Rock/metal is the new pop. Everything in that genre is so mainstream now, the labels have completely commoditized it now. This all looks like a spoof it's so surreal.
Yeh, this kid exudes same vibes that Jacob Collier does, as in "i'm too talented, but can't make you feel the music" no matter how many modulations you used for chord changes and tonalities etc.
10:09 Yes. This is the only channel I've came across that I feel has potential to wake rock/metal dorks up. It wont be easy and I honestly feel that impactful rock/metal may never come back again but this is a start. No one else is doing it. Rick Beato slightly does it by breaking down great songs and subtly reminding people that these songs are multiple decades old and its time for people to make their own original impactful great songs but hes just too nice about it. He flat out needs to start yelling or swearing or something idk 🤣
@@CIRCLEOFTONE that's probably another important point. It would be easier than ever to be counter culture given how stupid society has become but rock music probably could not even fulfill that since we have our Joe Rogan's or anyone else who would just be a search button away on youtube, Instagram, tiktok etc.
@@bqvsgravity8956 yep nobody has escaped the copycat generation. On tiktok you have millions of people copying dance moves etc. I actually like tiktok because the algorithm is great. It feeds me what I want. Way better than the garbage facebook, Instagram try to push on me.
@@bqvsgravity8956 The thing about being counter culture in the 60s-80s vs now is that a lot of the things artists stood up for have changed since the late 80's in a direction they would like to see the world. There are still loads of unresolved issues from those earlier decades that run rampant now, but those types of ideas are more popular among younger people than ever before. If this trend remains constant as years pass, the only assholes left to be "counter culture" will be fucks wanting "trad life, trad wife" (not rock and roll) and are likely homophobic and racist. "Owning da libs" does not a counter culture make.
Few things: 1. Considering the amount of blowback that modern hip-hop has gotten from dedicated hip-hop fans, maybe using the evolution of hip-hop as an example of rock should emulate wasn't a good idea. 2. This guy (Jeris Johnson) behaves like a massive prick throughout the entirety of the interview. As a rock and metal fan, I don't want this guy as the face of the genre I like. No thank you. You can be countercultural and edgy without being a jerk with an inflated ego. The snippets played of his music also don't sound all that "next-gen"... so maybe he should tone that ego down a little bit. Further, considering how heavily Johnson has clearly had to lean on the legacy acts that he mocks (the majority of his most popular songs on Spotify lean on guest vocalists/artists: a collaboration with Papa Roach on "Last Resort", a duet with Chad Kroeger (from Nickelback), and a remix of one of the biggest Bring Me The Horizon songs), his attitude does come off as tasteless and he seems to lack some self-awareness. 3. I think this is probably the biggest takeaway. Rock is absolutely suffering a relative lack of awareness among the general public, though I do think that trend might start to get more favorable to heavy music soon. I still argue that this doesn't make it "dead", just very unpopular, but it cannot be argued that rock is lacking in popularity. I think the concept of it being "dead" among the fanbase, ultimately has to be decided by the fans and what they want. For me personally, I think that rock has never been in a better place for fans of the music, because there truly is something for everyone here and many bands are innovating within already established sub-genres. I'm also on the political left, so of course I like the lyrical approach of some of these newer bands and the general vibe of the rock scene today. That said, there's clearly a percentage of rock fans that aren't a fan of this. They aren't content with the tamer lyrical approach or the sonics behind it, and that's their right to feel that way. To them, the genre may well be dead, because they're not seeing what they like from it. I don't agree, but I can't blame them for feeling that way. I would feel the way they felt if the situation was reversed. 4. However, I can absolutely agree with Jeris on these rock festivals and constantly headlining legacy acts. I blame this on festival promoters not wanting to risk loss of cash by getting newer acts to headline, but regardless of reasoning, it is annoying to see Korn headline something for the six thousandth time.
I've got a soft spot for Ghost. It's ironic that a lot of tongue in cheek bands like Ghost, Dethklok, Steel Panther etc are way better than the serous ones. And they key to that is ANTHEMS. They all know how to get a catchy hook and chorus.
This dude looks like he is just doing a bit. Too much "ironic rock star" vibes going on to take it even a little bit seriously. Also, I never get the "rock and roll is not dangerous anymore" idea. I have loads of friends fucking one another, doing loads of drugs, dying from suicide and like rock and roll plenty. Am I in a minority here?
Not to be melodramatic, but this is one of the reasons I've deleted my socials, and I don't do TikTok, I can barely get on Reddit. Between this guy and MGK, I really have lost hope that this culture is capable of feeling anything anymore. Not just Gen Z, but anyone at any age who finds this music enjoyable might as well be plugged into the matrix, and fed a steady diet of soilent green. RIP true individualistic rebel culture.
Yeah that's why I can't keep my mouth shut. For a decade I checked myself because I didn't want to be that hipster that gave Led Zeppelin albums 1 out of 5 etc. But it got so obviously, quantifiably bad that I don't feel like I'm just being a typical "keeping it true" style neckbeard.
This channel is needed in this day and age. I totally agree with the problem not being technical talent. It’s something from nothing creativity that’s missing. Unique creative individualism. Anyone can practice till they are technically good. Most can’t think for themselves though. Most can’t write unique inspired material. That’s what’s missing. Technical quality be danmed if it’s at the expensive of the spirit and soul. People want real. Real isn’t perfect. It’s better than perfect, because it’s f3cking real. This rock savior guy, he's obviously talented but comes off as a poser cashing in on the social/political unrest in resent USA. I do agree with a lot of what he says. Rock has always been the spirit of rebellion/war. Rules are usually the antithesis of that. I’m guessing he’s just repeating something he read on line/heard in collage though. When he insinuates you don’t need live drums, he comes off as being totally naive of the spirit of rock. It’s not just a 20th century thing. This spirit is ancient and conjured with a drum. A real drum. The real drum is not a rule, it’s an indispensable part of what IS the spirit of rock. You can’t conjure that in the same way with a keyboard and DAW snapped to the grid. You can see it on the face of every good drummer performing live. Something flows into him or her and then radiates to the rest of the band. Remove live drums and that disappears. The genre disappears, really. Why don’t yall just roll over and drop, drinking fake food product out of a gray straw, while watching your white phone, to the black nothingness that is most modern music/social entertainment. No color. No real. No life. Sh11111111t. “I’m sorry for being so bad. I’m bad. I’m so bad. I’m so bad and I feeeeeeeel bad” umm, yeah, yeah you might feel bad because that was a bit cringe >.
Well said, and it's only just dawned on me this week the pivotal importance of a great drummer to drive and inspire a great song. Look at what happened when Lombardo left Slayer. It was watered down Slayer. When Lars got lazy, it was embarrassing. The cut, copy, paste approach on a grid kills the raw passion of the spirit
I disagree. With millions of bands putting out music we should be drowning in good music. If an AMAZING song comes out it spreads online. You can't keep a good band down.
There's pre-planned, homogenized, boardroom-controlled, industry-produced, 'car salesman' hawked and lawyer-protected 'Rock Music - (pick from our curated list) Genre' vs. 3-4 dudes cranked 'n angry in a basement lettin' fly with riffs and lyrics that, were they to get out into the public, would completely blank out everything 'the industry' has attempted to achieve over the last 30 years. Last time that happened Nirvana came outta nowhere. But then 'the industry' just mucked it up again by picking up every heroin junkie with a distorted, out of tune guitar on 10 and a moaning bitch about 'the man' or injustice and labeled it 'Grunge'. Oh, and a flannel shirt tied around their waste. Don't forget that. Now with the intertubes we have an overabundance of music of every genre. Give or take some acts that organically 'made it' using said tubes, we still have 'the industry' in the way deciding who lives and who dies. And if you don't make the added grades of the current year like diversity, inclusivity, blah, blah, blah, you don't stand a chance in meeting their scale. Rock, real Rock, was always a masculine endeavor. In current year we are inundated with soy and feminine ideals. What needs to happen (IMO) is we need to come out dicks swinging with music to match and start slappin' up the public like the Chads of old. Let them cry about it! (free press). Let them form counsels to try to stop it ala PMRC (free press). 'The industry' at this point will do one of two things: Try like hell to sign such acts (which should refuse and start their own labels) or tow the party line while trying to compete with their own versions which will be inferior and fail. But as we've seen with everything else of late, virgin industry 'rocker' vs. The Chad Rocker needs to be a real meme. We can actually follow the downfall of modern society as it lines up with the watering down of Rock music. We can reverse it as well.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE in an era so easy to offend (rock/metal's reason for being) im totally not surprised the "industry" has closed the door. which is the true underlying issue....rock has been deemed heretical again this time by the carebears. if we want anything, we're gonna need to make it ourselves. like always...
@@kazzTrismus I betcha I could totally get them to close that door with my opinions. Not that I wouldn't mind being "the most hated person in rock" at least from the mainstream point of view. hah. Trouble is, I'd be banned, everywhere.
True words. I still listen to metal from the 1980s and 1990s, with the exception of a few old bands that still produce albums, otherwise I don't bother. I have gone into electronic and industrial much more where there is some individuality left between different artists. The best remedy is to switch off and listen to the ideas that arise in your head and speak through your instrument, not to mention get together with other people and just jam. It's a lost art, hence no more rock hits being in existence. I hope something changes...
He has some good points, when it comes to rock, and about changing things mind, ...I've always looked at rock music, as a way to vent my frustrations of the world, go with the flow, and have good times with my friends. Most I've earned is about a tenner haha. I've just got by on being a student, and only now managing to find part time work, music wise, not that interested in big bands anymore, new ones anyway, but have had a great time watching underground bands and made some great friends in the process...have had a small following and that's enough for me at 27 years old over the past 10 years, more to come.............
Two Videos a day. We need TWO FUCKING VIDEOS A DAY. One where it’s just based talk. Then another where it’s just you doing cool music shit…you don’t even need to talk, just give us those sweet sweet tones.
So his idea to make rock great again is just to be Spinal Tap with 90's dudebro aesthetic - very new, very original indeed. And if anything modern hip hop/rap is just as bad as modern metal, because it's all image but otherwise wholly cosmopolitan.
I think there’s still interesting and compelling music being made in underground/alt-hiphop, certainly more so than most of the underground rock/metal scenes. But yeah most mainstream hiphop is garbage, just a spectacle with nothing authentic to back it up. At least back in the day rappers actually RAPPED over their beats at concerts, nowadays most of the top rappers just play the entire song (vocals and all) at concerts, screaming barely intelligible ad-libs into the mic with no actual rapping.
Ah he slagged of Schecters, which are a decent brand, not just for twelve year olds! I'm so fed up with this auto tune bs and "soulful" rnb style melodies, each to their own but they don't jive with me because they're the opposite of balls to the wall attitude, the contours are too softened and rounded. Gojira is putting out new music which kicks ass but yeah, I'd like to see the younger generation make less corporate music. I'd say the last "new" band that caught my ear, but just for one song, was King 810, Fat Around the Heart because there was a real element of danger in it.
Honestly man this video is so true lol, I agreed with dude and I think he is cool but then he started playing music and it's like what he said about bands trying to sound the same went straight out the window. But the way I see it people are slowly evolving from shit like Metallica and Black Sabbath and going onto bands like Linkin Park and Papa Roach and adding some modern hip hop elements to it, essentially they are influenced by actual Dad Rock as opposed to the grandad rock of Black Sabbath.
Your last bit is interesting; bands from the 70’s and 80’s are routinely disparaged as “dad rock”, and yet the culture and image of the 90’s and early 2000’s is still to some extent considered hip and acceptable, despite the time gap between then and now being even greater than the gap between the 60’s and 80’s. It seems that the internet era has created a culture that is somewhat frozen in time.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Yeah but he's a Bruno Mars kind of talented. Very ADD, knows just enough on various instruments, and understands how to construct a hit/pop song that will appeal to the masses. There is musical talent there but it is completely undisciplined and the artist is quite narcissistic.
I mean Steve Vai in Whitesnake and the whole slip of the tongue album was exceptional. The whole Steve Vai in David Lee Roth stint was too. If you young kids can top that (Jason Becker did in lil ain't enough, and I completely respect him for it) , or top Steves Passion and Warfare or his new album, I would absolutely love it. But you don't want to, because you can't. You can only knock it. Say it is old. That it isn't "New". What happened to "good"? What happened to "better"? "New" is meaningless. "New" is a petulant spoilt, untalented kid, with a trust fund wondering why there isn't any room for him in the world.
You think these nerds could make men weep or women's vag's explode like Vai did at Donnington in 1990? Lol. Modern guitarists spend more time messing around with lenses and aspect ratios than playing/blowing minds.
7:02 yeah hip hop in the 90s was WAY better. It hasn’t evolved its devolved. The only Hip hop that sounds good today are the rappers that imitate 90s rappers like J Cole Denzel Curry etc. Hip Hop was the worst example he could’ve used there.
You think we would have worse music if millions more people tried to play it, propped up bands with money and cheered them on live? You may be a hipster bro. The Beatles were great because they had competition.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I’m not trying to tell you what I think, I’m trying to better understand where you’re coming from. I get some of what you’re saying, but I don’t feel like I have the full picture. I might be a hipster, I’m not even sure what people mean when they say that.
@@billyperry3059 Normies are key to amazing music IMO. A LOT of kids with strict upbrinings get thier minds melted when they see gateway rock bands and then they are hooked.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Yeah, that ties it together nicely. It's the obvious thing that I've been missing. I understand this and a lot of your other videos more coherently now. I have to ask another question, and it might have another obvious answer that I'm missing. Do you thing the good stuff is out there and just isn't getting the promotion it needs, or do you think the good stuff isn't there at all?
The world was a much harder place to live in back then. Even poor people nowadays have way more than poor people 30 years ago. Comfort has killed rock ‘n’ roll. And most of these young people are too stupid to recognize the social problems that are really going on. They mostly just bitch about things that affect only them, instead of all humanity. That’s just my take on it, and I do run a studio, so I see and hear what the young people are doing, and how they look at the world. Of course I don’t mean everybody but it’s definitely the vast majority. Otherwise Rock would probably still be thriving.
people had expectations back in the the day with the new music, now is all lame, dull and artificial, last two years two "new" punk band of teenager girls went viral and later comeout one was a industry psyop and the other one, one of the kids was the daughter of a famous composer and grammy winner so everything is made as a product to consume instead of art to consume.
Plus people back then all thought they were going to die to a nuclear explosion. It makes it more ironic that sadboi music is so popular today. It's mostly about being stuck in your own head because you are not forced to do as much manual labor etc to keep you grounded.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE seriously, I couldn’t agree more. It said that more people don’t just analyze music going back to the 60s or so, and move forward from there. If you do it becomes apparent that music has devolved, at least from the industry standpoint. There’s still Plenty of good bands out there, they’re just really not in the spotlight. You have to dig to find them. That’s what sad to me.
@@fromsiriusitcame 100% agree! The people running the industry disgust me. I understand it’s business, but it’s obvious these days that they really are not music fans, they could just as well be selling lumber, as long as it was pulling in huge profits.
