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The Genetics of Prehistory. 

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@ShnoogleMan
@ShnoogleMan 2 года назад
Fun fact: In South Africa and Zimbabwe there is a tribe known as the Lemba which claimed to come from the north and had many practices completely different from the neighboring Bantu tribes and much more similar to Jews and Muslims. After genetic testing, it was confirmed that a large percentage of members of their leadership class had the Cohen Modal Haplotype, or the gene on the Y chromosome mentioned in this video that is connected to Jews of the priestly Cohen caste, and that this gene was even more common than in many other Jewish populations.
@lif3andthings763
@lif3andthings763 2 года назад
@Graf von Losinj Bantu expansion went hard
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 года назад
I think I've heard that a possible explanation might be Jews involved in the Arab trade in East Africa, which went very far South in times long before Europeans got there, moving inland and interbreeding or converting people.
@user-ht1vg5we2p
@user-ht1vg5we2p 2 года назад
he mentioned it in the video about countries with obscure histories
@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505
@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 2 года назад
@@Mr.Nichan its actually Yemeni traders who were arabs, in swahili sultanate of East Africa ruled by arabs, which is the only scientifically agreed vector for the small amount of semitic dna in the lemba tribe who are overwhelmingly of bantu extraction genetically, any Jewish practices among the latter is simply due to the Yemeni vector
@lf1496
@lf1496 2 года назад
They came from East Africa, Semetic Africans
@FelipeJaquez
@FelipeJaquez 2 года назад
All of human history has been one giant battle royal it seems.
@ice8776
@ice8776 2 года назад
also the present world, in a way
@scholaroftheworldalternatehist
@scholaroftheworldalternatehist 2 года назад
Be thankful we are living in the most peaceful time of humanity
@michaelhamar3305
@michaelhamar3305 2 года назад
Battlefield 2042 BCE
@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen
@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen 2 года назад
@@scholaroftheworldalternatehist I feel like it's not gonna last long, America doesn't want to be the global hegemon, and it can't be anymore : China is getting stronger, even though it has a massive demographic problem, I can't see it collaspe like the USSR. Russia is getting back from 1991, and they're already a big player, I'd let you imagine if they get their economy together. With a Global American withdrawal, I can't failed African states holding up much longer either. There's global warming to take in account, the world is getting dryer, water wars are becoming a more and more of possibility arroung the world. Something's gonna go wrong, wether it be in Africa, because of water wars, or a fail state collaspe spiraling out of control, because of a reformed Russia or China taking even more imperialists measures. Or because of all of them at the same time. I'm not saying WW3's gonna break out and we're all gonna die, I'm just saying that this century isn't going to be any more peaceful than previous ones.
@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen
@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen 2 года назад
@@thomasp.1828 Social Darwinism justifies liberalism through the belief that those who succeed do so because they are biologically superior. The ideology then got recuperated by the Nazis whom extended the concept to race. His commentary had nothing to do with Social Darwinism.
@oscarromarioflorezcamargo6342
@oscarromarioflorezcamargo6342 2 года назад
I find your ability to trigger both the far Right and left equally really fascinating.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 года назад
Whatifalthist has the same religious beliefs as Roy Moore That's why he hasn't denounced 1/6
@bevbevan6189
@bevbevan6189 2 года назад
It's almost a super power.
@tylarjones9281
@tylarjones9281 2 года назад
He's correct in this video though based on reports of anthropologists and osteologists.
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 2 года назад
He's always criticized both. Though he's increasingly moving further right. That being said he's general neutral unbiased libertarian with right wing leanings.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 года назад
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 He's also misogynistic and Atheophobic He hasn't condemn 1/6 or Trump Also Racist. The horrible bias he has against brown people like Persians shows in 'What if Ancient Greece Industrialized'
@tylerlachney1616
@tylerlachney1616 2 года назад
Whatifalthist: *releases some of the most intriguing and thought provoking videos ever back to back in the span of a few weeks Also whatifalthist: goes awol for weeks to months on end
@matts5247
@matts5247 2 года назад
Meth binges jk
@azanocegrog748
@azanocegrog748 Год назад
Hes not awol, these videod probably take ages to make
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 2 года назад
it's not that our ancient ancestors stories have never been told. They have been told, but long forgotten
@tiktokisthescumoftheearth1530
@tiktokisthescumoftheearth1530 2 года назад
No, Our ancient ancestors stories just passed on through us. Their stories, as well as everyone's stories are still happening.
@johnl.7754
@johnl.7754 2 года назад
Probably as long as each member counted on each other for jobs or survival then the tighter the connections is. Right now in much of the developed or developing world it’s shameful to ask for assistance from own relatives which might be a reason the society became more wealthy.
@Kanadabalsam
@Kanadabalsam 2 года назад
Many of them haven’t been forgotten, we just lost the context that we don’t truly know how ancient they really are
@bobbyhill1110
@bobbyhill1110 2 года назад
@Legends of the Ancients very interesting. u got any other legends that are present throughout the world?
@thebrocialist8300
@thebrocialist8300 2 года назад
That’s the advantage the Neolithic agriculturalists and their descendants had over the others [having been a highly literate people.] Steppe nomads-despite being the forefathers of great cultures and bearers of our common Indo-European cultural family-could not be said to have been a truly historic population until they were assimilated into the local Hellenic and Italic cultures. The parts of Eurasia where Steppe peoples were more demographically dominant and culturally homogenous (e.g. Scythia, Germania and Gaul), don’t even enter the historical record until their ancient Greek and Roman cousins decided to chronicle their existence for some purpose or another.
@ice8776
@ice8776 2 года назад
always amazed how quick it takes for him to write these
@charlietaube4026
@charlietaube4026 2 года назад
I imagine he works on multiple episodes at a time. The quality of the videos over such a short period is also impressive.
@lebleu8843
@lebleu8843 2 года назад
His writing is good because his typos are bad
@chico9805
@chico9805 2 года назад
@@lebleu8843 The typos give his videos added character
@lebleu8843
@lebleu8843 2 года назад
@@chico9805 Fair point. Rudyard is good naured. ; )
@alexanderi1183
@alexanderi1183 2 года назад
no wonder theres alot of mistake
@gdizhd8266
@gdizhd8266 2 года назад
Your stoned ape/ Garden of Eden theory sounds seriously interesting. You should make a video on it. I’ve always had the idea that ancient places like Kemet or greece were responsible for raising human consciousness as a whole.
@nathanseper8738
@nathanseper8738 Год назад
How consciousness emerged is one of those things I’ve wondered about. Stoned Ape sounds like an interesting hypothesis.
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv
@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv Год назад
The original form of edens theory is manu theory of sanskrit texts And that theory gives India or Bharat as origin of humankind.
@Chris-es3wf
@Chris-es3wf Год назад
The theory is from Terence McKenna and is over 30 years old. He didn't come up with it dude.
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 9 месяцев назад
Yeah the Stoned Ape just has less and less support over the years for a reason. The research was very biased, and used of psilocybin related substances proved to have no important effect on evolution
@nagichampa9866
@nagichampa9866 Месяц назад
Possible. But I think human "consciousness" probably popped in many places at once around the globe.
@prestonbane4176
@prestonbane4176 2 года назад
I always had the same theory about the garden of eden story being an allegory for the rise of conciousness--without knowing anything about the cognitive revolution literally in prehistory or any stoned ape theory. I grew up in church and received all those stories literally as if they were fact, but once i was older (and a stoned ape) and became areligious i just assumed that's what the story meant. I thought it was kind of a common cliche conclusion.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 Год назад
there is nothing about consciousness in that story it's all about betrayal of clan causing death being a traitor by eating from foreign tree that is trying to suck tits if two cows ending with none it's about keeping faith of clan forever as bound with ancestral inherited blood nakedness is shame and purity only after poisoning mind with foreign beliefs you start being ashamed about own origin of body of own culture and naturality of own roots
@zazanza
@zazanza 2 года назад
Whatifalthist: "Genetics is showing us an epic history we would have otherwise known nothing about. For, matching with archeology, we found absolutely epic events occurred behind the veil of history from before we have records. Massive wars and migrations took place and leaders rose and fell in the dark of pre-history." Me: "Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Conan, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It is I, his chronicler, who alone can tell thee of his saga. Let me tell you of the days of high adventure!"
@ManiacMayhem7256
@ManiacMayhem7256 2 года назад
The virgin third age vs the chad hyborian age
@diepie5144
@diepie5144 2 года назад
I don't think this works as well but: "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legand fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the third Age by some, an Age yet to come, and Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the wheel of Time. But it was *a* beginning.
@Shagamaw-100
@Shagamaw-100 2 года назад
Ah yes after the Thurian Age.
@i_am_squishy6230
@i_am_squishy6230 2 года назад
In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened...
@gabrielalejandrodoldan4722
@gabrielalejandrodoldan4722 2 года назад
@@i_am_squishy6230 One stood
@CJ_Espinoza
@CJ_Espinoza 2 года назад
What you had to say about Native Americans actually clears up a lot of things for me. I’m mixed European-Native American and when I did a DNA Ancestry test I had small amounts of East Asian,Polynesian and Siberian ancestry as well.
@SHAHIDKC
@SHAHIDKC 2 года назад
Mr. Worldwide.
@CJ_Espinoza
@CJ_Espinoza 2 года назад
@@SHAHIDKC Apparently
@joshuamaldonado250
@joshuamaldonado250 2 года назад
Same, I was thrown off by the East Asian in my test
@CJ_Espinoza
@CJ_Espinoza 2 года назад
@@joshuamaldonado250 Yeah, I was surprised I was as mixed as I was given I just look white to most people.
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 2 года назад
Curious what my results would say. I'm Native Ryukyuan and some articles say they share genetics with the Ainu. I share some resemblance like a lot of facial and body hair, especially compared to most East Asians. I've also been mistaken as Hispanic a few times and even white, but I'd still say most people can tell I'm Asian.
@Nimatzo
@Nimatzo 2 года назад
About IQ: 1. People who grow up on military bases are not randomly selected. In fact they or their parents are selected among others things based on IQ tests. 2. Because those groups have mixed with the local population, it is expected that their trains would be closer to the local population. 3. Immigrants are not randomly selected, nor is it random who chooses to migrate. There is considerable self selection going on and additional selection upon arrival who gets to stay, this is especially true for the USA, the well know "brain drain" effect.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 Год назад
if look at illegal migrants it more less is randomly selected 😂 letting in people from completely different climate is on extreme side of even negative selection people in military are already preselected if it's military from normal nations they don't mix... only these from mixed countries mix not caring about own roots and ethnic instincs nobody selects partner through IQ we aren't even sure how we inherit IQ to even think about replicating it biggest part in it is just uncovering more of inborn potential of it so by putting lots of resources on development of children what is northern strategy but opposite to tropical societies with historically high mortality where it makes no rational sense and creates randomness and general poverty and lack of thinking about accumulation of resources we oversimplify world so many ways usually by own culture filter generalising while there are many axes gradients so we loose real detailed picture focusing on own best known patterns obscuring others with them the more intelligent the more able to believe own bias lots of quotes about intellectuals were created to be aware of it 😂
@LeeGoGators
@LeeGoGators 2 года назад
What's most impressive with this new set of videos you're putting out is I keep coming back to rewatch them and catch something I had missed
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 Год назад
What I really love about this is that he brings up supposedly “settled” topics (like the one about race) and gives a completely new take on it. Take this video for instance, he simultaneously refutes both the “race is a social construct” crowd and the “racial Darwinist supremacy”/“race and IQ” crowd simultaneously. His take on race is extremely unique, and it’s one I think needs further study (and wider acceptance).
@johnpaulcross424
@johnpaulcross424 2 года назад
Austrolopithucus: Noooo, you can’t just randomly decide to get up and move to an entirely new continent for no reason! Premodern humans: *haha legs go walk*
@ultratheman
@ultratheman 2 года назад
"this place boring gonna dip 5000 miles away"
@priestofronaldalt
@priestofronaldalt 2 года назад
@@ultratheman ya know, with how much that seems to happen maybe they just thought it was epic and glorious or something.
@dasbubba841
@dasbubba841 2 года назад
​@@priestofronaldalt Imagine being the first human in modern America, where no one else has stepped before. Miles and miles of completely empty space, just for you and whoever came with you.
@popopop984
@popopop984 2 года назад
@@dasbubba841 Vinland Saga
@johnpaulcross424
@johnpaulcross424 2 года назад
@@dasbubba841 and 8 foot tall cave bears ready to launch your head like a football
@albertalu4583
@albertalu4583 2 года назад
*His output is increasing exponentially, let's hope the trend continues*
@Lucius.Hercules
@Lucius.Hercules 2 года назад
I mean yeah ultimately it's not sustainable but he will probably get pumped by the algorithm in the short term. so here's to more people finding great content!
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 2 года назад
@@Lucius.Hercules yeah
@PantomimeHorse
@PantomimeHorse 2 года назад
Alternate viewpoint: Let's hope it doesn't. I'd rather one long, well-researched, detailed video than three videos like this - a whistle-stop tour over an enormously complex area of historic and scientific inquiry which makes any number of dubious assertions and proclaims them as 'fact'.
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@Vienic2
@Vienic2 2 года назад
@@sanskar4539 ah yes let me conquer the entire world today! how do i get started?
@PantomimeHorse
@PantomimeHorse 2 года назад
My Dude, You REALLY need to provide complete list of your sources when making videos like these. There's a LOT of contentious stuff here, and it's frustrating for me, watching as a layman, not being able to research the origins of your claims.
@amhendrickson93
@amhendrickson93 2 года назад
Thats not how we do things here.
@alsyrriad
@alsyrriad 2 года назад
Ikr it’s frustrating.
@cardenova
@cardenova 2 года назад
Google works because his knowledge is just from a shit ton of books. A lot of his controversial or surprising remarks end up being mass oversimplifications, I find. So when in doubt, just google.
@profpsphacker
@profpsphacker 2 года назад
90% of what he says is bullshit anyway, the Genghis khan story has been debunked a long time ago, he is generally very Eurocentric and his knowledge regarding east Asia is lacking severely, about the whole guilt and shame structure, he has 0 credibility. These video’s are just for entertainment. Nothing more nothing less.
@tamerlane9889
@tamerlane9889 2 года назад
bump
@grantrick1
@grantrick1 2 года назад
One thing that really ought to be talked about here is that you begin the video by saying race is demonstrably not a social construct, if you ignore the socially constructednature of it. No one who says "race is a social construct" is saying "all humans are genetically identical, and geographically separated populations are not in any way distinct." What they're saying is that the physical differences between these peoples don't have an impact on intelligence, capability, morals, or culture. The idea of "black people" and "white people" as distinctions in the minds of Westerners exist because of centuries of categorically dividing people and assuming that some inherently more capable, valuable, or sophisticated than others not on individual merit but on color of skin alone. This hierarchical relationship between people based on the shade of their skin is what we mean when we say "race is a social construct". There are obvious physical differences between distinct populations of humans separated by tens of thousands of years of isolation, and genetic markers that can be used to prove for example that the ancestors of the Japanese were more closely related to the turks than the vietnamese. I don't think at all that you have bad intentions, I mean throughout the rest of the video you demonstrate a clear understanding of the novelty and significance to anthropology/historical study of these physical differences between populations yet their ultimate lack of importance in cultural development. What you don't show is an awareness of the fact that 'race' means more than just physical differences when people talk about race as a social construct. By opening the video with a declaration that race is not a social construct, and using a map to divide people into races, you're sitting down at the lowest point in the flood plain and saying "this is the hill I want to die on." When the floodwaters come rushing in, the only people who will be there to defend you are people with a much less modern view of what physical differences between populations mean. You of course are talking about physical differences being genetic and not morality or intelligence being genetic when you make this kind of map, but sooner or later when you make statements like that your comment sections will be full of people with 1488 and HH in their username throwing FBI crime statistics and links to PDF copies of The Bell Curve at your new viewers. Just be wary of that. Great and entertaining video but a massive slab of red meat unintentionally left out for neonazis at the beginning.
@anvos658
@anvos658 2 года назад
Saying race isn't a social construct is the ability to separate biology from the culture(s) attached with that ethnicity. The video even alludes to the concept that equality amongst biological races isn't a straight equality but rather a relative equality, where the advantages and disadvantages of any given race averages out, so in our modern world its more socioeconomics and the merit of the individual and their upbringing.
@biropgrules
@biropgrules 2 года назад
this video reminded me of the large amount of native norwegians who have ancestry from our original royal family before it went extinct and we became a vassal to a distant king in denmark. Shockingly the successors of the literal viking kings got around A LOT, in particularly our first king Harald Fairhair.
@in4mal_baker270
@in4mal_baker270 2 года назад
Well, they say the ladies loved him for his hair which was quite fair.
@GhostSamaritan
@GhostSamaritan 2 года назад
@Kelvin That's only supposedly true for continental Europe, and it's fairly well-known that the first Christian royalty in Europe tried to legitimize their supposed divinity by insisting they were related to Charlemagne and the other Carolingians, who they (with some mental gymnastics and help from the Pope) could "trace" back to Mary Magdalene, who they implied had children with Jesus. Basically, we don't know how much of it is true and how much of it is propaganda. Remember that the Catholic Carolingians competed with the previous dynasty of the pagan Merovingians! Carolingians likely used every trick in the book to secure their authority.
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 2 года назад
@Kelvin this isn’t necessarily true, undoubtedly the vast majority of Europeans are, but some distant Icelanders and Irish who’s families never mixed with continental Europeans may not be
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 года назад
@@in4mal_baker270 lol nice
@TheMagicJIZZ
@TheMagicJIZZ 2 года назад
@Kelvin you're the idiot. Literally all humans are 16th cousins by definition of biological drift I'm not a Englishman who's inherited my y chromesone haplotype from Charlemagne. We share the same haplotype
@SaNgJuN86
@SaNgJuN86 2 года назад
That gene 7R that’s associated with impulse seeking behavior is fascinating. Thanks for the informative video.
@trollerjakthetrollinggod-e7761
@trollerjakthetrollinggod-e7761 2 года назад
It may have been kept due to selective pressure due to a lack of horses. Without it, societies would need to rely on it's people's will to travel just to stay in contact.
@randlebrowne2048
@randlebrowne2048 2 года назад
@Luis Muñoz That part of the world stayed in the stone age the longest (along with groups like the Maori). Hunting with stone age weapons tends to be pretty risky!
@PantomimeHorse
@PantomimeHorse 2 года назад
Yeah, it's very interesting, but I really wish Whatifalthist would add a detailed list of their sources for further reading. As it stands, this is just a worryingly 'race essentialist' claim dropped into the video, without further comment or explanation.
@Thematic2177
@Thematic2177 2 года назад
@@PantomimeHorse this guy never provides his sources. He probably takes his information from Wikipedia and unironic 4chan.
@perthdude21
@perthdude21 2 года назад
@@PantomimeHorse I'm mostly of native american descent but I must not have the 7R gene. I'm not at all impulsive, I'm actually very restrained, and I'm an introvert. I'm very detail-focused and can be very persistent when performing tasks. While race is definitely a real thing, I'm a bit more skeptical of claims that say things like race x is more inclined to behave this way, race y is more inclined to behave that way etc.
@e.richens3736
@e.richens3736 2 года назад
This topic is always something that has intrigued me, loved the video! Thanks for pumping out so many recently and I hope there are more on this topic or similar!
@Mrzardark
@Mrzardark 2 года назад
First of all, thank you very much Whatifalthist for taking the time to make this video, since I found your channel several months ago I have been fascinated by your content. Everything mentioned in the video was very accurate, except for what I think is an inaccurate generalization of a trend among hunter-gatherers that you mentioned at 15:20. From this minute you mentioned that "... most hunter-gatherer societies the chieftain has like half the women...". In this sentence identify 2 inaccuracies: 1. Related to the "chieftain"; generalizing the presence of this figure among hunter-gatherers is imprecise because the general trend of hunter-gatherers is the absence of this figure, according to the evidence, with some exceptions (Gray, 2012). 2. Related to polygamy; it is true that hunter-gatherers manifest all kinds of mating/relationship systems (monogamy, polygamy and polyandry), but their general tendency is more towards monogamy in most cases, becoming the prevailing system in almost all tropical hunter-gatherer groups (Chapais, 2013). (Although the same cannot be said of "societies" immersed in pastoral systems) Beyond minute 15:27 I didn't find any other inaccuracies.
@HammerHeadzzz
@HammerHeadzzz Год назад
I think a more accurate way of saying this is that 20% of the men take 80% of the women, and I haven’t personally looked into it but I’m sure Hunter gatherers have a social hierarchy, not rigid but still there
@jendreg1935
@jendreg1935 2 года назад
People from Britain to Pakistan: We have our own culture and life is good. Some Chariot Bois: Are you sure about that?!
@acarroll6842
@acarroll6842 2 года назад
Never understood chariot hype. Like, isn't that just horseback archer with extra steps?
@alexmcleod3812
@alexmcleod3812 2 года назад
@@acarroll6842 Horses back then were not strong or large enough to mount someone on their back for long periods of time. When horses were first domesticated they could only be used to pull carts.
@scotbush4338
@scotbush4338 2 года назад
@@acarroll6842 yes, exactly, and it absolutely crushed ancient battlefields. 50 well trained chariots wouldn't even break a sweat defeating 1000 battle hardened veterans on foot
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 2 года назад
@@scotbush4338 witch i find bizarre can you not just throw a few stone's and the horse just falls ore something ?
@090giver090
@090giver090 2 года назад
@Legends of the Ancients And also warriors that were mounted on an actual horses, not some clanky cart ;)
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 года назад
You speak of farming people's "genociding" others, and that probably is at least somewhat true, but it's also important to note that farming cultures just have higher population densities than hunter-gatherer ones. The farmers could have more "swamped" the hunter-gatheres rather than killing them, making them a minority in their own country by just outbreeding/dying less than them. Taking their land probably hurt them in any case, but it might result in the hunter-gatherers getting assimilated and having their genetics diluted as much as them just sticking to hunting and gathering (or farming on inadequate land) and starving.
@dasbubba841
@dasbubba841 2 года назад
Probably more true than the assumption of outright slaughter. Farming, even as inefficient as it was back then, could support far more people reliably on a smaller amount of land than it could hunter-gatherers. People probably did both a lot of hunting-gathering and farming too, for a while.
@nguyentuition1092
@nguyentuition1092 2 года назад
Even recent history would lend credence to slaughter. Only in the past century have we been barely dealing with the idea that genocide might be morally reprehensible.
@MarcelinoDeseo
@MarcelinoDeseo 2 года назад
Or the hunter group might have avoided the farming group by moving farther, either live in mountains or remote islands
@kosa9662
@kosa9662 2 года назад
@@dasbubba841 Farming also means new epidemies etc, they slaughtered hunter-gathers directly or indirectly, just as Europeans vs native Americans.
@edwardmauer7442
@edwardmauer7442 2 года назад
Genocide is definitely the wrong term, the only thing I dislike about this video. As you put it, they were simply swamped, overwhelmed, outbred etc...
@dannyferraro6365
@dannyferraro6365 2 года назад
Love the channel, very thorough and thought out videos that are consistent. Thank you 🙏🏻
@jurrasicgrant2307
@jurrasicgrant2307 2 года назад
Great video, just a bit of correction, the sculptures found in the Indus Valley Civilization showcase the people having Dravidian facial features like the famous dancing girl. Also, IVC was a synthesis of Ancient Iranian Hunter Gatherers who themselves had significant AASI ancestry and the indigenous inhabitants of India i.e., the AASI people.
@akashbharadwaj02
@akashbharadwaj02 2 года назад
Dravidian Aryan bullshit
@HammerHeadzzz
@HammerHeadzzz Год назад
Actually they were Albanian
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 9 месяцев назад
@@HammerHeadzzzbro just made that up with no elaboration for free 💀
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 2 года назад
King's and general's literally did something on the unlikelyhood of the Genghis Khan thing the other day.
@sinoroman
@sinoroman 2 года назад
Yeah, it was a good video
@FullAdder
@FullAdder 2 года назад
The Wheel of Time turns, and ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legends fade to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. -Robert Jordan
@JG_Enigma
@JG_Enigma 2 года назад
I appreciate the WOT reference, but I don't see how it connects to the video.
@JG_Enigma
@JG_Enigma 2 года назад
@@malexosh Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up.
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 года назад
@@JG_Enigma maybe about abraham
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 года назад
i think it was master oogway tho
@CapitalMort
@CapitalMort 2 года назад
The wheel weaves as the wheel wills.
@j045ua
@j045ua 2 года назад
I would like to see more of these types of videos regarding genetics and humans throughout history. Thank you very much for your effort in making these beautifully narrated videos!
@Numba003
@Numba003 2 года назад
This takes me back to my several anthropology courses in college. I quite enjoyed those; learned a ton of fascinating stuff. Thank you. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends! :)
@scholaroftheworldalternatehist
@scholaroftheworldalternatehist 2 года назад
It always amazes me how much of the human story is lost to us. Entire kings and wars and cities lost forever because we couldn't write. Wonder how true it will be of our era
@090giver090
@090giver090 2 года назад
Considering that majority of our information is either on electronic devices or on some very perishable carriers (paper) the forecast is quite grim. If history ever taught us anything it's that we must do stone carving more ))
@alexandrub8786
@alexandrub8786 2 года назад
If we colapse then we are non-writing humans considering that most of our information is writen on paper or electronics(easier to write and produce) instead of rock or clay or something that has a longer lifespan and resistance.
@090giver090
@090giver090 2 года назад
@@alexandrub8786 Maybe archaeologists of tomorrow will be able to read CDs and SSDs (or even take reading from HDDs) but good luck for them decrypting MS Word file formatting :)
@TheMyrmo
@TheMyrmo 2 года назад
Ask anyone who can play VHS tape.
@Kaddywompous
@Kaddywompous 2 года назад
The sobering reality is that absolutely everything that anyone ever does will eventually be forgotten.
@ronniebby3148
@ronniebby3148 2 года назад
I wonder to what extent genetic tests signify our lineages. I understand some methods of that data collection just isn't fully developed as it still uses sample aggregation to an extent. In the future we have methods of how prehistory really looked like. Thanks for the uploads!
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 2 года назад
That's always a trippy thought I have. Especially since I'm native Ryukyuan and we're a bit of an anthropological mystery like the Ainu. Turns out, we even share genetics with the Ainu.
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 года назад
A wacky fact I heard when I was watching videos about paleogenetics is that you have ancestors that you have no genes from. (It's easy to see that you must have ancestors that you have no chromosomes from, since you only have 46 gentically distinct chromosomes, but "crossing over" during meiosis means you have some DNA from people you don't have full chromosomes from, and I'm not sure how far back you would have to go before it becomes probable that there are some people you have absolutely NO genetics from due to any crossed over bits on other chromosomes being lost, but I can see two ways that this would eventually happen.)
@davidsuda6110
@davidsuda6110 2 года назад
From what I understand you take a survey of people that offer to do genetic testing. You check records that are often partial or have massive gaps. Most of this is really just sophisticated guess work. It will be admended throughout my lifetime and my child's. One day it may even seem quaint the emphasis we put on it. Remember environment matters and it can effect genetics.
@Amokra
@Amokra 2 года назад
To me it's interesting but beyond 5 to 6 generations back it has no bearing on you in modern day. I hate those commercials where the people find out they have a "majority" genetic material from another group than their family heritage and change their entire lives. I say enjoy looking into your past but remember you should respect the past but not obsess on the bad that may have/not happened. You are who you are :)
@cek0792
@cek0792 2 года назад
@@urphakeandgey6308 what??? No way! From that island chain south of Japan? That's so cool!
@michaelmoran6364
@michaelmoran6364 Год назад
This might be this channels greatest work. Honestly amazing stuff I hope it's fully sourced out as it does a fantastic job painting the picture of a very bleak canvas.
@bredmond812
@bredmond812 2 года назад
This is a great video! Have you seen the recent genetic findings of the Tarim Basin Mummies? It's significant. EDIT: I would love to see sources on the topic of many people as direct descendants of a single person in the same way as Genghis Kahn.
@yyny0
@yyny0 2 года назад
I recently saw a very interesting video from a linguist arguing that language was used not just as a form of communication, but also as a tool to store information. He argued that many of the stars/gods/monsters we know today were actually just memorable characters used to describe important thoughts and instructions that were lost in time as writing became more prevalent. Many creationist stories would also fit into this theory, so I could totally see stories like the Garden of Eden and the Great Flood as being based in reality.
@adaonielsen6143
@adaonielsen6143 2 года назад
It's a pretty good concept
@J.rockwall
@J.rockwall 2 года назад
Hey mate, could you link that video? Sounds interesting. Thanks.
@luke_cohen1
@luke_cohen1 2 года назад
The Garden of Eden is believed to be the ancient Saharan grassland of North Africa that disappeared due to natural climate change. Humans were forced to leave and search for a new home elsewhere. The Great Flood, meanwhile, is likely about a civilization that lived in the modern Black Sea basin that was permanently flooded after the melting of ice age era glaciers. There’s a surprising amount of ruins from that time period on the Black Sea floor that corroborate this theory.
@ISAYWORDS1
@ISAYWORDS1 2 года назад
@@luke_cohen1 it's also crazy when you realize human beings developed such uniquely keen eyesight to detect predators and locate ripe fruit... We literally can see because of snakes and fruit it's a little too correct.
@audhumbla6927
@audhumbla6927 2 года назад
interesting, i think this is where astrology once came from, gicing the stars names and chatichatistics to follow and regocnize threw the year, they each get some charicaristics suitible for that time of year, etc, and more and more conplex over time
@nakshatra1402
@nakshatra1402 2 года назад
Being from India, it has just become natural to not take any claims of migration in complete seriousness. Gotta get into the genetic studies myself to confirm anything at this point.
@onlypranav
@onlypranav 2 года назад
I tried digging into it a while back. This video is pretty accurate. He mentioned in the video that all humans are very closely related, and that is is even more true for Indians. The difference b/w dravidians and aryans is minuscule evident from some of the graphs in the video
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@gustavkirchoff4633
@gustavkirchoff4633 2 года назад
There's a lot stuff in this video that he's just pulling from thin air, claims without any reasonable proof, for example the entire indus valley part, is based purely on speculation.
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979 2 года назад
@@gustavkirchoff4633 Yup Indus valley never depicted any racial hierarchy like he said But we can guess that the middle eastern farmers were the elite class from genetics
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979 2 года назад
The migrations to India you need to know about are 1 Out of Africa migrants - The first people. They make up the tribals now 2 Iranian farmers - Came and mixed with the natives to form Indus valley people This IVC people moved south and mixed with the natives again to create Dravidians called ancestral south Indian (ASI) 3 Indo Aryans - Central Asians who came and mixed with the already mixed IVC people forming Ancestral North Indian (ANI) Then the ANI and ASI mixed again to create modern day Indians The individual components may vary according to caste and region (for example A Brahmin will have more Indo Aryan DNA Northerners a bit higher than south. While a lower caste from North India will be more related to ASI people)
@yojoe5311
@yojoe5311 2 года назад
A large amount of information condensed into a comparatively short video. I would hate to know how long it took you to compile all of that. Thanks for posting. Brilliant stuff.
@vinkelitz
@vinkelitz 2 года назад
suffering from whatifalthist withdrawal rn...
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 года назад
8:44 Your map is missing New Guinea, the most underknown birthplace of agriculture, with agriculture going back 9000 years.
@GeoPol01
@GeoPol01 2 года назад
Just watched Dune, seems it’s history of humanity is a good metaphor, with Africa as the “earth”
@RigbyWilde
@RigbyWilde 2 года назад
Read the book. It has far more details about this. The Bene Gesserit, or "The Club of the Super Women" (as I friend of mine calls), has this plan of mixing genetic lines of the big houses for centuries. Believing that one day, a "superman" will born and lead humanity to greatness. But they dont know exactly what he will do. Neither I. I had just read the first book
@JBGARINGAN
@JBGARINGAN 2 года назад
The Bene Geserit breeding lineages for a hidden purpose is the Rothschilds and the globalist banker conspiracy
@jackcarter9872
@jackcarter9872 2 года назад
@@JBGARINGAN BINGO
@IvorMektin1701
@IvorMektin1701 2 года назад
The Bene Gesserit need to make me a sandwich!
@nathanielwindsor7679
@nathanielwindsor7679 2 года назад
@@JBGARINGAN The global banking families are more like the spacing guild tbh
@yanfrias946
@yanfrias946 2 года назад
bro, where is the next video? is everything ok?
@livingood1049
@livingood1049 2 года назад
Man that was awesome! I could have listened to hours more but I'm sure that was tons and tons of research! Nice work ;)
@makeytgreatagain6256
@makeytgreatagain6256 2 года назад
west Africans are not Bantus, if you want to lump them together the accurate term would be "Niger-Congo". but otherwise good video
@Holding0-6
@Holding0-6 2 года назад
I think that would be true if he was talking about linguistics
@makeytgreatagain6256
@makeytgreatagain6256 2 года назад
@@Holding0-6 no because he said “Bantu” and west Africans are not genetically Bantu nor are we culturally Bantu, we do however share a common origin but that’s about it. It like labelling all of Western Europe “Germanic” encompassing Celtic regions just because. That would be stupid wouldn’t it? Well same applies here if he is going to lump us together then use the correct term “Niger-Congo” or split the two into “Bantu” and “west African”
@Holding0-6
@Holding0-6 2 года назад
@@makeytgreatagain6256 Got ya
@Kermatrix
@Kermatrix 2 года назад
He completely skipped the back-migration of farmers into Africa but mentioned all other migrations shown on the map and went on to mention the relatively insignificant Southern Arabian migration into the Ethiopian highlands, as if that was what's responsible for modern Horner genetics, which is very misleading. It almost feels like it was done on purpose, tbh.
@makeytgreatagain6256
@makeytgreatagain6256 2 года назад
@@Kermatrix most horn Africans haven’t gotten much MENA ancestry the back to Africa migration prettymuch only effected Northern Africa. East African admixture with the Middle East is new only the Habesha (northenr Ethiopians) are mixed with ancient Middle Easterners apart from them all other horn Africans are 90-100% SSA
@kokofan50
@kokofan50 2 года назад
You’re conflating Indo-Aryan with Indo-European. The Indo-aryans are a sub group of the Indo-Europeans
@godscroissant1539
@godscroissant1539 2 года назад
Thats true
@TheSwordofStorms
@TheSwordofStorms 2 года назад
Namely encompassing Iranians and North Indians but excluding modern Europeans.
@srikrishnak196
@srikrishnak196 2 года назад
@@TheSwordofStorms Iranians and Indians are Aryans but the others aren't.
@kokofan50
@kokofan50 2 года назад
@@offthemountains that’s just not true. Indo-Iranian is a subgroup of Indo-European. You’re right the term was changed from aryan, but it was Iranian, which is, funnily, a derivative of aryan.
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@santiagoelguero8458
@santiagoelguero8458 2 года назад
I genuinely appreciate your content enormously. Thank you for contributing your insane insight and improving our knowledge of the past! Would love to talk w/u about so many topics that I also find fascinating as well as opportunities for the future based on your predictions. Cheers and a big hug man!
@ChippyPippy
@ChippyPippy 2 года назад
Race is a social construct. The correct word is Breed. If we were different races we wouldn't be able to mix. An example is to look at the difference between dogs and birds. Dogs are different breeds, so they can mix. Birds are different races and that doesn't allow them to mix.
@ponternal
@ponternal 2 года назад
It is possible to mix them but no one has tried hard enough
@nagichampa9866
@nagichampa9866 Месяц назад
Birds and dogs are different species, not races. Races is like a German Shepherd vs. a Chihuahua; they're very different within the same specie, they can still breed. With humans, we have different groups, but these groups cannot be defined as races because the differences aren't significant enough.
@ChippyPippy
@ChippyPippy Месяц назад
@@nagichampa9866 A lot of words just to say breed and race are interchangeable.
@riverblack123
@riverblack123 Месяц назад
Wolves, Coyotes and German Sheppards can mix. They all behave differently on a genetic level, with wolvez being bigger and more intelligent.
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 года назад
prehistory us such a great thing to learn because writing was not a thing yet so historians have to used other means like well genetics, archaeology and other fields of science
@alexanderi1183
@alexanderi1183 2 года назад
it's quite infuriating because some weak race managed to survive. Because the conquerors wanted to be merciful.
@cdemr
@cdemr 2 года назад
@@alexanderi1183 Weak race? Where are you going with this exactly... I kind of want to know but at the same time I'm scared
@alexanderi1183
@alexanderi1183 2 года назад
@@cdemr any civilization that couldn't adapt.
@srikrishnak196
@srikrishnak196 2 года назад
@@alexanderi1183 Who are you to say like that? God or Nature??
@alexanderi1183
@alexanderi1183 2 года назад
@Art Man how am I a nazi? I never specified on what race should be eradicated, just the weak ones.
@AmericaeDominaturOmnibus
@AmericaeDominaturOmnibus 2 года назад
What if you were to make a video about countries that have a very low chance of becoming superpowers, and how they could. I think that would be a very interesting video.
@gasmaskboi6904
@gasmaskboi6904 2 года назад
He did
@adrianvelez4147
@adrianvelez4147 2 года назад
>brazil
@ezzelofficial7563
@ezzelofficial7563 2 года назад
Nice try Gambian leaders
@Zhaopow3
@Zhaopow3 2 года назад
How about talking about real countries that had a low chance of becoming superpowers but did. Theres enough alternate history stuff on RU-vid, and history is more interesting than people can come up with anyways
@ollllj
@ollllj 2 года назад
Eg: Australia can not even win a war against emus, even by using automatic riffles, or other invasive species like, checks notes... Rabbits!
@kji794
@kji794 2 года назад
Just discovered this channel, and I’m super glad I did! Awesome work.
@squirlez6349
@squirlez6349 2 года назад
Cool video! I learned a lot. Probably the most interesting thing that I learned was that Africa has SO MUCH genetic diversity, more than pretty much anywhere else. That was pretty amazing to me, but it makes sense with your explanation. One criticism that I had, if you don't mind, was with the beginning of the video. You kind of conflated the ideas of race being a social construct with race not existing. This was interesting to me, as I've never seen someone claim that race does not exist. What's meant by saying "race is a social construct" is that it's something humans invented. Like you said, there is more genetic diversity in Africa than pretty much anywhere else, yet anyone whose ancestors are south of the Sahara would usually just be called black (at least outside of Africa). Yet, at the same time, we distinguish between races like White and Middle Eastern, which genetically are actually quite similar. The boundaries, or races, are arbitrary human constructions with little to no inherent meaning. Genetic diversity is real and races are real, but only one of those things would exist without humans coming up with a name. Again, I enjoyed the video, but I've seen this misunderstanding before and just wanted to point it out since you seem like a well-reasoned person.
@MrThatguyuknow
@MrThatguyuknow 2 года назад
Early prehistory is absolutely my jam. Thanks for scratching this criminally under-reached itch of mine.
@Talesofaweedsmoker
@Talesofaweedsmoker 2 года назад
As a African I'm stunned to find out my ancestors have less true man DNA then everyone else meaning I have more proto-human DNA then I had originally thought wow. Human genetics are impressive indeed so the current people who live in Europe have no or very little relations to the original ancestors. A lot of native or original people got wiped out or really just never got a chance to pass down their genetic code.
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 2 года назад
There is more biodiversity I'm Africa, even among the same country's. Than the rest of humanity. I call that successful because bodies with more human diversity, and even diversity from other hominid species, will lead to large successful genetic diversity. Which means more successful birthrate fertility and are less likely to be sick to any disease. With the exception of diabetes. I'll never understand the African subseptability to diabetes compared to other populations. That oddity aside I basically mean what I say. It's a good impression.
@resmur8095
@resmur8095 2 года назад
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 maybe in ancient africa, the genetic mutation and competition that results in more insulin are just lost since for most of human history there are an abundance of sweet fruits in the vast African forest so survival doesn't really need to require super efficient processing of glucose
@madflaka4087
@madflaka4087 2 года назад
Yes they original hunter and gatherers got replaced by Neolithic farmers and indo-European pastoralists latter we are a mix of these 3 groups genetically in Europe while West Africa remanded far from Neolithic civilization meaning Africa maintained a hunter and gatherer society and thus was untouched by massive modern civilizations and trade with neighbors for about thousands of years.
@audhumbla6927
@audhumbla6927 2 года назад
really, your surprised....? 👀 isnt it obvious? when u like... look at humans? not trying to be rude but isnt this obvious from appearance, and also kind of, considerd very evil for a white person to say even tho entirely true.... becasue yk, white people been saying this.................. What do you call that, intuition? Selfawareness? Rationality?
@Talesofaweedsmoker
@Talesofaweedsmoker 2 года назад
@@audhumbla6927 not really if you hadn't know what to look for.
@iammuscular4326
@iammuscular4326 2 года назад
Buddha was born around 623BC India was already civilised at that time it's fascinating to think that world was so undeveloped till then
@demun6065
@demun6065 2 года назад
This definitely needs a part 2. So many other interesting facts you could talk about.
@stevanstankoviii-2989
@stevanstankoviii-2989 2 года назад
I just imagine how many great stories and great men were forgotten over the years
@JL-ti3us
@JL-ti3us 2 года назад
Your humble attempt map is pretty good, one thing I'd check though when it comes to Madagascar, it would be more accurate to classify them as an African-Asian mix than as distinct or seperate.
@jackyex
@jackyex 2 года назад
Well most if Latin America is quite inaccurate too, but I don't think the genetic component there can be really illustrated using only solid colors.
@EPK123
@EPK123 2 года назад
@@jackyex latin america is an spectrum
@jackyex
@jackyex 2 года назад
@@EPK123 exactly, as I said solid colors can't really capture Latin america's genetic diversity.
@JL-ti3us
@JL-ti3us 2 года назад
@@jackyex solid point, even looking at South Africa in the Cape; that mixed designation only applies to about 50% of the population of that area, with 25% of the remainder being entirely white and the other half black. Though the only way to ever wholly be accurate I suppose is statistics and percentages rather than map distributions.
@jackyex
@jackyex 2 года назад
@@JL-ti3us well Afrikaans people are white but they have around the range of 13~25 khoisan dna, but they still look very white so there's that.
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 года назад
1:58 Your map has races and "mix"es of races. What makes one population a race and another a mix or an in-between race? Are there actually sharp changes at the borders you draw? Is it not more like a continuum in many places? (I suppose "mix" could just mean different races coexist in similar quantities in certain places, and I realize it's harder to map a continuum, but I think there is quite a bit of continuum of individual genetics, not just of population statistics.)
@AssociationGamers
@AssociationGamers 2 года назад
Very interesting. It's disappointing that nobody is aloud to talk about, let alone think about things like this now, but in fact encouraged not to think about it at all.
@stonedape2406
@stonedape2406 2 года назад
Ok this video is kinda wrong. First of all, the main 3 'tribes', who form the genetic makeup for most of Europe are the indo-European Yamnya peoples of the Pontic-Caspian step, early european farmers from mostly anatolia and the original western hunter gatherers of western Europe. It seems that on average northern Europe has higher admixture of western hunter gatherer, averaging around 20% vs the lower 15%. However, the neolithic farmers themselves were around on average 80% anatolian farmer and 20% western hunter gatherer. The yamnya people themselves, that is the group who later formed the corded ware, were around 60-70% eastern hunter gatheer who had in turn 25% western hunter gatherer and 75% ancient north eurasian. The eastern hunter gatherers were one of the groups from the last ice age in europe, from being present from the Baltic sea to the ural mountains. The other 40-30% of yamnaya peoples are caucasian hunter gatherers from the north of the Caucasus, who themselves have some ancient north eurasian mixture. So all in all a lot of the admixture of modern day europeans is of mesolithic European hunter gatherer descent. Also, 'white people' were formed as well in Europe, with the scandinavian hunter gatherers being a mix of the western and eastern Hungary gatherers having blonde/brown hair, blue eyes and light skin. The western hunter gatherers were also 'white' having overwhelmingly blue eyes, brown hair and an intermediate skin colour (probably similar to present day Mediterraneans or some indigenous Americans). The eastern hunter gatherers likely had brown hair, brown eyes and mostly brown but some blonde hair. Blonde hair comes from the ancient north eurasians in siberia.
@alastair9446
@alastair9446 2 года назад
I agree, starting to think this guy is some ANTIFA. Talk everything bad about the west and hold mass murderers from other cultures in high regard.
@1800JimmyG
@1800JimmyG 2 года назад
Yes thank you he kinda butchered parts of the indoeuropean migrations and it makes me wonder about the rest of it.
@flash4901
@flash4901 2 года назад
Most europeans orginated from the middle east. There is a specific genome that links back all the way to middle east. Its also why you see much of southern europe have a mix of arabian looks and then blue eyes from mixing with northern eurasians
@stonedape2406
@stonedape2406 2 года назад
@@flash4901 this could only be said to be true for the people in the very sputh of europe. Anatolian farmer admixture is at the most less than a third in most aread above the alps, and thats Mediterranean farmer admixture, which is already 20% WHG.
@HansLemurson
@HansLemurson 2 года назад
The whole "Race is a social construct" thing is often misunderstood. It actually agrees with exactly what you said: People might have different ancestry, but our ideas of how and why to group people in different ways, and what we decide this means, THAT is a construct of society, and not one based in genetics. "Black" groups people of many different ancestries into one group, and different cultures have different ideas of what makes someone "black". -Someone with African ancestry having dark skin and densely curled hair is a biological reality. -Saying that Angolans and Ethiopians and people with a single dark-skinned parent are all "Black" is the social construct.
@alsyrriad
@alsyrriad 2 года назад
Thanks for writing this comment. Some people swing the pendulum way too far.
@meikala2114
@meikala2114 2 года назад
race was developed as a marketing tool by slavers in Virginia and is therefore a social construct
@alhasanalradhi6953
@alhasanalradhi6953 2 года назад
I think we just need to upgrade our vocabulary from what we using today which mostly came from European trying to make themselves superior somehow. So we can use the word "ancestry" or "bloodline" to describe ourselves biologically and use the word "ethnicity" to describe ourselves culturally. And don't use the word "Race" at all.
@alsyrriad
@alsyrriad 2 года назад
@@alhasanalradhi6953 One hundred percent agree.
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 года назад
@@alhasanalradhi6953 About the word "ancestry", I think there might be a jargon issue here I learned about when looking into paleogenetics. It would seem logical to say that your "ancestry" includes all of your ancestors, and maybe even to say that you have 50% "ancestry" from each parent, 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great grandparent, and so on, but that's not how actual genetics works. People often think of a child as a 50-50 mixture of their parents genes, a 25-25-25-25 mixture if their grandparents genes, etc., but genes mostly travel as whole chromosomes at a time, and you only have 46 of those, whereas you can have as many as 64 great great great great grandparents (you might have less due to cousins mating), and some of them probably gave you more than 1 chromosome. You still have some genes from ancestors you don't have whole chromosomes from, due to "crossing over" where DNA is passed between paired chromosomes during meiosis, but this doesn't provide as much, and there are ways that ALL the genetics from an ancestor, including those preserved due to "crossing over", could be lost. (An interesting side-note is that everyone has mitochondrial DNA passed down asexually through their mothers direct female line and all males have Y-chromosomes from their male lines which never "cross over" with X-chromosomes and so are also passed on asexually.) Thus, you can see that you do not have the same amount of genetic information from ancestors you are equally removed from (even if you only care about which ancestor of a certain distance the gene actually came from rather than counting different identical genes as the same. These identical genes happen mostly because your ancestors share some more remote ancestors, meaning there are some people you are multiply descended from, but that would increase the fraction of your mathematical "ancestry" that person represents as well as the genetics you get from them.) Moreover, you must have some ancestors that you have NO genetics from. Another issue is the difference between genotype and phenotype. Most genes DNA doesn't do very much. (People often make a big deal about how DNA that doesn't code for proteins is not "junk DNA" and how it has all these super important purposes, and may use exaggerating language to get you excited about their reseach, as scientists and science reporters usually do, but that doesn't mean every piece of DNA is equally important.) There isn't an obviously good way to mathematically measure phenotype contributions as a whole, because the relatative importance of each gene is subjective and not fully understood anyway, but it's clearly not the same as genetics, and phenotype is what actually matters and elements of it are what are noticeable without genetic testing.
@MTBJJ2001
@MTBJJ2001 2 года назад
Just rediscovered this channel love it Bruh so happy such interesting topics that no one else seems to cover
@PhilippeLenain
@PhilippeLenain 2 года назад
An excellent vidéo on the subject, far better documented than the average. Well done, I subscribe!
@cobaltmn5716
@cobaltmn5716 2 года назад
Regarding your Garden of Eden story, i have actually had a similar intuition about it: the story itself is not literal, but a metaphor for the process of gaining sapience. The observation i made was that by gaining the ability to tell good from evil, humans also gained the ability to become malicious, and were therefore fallen.
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@Halera-
@Halera- 2 года назад
The link between the Garden of Eden and the Stoned Ape history enthrals me. Because it touches the very core of our humanity. However, to be honest, I don't believe. At the time people started creating culture like habits, music and clothes, I suppose they hadn't got a language able to preserve such memories. Whatifalthist videos are the absolute best content on YT. Based on solid reasoning and necessary theories. They spread knowledge and encourage thinking.
@kakalimukherjee3297
@kakalimukherjee3297 2 года назад
@@sanskar4539 ok boomer
@Mr.Nichan
@Mr.Nichan 2 года назад
@@Halera- "Whatifalthist videos ... based on solid reasoning" This is actually my main problem with whatifalthist. His focus is on alternate history, which implies that history can be predicted based on large-scale features and trends and important events. This is fun, but I don't think it's very true (and I don't think he does either), since history seems very much like a chaotic system to me, and to the extent that it is true, I think you would need to be a lot more rigorous to find the actual answers. Anyway, this focus requires him to use theories of what the relatively simple explanations for various things in history are. These explanations tend to strike me as probably practically unverifyable, since there are so many possible competing explanations and history is such a small and uncontrolled dataset where large-scale events are concerned. Basically, he has a particular, fairly complex and mostly very credible-sounding, worldview he's constructed, which he can use to reach conclusions consistent with that worldview, but I wouldn't say his reasoning is actually convincing. (It's better than a lot of other people's explanations of why things happen in history, though.)
@yucol5661
@yucol5661 2 года назад
Or maybe it’s a metaphors for childhood? Children do have to learn and loose ignorance on what is and isn’t allowed and they grow and loose their easy, safe life.
@LoganLS0
@LoganLS0 2 года назад
Kind of seems like Genghis Khan would've spread some gene 7R around.
@cupidsfavouritecherub9327
@cupidsfavouritecherub9327 2 года назад
7R probably isn't the only gene that influences risk-taking and impulse
@ivanpetkovic2130
@ivanpetkovic2130 2 года назад
From what Kings & Generals said Genghis Khan wasnet even that big of a... lets call him a seducer, although this is youtube so anything and everything can be bullshit
@johnl.7754
@johnl.7754 2 года назад
@@ivanpetkovic2130 Yeah saw that video also…looks like the folklore got spread around too well.
@inominado1774
@inominado1774 2 года назад
Genghis Khan dramastically change the genetics of world more than europeans
@LoganLS0
@LoganLS0 2 года назад
@@inominado1774 the way Social Justice types give the Mongols a pass because they aren't white is really frustrating.
@ReD_2022
@ReD_2022 2 года назад
My favorite RU-vidr period! Keep up the good work man
@zacharysmith5947
@zacharysmith5947 2 года назад
I really enjoy your content. Amazing how science and genetics has broadened our knowledge of "pre-history". Having a better view is helpful to a greater understanding.
@thomaswomack9162
@thomaswomack9162 2 года назад
Hot dang another new one. Can't wait to watch! The map at 1:49 is fun to me because I watched that Ancient Americas (Another good channel btw) video on natives arriving to the new world via the Bering Straight and how one Siberian language family has its cousins found in the great plains region of the US due to migration. Have you considered doing videos on the trends of certain states? I've lived in the south all of my life and it's weird seeing industry (especially automotive work) coming to this area out of the sun belt. Presuming nothing fractures the US, do you see any states in the next 50 years becoming more or less dominant due to economy/population?
@thomaswomack9162
@thomaswomack9162 2 года назад
*Rust belt, I live in the sun belt. Got my words mixed up!
@thomaswomack9162
@thomaswomack9162 2 года назад
lol and then you cover just that.
@damienmcgonnell6032
@damienmcgonnell6032 2 года назад
@@thomaswomack9162 would you happen to be from the American south?
@dcoulter2685
@dcoulter2685 2 года назад
@Kelvin then how else did people arrive in the Americas? Did they sprout from the spring grass?
@vinkelitz
@vinkelitz 2 года назад
Damn, what the hell Whatifalthist... you're putting these videos out like bullets flying out of an MG42
@thomasboorer-williams4253
@thomasboorer-williams4253 2 года назад
I don’t know if you will see this mate but the number one thing I appreciate about your videos and this one is the lack of absolutism you place on your ideas. I agreee with much of what you say but the fact you present it as a theory is so refreshing and more to the point accurate. This is a theory not a fact, even though I agree with the assessments you make.
@samuelturner1668
@samuelturner1668 2 года назад
We need more videos. They're so great. None in a month, I'm sad :(
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 2 года назад
I love that Arabs and Jews have the same common ancestor… Although they pretty much already knew that.
@sachemofboston3649
@sachemofboston3649 2 года назад
Yes they’ll still fight and call each other colonizers
@commisaryarreck3974
@commisaryarreck3974 2 года назад
@Graf von Losinj Oy vey! That's antisemitic stop noticing obvious things like that. Reality is antisemitic
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505
@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 2 года назад
@@sanskar4539 ram is Raamah son of Cush Ben Ham Ben Noah, krishna is Cush who is the eponymous ancestor of the biblical powerful Land of Cush which stretched from the Kingdom of Kush in Sudan, to ancient Kish in Babylon (which the bible says was built by Nmrod son of Cush, first king and most powerful ruler in biblical history) Modern REAL descendants of Cush, Nimrod, are the Cushites of north east africa such as the Beja (known as the elite Medjay of ancient Egypt) in Egypt and Sudan as well as Somalis and Ethiopians eritreans, the father of Cush who is Ham also had Mizraim as a son (ancestor of Ancient, Coptic and Felahin Egyptians) as well as the other son of Ham called Phut, father of the Amazigh berbers of north africa (interestingly the oldest use of the name berber is found among Somalis, who have a recorded 2000 year old coastal city on the gulf of aden, called berbera, in fact, this gulf was until recently known to the entire world as the Gulf of Berbera) Its funny how Hindu worship my Cushite ancestors like Cush, and his sons like Raamah, these are historical patriarchs mentioned in the bible whose descendants like nimrod conquered the entire world and founded the first human empires in sumeria such as Babylon
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 2 года назад
@@sachemofboston3649 yep the irony. If Abraham was resurrected today he would be condemning both his descendants.
@Merovingian60
@Merovingian60 2 года назад
I always imagined the garden of eden story was the story of humans leaving the valley in Ethiopia that we came from
@ogolow570
@ogolow570 2 года назад
💯
@casperjoshi
@casperjoshi 2 года назад
There are similar creation myths in various cultures that have different settings and contexts. Garden of Eden is one of the stories that comes from Judea - Christian - Islamic mythology. Hindu mythology mentions the first living beings as being created by Brahma who was himself created by Vishnu (the closest equivalent to the supreme God in Hindu Mythology). Manu and his wife Shatrupa were the first Human beings and were created by Brahma to populate the earth and this is where the similarity ends (no garden of eden, no forbidden fruit, no banishment to earth etc.)
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
@Prat667 . ever heard of out of India theory? Which is written in our ancient books with a lot of proof of it. We fought Danabas i.e. people of the danube river( Russia) and Asurs and Daityas from Middle East and Mesopotamia (Iran) . So much similarities between pagan religions ,zorastanians of iran, religion of europe before judaism and Christianity . There’s a shiva ling in Ireland. People persecute nature worshippers and witches in Europe which actually shows similarity to hindu culture. In Africa too there are two nations sumali and mali named on Sri Lankan king Ravana’s Father Mali and Grandfather Sumali whom Lord Ram fought. There’s a tribe in Africa who call themselves Kushites because they were ruled by Ram’s son Kush and descended from him. People in Thailand follow Buddhism which also originated in India but there Kings have Ram in there name because they were once ruled by Hindus . Same goes with Indonesia a muslim country. They still practice Ramayan. There’s so much overlapsing of cultures. If you do research you’ll find so many aspect of Hindu cultures around the regions of the world and there culture. Because we ruled almost the whole world at a point of time in history.
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
@Prat667 . you don’t know your history and you believe western propoganda. Let’s awake the nation and our civilisation
@elevatorisland
@elevatorisland 2 года назад
This stuff is super interesting and not many people know about humanity's earlier tribes. I've read up a little on some of them, but if you ever have the chance I'd to love to see more in depth history.
@pong9000
@pong9000 2 года назад
Outdated Americas theory: "People must have walked." Whatifalthist: "(also) People must have sailed." Oh, it's far easier. There is proof of extremely rapid blind migration along the coast, without even sail technology. Alaskan Aleuts prompted by Russian traders to hunt sea otters for fast coin, worked their way down the coast, until finally photographed in their paleolithic whale-skin kayaks off Los Angeles in the mid 1850s.
@tobiasglendenning7966
@tobiasglendenning7966 2 года назад
It seems based on the meta-research Kings and Generals did that Chingas Khaan probably didn't have all those claimed decendents, especially since we don't have his body to test his genetics nor a confirmed direct descendent.
@ollllj
@ollllj 2 года назад
When it comes to phenotypes for (hominids), it makes a much bigger difference if your tribe lived for many generations near an ocean or river or mountain, and it matters much less, if your tribe lived close to the equator in jungle or Savannah or close to a pole in evergreen cold forests for generations. Surprisingly, climate zones are not as relevant for evolution as one may assume, unless you count "mountain" as climate, and not as boundary between 2 climate zones.
@gabrielbap1
@gabrielbap1 2 года назад
Interesting. What are some examples of relations between phenotype and geographic features?
@NoName-rm3db
@NoName-rm3db 2 года назад
Source?
@TeraBitts
@TeraBitts 2 года назад
Remind me
@abiku2923
@abiku2923 2 года назад
@@gabrielbap1 Tibetan changes to lung capacity, and there are some kind of Philippine group that can hold their breath way longer. Idk, just spit balling
@randlebrowne2048
@randlebrowne2048 2 года назад
@@abiku2923 Tribes in the arctic can survive on an almost exclusive diet of meat and fish (not plants to eat most of the time). Most other people would sicken and die on such a diet.
@FrshJurassicPrnceYA
@FrshJurassicPrnceYA Год назад
Interesting video, but you made some mistakes that are worth discussing: 1. The Indus Valley civilization was not founded by Middle Eastern “looking” people, but by local peoples that resembled modern day South Indians. The artwork that they left behind makes that very clear. Also, it’s believed that they were mostly pacifists that rarely, if ever, engaged in warfare. 2. West Africans are not 20% non-human. I don’t know where you got that figure from. Many West Africans do have archaic ancestry, but the figure is closer to 3 to 6%. That’s similar to both Europeans and Asians with their Neanderthal ancestry. 3. The Ainu did not look like European at all (unless you mean the mixed ones). Anthropologists actually classified them as “Australoid” and not “Caucasoid.” They represented what many East and Northeast Asians( like Siberians) once looked like prior to the expansion of modern East Asians. They had dark skin, curly to wavy hair, had broad faces, and the men were very hairy and sported large beards. Of course, there has been a lot of mixing and most modern day Ainu look more “Japanese,” but you can still see the original phenotype on occasion. 4. Kennewick man’s skull morphology was actual more like that of the aforementioned Ainu and Polynesians. An artist reconstructed this specimen, which ended up looking more European. There’s an updated more realistic reconstruction of him that you should check out. 5. The farmers from the Middle East did not wipe out ALL the hunter gatherers in Europe, but mixed with them. This is why many modern Europeans have a large percentage of these hunter gatherers genetics in their DNA. Also, it’s believed that they came from Anatolia (modern day Turkey) and are responsible for the light skin genes that modern Europeans have in abundance. 6. The Afroasiatic language family DID NOT originate in the Middle East, but in Northeast Africa. I’m not sure where you got that from, but majority of the languages found in Afroasiatic are spoken in Africa and no where else. Only the Semitic branch is found outside the continent and even then, there are indigenous Semitic languages found in the Horn of Africa (ex: Tigrinya and Amharic). Much of what you spoke of was spot on and I really appreciate you delving into real history for a change (even though I still enjoy your “what if” videos). I just think more research is required when dealing with such a vast amount of information. ☮️
@paultrasband
@paultrasband 2 года назад
This is a tremendously interesting topic to me. I love how most people assume that the start of history in a region is the start of change for that region
@lif3andthings763
@lif3andthings763 2 года назад
About the Ghost population thing. It seems that it was only found at that 20% in one single group. The sample size was quite small and the percentages were much smaller in other groups with one having close to 0.
@melvinskdkj8536
@melvinskdkj8536 2 года назад
Source on that I will love to see that
@Enteral_abyss
@Enteral_abyss 2 года назад
@@melvinskdkj8536 also keep in mind there is no archaeological evidence to back this at all. This conclusion came from some test done in 2020 on a sample group of west Africans. So to say all west Africans have 20% non human dna is idiotic
@borginburkes1819
@borginburkes1819 Год назад
Thats how it goes. A small sample size of black people suddenly represents all of us. Media and science is against us
@famousaustrianpainter3018
@famousaustrianpainter3018 2 года назад
The thing about Genghis Khan has been mostly disproven
@PantomimeHorse
@PantomimeHorse 2 года назад
An awful lot of ideas in this video being presented as 'facts'.
@suviram.1901
@suviram.1901 2 года назад
@@PantomimeHorse ya.. Most of this is speculation
@samhenson8177
@samhenson8177 2 года назад
I love that you’re thinking about the stoned ape theory. Terrence McKenna is typically dismissed my anthropologists for seemingly no reason other than their person distaste for psychoactive substances. I’ve read Food of the Gods and TM lays out his theory in a very compelling manner. Ever since reading it, I’ve always considered his theory to at least be possible.
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
WhatIfAlthist Recently an acient structure even more *ancient* than Gobeklitepe has been uncovered on Turkey
@ManiacMayhem7256
@ManiacMayhem7256 2 года назад
That's cool. What have they named it?
@thedoruk6324
@thedoruk6324 2 года назад
@@ManiacMayhem7256 Its about 12 000 years old and still unnamed I know its odd
@kellen_mcsmellin
@kellen_mcsmellin 2 года назад
I like the way you think, Whatifalthist. Always challenging my perspective in a way that I almost always end up conceding to. Awesome content!
@flyingeagle3898
@flyingeagle3898 2 года назад
just a warning on some the interpretations here, an ancient genocide of a people group likely did occur in many of these cases, but that is often not the only interpretation that would produce the genetic results we see. For example, an epidemic disease that affects some groups more harshly than others(such as what happened to native americans) would make sense in some of these cases. (The ancient Britons are a particularly strong candidate for this interpretation). Another factor could be the higher population densities among farmers compared to hunter-gatherers. That is to say that even if hunter-gatherers were not wiped out they still might contribute less to our genetics than farmers simply because their lifestyle allows for fewer people to live on the same amount of land. Also in very few of these cases did a population come anywhere close to being entirely wiped out, in nearly all of them some mixing between the new arrivals and the older inhabitants occured Genetics are indeed a powerful window, but interpreting it correctly will remain imprecise without additional contextual evidence.
@terrantabula9847
@terrantabula9847 2 года назад
A genocide may not have occurred in all, or maybe even most, of these cases, but it's the simplest answer.
@flyingeagle3898
@flyingeagle3898 2 года назад
@@terrantabula9847 The problem is in assuming it is the answer, when it may not be the answer in the majority of the cases brought up in this video.
@terrantabula9847
@terrantabula9847 2 года назад
@@flyingeagle3898 Death represents the removal of a person or people as a factor in future events, whereas letting them live would significantly complicate something which we already have very, very little information about with more speculation. Also, I don't know if we could break ourselves of this habit in assuming something like this. The concept arose back during times where such an occurrence would have not been totally out of the ordinary and when we think back to ancient history its always as a 'more violent, savage time' compared to our 'modern, more civilized' own.
@siddxartxa
@siddxartxa 2 года назад
In my head, the Eden story is about memory of the primitive past, that was saved through generations. I don't think psycodelics have some impact on it. Since when you take some, you feel enlightened and stuff, but it wears out and you are back to same old you. The Eden definately tells a story about cognitive revolution. It is truly amazing that something like this could be written 2000+ years ago.
@pong9000
@pong9000 2 года назад
Apparently there was a coexistence in what is now the Persian Gulf between people with modern well-developed frontal lobes, and people who lacked self awareness. The savage and the civilized would recall it differently.
@vincentdavis1926
@vincentdavis1926 3 месяца назад
“The best documented and also one of the earliest incidences of this development is at Wadi Kubbaniya near Aswan, where tubers of wild nut-grass were a major element of the diet around 18,000-17,000 years ago… The unusual preservation of charred tubers thus provides a salutary corrective to the tendency to emphasise ancient use of cereals at the expense of other plant foods.” “This evidently reflects the varied activities carried out by the populations who fished, hunted wild cattle and other large ungulates, and also made considerable use of wild plant foods, including cereals. This last food source is indicated by the presence on Qadan sites of large numbers of grindstones and also by the fact that any of the microliths bear on their edges the characteristic polish known as sickle-sheen which, it has been demonstrated, may have resulted from their use to cut grasses. The Qadan people buried their dead in cemeteries, at one of which, Jebel Sahaba, a substantial proportion of those interred could be shown to have met violent deaths. This is perhaps a further indication of territoriality and inter-group conflict.”
@mitchkroener
@mitchkroener 2 года назад
This is one of my favorite on this channel so far. Very “in the weeds” but this kind of stuff has a way of complicated all our simplistic narratives about history and culture.
@aapkefather1872
@aapkefather1872 2 года назад
Actually, caste system is not based on race or anything like that, its an extremely messy and complicated system that evolved over thousands of years. Its not uncommon to find dark upper castes and almost white European looking lower caste in India. And you can almost never determine a person's caste based upon his/her physical appearance.
@nakshatra1402
@nakshatra1402 2 года назад
It is actually pretty uncommon to find fair lower caste people and darker upper caste ones. But I do agree that you can't determine caste based on looks which in my opinion isn't because caste system was loosely structured (in fact, the opposite) but because there are too many subgroups within castes which makes the big 4 divisions less relevant and blurs their boundaries.
@aapkefather1872
@aapkefather1872 2 года назад
@@nakshatra1402 Please read about caste system from reliable sources. The entire thing is so politicized and propagandized that its almost impossible to find reliable unbiased information about caste sytem.
@aapkefather1872
@aapkefather1872 2 года назад
@@nakshatra1402 The very fact that you cant identify caste from appearance discardes any racial basis. Physical appearance is the only attribute of race.
@aapkefather1872
@aapkefather1872 2 года назад
@@nakshatra1402 The birth based caste system emerged about 1500 years ago and solidified only during the late Mughal - Early Colonial era. Caste system was somewhat fluid and flexible until 1500s. No system can remain the same for 3000 years. The Varna system, was based on one's attributes. The Vedas and Bhagwat Gita clearly state that one's Gunas or attributes determines one's Varna. The Varna system slowly decayed into lineage based Jati or caste as we know it today. Source: Bayly, Susan (2001), Caste, Society and Politics in India from the Eighteenth Century to the Modern Age, Cambridge University Press.
@madjames1134
@madjames1134 2 года назад
Europe was evolving a caste system during Middle Ages, but the Turkic invasions (conquering almost all of southeastern Europe), the Black Death (killed 30% of Europeans, affected disproportionately the upper classes) and then the discovery of Americas (giving poor Europeans hope of a better life overseas and pressuring kings to abolish serfdom to have more settlers) ended the complications and simplified the system.
@REDnBLACKnRED
@REDnBLACKnRED 2 года назад
Basically we're all kinda related
@iggyswag4997
@iggyswag4997 2 года назад
Great video, as usual. Thank you for discussing this topic rationally and making clear that empiric differences between human groups of different heritage do not make humans more or less worthy than another. Since this is a scientific topic I would really have loved to see your sources. Especially on the topic of intelligence variations, because I have come to a different conclusion. (I have a scientific background). Have You read the work of J. Philippe Rushton? Keep up the good work!
@gerrardjones28
@gerrardjones28 2 года назад
Intresting, iv always had an fascination with prehistory
@alexanderi1183
@alexanderi1183 2 года назад
Then watch Survive with Jive. This guy has no idea about pre-history topics.
@gerrardjones28
@gerrardjones28 2 года назад
@@alexanderi1183 Ok
@theodoretex1068
@theodoretex1068 2 года назад
cant wait to see what else we learn in the next 50 or so years. Most of what we know now are rather modern findings, so another 50 years of discovery is going to be HUGE for the field.
@johnl.7754
@johnl.7754 2 года назад
Yeah things are advancing faster and faster probably because less religious control of society, surplus food/materials, more segments of society allowed to advance….Hopefully though the richest tech people today (Elon, Bezos…) around my age hurry up and learn how to advance the human body/brain.
@theodoretex1068
@theodoretex1068 2 года назад
@@johnl.7754 yeah advancement will only get faster if all goes well. but as this video shows, not everything goes how we think it will. either way, learning more about our ancestors will be cool.
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@theodoretex1068
@theodoretex1068 2 года назад
@@sanskar4539 intersting how your records from that time survived when most others didn’t. But I’m sure there were some things missed, as there always is with everyone. I’m excited to see all the gaps filled.
@scoliosis9478
@scoliosis9478 2 года назад
never clicked on a video so fast in my life, this topic and prehistory in general are things I cant get enough of and dont really see a lot of
@kb.e3762
@kb.e3762 2 года назад
1) knowing history by genes is very hard. they need a narrative to back it up but we don't have all the true narrative of history. 2) some rich people, religious organizations, and governments have too much interests in this field that nobody can say for certain what is real and what is a fake narrative.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 Год назад
1 genes don't lie, language and culture mutates much more (at least since homogenic cultures were replaced by hybridisation) 2 data doesn't lie only interpretation can lie you are still ability to learn from many angles and find objective truth as it's one thing and not relativist you just decide if you look for truth or you want to listen to one subjective interpretation if you will think still this way you will learn nothing as everything around wil be seen as lie to you that's in a way nihilistic and all liers will love it
@kb.e3762
@kb.e3762 Год назад
@@szymonbaranowski8184 1) genes don't lie but it can be bought from across the border and provide it as evidence. We can only hope the countries "scientists" are fully independent and truthful. People will do it for whatever reasons they think is important for them i,e. build friendships with other countries, create unity within the country, continue a legend or a myth, or even to legitimize their tradition that they've been following. I personally don't think the dna makeup legitimizes anything but i do care if the person is following the customs, tradition, culture, and social personality more so of the ocuntry. Who doesn't like a little spice when they visit another country. The looks can be anything, even within a group there can be people with different looks, a little bit more melanin or flatter nose wont change how the traditions are followed or the progress or survival of the country if the intention of the person is for the good of the country. 2) data doesn't lie but who are the people in the data sets. Everything needs to be transparent and debated and needs to cover all the people of the region to come to an objective truth, but we still won't truly know the timeline or from which side the people came from or they moved back and forth. We again haven't accounted for genocide or refugees fleeing a region after another group takes over of the land or many other ancient dna has been retrieved. If we only go by the population size or diversity in genetic make up then india would be the father of european people. There needs to be a spoken story or a myth or a legitimate written record to build a narrative on or we can't surmise a conclusion to make history. Even with these we can maybe be 98% sure but not 100% because it can be ancient propaganda, or like gypsies in the uk, origin unknown.
@glitchy6449
@glitchy6449 2 года назад
So basically the people with common surnames have succesful ancestors, so I'm guessing the original Smith was a giga chad
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 2 года назад
Google the most common surname in the world. Who knows how many wives the original had
@user-op4mc1cu3o
@user-op4mc1cu3o 2 года назад
surnames like smith, taylor, miller aren't patrilineal. they're occupational and was assigned or given to them as means to identify them during some time in the middle ages
@user-op4mc1cu3o
@user-op4mc1cu3o 2 года назад
@M G yes but a lot of people were smiths. but it doesnt make them related or family. a lot of people also adopted this surname because of its commonness like the native americans and black slaves
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@error5202
@error5202 2 года назад
@@user-op4mc1cu3o This ^
@MuhammadYusuf-mk5lv
@MuhammadYusuf-mk5lv 2 года назад
This is just an idea, but could you make a video about taxes and the different tax systems throughout history and their pros and cons for the nations they operated in, as well as how they could have influenced the prosperity and decline for said nations would be very valuable and I think could bring a lot of insight on how important taxes are for nations. It would definitely be insightful especially now with talk on global taxes, the huge amount of stimulus spending that countries have done during the pandemic, and the number of countries imposing import and export taxes. A couple questions I have are 1. Is taxing peoples' income which they have worked hard to earn a smart and ethical way of raising taxes? 2. Are there other ways a nation can increase their funds which doesn't include numerous taxes and the monopolizing of whole industries? 3. How have various nations in the past dealt with the issue of taxes and did different types of tax systems exist which had principles on how to tax, who to tax, and what to tax exist? 4. How could taxes have influenced the prosperity and decline of nations? 5. Do taxes restrict the free market? 6. What is an appropriate balance of raising taxes and government spending and the pros and cons of being either a debtor or creditor nation? I appreciate and enjoy all your videos and wish you the best of luck and hope that you continue to succeed in your RU-vid career.
@highadmiraljt5853
@highadmiraljt5853 2 года назад
That is a very interesting topic.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 года назад
Billionaires shouldn't exist and there should be a Wealth Cap for Millionaires
@MeatGoblin88
@MeatGoblin88 2 года назад
@@christiandauz3742 who asked?
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 года назад
@@MeatGoblin88 The people that suffer because of insane wealth concentration Unless the Billionaires finance 10 Million as Space Colonists they to cut down on their wealth
@cek0792
@cek0792 2 года назад
There's this idea of a Land Value Tax by Henry George who wanted it to replace every tax in existence. To put it simply, Henry George thought that land should be treated as the oxygen in the air and shouldn't be owned as it is immoral to him to deprive land off someone as much as it is immoral to depriving air from someone. George thought of a system where people pay for a rental fee based on the value of the land(determined via bidding rent rates) and the size of the land. This makes sure everyone in an economy uses land productively as it would be a financial burden to the tenant if it creates less value than the rent fee on it. This prevents people from buying land and not using it productively or profiting off increases in land value that they did not contribute in. The main drawbacks of the system is the potential of societal divide/inequality since as wealth grows, less financially productive people have to settle on land with cheap rent they could afford which will divide settlements/cities socio-economically by land value. However one of the popular upside is the vision that this tax system will put capitalism into overdrive due to 0 taxes on everything else and people incentiviced to be as efficient as possible with land usage which in addition systematically puts the best individuals/organizations control over the most important plots of land. Might not answer all of your questions but it's food for thought
@rey_nemaattori
@rey_nemaattori 2 года назад
The Cognitive Revolution and the Garden of Eden story, kinda somewhat matches what Peterson states in his many lectures about the garden of Eden, resembling the knowledge of good and evil, awareness of one's own but also other's weaknesses, planning or 'bartering' with the future by sacrificing fruits and seeds now so you'd have a whole tree or field of food in the next years. Not sure if he addresses psychedelics specifically, but I think it would be awesome if you'd manage to contact him about this and exchange ideas over this.
@TeodorEdits
@TeodorEdits 2 года назад
@whatifalthis, do you have a reading list around the topic of this video? I’m curious to explore it further on my own. Thanks!
@mathieug6136
@mathieug6136 2 года назад
As for your theory, there's some nice medieval art about adam and eve and the tree of knowledge of good and evil represented as an aminata muscaria. It's probably the foundation of christianity eucharist ritual and it's probably borrowed from either Greek mystery cults or Mithraism, which were themselves influenced by older cults such as Zoroastrianism/Hinduism, which probably also have deeper roots from the indo-european nomads. There was probably some nice mushrooms in the regions at the time, although I don't know if it would have been aminata or psylocybe.
@sanskar4539
@sanskar4539 2 года назад
The Indo-Aryans story of conquering the whole world is told in Hinduism, i.e. Sanatan Dharma during Treta Yug(Treta Age). Ram(7000years ago)and Krishna(5000 years ago)are our ancestors . So many Indian names have Ram and Krishna in them. But west think it’s all mythology 🤦🏻‍♂️We have a whole Mahabharat(A great war fought in India). We’ve Kshatriyas conquering the whole world i.e ig are Aryans. We’ve a great flood period during which People survived on a boat and sailed through it. We’ve the story of Manu and Mani the first humans. Hinduism and India have so many pre-history stories which West think is mythology how stupid🤦🏻‍♂️(no offence but if you analyse this is our history).
@Newbmann
@Newbmann 2 года назад
I dont even know what to expect from this channel anymore Except I like it.
@robreich6881
@robreich6881 2 года назад
You don’t “buy in” to the race and IQ idea? It’s a fact that there are measurable differences in IQ between racial groups. The question is why that is the case not whether it is.
@il967
@il967 2 года назад
Well, its impossible to isolate the variables. When you control for education, age, gender, mental health, and a myriad of other factors to isolate for something as ambigous as race, then I'd imagine that the disparity would diminish.
@SuperWilliam1998
@SuperWilliam1998 2 года назад
1:59 I'm brazilian. There are some areas of northeast Brazil where black people are more numerous than in other parts of the country, but there's no place, even there, where they are the majority.
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