The Genesis of Rabbinic Judaism | How The Rabbis Adapted Judaism Post 70CE 

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One of my favorite guests on this channel! Bring him back. As many times as you can.

A very interesting and informative program! Keep up the fine programing. You need to have this as a continuing program series. There is so much to learn here!!! Thank you.

Bro this is going on my go to list! I’ve been studying Judaism for months now. Great show as always Derek.

Judaism is MUCH more than just "Orthodox" Jews and "non-religious" Jews. Your channel would benefit greatly if you invited more experts from non-Orthodox branches of Judaism to explain how the rabbis deal with intricacies of Jewish law in the modern world. Someone raised in an Orthodox background simply won't deal with those variations and will present Judaism as far more monolithic than it actually is. It would be like determining Christians as practicing Roman Catholics only and everyone else as secular/lapsed, and treating Roman rulings as the definitive rulings, when the Eastern Orthodox, Chinese Nestorian, and Ethiopian church exist (not to mention 50k Protestant denominations).

Was great to hear a former Jew talking about how the OT isn't what it seems to be and that we can look at it with a caustic eye. This was so different than Rabbi Singer, who just seems to have it in for the NT. In my reading some books on Kabbalah they all say that Rabbis told a lot of fables and stories and regularly argued with God (wish Christian holy people would do that). Thanks, Derek and Dan.

Kudoos to Dan for taking the time to explain this stuff through stories.

I am a Jew and I fall into the same camp of observance as your guest. I have enjoyed your channel for about a year now And I have studied Christian religions And like you am fascinated by by the disabuse of of 2 millennium of supposition about their scriptures . However, as a Jew I feel myself to be an oddity in this I am similarly fascinated by the deconstruction of the Hebrew Bible And the evolution of ideologies regarding its formation and compilation. The same razor of historical inquiry cuts through all in patterns almost as fascinating as the texts themselves. However I take umbrage against A Flippant remark that with a little reflection I think you probably did not even mean. I know few Jews that have any interest in Christianity much less it's textual incongruities. I think many Jews understand that Paul as an author of epistle literature created Christianity. I have seen Tovia on RU-vid and I also subscribe to the Jews for Judaism channel . Both perspectives are anti missionary But themselves have only the most tengential Relationship to Judaism. I have never heard a rabbi speak against Christianity otherwise . There is no need to look to Christianity for topics Given the depth and breadth of Jewish intellectual engagement for over 2000 years . The idea that Jews need to speak against Christianity as a matter of religious obligation Is in my mind an irreverent misunderstanding. Though I speak not ungratefully, It is a reflection of your Particular brand Of interaction. There is no sense in which Jews define themselves against Christianity. The edifice of Judaism Is palatial and intricate Beyond the mansions Of its less inquiring daughter religions , And they add to it Very little in comparison to what it has built up out of itself. I don't know a single rabbi who could comment on Paul for more than a couple of sentences. But can go on for hours about the unity of God the beauty of the sabbath The sublimity of the daily prayer cycle. The relationship of the Jew to God And commandment after glorious commandment through which our exaltation in the Presence is enabled. Apart from the few anti missionary rabbis who are well known to you I'm sure. Paul has no meaning or interest for the Jew. There is too much that is more sublime with which to engage. I love your broadcast and have learned so much. Thank you!

im just goona say you need to interview Burton L. Visotzky about his book "aphrodite and the rabbis", its exactly about how the rabbis adapted Judaism to the realities of a post-70 ce world. Its great stuff.

Super Awesome!!!

Derek, you really need to read Jews, God and History by Max Dimot.

I think the difference is that Paul derives a message of eternal life or death via midrash. In Judaism it explains Law but doesn’t derive it

I've always thought it was interesting how the writers of the Talmud are never scrutinized and questioned the way the gospel writers are, it's like the Talmud has been getting a pass on being placed under the microscope.

This was the best episode ever, and really proves that even the rabbis manipulated the Torah! And Moses in a Delorean, lol.

An example of a “ring around the Torah” is not using a garden tap to get water to drink because some can spill on the lawn and that would be watering the garden.

Another great video Derek - thanks for all the work you do. As a person of no religion who was born and brought up as an observant Jew, I have to point out that your observation about Rabbis lambasting Christianity and Paul is simply not correct - in fact the opposite is the case. One reason was for survival purposes, considering how murderous the Church's persecution and incitement to persecution of the Jews has been anyway. The other reason is that to the Jew who is aware of and kept busy by his religion, other religions simply don’t figure on the landscape - they simply aren’t considered relevant to Jewish life. Rabbi Tuvia Singer is the exception, not the rule as far as the idea of Rabbis lambasting Christianity goes. He is unique for several reasons, one of them his being a rabbi that actually studied Christianity, the second in being outspoken and fearless in criticising and debunking Christianity and thirdly that he demonstrates a compassionate and patient attitude to all.

Qos and Yahweh Unlike the chief god of the Ammonites (Milcom) and the Moabites (Chemosh), the Tanakh refrains from explicitly naming the Edomite Qōs. The omission may be explained, according to some scholars, by assuming there were close similarities between Yahweh with Qōs, that would've made rejection of the latter difficult. Multiple poetic refrains in the Hebrew Bible claim that Yahweh embarked, in some form, from Se'ir in the region of Edom. Recently, the view has been advanced that Yahweh was originally a Kenite god whose cult spread north of Midian to the Israelites. According to this approach, Qōs might possibly have been a title for Yahweh, rather than a name. A further point connecting Yahweh with Qōs, aside from their common origin in that territory, is that the Edomite cult of the latter shared characteristics of the former. Thus, we find that Doeg the Edomite has no problem in worshiping Yahweh, he is shown to be at home in Jewish sanctuaries. Circumcision, an essential Jewish rite, was practiced in Edom. Additionally, supplication of Yahweh is not uncommon where mentions of Qos are lacking: a pottery sherd from the late 9th/early 8th centuries BCE at Kuntillet Ajrud blesses its recipient by "Yahweh of Teman", which some have taken as implying that, at least from an Israelite perspective, Qos and Yahweh were considered identical, though it by no means necessarily proves it. On the other hand, there are some discrepancies which make a direct association between the two difficult. The identification of names in the Egyptian list of Shasu clans in Se'ir creates a continuity problem, since Qos names only emerge some 500 years later. Oded Balaban and Ernst Axel Knauf have claimed that certain names found on Ramesside topographical lists are theophoric and contain references to Qos, which if true would put the deity's earliest attestation more than 600 years before Yahweh's.

"... Torah was not intended specifically for intellectuals but for the entire people." Cassuto, "A Commentary on the Book of Genesis," 2 parts (Jerusalem: Magnes Press, 1961, 1964), "passim."

You should definitely have Islam critiqued on to elucidate the Jewish midrashim and aggadata in the Quran. For example from pirke Avos quote he who kills one person it’s as if he killed the world if you save one person saved the world. There’s many many more

This was really good. Absolutely hilarious too. Moses: Why did you give an idiot like me the Torah? God: Shut up. Look over there. Moses: (sees guy getting flayed) Ahh. Praise be to God. God: Shut up. I know it baby. Honestly, the only explanation for why there are christians at all that makes sense to me now is that the greeks and romans didn't know how goddamn funny some of the hebrew writings are. Christianity is so self serious and frumpy in comparison. It's a wonder it ever had any appeal to anyone at all. Yeah yeah, I know ancient Israelites (and plenty of modern ones too, fucking zionists...) had some utterly deplorable ideas. Plus ya know, the whole "god is an incoherent concept imagined by people who lacked the tools to know better" thing. I'm just saying that this is a lot like the second time I read Hamlet and realized it makes 100% more sense as comedy than a tragedy. The melodrama is cranked up to 11. The prince is wandering around all goth and talking to skulls. Dudes hiding behind curtains saying bonkers catch phrases. A girl throwing herself out a window over her dirtbag crush being a moody bitch. Literally R2-D2 and C-3PO. You can't tell me that isn't a comedy. Feel like with a critical examination of the hebrew bible, we could determine once and for all that the whole thing was an elaborate sketch comedy routine. And we've been getting this whole "religion" thing way wrong. Moses schlepping his way up and down the mountain. The entire flood thing. I'm certain there are some in jokes in genesis that are just sailing over my head. Maybe all the slavery and genocide were just ancient takes on dead baby jokes? I dunno, I'm sure we can work it out.

Very erudite pedagogy.... 🙏🙏🙏🙏👌👌👌👌👌🖖🖖🖖🖖

Thank you so much for this! I converted to Judaism but I don't believe in god. I know that deserves explanation. I am constantly asking my rabbis who, what, and why and it always comes to, "because god said so, and it infuriates me.

Can we get a citation for the author/source mentioned toward the end? Borderlines?

The Bible states that God will gather his ( 12 tribes ) people from all the nations, this didn't happen yet, so why are God's chosen people ?

the subject of this video is actually discussed in Isaiah 29 verse 13 13 The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.[b]

So why does the the Talmud put down nonjews saying it’s not good to be nice to them and more ?? Also why is the old testament only about Jews Israel and Hebrew Did the god of Israel only create Jews Israel and Hebrew Why does The god of Israel think that Jews of earth are great but the rest of the universe is termed lowly Goyeem

31:31 hey what's the Hebrew word for 'the mighty one'

Agnostic Atheist? (Agnostic) Maybe a god/maybe not, (Atheist) but god doesn't exist? Ok, is there some confusion here?

I thought Moses only got the 10 commandments from God on mount Sinai All the other added stuff are man-made traditions and religious customs. THAT is where Israel's problems started. The Scribes and Farisees thousands of add-ons. They made a bugger-up of basic easy to follow laws like: Thou shalt not kill (humans/animals) (Jeremiah 7:21, 25, 31) Thou shall not worship other God's Thou shalt love thy neighbour Thou shalt not covet Jeremiah 8:8-23 says these teachers of the law have twisted the commandments. They had selfish motives in all they did

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יותר מדי גלילה למעלה ולמטה

Abra+'HAM Mu 'RABI' Code'

I guess it must just be me but this was entirely incoherent. Just all over the place word vomit. Again I'm sure it's just my ignorance of the subject matter but I was really hoping to learn and this didn't follow any train of thought whatsoever

Judaism is the result of the hellenisation of Zerubbabel messiah into Jesus Christ. keep in mind that Zerubbabel fulfilled ALL messianic prophecy, Jesus fulfilled none.