption and trim. Also, in the winter, unless you have winter tires - this feature is useless 5 months of the year in many places. Also, you will STILL need wing walkers and someone to speak real time, to the captain about the maneuvers. At any busy airport, the GC wont allow pilots to move around themselves, esp in the dark or bad Wx.
@seagullsbtn
@seagullsbtn 3 года назад
I could see this as a huge fuel saver. The amount of time spent on the ground taxing at large airports like LAX/LGA/JKF etc running the engines while sitting in traffic is huge.
@suddhojitgon5929
@suddhojitgon5929 3 года назад
This is really a much needed innovation. In fact, this system should have been in almost every plane by now.
@dzenishadzic664
@dzenishadzic664 3 года назад
Cockpits will need mirrors just like trucks so pilots can see where they are going when reversing..
@Arkalius80
@Arkalius80 3 года назад
If I'm honest I'm surprised this wasn't already a thing. I guess there must have been technical challenges that haven't been fully resolvable until now. But yes, I can definitely see the value of this... fewer bottlenecks for planes getting underway, less people involved, less ground equipment to use and maintain and worry about breaking. It seems like this could be used in conjunction with powered taxiing. The wheel tug system can get the plane moving, and then disengaged while switching to engine power for higher speed taxiing. I kind of wonder how tedious that might be... Is the wheel tug max forward speed enough for normal taxi operations all the way to the runway?
@johnh10000
@johnh10000 3 года назад
..and there was an incident, in the US with snow and ice. The aircraft shortly after "fell" into the Tertomach (?) river. I believe the NTSB report implied the reverse thrust on the ground had contributed to the acident
@Jonas-cq5ph
@Jonas-cq5ph 3 года назад
I wonder if any previous testing has been done on the brake temperatures when rejecting a takeoff with this system installed.
@drevil2675
@drevil2675 3 года назад
My favorite aviation channel.
@intantarmizi6138
@intantarmizi6138 3 года назад
So can u use it to stop your plane while landing ?
@SEmixYuTube
@SEmixYuTube 3 года назад
A patent for electric taxiing was applied for by Delos Aerospace in 2003, and published in 2006. Honeywell and SAFRAN announced their joint venture EGTS International at the Paris Air Show in 2011 Following the initial phase of ground testing and first move in April 2013, the system was first demonstrated at the Paris Air Show 2013
@MottyGlix
@MottyGlix 3 года назад
The Honeywell/SAFRAN EGTS project has been abandoned. Their technical approach created ever more problems until they threw in the towel. Wheeltug takes different approaches.
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